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(Des Moines Register)   Donald Trump may be gearing up for a new presidential run by giving a speech about threats facing the country and families to religious conservative activists in Iowa   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 85
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2013-06-23 07:24:37 PM  
So religious conservatives are cool with a what thrice divorced philanderer who makes money from gambling.  Is that an example of cognitive dissonance or just base line hypocrisy?
 
2013-06-23 07:26:09 PM  

spongeboob: So religious conservatives are cool with a what thrice divorced philanderer who makes money from gambling.  Is that an example of cognitive dissonance or just base line hypocrisy?


It really doesn't seem that religious conservatives care at all if their leaders adhere to their ideals as long as they are willing to impose them by force through the government on everyone else.
 
2013-06-23 07:27:14 PM  

fusillade762: Speakers will be asked to talk about threats facing the country and families.

You mean threats like infidelity and divorce?


Well, not to mention all that pesky gambling and investment in...well...Sin City.

Don't get me wrong: I sort of admire folks who can work a good con. Despite her obnoxious manners and home spun faux folksy demeanor, I'll give Sarah Palin credit for sticking it to rubes who might otherwise sink their dollars into pyramid schemes or Franklin Mint "collectables"--which are even more degrading and demeaning ways to get conned. Glenn Beck, he defers his cons with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, and he sort of reminds me of a dumber, less charming L. Ron Hubbard. Mind you, not all cons are admirable, like say Hannity's Freedom Concerts which manage to waste about 80-90% of their take on expenses, and using the soldiers' families as their hook, that IS offensive, but Palin just spins mildly racist and ethically challenged rants on "sticktoitivness" in return for cash...well, that, and fantasies by middle aged men that wish their wives looked like her, and as time goes on, I suspect that desire is fading as she is edging deeper and deeper into Grandma land, and that particular schtick had a shelf life, much as Malkin and Coulter are heading towards that retired fantasy pasture in the sky--well, their careers at least. Sarah, I still feel, was really hoping to work her way into a sort of Phyllis Schafely position within the party, but she sort of lacks the academic and intellectual chops for it, so instead, she's looking to cash in as fast as possible, because there are only so many chances for a politician who never completed a term in office without quitting, and who as a talking head, she keeps running afoul of those pesky reporters who keep actually asking her questions. Her schtick has a shelf life, and I think she's realized this, so she's making a run to grab as much cash from the rubes as possible.

And that is kind of where Trump comes in. If you run, you can sell books. You can subsidize your real estate and convention center holdings with all sorts of rental deals, and you can even work out deals so that others stay at your places, while you slide campaign cash into ads, and otherwise fill up a buddy's pocket. It is a version of the shell game that works really well, and Romney did a nice job of greasing palms to get on the ticket, and the problem was, while a LOT of palms got greased, and a lot of rubes got taken, in the end, it was betting on a candidate who had less of chance than Bob Dole, and maybe an eighth of his likability and credibility.

That is really what the GOP races for President have been: rushes to grab as much cash as possible, because folks realize that running is a good investment opportunity, but not so much with the winning. Instead, bank on being outrageous and stupidly populist, so you can secure gigs AFTER the race, and slide as much cash as possible into the right hands, as opposed to worrying about winning. It is a nice, fairly legal way to get the public's cash, and launder it in a way that is entirely above board, and easily watched, and when you DO lose, you can blame the media, or sunspots, or devil worshippers or RINOs or your opponents for daring to expose words you actually said in public. Donald runs, it's not to get office--that's a solid downgrade in pay, and certainly would take up too much of his schtupping around on the current wife time, and way too much scrutiny, but as a dodge to grift, it's not a bad gig...
 
2013-06-23 07:35:29 PM  
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2013-06-23 07:44:26 PM  
Please run. The primaries need to be turned up to twelventy.
 
2013-06-23 07:46:55 PM  

LavenderWolf: Please oh please oh please oh please run for president, Mr. Trump.

I need some good entertainment.


I think The Daily Show could fire 90% of their writers if he decides to run. The jokes just write themselves.
 
2013-06-23 08:09:34 PM  
Came looking for a reference to 'F*ckface von Clownstick', leaving disappointed.
 
2013-06-23 08:19:41 PM  

Smoking GNU: So, he'll be running as a republican, i guess?

What will the thing on his head be running as?


That will be his VP.
 
2013-06-23 08:35:39 PM  
I heard an interesting theory last week. Women, minorities, immigrants, and the young are natural conservative constituents. Obama's victories, fueled only by is oratory skills and not because anyone agreed with his policies, were flukes and are not going to be repeated by any of the potential 2016 Democratic candidates. Because no voters agree with Obama's policies, and no Democrat promising more of the same will win, Republicans are free to run the most conservative candidates possible.
 
2013-06-23 08:41:15 PM  

Pavia_Resistance: Smoking GNU: So, he'll be running as a republican, i guess?

What will the thing on his head be running as?

That will be his VP.


TRUMP/ALOT '16
 
2013-06-23 08:45:47 PM  

fusillade762: LavenderWolf: Please oh please oh please oh please run for president, Mr. Trump.

I need some good entertainment.

I think The Daily Show could fire 90% of their writers if he decides to run. The jokes just write themselves.


I remember at the end of Bush's term, thinking "those poor Daily Show writers, they'll never have it so good again."

Hoo boy.
 
2013-06-23 08:49:31 PM  

Notabunny: I heard an interesting theory last week. Women, minorities, immigrants, and the young are natural conservative constituents. Obama's victories, fueled only by is oratory skills and not because anyone agreed with his policies, were flukes and are not going to be repeated by any of the potential 2016 Democratic candidates. Because no voters agree with Obama's policies, and no Democrat promising more of the same will win, Republicans are free to run the most conservative candidates possible.


This theory is trotted out roughly every election.  That one and the theory that the only reason the GOP lost was because the candidate wasn't conservative enough.  You see, most Americans apparently long to be endlessly scolded by Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann.
 
2013-06-23 08:49:35 PM  
Any one of them could beat Hillary. Think how many people hate her. Think how many people hate her husband. Think how many people hate women. Think how close Romney came to winning the election.

Could, not will. Don't dismiss the GOP as lunatics. That fuels their base.
 
2013-06-23 08:50:16 PM  
There is a difference between having a vision and having a delusion.
 
2013-06-23 09:00:58 PM  

Smoking GNU: So, he'll be running as a republican, i guess?

What will the thing on his head be running as?


Whig Party.

/too easy
 
2013-06-23 09:01:45 PM  

BSABSVR: Notabunny: I heard an interesting theory last week. Women, minorities, immigrants, and the young are natural conservative constituents. Obama's victories, fueled only by is oratory skills and not because anyone agreed with his policies, were flukes and are not going to be repeated by any of the potential 2016 Democratic candidates. Because no voters agree with Obama's policies, and no Democrat promising more of the same will win, Republicans are free to run the most conservative candidates possible.

This theory is trotted out roughly every election.  That one and the theory that the only reason the GOP lost was because the candidate wasn't conservative enough.  You see, most Americans apparently long to be endlessly scolded by Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann.


It also ignores reality. Obama won because more people agreed with his policies. I remember the Republicans conducting an "autopsy" of their 2012 defeat. Part of what they found was that they were detached from reality. Romney felt so assured of his victory and a Republican sweep that even late into the night he hadn't prepared a concession speech. It looks like 2016 will be a repeat. I anticipate the MSM calling it a tie horserace before the candidates are named.
 
2013-06-23 09:03:26 PM  

fusillade762: LavenderWolf: Please oh please oh please oh please run for president, Mr. Trump.

I need some good entertainment.

I think The Daily Show could fire 90% of their writers if he decides to run. The jokes just write themselves.


Stewart would just run the pizza footage every night.
 
2013-06-23 09:13:45 PM  

Notabunny: I heard an interesting theory last week. Women, minorities, immigrants, and the young are natural conservative constituents. Obama's victories, fueled only by is oratory skills and not because anyone agreed with his policies, were flukes and are not going to be repeated by any of the potential 2016 Democratic candidates. Because no voters agree with Obama's policies, and no Democrat promising more of the same will win, Republicans are free to run the most conservative candidates possible.


I trust this is why the Democrats have won all four of those groups for decades.
 
2013-06-23 09:18:40 PM  
Notabunny: .... I remember the Republicans conducting an "autopsy" of their 2012 defeat.  .........

Just today I was reading about how the GOP is torn from within about whether to take any of the advice from that "autopsy."  It included some quotes from GOP Senators talking about how that was all nonsense, and the people that did the report are RINOs.  It also had a hysterical quote from some senior advisor to the GOP.  Something like "we need to find someone that can deliver a message in a manner that doesn't make the voter associate him with the very toxic Republican congressional brand."  I remember "very toxic Republican congressional brand" though, that part was verbatim.  Sure, they just need to change the messaging so that voters don't figure out they're a crazy-ass teabagger idiot, like the crazy-ass teabagger idiots in the HoR.  Those sickening policies and the outright hostility to a very large, and ever-increasing portion of the electorate isn't what's killing them.  That part can stay, they just need a facelift is all.
 
2013-06-23 09:29:56 PM  

Notabunny: Obama won because more people agreed with his policies. I remember the Republicans conducting an "autopsy" of their 2012 defeat. Part of what they found was that they were detached from reality. Romney felt so assured of his victory and a Republican sweep that even late into the night he hadn't prepared a concession speech. It looks like 2016 will be a repeat. I anticipate the MSM calling it a tie horserace before the candidates are named.


They gave up on the post-mortem.  Now it's that Americans didn't know about Benghazi/The IRS/Umbrellagate/the NSA/ACORN.  The media needs to keep the race tight because it's how they make money.  The Democrats could run the most admired human on earth, and the GOP could run the  BTK killer and the media would run stories about how maybe American's need to be led by a rapist-murder for awhile.
 
2013-06-23 09:38:47 PM  

Notabunny: I heard an interesting theory last week. Women, minorities, immigrants, and the young are natural conservative constituents. Obama's victories, fueled only by is oratory skills and not because anyone agreed with his policies, were flukes and are not going to be repeated by any of the potential 2016 Democratic candidates. Because no voters agree with Obama's policies, and no Democrat promising more of the same will win, Republicans are free to run the most conservative candidates possible.


Was this theory from an oddly pale man with a backwards "S" on his chest?
 
2013-06-23 10:32:48 PM  

UNC_Samurai: show me: Others invited - but not yet confirmed to attend - include U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, actor/radio host Stephen Baldwin, former U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida


Asshole, asshole,asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole. Did I leave anybody out?

I'd love to hear about a rather potent and nasty outbreak of mild food poisoning that gives most conference attendees the worst case of the moaty blowouts.  If they're going to spew excrement, let them literally spew excrement.


It would be a thing of glory if a caterer hooked them up with a fast acting laxative.
 
2013-06-23 11:12:53 PM  

Kittypie070: Then he'd best be making a speech concerning toupees.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-23 11:39:04 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: He knows how to make a comeback after bankruptcy.


He knows how to go bankrupt after bankruptcy. And he follows that up with a bankruptcy. And then, just to change things up, he follows that up with a bankruptcy.
 
2013-06-23 11:41:53 PM  

clkeagle: jehovahs witness protection: He knows how to make a comeback after bankruptcy.

He knows how to go bankrupt after bankruptcy. And he follows that up with a bankruptcy. And then, just to change things up, he follows that up with a bankruptcy.


How much of the "Trump Tower" does he own? Just the name plate?
 
2013-06-24 12:10:39 AM  

SVenus: clkeagle: jehovahs witness protection: He knows how to make a comeback after bankruptcy.

He knows how to go bankrupt after bankruptcy. And he follows that up with a bankruptcy. And then, just to change things up, he follows that up with a bankruptcy.

How much of the "Trump Tower" does he own? Just the name plate?


If he seriously runs for President, we'll find out.

/we won't find out.
 
2013-06-24 12:16:07 AM  

WorldCitizen: Well, their platform consists of things like:

1) denying gay people equal rights
2) screwing the poor as much as possible
3) doing whatever needs to be done to make the wealthy wealthier and to ensure they don't have to pay any additional money for much needed investments in our infrastructure
4) denying people who were brought here by their parents as children as undocumented kids from being able to become permanent residents/citizens of the only country they've ever really known
5) forcing their personal religious beliefs onto everyone through using the government (in the name of freedom of religion...their freedom to limit the freedom of others)
6) infringing on women's rights to control their own bodies including in some instances forcing for medically unnecessary purposes a dildo like ultrasound device up their vaginas...

Yeah, it's pretty hard to see anyone supporting such things as being able to be a good person.


Thanks for the list. It is handy to see it all boiled down into a platform.
 
2013-06-24 12:25:04 AM  
Folks, remember when Trump announced last year that he had a "huge bombshell" that was going to totally destroy Obama? He gave a date that he would announce exactly what the "bombshell" was.

When the Promised Day arrived, all he had was a lame blackmail challenge to release college, etc. records in return for a $5 million donation to a charity of Obama's choice.

What happened? Was that really all Trump had? Or did he think that he had something else, something truly big, only to find out after he made said pre-announcement that it simply didn't pan out?

Turns out that, according to its maker, Trump was sent a single frame of a video purporting to be a VHS transfer of a Super-8mm filming of Obama's birth in Kenya. We may never know if Trump actually paid the man the money he asked for, but he apparently thought that it was real and made his pre-announcement before seeing the whole thing.

Well, the whole thing is a laughably incompetent (apparently deliberately so) fake ― not to mention that Super 8 was still three years away from being available at the time of Obama's birth, among numerous other anachronisms (and one heck of a ginormous and both physically and mentally advanced "newborn" baby).

Was the $5-million charity offer his "Hail Mary" play when his real "bombshell" turned out to be a humiliatingly obvious fake?
 
2013-06-24 12:56:06 AM  
All he'll have to do is walk out to the podium, lean forward, and say: "Liberals". Then the entire complex will erupt in cheers and whoops and calls to arms and war against the half of the country preventing them from completely stripping women, gays, and minorities of their rights and freedoms, declaring war on the entire Middle East bar Israel, turning mega-corporations into the most powerful people in the country, and forcing Christian Sharia law into every aspect of life.
 
2013-06-24 12:58:11 AM  

Dr.Zom: show me: Others invited - but not yet confirmed to attend - include U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, actor/radio host Stephen Baldwin, former U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida


Asshole, asshole,asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole. Did I leave anybody out?

This list gives me a happy. Not one of those douchebags could win. And every one of them would probably hurt down-ticket races.


The structure of the GOP these days means that none of those crazies can win the white house, but any of them would help down-ticket races. The crazier the better.
 
2013-06-24 01:04:44 AM  

Oh, and Trump, if you're really going to run for presidency in 2016,

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2013-06-24 01:04:54 AM  

LavenderWolf: Please oh please oh please oh please run for president, Mr. Trump.

I need some good entertainment.


And I want the GOP to steer right into the rocks
 
2013-06-24 02:17:28 AM  
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2013-06-24 07:47:50 AM  

WorldCitizen: PanicMan: show me: Others invited - but not yet confirmed to attend - include U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, actor/radio host Stephen Baldwin, former U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida


Asshole, asshole,asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole, asshole. Did I leave anybody out?

Is there anyone on the Republican side that could possibly run for President that isn't a complete asshole?

Well, their platform consists of things like:

1) denying gay people equal rights
2) screwing the poor as much as possible
3) doing whatever needs to be done to make the wealthy wealthier and to ensure they don't have to pay any additional money for much needed investments in our infrastructure
4) denying people who were brought here by their parents as children as undocumented kids from being able to become permanent residents/citizens of the only country they've ever really known
5) forcing their personal religious beliefs onto everyone through using the government (in the name of freedom of religion...their freedom to limit the freedom of others)
6) infringing on women's rights to control their own bodies including in some instances forcing for medically unnecessary purposes a dildo like ultrasound device up their vaginas...

Yeah, it's pretty hard to see anyone supporting such things as being able to be a good person.


You have to see it from their perspective.
1)  Gays want special rights, not equal rights.
2)  The poor need to take more responsibility for themselves.  Government assistance only assists in keeping them poor.  Take away the hand-outs and they'll become hard-working taxpayers.
3)  That's two points.
4)  So, you admit the child is here illegally?
5)  Basic human morality does not have a religious base.
6)  You're completely ignoring the rights of the unborn child.
 
2013-06-24 09:14:21 AM  

IamTomJoad: Also, a great sadness washed over me realizing that Phil Hartman is gone.

The SNL episodes and the inevitable thin skinned reaction by Trump would have been glorious.


Hartman would have nailed virtually any bloviating modern conservative. But Trump? Sheeeeeiiiit. You think Fey's Palin was good? Hartman would have eviscerated Trump. Like you, I wonder what could have been.

/also sad that Hunter Thompson wasn't around to give his take on the Tea Party
 
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