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(BBC)   Terrorists storm hotel and kill ten tourists in northern Pakistan. In other news, there were ten people on the planet who considered it a good idea to vacation in northern Pakistan   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 101
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2013-06-23 12:23:07 AM
Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?
 
2013-06-23 12:33:48 AM
Chinese in Pakistan? They weren't tourists.
 
2013-06-23 12:45:23 AM
More like a Brandybuck idea
 
2013-06-23 12:55:33 AM

dj_bigbird: Chinese in Pakistan? They weren't tourists.


and Russians too. Also probably not tourists either .
 
2013-06-23 01:01:55 AM

ArkAngel: More like a Brandybuck idea


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-23 01:07:37 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Pakistanis?
 
2013-06-23 01:30:41 AM
What happens in NoPak stays in NoPak.
 
2013-06-23 01:31:04 AM
They were travelers of both time and space, cut them some slack.
 
2013-06-23 01:31:26 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Well off hand, I can think of 10 dead people who would. The world is full of stupid people and I am thinking this should qualify for a Darwin Award. That being said, I think a better questions to ask is "Why would anyone vacation in Pakistan." Seriously, what is there to do there except perhaps watch terrorists storm your hotel and such.
 
2013-06-23 01:32:06 AM

sithon: dj_bigbird: Chinese in Pakistan? They weren't tourists.

and Russians too. Also probably not tourists either .


No they weren't, which someone is going to be really pissed with Pakistan.
 
2013-06-23 01:33:45 AM
Huh. I am surprised that there were no "tourists" from the US there. With a story like that, I just expected it.
 
2013-06-23 01:34:52 AM
The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?
 
2013-06-23 01:36:09 AM
Touring the soccer ball factories?
 
2013-06-23 01:37:29 AM
The other day the State Department tweeted a tourism travel advisory for Gaza and the West Bank due to a complicated security environment. I laughed my ass off.
 
2013-06-23 01:37:57 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Mountain climbers.

/not really a vacation, though
 
2013-06-23 01:38:21 AM
Maybe Kashmir would do better if it were in Indian hands.
 
2013-06-23 01:39:13 AM
"Sure as the dust that floats high in June, when moving through Kashmir."
 
2013-06-23 01:41:05 AM
Apparently Detroit was all booked up this season.
 
2013-06-23 01:42:48 AM

JasonOfOrillia: Maybe Kashmir would do better if it were in Indian hands.


Most of it is.
 
2013-06-23 01:42:50 AM
Wasn't this part of a bad Brad Pitt movie?
Wife shot on a tour bus or something?
 
2013-06-23 01:44:41 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?


My money is on nuclear handoff from the Russians and Chinese to Pakistan but that's just a wild guess.

It's like going on vacation in Detroit or Texas no reason a sane person would do it and you kinda deserve to end up dead over it
 
2013-06-23 01:45:47 AM
Damn, I should have bought that expedia travel insurance! Had wifey fitted for a new burqa and everything.
 
2013-06-23 01:49:11 AM

bionicjoe: Wasn't this part of a bad Brad Pitt movie?
Wife shot on a tour bus or something?


I caught part of that on TV a couple weeks ago. It was set in Morocco, though. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449467/
 
2013-06-23 01:51:30 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Pakistani expatriates? Still, they had the sense to get the hell out of there in the first place, why go back?

Ok I give up.
 
2013-06-23 01:51:47 AM
To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

i40.tinypic.com

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA
 
2013-06-23 02:03:10 AM
I kinda think the world was better when the US, England, and France put their dictators in place in these counties.

They're children...and shouldn't play with grown up things.
 
2013-06-23 02:04:16 AM

TheSwizz: They were travelers of both time and space, cut them some slack.


Heh -
 
2013-06-23 02:11:03 AM
Conservatives ruin it for everybody,

News at 11.
 
2013-06-23 02:11:43 AM

whatshisname: JasonOfOrillia: Maybe Kashmir would do better if it were in Indian hands.

Most of it is.


I was in Ladakh last year, and it was a very harmonious, peaceful place. In terms of other peoples intentions I felt safer up there than in any western city (can't say the same for the way nature up there tries to kill you, but I guess that's part of the adventure).
 
2013-06-23 02:13:19 AM
I just (stupidly) bought a Canon D60. Give me airfare and I'm there.

/At least wait until I know how to use all the features
//First class, I'm 6 and a half feet tall.
 
2013-06-23 02:20:07 AM
I'm surprised that there were no American tourists there, because every time some nation decides to start killing off members of itself, Americans flock to see the sights.

Suddenly, they're interested in the culture, the people, the history, the food and any historic rubble laying around. Then, they wonder why they got shot, had their taxi blown out from under them or tossed in some prison which is just this side of hell.

And then they yell for the US government to get them out.
 
2013-06-23 02:25:08 AM

wildcardjack: I just (stupidly) bought a Canon D60. Give me airfare and I'm there.

/At least wait until I know how to use all the features
//First class, I'm 6 and a half feet tall.


D60 or do you mean the 60D?

I wasn't even aware of the existence of the D60, but I have a 60D and consider it a great piece of gear, which, incidentally, I put to good use in the Jammu & Kashmir region last year!
 
2013-06-23 02:30:04 AM
Animals acting like animals.

News at 11.
 
2013-06-23 02:38:26 AM
Probably not the year to climb K2.
 
2013-06-23 02:40:56 AM
I'm surprised there is a hotel in Northern Pakistan. That implies there enough tourists and travellers moving through there to sustain a hotel.
 
2013-06-23 02:46:44 AM

sithon: dj_bigbird: Chinese in Pakistan? They weren't tourists.

and Russians too. Also probably not tourists either .


There are worse written spy novels that start out with the same action sequence opening.
They just SAID it was "terrorists".  Maybe it was just one man working against the henchmen of a super villain.  But which one?
I figure it's this super villian, aka the head of Nestle'.
Here's where he wants to privatize water:  http://youtu.be/SEFL8ElXHaU?t=2m9s
After all, that area in Pakistan has to be the source of some mighty nice mountain streams...

/I've got to get this to InfoWars, quick!
 
2013-06-23 02:50:35 AM

foo monkey: I'm surprised there is a hotel in Northern Pakistan. That implies there enough tourists and travellers moving through there to sustain a hotel.


It's kinda where the Zombie Outbreak starts, you know.
 
2013-06-23 02:53:08 AM
North Pakistan is Best Pakistan!
 
2013-06-23 02:54:12 AM

infidelic: IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?

Well off hand, I can think of 10 dead people who would. The world is full of stupid people and I am thinking this should qualify for a Darwin Award. That being said, I think a better questions to ask is "Why would anyone vacation in Pakistan." Seriously, what is there to do there except perhaps watch terrorists storm your hotel and such.


Seems as nice and likely place to vacation as say the borderlands of Iraq and Iran or North Korea.
 
2013-06-23 02:56:54 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?


Sometimes a riot just spins out of control and gobbles up people and things that aren't related to what sparked it.

Not everything is a false flag operation you know.
 
2013-06-23 02:58:59 AM

Medic Zero: AverageAmericanGuy: The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?

Sometimes a riot just spins out of control and gobbles up people and things that aren't related to what sparked it.

Not everything is a false flag operation you know.


Yeah, but this month has been pretty vindicating for conspiracy nuts. Might as well assume nefariousness from the outset. It's just as likely as not at this point.
 
2013-06-23 03:02:44 AM
Lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.   Good work encouraging terrorist culture.
 
2013-06-23 03:04:30 AM

Greymalkin: Lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.   Good work encouraging terrorist culture.


Did you see the way those tourists were dressed? They were totally asking for it.
 
2013-06-23 03:04:36 AM
Probably not vacationers... probably corporate scouts for various companies.
 
2013-06-23 03:07:43 AM
Is this where we act like America is a safe place where tourists would NEVER get killed?
/Seriously, just making sure I'm at the right place.
 
2013-06-23 03:08:23 AM

Greymalkin: Lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.   Good work encouraging terrorist culture.


We have to blame someone. We're not allowed to blame the terrorists, because that makes them mad and causes more terrorism.

/and the victims are dead, it's not like they can be executed for the crime
//maybe have their reputation smeared and used as another morbid sock puppet for any attention whoring conspiracy theorist willing to shove a hand up a victim's corpse's ass and pretend to be speaking for them
///but that's just how progressive society works
 
2013-06-23 03:12:16 AM

OscarTamerz: Probably not the year to climb K2.


If you're climbing K2 and it's terrorists you're worried about, it's time to reevaluate your sense of what's dangerous.
 
2013-06-23 03:13:45 AM

Yogimus: Probably not vacationers... probably corporate scouts for various companies.


if so then could this be considered a  corporate vs corporate action
ie reduce competition b4 its in place

(odd thoughts - contractor became the euphemism for mercenary - what is tourist normaly cover)
(if they were actual trekkers - they would have been even better targets while trekking -being hit while at the hotel seems a bit off)
(doing the hit at the hotel implies no worries about colateral damage - yep sounds corporat or military)
 
2013-06-23 03:14:11 AM
TripAdvisor said the restrooms were dirty and the country fried steak was a little tough. They did say the Baba ghanoush is to die for.
4.bp.blogspot.com
They do not recommend the spinach, but they do offer a hamburger that you can have today, but gladly pay for on Tuesday.
 
2013-06-23 03:16:00 AM
Russians and Chinese? Ehhhh, those weren't tourists. Oil or minerals.
 
2013-06-23 03:24:24 AM
At least is wasn't norovirus again.
 
2013-06-23 03:40:44 AM

Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA


Wow, I usually think of Pakistan differently.
 
2013-06-23 03:42:01 AM
Came for Counterstrike ref, leaving with a sad.
 
2013-06-23 03:43:59 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?


The attackers were Sunnis and the victims were all from countries that support the shiate Assad government in Syria (well, I'm not sure about Ukraine).

I don't know why everybody is jumping to the conclusion that the victims were not tourists. The area is close to the Chinese border, fairly far from the cities most associated with violence (Lahore and Peshawar). The mountains and the city of Gilgit are popular with tourists, and up until recently the area has been considered one of the most secure regions in Pakistan. While western tourists are more likely to choose the Alps, for obvious reasons, it's not surprising that Chinese and Russians would choose a relatively safe spot closer to home for travel (or does everybody think that Russians and Chinese are never allowed to travel abroad for pleasure?). Business meetings would more likely be held in Gilgit than in a remote mountain base camp...unless, of course, we were in a James Bond movie and the meeting were being run by Blofeld.
 
2013-06-23 03:45:58 AM
Shi'ite Assad government, not shiat Assad government. I been filter-pawned.
 
2013-06-23 03:55:38 AM
CNN?  Reruns of taped shows.  FOX News?  Reruns of taped shows.  MSNBC?  It's farking MSNBC, who cares?

I keep hearing TV media humans constantly reference the "24-hour News Cycle", sometimes disparagingly.  There hasn't been such a thing on TV for a very long time.

/ Yay Internet!
 
2013-06-23 03:57:34 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Medic Zero: AverageAmericanGuy: The article claims sectarian violence, but the victims are mostly foreigners.

What is being covered up here?

Sometimes a riot just spins out of control and gobbles up people and things that aren't related to what sparked it.

Not everything is a false flag operation you know.

Yeah, but this month has been pretty vindicating for conspiracy nuts. Might as well assume nefariousness from the outset. It's just as likely as not at this point.


No. Not gonna take that route. Far better to assume the usual asshattery of humans than make yourself paranoid for no reason.
 
2013-06-23 03:58:28 AM

Cornelius Dribble: Shi'ite Assad government, not shiat Assad government. I been filter-pawned.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 04:22:22 AM

Cornelius Dribble: Shi'ite Assad government, not shiat Assad government.


I think the filtered version is more accurate.
 
2013-06-23 04:27:28 AM
Terrorists simply shooting people and not cutting off their heads.

Lazy bastards.  This is what happens when you let the ambitious up-n-comers blow themselves up.
 
2013-06-23 04:34:49 AM

TheSwizz: They were travelers of both time and space, cut them some slack.


It took me a while to see what you did there, but lol.
 
2013-06-23 04:57:02 AM

OscarTamerz: Probably not the year to climb K2.


Given the death rate on that mountain, is it ever the year to climb K2?

Though I will say at least on K2 it'll usually be the mountain that gets you, not some poorly prepared owner of a plumbing supply company from Scottsdale who wants to work out a midlife crisis on Everest.
 
2013-06-23 05:06:32 AM
For the record, we did a hell of a job training/equipping and organizing the kill squads that fill the region. Not really a pro or anti political statement. I foresee a lot of these little "A-Teams" get hired out between the chinese and the russians.
 
2013-06-23 05:52:40 AM
Guys, they were there on business.  China in particular is really big on mining Pakistani resources out of the ground.  It is highly unlikely they were on vacation, or foreign agents for that matter.

You'd be amazed at the number of Chinese running around in Africa right now trying to rape the land there as well.
 
2013-06-23 06:14:40 AM

Triumph: OscarTamerz: Probably not the year to climb K2.

If you're climbing K2 and it's terrorists you're worried about, it's time to reevaluate your sense of what's dangerous.


As bad as K2 is there isn't a 100% fatality rate. What probably happened was somebody thought they could get away with calling one of the locals a motherfarker in Urdu just like they did that Sherpa on Everest and it would turn into a snowball throwing incident/brouhaha/kerfluffle until a bunch of Pakis bastards showed up with AK-47s "for when you absolutely, positively have to kill every motherfarker in the building."
 
2013-06-23 06:17:35 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Apparently they were at the 9th largest peak in the world or some such and wanted to climb it.  I know enough climbers to know some of those guys will risk it.

As others have said though I'm not sure what these guys were really doing there, as climbing season is done IRC (monsoon must've started).  So speculate away.

/been to some crazy places, but I'm not that crazy
 
2013-06-23 06:18:10 AM

Alonjar: Guys, they were there on business.  China in particular is really big on mining Pakistani resources out of the ground.  It is highly unlikely they were on vacation, or foreign agents for that matter.

You'd be amazed at the number of Chinese running around in Africa right now trying to rape the land there as well.


I think it's waaaay too early to say why they were there. China is right there, so it seems like a decent vacation choice.
But yeah, the rest of your post is right. That locust swarm isn't going back into Pandora's box.
 
2013-06-23 06:28:42 AM
foo monkey: I'm surprised there is a hotel in Northern Pakistan. That implies there enough tourists and travellers moving through there to sustain a hotel.

congatulations on now being a little less ingorant.

Il more surprised people go on cruise ships.
 
2013-06-23 06:29:51 AM

Greymalkin: Lot of victim blaming going on in this thread.   Good work encouraging terrorist culture.


Don't you mean freedom fighter culture?
 
2013-06-23 06:52:45 AM

infidelic: IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?

Well off hand, I can think of 10 dead people who would. The world is full of stupid people and I am thinking this should qualify for a Darwin Award. That being said, I think a better questions to ask is "Why would anyone vacation in Pakistan." Seriously, what is there to do there except perhaps watch terrorists storm your hotel and such.


You kidding?  You can watch them throw acid into the faces of little girls trying to go to school.  They make a sport of it.  You can always watch them gang rape girls and then beat and stone them to death for being whores for letting themselves get gang raped.  And they have daily parades where they say they will kill anyone that insults how peaceful and perfect Islam is compared to everything else.

It's the perfect place to vacation if you're openly gay.
 
2013-06-23 07:00:15 AM
Aljazeera says some Taliban group claimed responsibility. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/06/20136234309866467.html

The reason given was to avenge US drone strikes. Whoops.
 
2013-06-23 07:15:31 AM
I don't see what you all are asking about. I had a college professor who loved Pakistan and visited every chance he got. Of course, that was pre-9/11, but still...

/He was also a master of some martial art that ended in -jitsu
 
2013-06-23 07:19:19 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: North Pakistan is Best Pakistan!


Rings better than Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir is the best Kashmir for sure..
 
2013-06-23 07:25:28 AM

Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.



If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA


You and the other 375000 people who GIS'd it this morning.
 
2013-06-23 07:35:58 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


This Guy:

img.fark.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve4OE77VPK8&list=PL6CA82C9FB7616B58
 
2013-06-23 08:35:59 AM
We're they wearing Nike shoes?
 
2013-06-23 08:53:43 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


Folks from Best Korea?
 
2013-06-23 09:01:56 AM

IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?


img.fark.net
Pakistan is the sort of country to send your mother in-law to. (obscure reference)
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-23 09:02:04 AM
A spokesman for Tehrik-e-Taliban said the attack was in retaliation for the killing of its second-in-command, Waliur Rehman, who died in a suspected US drone strike in May.

So every time America strikes with a drone, the Taliban will attack countries that aren't especially friendly with America? Maybe Obama knows what he's doing after all.
 
2013-06-23 09:10:32 AM
Religion of peace
 
2013-06-23 09:33:21 AM
Harboring terrorists hurts tourism. Got it.
 
2013-06-23 10:09:27 AM

optikeye: I kinda think the world was better when the US, England, and France put their dictators in place in these counties.

They're children...and shouldn't play with grown up things.


At first I thought you were trolling, but then saw that people actually voted this comment "Smart" a couple of times.

I'm pretty sure outside interference created a lot of the current upheaval in these countries.
 
2013-06-23 10:19:45 AM
I really like that everyone seems to think Pakistan is just a desert. Is it because of the "'stan" in the name? I'm guessing that's it.
 
2013-06-23 11:45:10 AM

A Shambling Mound: I really like that everyone seems to think Pakistan is just a desert. Is it because of the "'stan" in the name? I'm guessing that's it.


The suffix -stan (Persian: ـستان -stān) is Persian for "place of" or "country".
 
2013-06-23 11:53:39 AM
 
2013-06-23 11:56:45 AM

Now I Is!: IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?

This Guy:

[img.fark.net image 303x306]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve4OE77VPK8&list=PL6CA82C9FB7616B58


A homosexual choosing to go Pakistan is a stupid one.
 
2013-06-23 12:15:37 PM

FullMetalPanda: You can watch them throw acid into the faces of little girls trying to go to school. They make a sport of it. You can always watch them gang rape girls and then beat and stone them to death for being whores for letting themselves get gang raped. And they have daily parades where they say they will kill anyone that insults how peaceful and perfect Islam is compared to everything else.



img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 12:49:12 PM

Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA


Yeah, but you could see scenery just as beautiful as that in Canada, the USA, Nepal, Bhutan, India, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, etc.  You know, places where you most likely won't get gunned down for visiting.

/Yes, I realize I'm leaving somebody a HUGE opening by including the USA on my "not getting gunned down" list.
 
2013-06-23 12:53:53 PM

jaytkay: Conservatives ruin it for everybody,

News at 11.


Say what?
 
2013-06-23 12:57:24 PM

OscarTamerz: Probably not the year to climb K2.


They should have thought about that B4.
 
2013-06-23 01:21:04 PM
Taliban logic: US kills our second in command, so we kill some Chinese and Ukrainian tourists.

Yeah, that makes sense.
 
2013-06-23 01:52:20 PM

Somacandra: FullMetalPanda: You can watch them throw acid into the faces of little girls trying to go to school. They make a sport of it. You can always watch them gang rape girls and then beat and stone them to death for being whores for letting themselves get gang raped. And they have daily parades where they say they will kill anyone that insults how peaceful and perfect Islam is compared to everything else.

[img.fark.net image 500x631]


SO Somacandra, someone stating facts that you disagree with is a troll?
 
2013-06-23 02:08:14 PM

Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA


WOW! had no idea
 
2013-06-23 03:50:57 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA

Yeah, but you could see scenery just as beautiful as that in Canada, the USA, Nepal, Bhutan, India, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, etc.  You know, places where you most likely won't get gunned down for visiting.

/Yes, I realize I'm leaving somebody a HUGE opening by including the USA on my "not getting gunned down" list.


Oh, I completely agree. But if you were already dying, why not journey to northern Pakistan? In any case, nowhere is completely safe, least of all rugged, mountainous regions. Or nations in the midst of ongoing conflicts with their neighbors, like India.

And apparently the driving in Argentina leaves something to be desired...
 
2013-06-23 04:30:59 PM

whatshisname: IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?

Mountain climbers.

/not really a vacation, though


but dont the terrorists live in the mountains... >.>
 
2013-06-23 04:43:53 PM

Todd300: Came for Counterstrike ref, leaving with a sad.


The good old days.
 
2013-06-23 06:08:35 PM
so in respond to US drone strikes, the Taliban killed Russian and Chinese tourists. Makes perfect sense.
 
2013-06-23 07:27:12 PM

Nemo's Brother: Now I Is!: IgG4: Seriously who would vacation in Pakistan?

This Guy:

[img.fark.net image 303x306]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve4OE77VPK8&list=PL6CA82C9FB7616B58

A homosexual choosing to go Pakistan is a stupid one.




Umm...

/Don't be a tool
 
2013-06-23 10:36:46 PM

Todd300: Came for


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-24 01:12:08 PM

Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA


liar thats New Zealand.  i know EVERYTHING ABOUT NEW ZELAND just test me
 
2013-06-24 02:01:21 PM

Kettle Corn Mike: Canton: To be fair, it's apparently really beautiful there.

[i40.tinypic.com image 500x336]

If I were already dying of some terminal illness, maybe I'd put it on my bucket list...

/Interesting GIS
//Put me on a list or two
///Hi, NSA

liar thats New Zealand.  i know EVERYTHING ABOUT NEW ZELAND just test me


True or false: Nanga Parbat is a mountain in New Zealand.

Also, if you really want to troll, check your spelling first. 1/10 for the attempt.
 
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