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2013-06-22 09:36:35 PM

Repo Man: Japanese honey bees have evolved a fascinating defense against Asian giant wasps. I


That is intense!

Flying Code Monkey: Bees are cool.


A honey co-op has a table at my local farmer's market. Random bees (not a swarm) fly around the table and walk on the products. I said, "Wow, you bring your own bees!"

"Nope. They find us here. They just like to hang out with the honey."

/ CSB
 
2013-06-22 09:37:07 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, a yellow jacket is a description for a type of bee.
He didn't train bees to attack a yellow jacket.  It seems you meant to say he trained them to attack a yellow jacket NEST.

A yellow jacket is NOT the same as a yellow jacket NEST which is the object that was destroyed.


That would be great, except that he clearly killed all the bees.  At the end of the video, the nest was still in tact, with millions of dead bees around.
 
2013-06-22 09:38:36 PM

forbes01: Acharne: Man. I'm disappointed. I wanted a story of a guy who trained millions of bees to kill the wasps. Instead we got an article confusing wasps and bees that's anti climatic. "He killed them. We can't tell you how nor where."

I was hoping for the same thing and although thats not what happened, there are videos on youtube of people who do kill bees with bees. Ive seen a video where this guy releases like 30 killer bees on a hive of thousands of yellow jackets and the 100 bees completely dominates the hive, just cutting the smaller bees in half. In fact... heres the video....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc">https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc


Those are Asian giant wasps killing honey bees, not bees killing bees. And people had nothing to do with it, other than recording the attack.
 
2013-06-22 09:38:56 PM
oh look a pineapple

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2013-06-22 09:39:34 PM
Good.  Bees rule. Yellow jackets suck. So do hornets and wasps.  F*ck the lot of 'em.
 
2013-06-22 09:41:01 PM

forbes01: Acharne: Man. I'm disappointed. I wanted a story of a guy who trained millions of bees to kill the wasps. Instead we got an article confusing wasps and bees that's anti climatic. "He killed them. We can't tell you how nor where."

I was hoping for the same thing and although thats not what happened, there are videos on youtube of people who do kill bees with bees. Ive seen a video where this guy releases like 30 killer bees on a hive of thousands of yellow jackets and the 100 bees completely dominates the hive, just cutting the smaller bees in half. In fact... heres the video....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc">https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc


No killer bees or yellowjackets to be found in that video. Those are Asian hornets attacking honey bees. Completely different species.
 
2013-06-22 09:41:52 PM

Rhino_man: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, a yellow jacket is a description for a type of bee.
He didn't train bees to attack a yellow jacket.  It seems you meant to say he trained them to attack a yellow jacket NEST.

A yellow jacket is NOT the same as a yellow jacket NEST which is the object that was destroyed.

That would be great, except that he clearly killed all the bees.  At the end of the video, the nest was still in tact, with millions of dead bees around.


I assume you're familiar with his work, and are therefore not surprised.
 
2013-06-22 09:42:16 PM
He should have tried sticking his dick in it.
 
2013-06-22 09:46:12 PM
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2013-06-22 09:46:39 PM
Yellow Jackets are naturally, aggressively attracted to me.

When I was a kid, I was outside playing while my dad was mowing the lawn.  He hit a nest of yellow jackets.  Not a single one stung him, but many, many of them flew to the other side of the yard, where I was, and stung me.  I can be sitting in a bench, minding my own business, and BAM!  One of those bastards will land on me and sting me.  I can be out in the woods, hiking down a trail with 8 other people, no bugs in sight, and BAM! one of those bastards will chase me (and only me).  One time, I was in a friend's sunroom, reached into my pocket for my keys and phone and BAM! a farking Yellow Jacket had climbed down into my pocket and stung me.

So, I got a lot of satisfaction out of seeing a pile of those farkers laying dead on the ground in that video.
 
2013-06-22 09:47:00 PM

Repo Man: Oldiron_79: Repo Man: Japanese honey bees have evolved a fascinating defense against Asian giant wasps. I'm very glad that we do not have these in the US. In another documentary I watched about them, the entomologist said that he was stung by one when he was a boy. He said it felt like a white hot nail being driven into his leg.

Actually I have seen the giant asian hornets in US.



I hope you are mistaken, because they would be a nasty exotic species to have here in the US. But if true, it would be an old story too often repeated.


I wish I was wrong, but notmal hornets aint like 4" long.
 
2013-06-22 09:48:46 PM

buzzcut73: ///Don't fark with the label restrictions, they'll fry your ass


So is that the reason for the federal misuse label on stuff that can't get you high? So you don't spray a tree with lysol?
 
2013-06-22 09:48:59 PM
Came here for Nic Cage, leaving...

... no....


Not the bees!

Not the bees!

Ah, there in my eyes! my eyes! Aaaaaaahhhhh!
 
2013-06-22 09:51:32 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: ramblinwreck: suckerpunch: This is how they handle Yellow Jackets in Georgia:

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Ugh...only if it weren't true.


The nice thing about moving to Georgia, I don't piss anyone off over the local sports rivalries.  I can just sit back, chill, and hope an asteroid hits Clemson.


DamnRight
 
2013-06-22 09:51:54 PM
The desk reporter in the video is looking above the camera. She keeps on glancing up, then down to the camera. Is the teleprompter mirror out of alignment?
 
2013-06-22 09:53:40 PM
I wish I was wrong, but notmal hornets aint like 4" long.

The Tarantula Hawk (Pepsis Wasp) is, they grow up to 4" long and the sting is excruciating


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-22 09:54:49 PM
Is his trade secret gasoline?  I bet it's gasoline.
 
2013-06-22 09:55:00 PM
Actually yellow jackets are also regarded as beneficial predator insects in the gardening world.  I don't kill them, I just grant them the space they are in.
 
2013-06-22 09:55:40 PM
Isn't the giant Asian hornet really known as the green hornet??
 
2013-06-22 09:56:27 PM
Hank Pym unavailable for comment.
 
2013-06-22 09:56:36 PM

SweetDickens: Isn't the giant Asian hornet really known as the green hornet??


They call him The Dragon.
 
2013-06-22 09:57:51 PM

Lsherm: Is his trade secret gasoline?  I bet it's gasoline.


In the video it sounds like his secret is Meth.
 
2013-06-22 09:58:37 PM

SweetDickens: Isn't the giant Asian hornet really known as the green hornet??


Actually... it's apparently known as the yak-killer hornet.
 
2013-06-22 10:00:07 PM
I watched a show on killing bees or hornets and the guy used soapy water. Killed them all.
 
2013-06-22 10:00:32 PM
Eradicating Yellow Jackets and hornets is best done with an upside down Frisbee and 1 part grenadine/1 part Vodak.

They love it and then they fall in and can't get out.

/MWHAHAHA
 
2013-06-22 10:00:46 PM

UsikFark: buzzcut73: ///Don't fark with the label restrictions, they'll fry your ass

So is that the reason for the federal misuse label on stuff that can't get you high? So you don't spray a tree with lysol?


Exactly. That blanket statement on any pesticide label (and disinfectants fall under the 'pesticide' umbrella, same with herbicides) is what they'll use to make your life hell if you do something off-label and stupid, or overapply something and kill a bunch of stuff you don't want to. It has nothing to do with whether you might try using it to get high (notice that statement does not appear on spray paint, canned air, or whipped cream, which can actually get you high)

Like the post I was responding to said, the label really is the law when it comes to pesticides. If you don't follow the directions and use it in a manner inconsistent with the labeling, you're in violation of the law.
 
2013-06-22 10:01:44 PM
Trade secret? I don't think so.

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2013-06-22 10:04:03 PM
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Bees?
 
2013-06-22 10:04:22 PM
Shiat like that makes me glad to live in the high desert, not many bugs.
 
2013-06-22 10:07:55 PM

ThisIsntMe: Eradicating Yellow Jackets and hornets is best done with an upside down Frisbee and 1 part grenadine/1 part Vodak.


Why the hell would you waste good liquor on...oh, vodka?  Well, yeah then.  Carry on.

/I can feel the face-slap from here.
 
2013-06-22 10:07:56 PM

WippitGuud: Came here for Nic Cage, leaving...


Gawd that was possibly the worst movie I have ever seen.
 
2013-06-22 10:09:56 PM

BeerLion: I wish I was wrong, but notmal hornets aint like 4" long.

The Tarantula Hawk (Pepsis Wasp) is, they grow up to 4" long and the sting is excruciating


They are pretty passive thankfully, because an open hand slapping against my bald head only dazed one. I hit myself hard too.

Wasp flew around me a couple times and left.
 
2013-06-22 10:11:44 PM
Z1P2: A yellow jacket is not a type of bee, it is a type of hornet  wasp. Yellow jackets kill bees easily. What this guy did was he likely sprayed the yellow jacket nest with a chemical he's using off-label hence the secrecy since when it comes to pesticides the label is the law.

FIFA. Hornets are wasps, as are the Southern Yellow Jackets.
 
2013-06-22 10:11:53 PM

BeerLion: The Tarantula Hawk


lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-06-22 10:12:53 PM

buzzcut73: UsikFark: buzzcut73: ///Don't fark with the label restrictions, they'll fry your ass

So is that the reason for the federal misuse label on stuff that can't get you high? So you don't spray a tree with lysol?

Exactly. That blanket statement on any pesticide label (and disinfectants fall under the 'pesticide' umbrella, same with herbicides) is what they'll use to make your life hell if you do something off-label and stupid, or overapply something and kill a bunch of stuff you don't want to. It has nothing to do with whether you might try using it to get high (notice that statement does not appear on spray paint, canned air, or whipped cream, which can actually get you high)

Like the post I was responding to said, the label really is the law when it comes to pesticides. If you don't follow the directions and use it in a manner inconsistent with the labeling, you're in violation of the law.


I am now smarter... I figured it was so they could bust your ass for something, but all I could think of was drug manufacturing or whatever. I wonder if this overlaps with the people who were selling a chlorine pool cleaner as a body detox that cured cancer and MS. It's on the internet as "miracle mineral."
 
2013-06-22 10:16:54 PM
FTFA:

TAMPA, Fla. - Insect Jonathan Simpkins is from Tampa.

How Kafkaesque.
 
2013-06-22 10:17:40 PM
Bees are fine. Most wasps I'm cool with. Yellowjackets are basically tiny Nazis as far as I'm concerned.
 
2013-06-22 10:18:01 PM

BeerLion: I wish I was wrong, but notmal hornets aint like 4" long.

The Tarantula Hawk (Pepsis Wasp) is, they grow up to 4" long and the sting is excruciating

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Dude, when you can see the stinger. . .

Jon iz teh kewl: oh look a pineapple

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Or, as my bro says, a very bad day.

snarketyfarker: Actually yellow jackets are also regarded as beneficial predator insects in the gardening world.  I don't kill them, I just grant them the space they are in.


Question from a newbie gardening farker. I happen to have an amazing phobia for flying insects (fricking dragonflies scare me, so it's not the fear of getting stung that bugs me, I think it's actually a problem with the sound). Yes, I know, I put up with the torture because gardening keeps the big bad PTSD boogey monster away (except for being all ZOMG BUG!), so I've stopped asking questions. What's the realistic chance of me getting stung by a bee or wasp? I have both in my garden, no idea on species. I've never in my life gotten stung by a bee, so I don't know if I'm allergic, so the fear isn't totally baseless, but ffs, I'd like to be able to water in relative peace. Any tips on how to avoid getting stung?

/knows the deodorant trick, but has managed to find a scent they aren't interested in
//tried to warn her college anthro class about that once before a trip to the zoo. Only a handful of people listened, everyone else got stung at least three times trying to throw stuff out (the wasps like the trash cans).
 
2013-06-22 10:22:46 PM

Peki: BeerLion: I wish I was wrong, but notmal hornets aint like 4" long.

The Tarantula Hawk (Pepsis Wasp) is, they grow up to 4" long and the sting is excruciating

[img.fark.net image 550x420]

Dude, when you can see the stinger. . .

Jon iz teh kewl: oh look a pineapple

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 194x260]

Or, as my bro says, a very bad day.

snarketyfarker: Actually yellow jackets are also regarded as beneficial predator insects in the gardening world.  I don't kill them, I just grant them the space they are in.

Question from a newbie gardening farker. I happen to have an amazing phobia for flying insects (fricking dragonflies scare me, so it's not the fear of getting stung that bugs me, I think it's actually a problem with the sound). Yes, I know, I put up with the torture because gardening keeps the big bad PTSD boogey monster away (except for being all ZOMG BUG!), so I've stopped asking questions. What's the realistic chance of me getting stung by a bee or wasp? I have both in my garden, no idea on species. I've never in my life gotten stung by a bee, so I don't know if I'm allergic, so the fear isn't totally baseless, but ffs, I'd like to be able to water in relative peace. Any tips on how to avoid getting stung?

/knows the deodorant trick, but has managed to find a scent they aren't interested in
//tried to warn her college anthro class about that once before a trip to the zoo. Only a handful of people listened, everyone else got stung at least three times trying to throw stuff out (the wasps like the trash cans).


Work early in the morning or after dusk in the evening, when they aren't as active.
No sudden moves.
Wear plain off-white clothing.
Wear gloves
Don't disturb nests

If you're just watering, you should be fine.  It's when you start reaching into dense plants and disturbing them as they feed that you run the risk of pissing one off.
 
2013-06-22 10:24:49 PM
When did local TV stations start doing infomercials as part of their newscast?
 
2013-06-22 10:26:07 PM
While I get why you might want to destroy a nest as large as this one is, I don't get why some people are so extremely crazy about killing all bugs. (unless you or a kid/neighbor has a life threatening allergy)

I am always seeing shiat like 'how to make trap for all bugs' or 'how to kill wasps'. I remove wasps nests that are in areas that I have to walk right by (like my fence gate or my front door), but otherwise I let them go. The wasps (not talking about yellow jackets) we have around our home are only aggressive if you get *way* too close to their nest. Otherwise, they do a good job of keeping other insects in check.

The only bugs I kill are tomato worms and grubs I find when I'm digging in my garden.
/stop killing bees people- I need someone to pollinate my melons :(
 
2013-06-22 10:28:47 PM
It's likely that people seeing European hornets (which are up to two inches in length) are mistaking them for the Asian giant hornet.
 
2013-06-22 10:32:07 PM

Frantic Freddie: Shiat like that makes me glad to live in the high desert, not many bugs.


Yeah. About that:
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2013-06-22 10:32:50 PM

spidermilk: While I get why you might want to destroy a nest as large as this one is, I don't get why some people are so extremely crazy about killing all bugs. (unless you or a kid/neighbor has a life threatening allergy)

I am always seeing shiat like 'how to make trap for all bugs' or 'how to kill wasps'. I remove wasps nests that are in areas that I have to walk right by (like my fence gate or my front door), but otherwise I let them go. The wasps (not talking about yellow jackets) we have around our home are only aggressive if you get *way* too close to their nest. Otherwise, they do a good job of keeping other insects in check.

The only bugs I kill are tomato worms and grubs I find when I'm digging in my garden.
/stop killing bees people- I need someone to pollinate my melons :(


Ditto.
 
2013-06-22 10:33:10 PM

FrancoFile: If you're just watering, you should be fine.  It's when you start reaching into dense plants and disturbing them as they feed that you run the risk of pissing one off.


Yeah, I've been surprised a couple of times while training my cucumber vines. One of the flowers had a (thankfully dead) bee in it, and I jumped about three feet back.

Oddly enough, those are things I do anyway, simply because 1) I'm in L.A., so it's too damn hot to water any other time than early in the morning, 2) early morning water is better for evap anyway, and 3) the fricking pumpkins draw blood regularly, so I've gotten in the habit of gloves. Thanks for the off-white (do you mean dark colors like black or bright colors like red or off-white like cream?) and sudden moves suggestion. PTSD makes you freeze anyway, so that's easy.

spidermilk: The only bugs I kill are tomato worms and grubs I find when I'm digging in my garden./stop killing bees people- I need someone to pollinate my melons :(


And ants! The pumpkins need the ants!!!

And yeah, like you, I only kill major stuff. I lost a few bean plants to a mosaic disease aphids brought, but I've seen a lot of ladybugs around, so I don't think that's a problem anymore. I try to get after the baby grasshoppers though, and they startle me about as badly as the flying stuff does.

/would love to make friends with an entomologist to find out all the species she has visiting. Some of the butterflies are just stunning.
 
2013-06-22 10:33:44 PM

ten foiled hats: Rhino_man: tenpoundsofcheese: Subby, a yellow jacket is a description for a type of bee.
He didn't train bees to attack a yellow jacket.  It seems you meant to say he trained them to attack a yellow jacket NEST.

A yellow jacket is NOT the same as a yellow jacket NEST which is the object that was destroyed.

That would be great, except that he clearly killed all the bees.  At the end of the video, the nest was still in tact, with millions of dead bees around.

I assume you're familiar with his work, and are therefore not surprised.


I'm surprised to see him outside of the politics tab, and so obviously wrong about the basic facts that are covered in the article.  This is a new low for him.
 
2013-06-22 10:35:33 PM
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You could say that nest GRU to enormous size
 
2013-06-22 10:37:07 PM

Peki: FrancoFile: If you're just watering, you should be fine.  It's when you start reaching into dense plants and disturbing them as they feed that you run the risk of pissing one off.

Yeah, I've been surprised a couple of times while training my cucumber vines. One of the flowers had a (thankfully dead) bee in it, and I jumped about three feet back.

Oddly enough, those are things I do anyway, simply because 1) I'm in L.A., so it's too damn hot to water any other time than early in the morning, 2) early morning water is better for evap anyway, and 3) the fricking pumpkins draw blood regularly, so I've gotten in the habit of gloves. Thanks for the off-white (do you mean dark colors like black or bright colors like red or off-white like cream?) and sudden moves suggestion. PTSD makes you freeze anyway, so that's easy.

spidermilk: The only bugs I kill are tomato worms and grubs I find when I'm digging in my garden./stop killing bees people- I need someone to pollinate my melons :(

And ants! The pumpkins need the ants!!!

And yeah, like you, I only kill major stuff. I lost a few bean plants to a mosaic disease aphids brought, but I've seen a lot of ladybugs around, so I don't think that's a problem anymore. I try to get after the baby grasshoppers though, and they startle me about as badly as the flying stuff does.

/would love to make friends with an entomologist to find out all the species she has visiting. Some of the butterflies are just stunning.


off-white as in beige.
Definitely do NOT wear bright colors.
 
2013-06-22 10:37:27 PM
 
2013-06-22 10:37:40 PM
Peki:

Question from a newbie gardening farker. I happen to have an amazing phobia for flying insects (fricking dragonflies scare me, so it's not the fear of getting stung that bugs me, I think it's actually a problem with the sound). Yes, I know, I put up with the torture because gardening keeps the big bad PTSD boogey monster away (except for being all ZOMG BUG!), so I've stopped asking questions. What's the realistic chance of me getting stung by a bee or wasp? I have both in my garden, no idea on species. I've never in my life gotten stung by a bee, so I don't know if I'm allergic, so the fear isn't totally baseless, but ffs, I'd like to be able to water in relative peace. Any tips on how to avoid getting stung?

/knows the deodorant trick, but has managed to find a scent they aren't interested in
//tried to warn her college anthro class about that once before a trip to the zoo. Only a handful of people listened, everyone else got stung at least three times trying to throw stuff out (the wasps like the trash cans).


In my experience, unless you step on them or otherwise are smashing them- bees and wasps don't sting unless you are by their nest (and that means 2' away). Sometimes at my house they will have a nest on the other side of the nest and you'll lean right up on the fence (1' away from the nest) and they'll start flying out but if you just run away they won't bother you. As a bit of a backwater, bare-foot type person, I have been stung by wasps and bees (of all kinds) more than I can count. Since you have never been stung (not even by a sweat bee?) I would just take a Benadryl if you are ever stung, and I guess have a phone on hand in case you needed to call 911. That said, I understand your phobia (kinda), but bees and wasps are not aggressive.

Took this guy's photo and he hardly even moved- unless you attack them (or get too close to the nest) they're not going to attack you:
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