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(CNN)   Good News: It's a beautiful weekend for a bbq. Bad News: The Hanford nuclear site is leaking. Enjoy your hotdog   (cnn.com) divider line 62
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2013-06-22 12:12:56 PM  
Subby, the Hanford nuclear site leaking is *exactly* the right reason to enjoy some nice, bbq hotdogs. Some burgers, too, maybe a few chicken patties and shiskabobs. And it would be awfully nice to barbecue a few veggie burgers, too, have something for the planteaters who might come over. I always try to keep a meat-free area on the grill when I'm barbecuing so that the vegetarians can enjoy non-tainted tofu.

And don't get caught up in the whole "charcoal vs. propane" bbq debate. It doesn't matter how you do it...what matters is that pure, awesome deliciousness that is an afternoon bbq. Mmmm, bbq.
 
2013-06-22 12:29:12 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Subby, the Hanford nuclear site leaking is *exactly* the right reason to enjoy some nice, bbq hotdogs. Some burgers, too, maybe a few chicken patties and shiskabobs. And it would be awfully nice to barbecue a few veggie burgers, too, have something for the planteaters who might come over. I always try to keep a meat-free area on the grill when I'm barbecuing so that the vegetarians can enjoy non-tainted tofu.

And don't get caught up in the whole "charcoal vs. propane" bbq debate. It doesn't matter how you do it...what matters is that pure, awesome deliciousness that is an afternoon bbq. Mmmm, bbq.


Sorry to interrupt, but if you have a gas grill, then the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad stuff you cook on it barely qualifies as food.

/threadjack over
 
2013-06-22 12:30:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Subby, the Hanford nuclear site leaking is *exactly* the right reason to enjoy some nice, bbq hotdogs. Some burgers, too, maybe a few chicken patties and shiskabobs. And it would be awfully nice to barbecue a few veggie burgers, too, have something for the planteaters who might come over. I always try to keep a meat-free area on the grill when I'm barbecuing so that the vegetarians can enjoy non-tainted tofu.

And don't get caught up in the whole "charcoal vs. propane" bbq debate. It doesn't matter how you do it...what matters is that pure, awesome deliciousness that is an afternoon bbq. Mmmm, bbq.


You allow "those people" at your cookouts?
 
2013-06-22 12:49:08 PM  
Why wouldn't you just sit it out and let the radiation nuke it until done?

/MMmmm, delicious
 
2013-06-22 01:01:37 PM  
Of course we are going out today to BBQ... it's finally sunny in Seattle!  Tomorrow it will rain again.  Radiation or not, a sunny day in Seattle is something to celebrate!
 
2013-06-22 01:03:36 PM  
I like my hot dogs to be slightly irradiated.  makes my insides all zappy and sparkly!
 
2013-06-22 01:25:14 PM  
On a positive note, the radiation kills the e. coli in the burgers
 
2013-06-22 01:31:55 PM  
Meh...If you're going to cook hot dogs electrocution is the only way...
www.duntemann.com
 
2013-06-22 01:34:29 PM  
Nuclear BBQ, not bad for a band name.
 
2013-06-22 01:42:10 PM  
Oh, is that a problem?  How about we send all that waste to some desert hole in the ground instead?

Ahhhh, that's right.  The anti-nuclear power people thought it would be better to store it on-site near housing developments. How wise of them!  This proves them right!
 
2013-06-22 02:01:45 PM  

Oh yeah, I forgot:


BBQ is not Grilling!


/You can proceed with the thread now.
 
2013-06-22 02:34:02 PM  
So what you're saying is that a hotdog can give me unholy superpowers? Win-win.
 
2013-06-22 03:20:11 PM  

Ricardo Klement: Oh, is that a problem?  How about we send all that waste to some desert hole in the ground instead?

Ahhhh, that's right.  The anti-nuclear power people thought it would be better to store it on-site near housing developments. How wise of them!  This proves them right!


Well someone thought putting houses near the plant was a good idea. If the only house you can afford is right beside the nuclear plant, maybe you should just rent another year or two...
 
2013-06-22 04:06:53 PM  

sno man: Ricardo Klement: Oh, is that a problem?  How about we send all that waste to some desert hole in the ground instead?

Ahhhh, that's right.  The anti-nuclear power people thought it would be better to store it on-site near housing developments. How wise of them!  This proves them right!

Well someone thought putting houses near the plant was a good idea. If the only house you can afford is right beside the nuclear plant, maybe you should just rent another year or two...


That's not much of a threat out in the middle of the desert.
 
2013-06-22 04:48:40 PM  
A little radioactivity is no big deal. Why, you get that much radioactivity from a bunch of bananas.

img.fark.net

There, there. That's not scary, is it?
 
2013-06-22 04:49:27 PM  
No, no
It was just a minor glitch
The leak was repaired without a hitch
There were good reasons why we didn't call
There was no danger for people at all
There is no danger for you at all!
Yes, sure
Everything works now
Everything is fine
Don't you worry
Go to bed
It's very safe in our hands
Don't be mean, our work is clean
No radiation, no side effects
We guarantee in word and deed
Trust in us, we will take care
An incident is very rare
 
2013-06-22 04:51:55 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: No, no
It was just a minor glitch
The leak was repaired without a hitch
There were good reasons why we didn't call
There was no danger for people at all
There is no danger for you at all!
Yes, sure
Everything works now
Everything is fine
Don't you worry
Go to bed
It's very safe in our hands
Don't be mean, our work is clean
No radiation, no side effects
We guarantee in word and deed
Trust in us, we will take care
An incident is very rare


Incidents are indeed very rare, making them safer than oil, gas, or coal power plants.

Probably hydroelectric too, with dams bursting and all.
 
2013-06-22 04:53:07 PM  

Notabunny: Pocket Ninja: Subby, the Hanford nuclear site leaking is *exactly* the right reason to enjoy some nice, bbq hotdogs. Some burgers, too, maybe a few chicken patties and shiskabobs. And it would be awfully nice to barbecue a few veggie burgers, too, have something for the planteaters who might come over. I always try to keep a meat-free area on the grill when I'm barbecuing so that the vegetarians can enjoy non-tainted tofu.

And don't get caught up in the whole "charcoal vs. propane" bbq debate. It doesn't matter how you do it...what matters is that pure, awesome deliciousness that is an afternoon bbq. Mmmm, bbq.

Sorry to interrupt, but if you have a gas grill, then the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad stuff you cook on it barely qualifies as food.

/threadjack over


1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-06-22 04:54:19 PM  
we can send this leak to China, too, right? right?
 
2013-06-22 04:55:15 PM  
Yup it's leaking.  Yup the new energy secretary wants more oversight of the contractors working out there.  Yup, work at the Lazy H continues slowly....very slowly.
 
2013-06-22 04:56:15 PM  

basemetal: Oh yeah, I forgot:


BBQ is not Grilling!

/You can proceed with the thread now.


It's also not BBQ.
 
2013-06-22 04:58:15 PM  
The primary containment vessel cracked. The secondary containment vessel is holding the leak. fark the contractor for letting it go as far as it did. The good news is that they're projecting something like 19 months to get the full plan for pumping it out in place and to do it.
 
2013-06-22 05:00:29 PM  

Tellingthem: Meh...If you're going to cook hot dogs electrocution is the only way...
[www.duntemann.com image 400x237]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScwbimMBklA
 
2013-06-22 05:01:14 PM  

Theeng: Incidents are indeed very rare, making them safer than oil, gas, or coal power plants.


And Hanford was a Manhattan-project weapons production site. It is not representative of the commercial power-generation industry.
 
2013-06-22 05:03:06 PM  

Theeng: Incidents are indeed very rare, making them safer than oil, gas, or coal power plants.


You can't really compare them in terms of safety. A coal power plant has an accident and has to be rebuilt or repaired. A nuclear power plant has an accident and an area becomes deadly to all life for hundreds of thousands of years.

It's a bit like saying because cometary impacts don't happen very often they're safer than handguns or something.
 
2013-06-22 05:08:27 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: A nuclear power plant has an accident and an area becomes deadly to all life for hundreds of thousands of years.


Yeah, not so much anymore. The state of the art has advanced a lot.
 
2013-06-22 05:10:00 PM  

Fjornir: Yeah, not so much anymore. The state of the art has advanced a lot.


Cool, so all those radioactive isotopes still being pumped into the ocean and air by Fukushima are probably being rounded up as we speak.
 
2013-06-22 05:11:42 PM  
It isn't funny. There could be very serious health problems coming out of this. Hot dogs are nothing to joke about.
 
2013-06-22 05:13:16 PM  
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2013-06-22 05:14:09 PM  
J. Frank Parnell:Cool, so all those radioactive isotopes still being pumped into the ocean and air by Fukushima are probably being rounded up as we speak.

Fukushima is one of those old plants that should have been decommissioned a long time ago and does not reflect the current state of the art in any way.
 
2013-06-22 05:30:12 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Nuclear BBQ, not bad for a band name.


Japan gets Godzilla because of a leak and we get a band...that's not fair.
 
2013-06-22 05:43:48 PM  

Fjornir: J. Frank Parnell:Cool, so all those radioactive isotopes still being pumped into the ocean and air by Fukushima are probably being rounded up as we speak.

Fukushima is one of those old plants that should have been decommissioned a long time ago and does not reflect the current state of the art in any way.


I agree totally, the older designs we're stuck with only get worse and worse with wear and age, not making newer, safer facilities to replace them is just irresponsible. You don't get a pacemaker, say "Well, sticking a newer replacement in would require ANOTHER surgery, and HEY! I'm not passing out or anything for now!" and just leave it at that, you farking keep up on stuff and make sure that 20 to 30 years down the road you have what you need to keep your ass around and in prime shape.

I'll even go "Thorium! Hurr derp!" a bit and say that we SHOULD re-investigate molten salt reactors, throw a few dozen of our best and brightest at the problem in a new Manhattan Project style endeavor. And not just pure nuclear scientists, but those from other disciplines as well including materials scientists. No sense developing all these new alloys and materials if we can't use them in the most critical places necessary to increase safety and efficiency, and maybe even reduce costs.
 
2013-06-22 05:44:58 PM  
"The elevated reading, however, doesn't pose an immediate public health threat, Inslee said."

Yeah, but in a couple weeks you are all farked. Muahahahahaa.... Now go back to your brainwashed, media driven lives like a good citizen.
 
2013-06-22 05:59:17 PM  
I'll just leave thi$ here:

Hanford Cleanup Era
 
2013-06-22 06:10:54 PM  
Pffft,.. the Russians know how to do it right:

Lake Karachay
 
2013-06-22 06:11:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: And don't get caught up in the whole "charcoal vs. propane" bbq debate.


You don't get it. You don't need to light up a fire under the grill this weekend, you just watch the stuff roast itself. And the best thing? YOUR HOT DOG FARKING GLOWS!
 
2013-06-22 06:13:45 PM  
Remember folks, wind and solar power generation is much too expensive to ever be a feasible option.

/realize its not a nuke plant
//waste disposal is still troublesome
 
2013-06-22 06:25:03 PM  
The picture from the article looks like it's from the part of Hanford called the 300 Area.
img.fark.net
/hot linked
There used to be tons of different buildings there but most of them are gone now.  The 300 Area would take uranium and turn it into aluminum covered bars about the size of a roll of US quarters.  Here's a picture I took of it when I rode my folding bike out there.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-22 06:25:08 PM  
I've lived in WA state for over 20 years now.  Those tanks were in the ground leaking when I came here, they've had 11,000 guys working since 1988, and it appears that the latest revision of their plan to empty them by 2018 is to have it done by 2040.  They have to empty the tanks before they can start to clean up the 1 million gallons of highly contaminated groundwater that will reach the river somewhere between 7 to 33 years.

For your amusement and entertainment, compare the current version of WA State's Hanford cleanup info pages:

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/nwp/project.htm

with the version from 2008 that can be found thanks to the Wayback Machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080624232748/http://www.ecy.wa.gov/feat ur es/hanford/hanfordfacts.html
 
2013-06-22 06:32:19 PM  

GGracie: Of course we are going out today to BBQ... it's finally sunny in Seattle!  Tomorrow it will rain again.  Radiation or not, a sunny day in Seattle is something to celebrate!


On any other day in Seattle, the leaking radiation from the plant would be no different from solar radiation in any normal part of the world where the sun shines.
 
2013-06-22 06:39:39 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Theeng: Incidents are indeed very rare, making them safer than oil, gas, or coal power plants.

You can't really compare them in terms of safety. A coal power plant has an accident and has to be rebuilt or repaired. A nuclear power plant has an accident and an area becomes deadly to all life for hundreds of thousands of years.

It's a bit like saying because cometary impacts don't happen very often they're safer than handguns or something.


As an actual nuclear power plant worker, specifically a radiation protection tech: what are you prattling on about?

Because reality is just the opposite of what you're saying. Coal plants dump mercury into water and push background radiation up higher than nuclear plants do. Coal and gas are more dangerous work environments (as told to me by man former coal, gas, and chemical workers who bailed out to nuclear because it's safer to work there). And, might I add: coal and gas plants explode.

img.fark.net

The 167 dead on Piper Alpha alone are not swayed by your argument.

Let me put it to you this way. I was at Arkansas Nuclear One this spring and a crane broke. This happened.

img.fark.net

Non nuclear accident. Nothing radiological. But someone died, and that is so farking weird in nuclear power that the entire industry howled in pain. Basically every plant in the US called ANO wanting explanations. The entire site, and town, was in shock.

Now, major accidents. Chernobyl can't happen in the United States, and Pripyat is open for guided tourism, so there goes that argument. The other TMI unit has a perfect run record, so, don't even try. We're far too early into Japan to know, but frankly, it's Japan. They got bombed and live in those cities, they'll work it out.

/by the way Ramsar, Iran has a natural background of 20 rem per year
//that's four times the Federal dose limit in America
///Hanford is DOE and let me tell you, DOE is a different world than commercial nuclear
 
2013-06-22 06:51:11 PM  
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2013-06-22 06:59:03 PM  

Ringshadow: J. Frank Parnell: Theeng: Incidents are indeed very rare, making them safer than oil, gas, or coal power plants.

You can't really compare them in terms of safety. A coal power plant has an accident and has to be rebuilt or repaired. A nuclear power plant has an accident and an area becomes deadly to all life for hundreds of thousands of years.

It's a bit like saying because cometary impacts don't happen very often they're safer than handguns or something.

As an actual nuclear power plant worker, specifically a radiation protection tech: what are you prattling on about?

Because reality is just the opposite of what you're saying. Coal plants dump mercury into water and push background radiation up higher than nuclear plants do. Coal and gas are more dangerous work environments (as told to me by man former coal, gas, and chemical workers who bailed out to nuclear because it's safer to work there). And, might I add: coal and gas plants explode.

[img.fark.net image 500x350]

The 167 dead on Piper Alpha alone are not swayed by your argument.

Let me put it to you this way. I was at Arkansas Nuclear One this spring and a crane broke. This happened.

[img.fark.net image 500x620]

Non nuclear accident. Nothing radiological. But someone died, and that is so farking weird in nuclear power that the entire industry howled in pain. Basically every plant in the US called ANO wanting explanations. The entire site, and town, was in shock.

Now, major accidents. Chernobyl can't happen in the United States, and Pripyat is open for guided tourism, so there goes that argument. The other TMI unit has a perfect run record, so, don't even try. We're far too early into Japan to know, but frankly, it's Japan. They got bombed and live in those cities, they'll work it out.

/by the way Ramsar, Iran has a natural background of 20 rem per year
//that's four times the Federal dose limit in America
///Hanford is DOE and let me tell you, DOE is a different world than commercial nuclear


Will you stop with your practical information based on real-world knowledge and years of insight? This is Fark! We demand paranoia and wild speculation!
 
2013-06-22 07:00:54 PM  
Seems like a great time for me to have returned home to Eastern Washington and potentially start work in the Tri-Cities.
 
2013-06-22 07:01:01 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-22 07:01:33 PM  
TMI; We have a little water on the floor
Me: So no big deal - call the janitor and done
TMI: it's more than that.
Me: So spring for a squeegee and a shop vac - duh
TMI: It's 750,000 gallons
Me:.  .  .  so what the fark is a LOT of water?  Lake Superior?

The point is, differing industries work in differing scales, languages and attitudes.

Trust no one
 
2013-06-22 07:07:31 PM  
The environmental damage done by coal, steel production and fracking worry me far more than nuclear energy. the 2400 nuclear bombs tested around the world worry me more than the CANDU NPP here in North America. The ones in Russia and South America, different story.
 
2013-06-22 07:23:18 PM  

Astorix: The environmental damage done by coal, steel production and fracking worry me far more than nuclear energy. the 2400 nuclear bombs tested around the world worry me more than the CANDU NPP here in North America. The ones in Russia and South America, different story.


www.atarimagazines.com

eoo eoo kchaaa!!
 
2013-06-22 07:25:58 PM  

Not_The_Target_Market: [img.fark.net image 480x360]


Isn't the penis redundant?
 
2013-06-22 07:31:44 PM  
sometimes i think the reason we have 2 washintons in america is so the dumbass terrirsts don't know which one to hit
 
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