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(Variety)   The radio business is dying, because unlike years ago when a song or artist got airplay, it went nuclear; now, radio stations just play to their niche, clogging us with Taylor Swift, Nickelback, Pink, Mumford & Sons, and other Top 40 disasters   (variety.com) divider line 139
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2013-06-22 12:40:35 PM  
Terrestrial Radio isn't dying. Its transforming. HD radio is larger markets is making multicasting a reality and a way to attract new market share. Public radio is also adopting HD so it can multicast variety music and info. Plus, TuneIn and IHeartRadio are pretty effective--Clear Channel (and Cumulus) will transform and adopt. I myself prefer old soul and r&b, and that's not too hard to find in larger markets--those stations internet stream as well. People like free, and 'pay to borrow' music is not going to replace that any more than cable tv killed broadcast stations. Clear Channel may be assholes, but they know how to exploit and take advantage of new free technology to leverage their position.
 
2013-06-22 12:51:55 PM  
There's a local classic rock station I listen to on a regular basis in the vehicle AND at home. They play a lot of the music I have in my CD/LP collection, so I don't  have to play them very often.
 
2013-06-22 12:53:36 PM  
I have sirius and the internet, (not to mention downloaded music), I haven't listened to terrestrial radio in years.
 
2013-06-22 12:59:04 PM  
Niches are good. There are so many options out there now for finding your music, everyone can find something they like.
 
2013-06-22 01:10:10 PM  
I prefer not to listen to 25 minutes of commercials each hour, so I pretty much listen only to public radio over the air.
 
2013-06-22 01:14:21 PM  

bronyaur1: I prefer not to listen to 25 minutes of commercials each hour, so I pretty much listen only to public radio over the air.


My wife changed my radio away from NPR once. I allowed it - for about ten minutes of beer, tampon, impotence meds, oncologists, and some screaming guy selling something. I asked her not to do that again.

(having a fairly loud car with no sound insulation makes radio a little pointless anyway, except when idling in traffic)
 
2013-06-22 01:17:57 PM  
I listen to NPR on the way to and from work. Otherwise I go for Spotify.
 
2013-06-22 01:25:03 PM  
If I listen to radio, it's in the car, and it's public radio. For music, I've got an iPod or my phone. The only time I hear radio otherwise, is at work, and more often, we just plug in someone's phone to stream music or use someone's phone or iPod. There isn't really a reason to use radio, unless it's public radio at this point, and the irony of that makes me sort of smile.
 
2013-06-22 01:49:33 PM  
I never listen to the radio because I cannot stand DJs and their inane "banter". Worse, the licencing authority here for commercial radio stations, ie non BBC ones, actually demands a certain amount of talk time. IIRC it is twenty minutes per hour. A channel is simply not allowed to play non stop music. It must have a stupid DJ, stupid phone in's, stupid quizzes, stupid traffic reporters trying desperately to put an over the top personality into their thirty second traffic report so they'll be noticed and get promoted or poached for a bigger job etc.
Even for the traffic reports I won't listen to local radio. I'd rather be late for work.

/Radio 4 panel shows, like The Unbelievable Truth and So Wrong It's Right etc, are great. And no adverts.
 
2013-06-22 01:51:27 PM  
That's why there's podcasts.  Plenty of fresh content that I choose that fits my tastes.
Except for live sports. And that is changing too.
 
2013-06-22 02:31:27 PM  
Newsflash: Changes in technology change media usage.
 
2013-06-22 02:38:53 PM  

basemetal: I have sirius and the internet, (not to mention downloaded music), I haven't listened to terrestrial radio in years.


Yeah, I don't want to be that guy but who listens to radio anymore? Especially those zany morning zoo nut hut douchebags? I haven't listened to morning radio since Ron and Ron broke up,
 
2013-06-22 02:39:29 PM  
the best part of this is watching the AM radio dial slowly die an ignominious death along side the FM stations.
 
2013-06-22 02:40:53 PM  
You think with all the talking the dj's do they could at least mention the name and band of the songs that play.  But, nope.  Not gonna do it.  They will, however, mention how much music they play.  over and over and over again.
 
2013-06-22 02:45:49 PM  
They used to have a 24/7 standup comedy station here in Austin.
Then all of a sudden it was Latin Top 40 or some shiat
 
2013-06-22 02:49:31 PM  

Klippoklondike: You think with all the talking the dj's do they could at least mention the name and band of the songs that play.  But, nope.  Not gonna do it.  They will, however, mention how much music they play.  over and over and over again.


I don't know much about that biz but aren't the songs chosen and played by computer? So maybe the "DJs" don't even know what's playing next.

I think these days are over

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2013-06-22 02:59:22 PM  
BOOOOOOGER!!!!!
 
2013-06-22 03:32:36 PM  
At home, the only time the radio is on is for baseball games.  In the car, if the radio is on, it's on Bloomberg Radio, since I find the topics interesting and it keeps my brain active.  For music I have Pandora at home, and my iPod when I'm in the car.

Terrestrial music radio stations just don't serve a purpose for me.  The vast majority of what I listen to is either older stuff (90s hard rock/alternative, 70s funk and disco, King Crimson, classic electronica), or mood music (meditation music, dark ambient, etc).  I either have the mp3s, or I can listen to Pandora without commercials (I pay for Pandora One).  If any new music catches my ear, I either listen on YouTube or buy the mp3.
 
2013-06-22 03:59:08 PM  

MisterTweak: bronyaur1: I prefer not to listen to 25 minutes of commercials each hour, so I pretty much listen only to public radio over the air.

My wife changed my radio away from NPR once. I allowed it - for about ten minutes of beer, tampon, impotence meds, oncologists, and some screaming guy selling something. I asked her not to do that again.

(having a fairly loud car with no sound insulation makes radio a little pointless anyway, except when idling in traffic)


So, to summarize: You're an NPR listener married to a gal who listens to AM talk? Dayymm, guy.
 
2013-06-22 04:05:15 PM  
Video, video killed the radio and its star.
 
2013-06-22 04:07:33 PM  
Not my 89.3 The Current.
 
2013-06-22 04:12:36 PM  
I'm lucky I get WXPN in my area.  Not allowed to use the internet on our work computers, so I do listen to the radio about 40 hours a week.

http://xpn.org/playlists/xpn-playlist
 
2013-06-22 04:17:05 PM  
Eh, I listen to a fair amount of terrestrial radio. Our boss won't buy any of the satellite services, and he always buys the basic model that doesn't come with things like power doors or windows or cd players or even tape decks so we're usually stuck with a plain old radio when we're driving halfway across the state on service calls. All of us hate the stations that still carry morning shows, there's not a damned one that doesn't suck, we'd all rather just listen to music. But now instead of playing a variety of artists within whatever genre that station specializes in (top 40, rock, classic rock, etc) we keep hearing the same goddamn artists every farking day, multiple times a day. As an example one day we may hear whatever "new" single a few bands have out 4 times a day for about a month or so along filler consisting of at least one song each by Nirvana, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Five Finger Death Punch, etc. The next day we'll hear the same "new" singles with different filler songs by the exact same bands listed earlier. Not that I have anything against those bands, but when you're on the road pretty regularly you can only take so much of the same bands every day.
There's more than enough rock bands out there to vary it up a little from day to day dammit.

/yeah yeah, csb
 
2013-06-22 04:19:14 PM  
I drive a town-owned vehicle for my job, so I have to deal with whatever the base-model radio will get. Fortunately, WRKI out of Danbury, CT is pretty good with their classic rock mix, and the DJs are decent enough for the most part. One of their morning guys is starting to act like he's on one of those obnoxious 'morning zoo' shows, though.
 
2013-06-22 04:21:40 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I listen to a fair amount of terrestrial radio. Our boss won't buy any of the satellite services, and he always buys the basic model that doesn't come with things like power doors or windows or cd players or even tape decks so we're usually stuck with a plain old radio when we're driving halfway across the state on service calls. All of us hate the stations that still carry morning shows, there's not a damned one that doesn't suck, we'd all rather just listen to music. But now instead of playing a variety of artists within whatever genre that station specializes in (top 40, rock, classic rock, etc) we keep hearing the same goddamn artists every farking day, multiple times a day. As an example one day we may hear whatever "new" single a few bands have out 4 times a day for about a month or so along filler consisting of at least one song each by Nirvana, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Five Finger Death Punch, etc. The next day we'll hear the same "new" singles with different filler songs by the exact same bands listed earlier. Not that I have anything against those bands, but when you're on the road pretty regularly you can only take so much of the same bands every day.
There's more than enough rock bands out there to vary it up a little from day to day dammit.

/yeah yeah, csb


Dayam man, you can't even bring like an mp3 player and some portable speakers?  That's cruel and unusual boss-like behavior if I ever saw it.  No one should be stuck in that situation.
 
2013-06-22 04:29:37 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I listen to a fair amount of terrestrial radio. Our boss won't buy any of the satellite services, and he always buys the basic model that doesn't come with things like power doors or windows or cd players or even tape decks so we're usually stuck with a plain old radio when we're driving halfway across the state on service calls. All of us hate the stations that still carry morning shows, there's not a damned one that doesn't suck, we'd all rather just listen to music. But now instead of playing a variety of artists within whatever genre that station specializes in (top 40, rock, classic rock, etc) we keep hearing the same goddamn artists every farking day, multiple times a day. As an example one day we may hear whatever "new" single a few bands have out 4 times a day for about a month or so along filler consisting of at least one song each by Nirvana, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Five Finger Death Punch, etc. The next day we'll hear the same "new" singles with different filler songs by the exact same bands listed earlier. Not that I have anything against those bands, but when you're on the road pretty regularly you can only take so much of the same bands every day.
There's more than enough rock bands out there to vary it up a little from day to day dammit.

/yeah yeah, csb

Dayam man, you can't even bring like an mp3 player and some portable speakers?  That's cruel and unusual boss-like behavior if I ever saw it.  No one should be stuck in that situation.


We probably could, but none of us are really willing to spend the amount of money necessary on portable speakers (and the batteries required for amplified portable speakers) that would get loud enough to overcome the combination of engine noise, tire noise, and wind howling through the ladder rungs noise that our vans generate. I mean I could see doing that for a personally owned vehicle that gets loud, but no one wants to do that just for a work vehicle, much less move the crap from vehicle to vehicle since we don't always get told to use the same vehicle from day to day.
 
2013-06-22 04:29:59 PM  

Pontious Pilates: Niches are good. There are so many options out there now for finding your music, everyone can find something they like.


Which would be nice if my coworkers would stop turning every radio to the local Morning Zoo.
/dispatcher knows to have me either rolling solo or with the small handful of guys that like to either drive in silence or listen to some kind of MUSIC, not three wankers tossing stupid jokes while their sound effect guy punctuates each one with Warner Brothers grade sound effects
 
2013-06-22 04:33:47 PM  
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My lawn, get off it.

/the DJ's were know to hit the bong on air.  Good times man.
 
2013-06-22 04:33:50 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: BumpInTheNight: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I listen to a fair amount of terrestrial radio. Our boss won't buy any of the satellite services, and he always buys the basic model that doesn't come with things like power doors or windows or cd players or even tape decks so we're usually stuck with a plain old radio when we're driving halfway across the state on service calls. All of us hate the stations that still carry morning shows, there's not a damned one that doesn't suck, we'd all rather just listen to music. But now instead of playing a variety of artists within whatever genre that station specializes in (top 40, rock, classic rock, etc) we keep hearing the same goddamn artists every farking day, multiple times a day. As an example one day we may hear whatever "new" single a few bands have out 4 times a day for about a month or so along filler consisting of at least one song each by Nirvana, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Five Finger Death Punch, etc. The next day we'll hear the same "new" singles with different filler songs by the exact same bands listed earlier. Not that I have anything against those bands, but when you're on the road pretty regularly you can only take so much of the same bands every day.
There's more than enough rock bands out there to vary it up a little from day to day dammit.

/yeah yeah, csb

Dayam man, you can't even bring like an mp3 player and some portable speakers?  That's cruel and unusual boss-like behavior if I ever saw it.  No one should be stuck in that situation.

We probably could, but none of us are really willing to spend the amount of money necessary on portable speakers (and the batteries required for amplified portable speakers) that would get loud enough to overcome the combination of engine noise, tire noise, and wind howling through the ladder rungs noise that our vans generate. I mean I could see doing that for a personally owned vehicle that gets loud, but no one wants to do that just for a work vehicle, mu ...


Word to the wise in that case:  Many capable music devices feature a mode that lets them basically broadcast as a tiny-ranged FM station and your radio can tune into it, alternatively you can buy little transmitters that hook in like headphones to anything and do the same.  I'm guessing the trucks are too new to feature cigarette lighters though eh?  That'd have helped too.
 
2013-06-22 04:34:25 PM  
 
2013-06-22 04:34:32 PM  
I don't care. I love it.
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2013-06-22 04:36:48 PM  

DeathRaySanta: MisterTweak: bronyaur1: I prefer not to listen to 25 minutes of commercials each hour, so I pretty much listen only to public radio over the air.

My wife changed my radio away from NPR once. I allowed it - for about ten minutes of beer, tampon, impotence meds, oncologists, and some screaming guy selling something. I asked her not to do that again.

(having a fairly loud car with no sound insulation makes radio a little pointless anyway, except when idling in traffic)

So, to summarize: You're an NPR listener married to a gal who listens to AM talk? Dayymm, guy.


Hate sex is the best sex. Just ask James Carville.
 
2013-06-22 04:40:28 PM  
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If you were young in the 60's and lived in South Florida, you listened to 560 am, WQAM (We Quit At Midnight).  Rick Shaw was the Johnny Fever of Miami back in the day.

Wonderful, WQAM!
 
2013-06-22 04:45:37 PM  
......i like Pink
 
2013-06-22 04:47:25 PM  
My favorite station was a classic rock station back in San Antonio. Automated, so there was no DJ, and it played a pattern of 4-5 songs, Station ID, a commercial (or rarely two), and then go back to music.

Now the only reasonable station around here is WARO and it is 4 songs, 3 commercials for assorted car dealerships, a couple for overpriced jewelers, a repeat of the dealership commercials, station ID, then some infomercial type commercial, then maybe some music.

/COME TO THE DEALERSHIP AND SAVE!!!! SALES LIKE THIS WON'T BE SEEN AGAIN *BOOM*!!!!!!
//One of the dealership commercials has the typical fast-talking legalese at the that also has white noise ontop of it.
 
2013-06-22 04:51:51 PM  
I burned all my MP3's and torrented the rest of my collection so I am good. I only listen to talk radio & news from my TuneIn Radio app. Only, and ONLY when I listen to actually radio is when I drive my teenage daughters around and amuse myself at watching them sing the same eight songs they play.
 
2013-06-22 04:55:56 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I listen to a fair amount of terrestrial radio. Our boss won't buy any of the satellite services, and he always buys the basic model that doesn't come with things like power doors or windows or cd players or even tape decks so we're usually stuck with a plain old radio when we're driving halfway across the state on service calls. All of us hate the stations that still carry morning shows, there's not a damned one that doesn't suck, we'd all rather just listen to music. But now instead of playing a variety of artists within whatever genre that station specializes in (top 40, rock, classic rock, etc) we keep hearing the same goddamn artists every farking day, multiple times a day. As an example one day we may hear whatever "new" single a few bands have out 4 times a day for about a month or so along filler consisting of at least one song each by Nirvana, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Five Finger Death Punch, etc. The next day we'll hear the same "new" singles with different filler songs by the exact same bands listed earlier. Not that I have anything against those bands, but when you're on the road pretty regularly you can only take so much of the same bands every day.
There's more than enough rock bands out there to vary it up a little from day to day dammit.

/yeah yeah, csb


Maybe try one of these things?
http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan-Radio-Transmitter-IPhone-Hands/dp/B00 9P J5EQW
 
2013-06-22 04:57:25 PM  
It's more like they play the top 40 of 40 years ago
 
2013-06-22 05:06:12 PM  
Somewhere Out There are 13 GB of Pink Floyd.

I mean to catch up to that and gank the snot out of it.
 
2013-06-22 05:10:01 PM  

Spanky McStupid: [img.fark.net image 350x350]

If you were young in the 60's and lived in South Florida, you listened to 560 am, WQAM (We Quit At Midnight).  Rick Shaw was the Johnny Fever of Miami back in the day.

Wonderful, WQAM!


Your home for Miami Hurricanes football.  Affiliates throughout the state.
 
2013-06-22 05:11:31 PM  

Dahnkster: I don't care. I love it.
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I first heard them on NPR. Come to think of it, I find out about most of the music I listen to these days on NPR.

Speaking of, can't wait to see Chvrches. this weekend.
 
2013-06-22 05:11:35 PM  
If I'm listening to the radio, it's on news/talk.  Music and audiobooks come from CD/MP3 Player/USB drive, depending on the car I'm driving.
 
2013-06-22 05:13:59 PM  

Mad_Radhu: DeathRaySanta: MisterTweak: bronyaur1: I prefer not to listen to 25 minutes of commercials each hour, so I pretty much listen only to public radio over the air.

My wife changed my radio away from NPR once. I allowed it - for about ten minutes of beer, tampon, impotence meds, oncologists, and some screaming guy selling something. I asked her not to do that again.

(having a fairly loud car with no sound insulation makes radio a little pointless anyway, except when idling in traffic)

So, to summarize: You're an NPR listener married to a gal who listens to AM talk? Dayymm, guy.

Hate sex is the best sex. Just ask James Carville.


You hatefarked James Carville? How was breakfast?
 
2013-06-22 05:14:07 PM  
I have Sirius but I'm pretty pissed off that half the stations still censor the songs because all they do is run terrestrial radio stations, many WITH commercials!

And OH MY GOD are those morning Mash-Up people out of touch with reality!!!
 
2013-06-22 05:20:04 PM  

serial_crusher: They used to have a 24/7 standup comedy station here in Austin.
Then all of a sudden it was Latin Top 40 or some shiat


They still have the stand-up comedy radio in Phoenix. The signal is pathetic, but most of the time it's the only thing worth listening to on terrestrial.
 
2013-06-22 05:20:58 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: ......i like Pink


So do I - to look at.  Listening, not so much.

WTTS here claims 'World Class Rock' and trumpets how much variety they have.  OK - compared to the local ClearChannelClassicRock station, true - a 300-song playlist beats a 70-song playlist.  But, y'know - I'd as soon hear Weird Al's take on things as the original now and again.  Or _Blue Monday_ by any of the dozen non-Allman Brothers who've recorded it.  Or some prog, or some Fiery Furnaces, or ... hell, my iTunes library is some 23k tracks, only half of which fit in my iPod, which I just keep on shuffle - gimme a station like that.  One where I'm as likely to hear Motorhead as Moby.
 
2013-06-22 05:26:05 PM  
Also, ALL DJs!!   STOP WITH THE RAMPING!!

The song starts when the music starts, not when the singing starts!!  I can not STAND the DJs that banter or read ads up until the first word!!!
 
2013-06-22 05:27:14 PM  
Billboard Hot 100 as of June 29, 2013 (peak positions in parentheses)

1. Robin Thicke, T.I. & Pharell - Blurred Lines
2. Daft Punk - Get Lucky (2)
3. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Can't Hold Us (1)
4. Imagine Dragons - Radioactive (4)
5. Justin Timberlake - Mirrors (2)
6. Florida Georgia Line & Nelly - Cruise (5)
7. Pink - Just Give Me a Reason (1)
8. Selena Gomez - Come and Get It (6)
9. Ariana Grande & Mac Miller - The Way (9)
10. Icona Pop - I Love It (7)
11. Bruno Mars - Treasure (11)
12. Blake Shelton & Pistol Annies - Boys 'Round Here (12)
13. Fall Out Boy - My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (13)
14. Zedd & Foxes - Clarity (14)
15. Mariah Carey & Miguel - #beautiful (15)
16. Rihanna - Stay (3)
17. Bruno Mars - When I Was Your Man (1)
18. Anna Kendrick - Cups (18)
19. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Thrift Shop (1)
20. Avril Lavigne - Here's to Never Growing Up (20)

Other Notables:

22. Darius Rucker - Wagon Wheel (15)
24. Maroon 5 - Love Somebody (24)
26. Demi Lovato - Heart Attack (10)
27. Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop (11)
29. Taylor Swift & Tim McGraw - Highway Don't Care (22)
30. Ellie Goulding & Calvin Harris - I Need Your Love (30)
31. Hunter Hayes - I Want Crazy (31)
32. Taylor Swift - 22 (20)
33. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Same Love (33)
34. Pitbull & Christina Aguilera - Feel This Moment (8)
35. Drake - Started From the Bottom (6)
37. Emeli Sande - Next to Me (25)
39. The Lumineers - Ho Hey (3)
44. Justin Timberlake & Jay-Z - Suit and Tie (3)
49. Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble (2)
50. Ed Sheeran - Lego House (42)
51. Carrie Underwood - See You Again (51)
54. Will.i.am & Justin Bieber - #thatpower (17)
55. Wiz Khalifa & 2 Chainz - We Own It (Fast and Furious) (16)
57. Chris Brown - Fine China (31)
60. Bauuer - Harlem Shake (1)
62. Ke$ha & Will.i.am - Crazy Kids (59)
69. Lana del Rey - Young and Beautiful (22)
75. Psy - Gentleman (5)
81. Nicki Minaj & Lil Wayne - High School (64)
88. Jack Johnson - I Got You (88)
97. Major Lazer - Bubble Butt (97)

After analysis, the future doesn't look bright for Top 40 music, does it now?
 
2013-06-22 05:38:03 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: ......i like Pink


Me too. Out of all of today's pop divas she's the one who I think has real talent.
 
2013-06-22 05:39:24 PM  
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