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(Bleacher Report)   "Is NASCAR abandoning its southern roots" asks columnist who obviously hasn't watched the crapfest that is NASCAR since the dumbass grandson took over   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 62
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2013-06-22 08:42:35 AM
It's almost like the idiot who wrote this thing doesn't know how long they have been racing at Sears Point...
 
2013-06-22 08:48:53 AM

baka-san: It's almost like the idiot who wrote this thing doesn't know how long they have been racing at Sears Point...


...and Riverside before that.
 
2013-06-22 10:36:30 AM
So I guess we're not getting a 24hrs of LeMans thread?
 
2013-06-22 10:48:41 AM
No moreso than country music.
 
2013-06-22 11:39:16 AM
Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?
 
2013-06-22 12:02:47 PM
They haven't run at Wilkesboro since 1996, and at Rockingham since 2004.  And you're trying to ask NOW if they've abandoned their core fanbase?
 
2013-06-22 12:04:12 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


fark that.
 
2013-06-22 12:06:15 PM

kid_icarus: No moreso than country music.



Now you're just screwing with us. Look at this all American couple right here:

www.instablogsimages.com
 
2013-06-22 12:09:21 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


Daytona used to have more of an 'Open Show' kind of feel to it. Guys that were not series regulars would show up to try to get in the show, because you could actually still race in.

So it was more than just a 'NASCAR race'.
 
2013-06-22 12:13:53 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


Life's short; eat dessert first!
 
2013-06-22 12:18:11 PM
Nascar got popular and priced itself right out of the fanbase's trailer park.
 
2013-06-22 12:38:23 PM
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It's clear that NASCAR is lacking in flag display.  I suggest more American flags.
 
2013-06-22 12:43:02 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Life's short; eat dessert first!


That is apparently the philosophy. Hey, I've got an idea. Let's play the Super Bowl the day before Labor Day!

I like to refer to the aforementioned as 'The Daytona 500 of the NFL'. Always gets a chuckle except from those too stupid to get it.
 
2013-06-22 12:43:38 PM

kid_icarus: No moreso than country "music".


FTFY
 
2013-06-22 12:52:52 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


I think it's better to have it early in the season - it gets people paying attention.  And over the last decade, do you really want the most important race to be a snoozefest as all #48 needs is to finish 35th or better?

/can you imagine Monaco as the F1 season finale?  The championship might as well be awarded after qualifying.
 
2013-06-22 12:53:06 PM
Group qualifying is currently on from Road America.
 
2013-06-22 12:57:06 PM

Jensaarai: Group qualifying is currently on from Road America.


I forgot about that. I might OD on racing this weekend.
 
2013-06-22 12:59:59 PM
Meanwhile, in Iowa Sato has a blown engine. Ten spot penalty.
And my Le Mans feed dies.
 
2013-06-22 01:01:12 PM
Heh @ Wallmendinger with rookie stripes.
 
2013-06-22 01:02:52 PM
I'm seeing windshield wipers on the car. Fingers crossed for the absolute hilarity that is a Nationwide road race in the rain later today. It'd make for a nice Le Mans break.
 
2013-06-22 01:15:59 PM
No they aren't.
 
2013-06-22 01:25:52 PM

crotchgrabber: Meanwhile, in Iowa Sato has a blown engine. Ten spot penalty.


nooooooooooooooo.com
 
2013-06-22 01:26:16 PM
If they want even more money they would market it more to urban areas.
 
2013-06-22 01:28:48 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: If they want even more money they would market it more to urban areas.


Spiners on the rims?
 
2013-06-22 01:30:23 PM

UNC_Samurai: And over the last decade, do you really want the most important race to be a snoozefest as all #48 needs is to finish 35th or better?


The point system is a separate issue and needs fixing. It'd be like telling Tom Brady that if he throws for 200 yds, 1 TD, 50% completion rate, and only one pick the Patriots win. Stupid.

Just like Nascar.
 
2013-06-22 01:41:33 PM

John Buck 41: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Life's short; eat dessert first!

That is apparently the philosophy. Hey, I've got an idea. Let's play the Super Bowl the day before Labor Day!

I like to refer to the aforementioned as 'The Daytona 500 of the NFL'. Always gets a chuckle except from those too stupid to get it.


Well, it beats the "let's have all-star games, homerun derbies, dunk contests, and 3-point shooting contests that the best players don't compete in" mentality.
 
2013-06-22 01:58:29 PM
I knew they'd use Sears Point as an example, since they're here this weekend.

Ignoring, of course, that this is the 25th year of NASCAR in the Bay Area.

And of course, Petaluma's dirt track used to be a regular visit for the touring serieses (i have no idea what the plural of series is, and I don't feel like looking it up).

But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.
 
2013-06-22 01:59:16 PM
crotchgrabberMeanwhile, in Iowa Sato has a blown engine. Ten spot penalty.

Seeing Sato's quality of Pit Lizards @ Cali Speedway(seemed like they flew in from Japan) I thought how my friends into Anime would kill to be on pit road, much less mock me for going to a race...
 
2013-06-22 02:02:55 PM
NASCAR is like the NHL or NBA for me. Not much fun to watch on television, but going in person is f*cking awesome.
 
2013-06-22 02:02:58 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.


My dad tells stories about seeing Richard Petty race Riverside. There also was a short track in downtown Oakland ages ago.
 
2013-06-22 02:04:50 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.


i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?
 
2013-06-22 02:05:24 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: I knew they'd use Sears Point as an example, since they're here this weekend.

Ignoring, of course, that this is the 25th year of NASCAR in the Bay Area.

And of course, Petaluma's dirt track used to be a regular visit for the touring serieses (i have no idea what the plural of series is, and I don't feel like looking it up).

But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.


Series is like sheep and moose.  Singular and plural are the same.

/mind y'all, moose bites kin be perty nasty.
//a moose oncet bit my sister-mother
 
2013-06-22 02:06:45 PM

FrancoFile: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: I knew they'd use Sears Point as an example, since they're here this weekend.

Ignoring, of course, that this is the 25th year of NASCAR in the Bay Area.

And of course, Petaluma's dirt track used to be a regular visit for the touring serieses (i have no idea what the plural of series is, and I don't feel like looking it up).

But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

Series is like sheep and moose.  Singular and plural are the same.

/mind y'all, moose bites kin be perty nasty.
//a moose oncet bit my sister-mother


Yeah, I think the correct way to write that sentence would have been something like "Petaluma's dirt track used to be a regular visit for the various touring series."
 
2013-06-22 02:09:10 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


Well, the thing is the Daytona 500 is sort of a "wildcard" event.  The last race of the season needs to be a very standard track, since its going to crown the champion most likely.  Actually, with the current points system, its going to crown the champion pretty much 100% of the time.

You can't have a track like Daytona or Talledega be the final race.  There's far too much good/bad luck involved.

It would be like hosting the Superbowl on an Arena Football League field.
 
2013-06-22 02:15:26 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?


Well Southern California does have the same type of racism that you'd see in the Deep South.

/Heh...had to go there
//The article was stupid
///Can't forget that they built the racetrack in an area locals call "Fon-tucky"
 
2013-06-22 02:15:38 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?


Actually, the article is even more BS than this.  NASCAR still has southern roots.  Most drivers are from the south, and almost every team is headquartered in the south.  That's "roots".  But beyond its roots... its fans and races are spread across the country.  And have been forever, and especially since the 1990's.
 
2013-06-22 02:17:21 PM
Thanks, Subby. From now on, when I think of Brian France, I will have the the image of Joffrey.

/perfect
 
2013-06-22 02:17:55 PM
Ok, you guys finally got me to go read this article. It's like they got someone who had no farking clue what he was talking about (and doesn't like NASCAR much) to make the point. He says:

most regrettably replacing the famed Southern 500 in Darlington, S.C., with a race emanating from California wine country.

Because left and right turns must be new herpaderp. It was Fontana that benefitted from that thing. Then he uses examples like Michigan (First NASCAR Race: 1969) and only earns half credit for Phoenix. (While it got a second race fairly recently, they've been going there since 88.) And that's before you get into the stupid hand wringing over Wonderboy.

Meanwhile, he misses everything that *actually* happened - cookie cutters, The Chase, COT, etc.

How can you fail so hard at an article that has a premise most fans/former fans agree with? Any one of the Fark regulars could've made the point better than this driveby dumbassery.
 
2013-06-22 02:19:34 PM

gunsmack: Nascar got popular and priced itself right out of the fanbase's trailer park.


Actually, a NASCAR event is still by far the cheapest event to see out of all major sports.  Tickets are like $40... probably less in some places.  (I'm going off my personal experience seeing the Coca Cola 600- a premiere event.  $40 tickets.)

Also, you don't need to buy concessions.  You can bring in your own beer, liquor, and food.  And if that's not enough, you have in-and-out privileges.  So you could literally go back to your car and grill dinner during the boring part of a race.

Can you imagine MLB, NFL, NBA allowing that sorta thing?
 
2013-06-22 02:38:08 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?


California had one of the most vibrant racing scenes in the world from before WWII all the way to the present day. On any given weekend, several series are running everything from drags to road courses, and there are oval races all over the place.

They didn't need NASCAR as much as NASCAR needed them.
 
2013-06-22 02:39:22 PM
Next you're going to tell me that those aren't really stock cars.
 
2013-06-22 02:39:50 PM

downstairs: gunsmack: Nascar got popular and priced itself right out of the fanbase's trailer park.

Actually, a NASCAR event is still by far the cheapest event to see out of all major sports.  Tickets are like $40... probably less in some places.  (I'm going off my personal experience seeing the Coca Cola 600- a premiere event.  $40 tickets.)

Also, you don't need to buy concessions.  You can bring in your own beer, liquor, and food.  And if that's not enough, you have in-and-out privileges.  So you could literally go back to your car and grill dinner during the boring part of a race.

Can you imagine MLB, NFL, NBA allowing that sorta thing?


I love the freedom of being able to do just about whatever the fark you want at a race. I go to 2 a year (twins at Daytona and Homestead) I basically pay for my ticket. I bring everything else in with me. At Homestead parking is even free.

I honestly thought after Boston that they might rethink their cooler policy but so far I haven't heard anything about that.
 
2013-06-22 02:43:42 PM
These Gen6 cars look hilariously unstable here compared to the COT.
 
2013-06-22 02:44:06 PM
Mrtraveler01 Can't forget that they built the racetrack in an area locals call "Fon-tucky"

I prefer "Felony Flats" but you realize it's directly East by 2 odd miles of the old Ontario Motor Speedwayimg.fark.net
nevermind that Drag City's a mile or so Northeast of Auto Club Speedway on Route 66 itself. from '55
http://classics.ezinemark.com/lost-dragstrip-fontana-drag-city-16f75 f1 624e.html
 
2013-06-22 02:55:20 PM
By: Jonathan Snowden

So that's what he's doing when he isn't leaking NSA secrets from a hotel room in Hong Kong.
 
2013-06-22 03:01:47 PM

downstairs: John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Well, the thing is the Daytona 500 is sort of a "wildcard" event.  The last race of the season needs to be a very standard track, since its going to crown the champion most likely.  Actually, with the current points system, its going to crown the champion pretty much 100% of the time.

You can't have a track like Daytona or Talledega be the final race.  There's far too much good/bad luck involved.

It would be like hosting the Superbowl on an Arena Football League field.


Or in NYC in a stadium with no dome. In early February 2014. I can't farking wait. Hopefully it will be a blizzard similar to the first weekend of February 2013.
 
2013-06-22 03:09:39 PM

John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?


That whole Daytona == Superbowl of NASCAR is bullshiat.  It has the biggest purse.  That's it.  It rewards the same number of points as any other race.  It's beyond boring to attend in person.  It's definitely not one of the better races on television.
 
2013-06-22 03:09:46 PM
Not to worry.

NASCAR's Southern roots are still very much on display.

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2013-06-22 03:12:11 PM

John Buck 41: Or in NYC in a stadium with no dome. In early February 2014. I can't farking wait. Hopefully it will be a blizzard similar to the first weekend of February 2013.


If it beats the cluster fark that Dallas pulled on in the middle of an ice storm while trying to shove temporary bleachers in every open space while hosting events 30 miles away from the stadium...then it will still be better than that.

That Super Bowl was a disaster.
 
2013-06-22 03:21:59 PM

jaytkay: Not to worry.

NASCAR's Southern roots are still very much on display.

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Wow. Those pics show everything that is bad about rednecks, and i say that as one.

Not a Nascar fan though, so I get a pass, right?
 
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