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2013-06-22 11:03:11 AM  
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2013-06-22 11:16:19 AM  
A man is seen stealing food. How shall we treat such scum, such human dregs?
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2013-06-22 11:30:02 AM  
And yet, there's no video in TFA.
 
2013-06-22 11:30:10 AM  
"I ain't took nothing!" Ratcliff said.

meaning you took something.  why don't you just SAY you took something
 
2013-06-22 11:30:49 AM  
I worked loss prevention in 2000. Yes, grocery stores have handcuffs. Well, at least their contracted loss prevention agents do.

You see that mirror strip near the ceiling that goes all around the store? 2 way mirror. Cat walk.
Those cameras? They're watching you.
People who walk around with filled carts who seem to be aimlessly walking around and spying on everyone? Agents.
 
2013-06-22 11:31:31 AM  
Next up, Tasers.
 
2013-06-22 11:31:48 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: A man is seen stealing food. How shall we treat such scum, such human dregs?
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Honestly, that really pisses me off.  But the guy could've been a better thief.
 
2013-06-22 11:32:33 AM  
So glad i got out of retail, had to deal with shoplifting all the time. They had money they just liked doing it. Well, until I called the cops.
 
2013-06-22 11:32:47 AM  
i don't get why the hell you would steal farking food.  i get $200 a month on food stamps and that buys more food that i can eat
 
2013-06-22 11:33:35 AM  

Dadoody: I worked loss prevention in 2000. Yes, grocery stores have handcuffs. Well, at least their contracted loss prevention agents do.

You see that mirror strip near the ceiling that goes all around the store? 2 way mirror. Cat walk.
Those cameras? They're watching you.
People who walk around with filled carts who seem to be aimlessly walking around and spying on everyone? Agents.


oooooh. surveillance.  did you have cameras in the bathrooms too?  because that's where I hide the crab legs in the stroller.
 
2013-06-22 11:34:25 AM  

johnMTS: So glad i got out of retail, had to deal with shoplifting all the time. They had money they just liked doing it. Well, until I called the cops.


if you're a loss prevention officer worth your salt, you're looking at employees first off.
 
2013-06-22 11:35:26 AM  
I don't think you can invoke shopkeeper's privilege to detain unless the shopkeeper has first hand knowledge that the person is stealing at that moment.  Doing it after the fact--like the next day--is best left up to the police.   (That is, you file a police report, hand over a copy of the video, and call the police the next time the guy comes into the store.  You can't do a citizen's arrest for a misdemeanor, and the items this guy stole probably don't add up to a felony.   I have little sympathy for thieves, but this shopkeeper is opening himself up to significant liability.   He'd save money in the long run by hiring a security guard to stand at the door.
 
2013-06-22 11:36:19 AM  
He was probably just going along with that old song, "Eggs down your pants, Eggs down your pants ,
♪  ".....
 
2013-06-22 11:37:27 AM  

MNguy: Dadoody: I worked loss prevention in 2000. Yes, grocery stores have handcuffs. Well, at least their contracted loss prevention agents do.

You see that mirror strip near the ceiling that goes all around the store? 2 way mirror. Cat walk.
Those cameras? They're watching you.
People who walk around with filled carts who seem to be aimlessly walking around and spying on everyone? Agents.

oooooh. surveillance.  did you have cameras in the bathrooms too?  because that's where I hide the crab legs in the stroller.


My ex was security at a major dept. store, and if you went into the bathroom with something and came out w/out it, they'd quickly search to see if you dumped it. If it's not there, you've obviously concealed it. Get ready for handcuffs.
 
2013-06-22 11:37:53 AM  
Fiesta security helping LP.
Handcuffs.  Gun.  Stungun for a while but it got knocked down in a scuffle and broke.  Bullet proof vest after a drive by on me in the parking lot.
$7.50 an hour (considered high pay for security at the time).  Was in a major tackle/fight at least every other week, detaining people every day.  I was going to end up in the hospital or dead, just a matter of time.

Top 5 highlights of my life was taking the advice of the people I worked with and getting a job at Dell instead of doing that shiat.  Doubled my pay.  The early 90's for me were a mess.
 
2013-06-22 11:39:06 AM  

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2013-06-22 11:43:11 AM  
Doing it after the fact--like the next day--is best left up to the police.

In some places that is the law. I don't know Florida law on citizen's arrest.
 
2013-06-22 11:43:16 AM  
nobody can stuff 50 eggs down their pants
 
2013-06-22 11:44:05 AM  
bongo98902:

My ex was security at a major dept. store, and if you went into the bathroom with something and came out w/out it, they'd quickly search to see if you dumped it. If it's not there, you've obviously concealed it. Get ready for handcuffs.

I bet I could outrun her fat ass anyway.  Good luck catching me.
 
2013-06-22 11:44:40 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: nobody can stuff 50 eggs down their pants


Is that a bet?  That sounds like a bet.
 
2013-06-22 11:45:40 AM  
When I was working for Radio Shack, mall security and I took down a shoplifter who wasn't going to go quietly. The police arrived after about 30 seconds(They were on the lot already for another incident), tased the guy twice, and he shiat on the floor.
 
2013-06-22 11:46:10 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: nobody can stuff 50 eggs down their pants


I saw a skinny 18 year old stuff a wine bottle up her cooch and hide it under her miniskirt before waddling for the front door.  50 eggs would be a walk in the park for some of the desperate and creative enthusiast.
 
2013-06-22 11:46:43 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: A man is seen stealing food. How shall we treat such scum, such human dregs?
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point him toward the local welfare office? Tell him where the local Mission is? Buy him a sammich? Give him AverageAmericanGuy's address?
 
2013-06-22 11:47:54 AM  
You see how he is bending his wrist? This is a trick these cons use to cause sores, bruising or cuts when put in cuffs to claim abuse... Totally self inflicted!
 
2013-06-22 11:48:38 AM  
I got caught shoplifting once, I was living in Israel back in the '80s and due to some kind of crisis needed to get money for a flight home as quickly as possible, I had some money but not enough, and didn't have Daddy-money to rely on. I'd been on kibbutz until this point but had just left so had nowhere to stay, and now I was in Tel Aviv where sleeping rough wasn't as easy as I'd have liked (they spruced up the beaches overnight by dragging them with chains attached to tractors), but I found a cheap (completely free) place to sleep in a school playground and got an easy, fairly well paid job as a dishwasher. The job provided food and alcohol as well as money, but only one meal a day so anything else I wanted to eat I had to provide, which I did by appropriating it from a supermarket. I was being hardcore on myself, spend as little as possible and get a flight.
Longer story shorter I managed to save up enough money to buy a flight in just over a week by following these cost-cutting exercises, but it would've been a few days less had I not been caught, drunk, with some food bulging out the front of my shorts. I guess I'd abused the place and also got complacent (drunk) because I didn't even notice the security guy until he grabbed me when I tried to leave after paying for just one apple, again.
Was took into an office, told that I needed to pay a fine or they'd get the police. Didn't fancy meeting the police (my address? why it's the doorway to the bomb shelter in the school playground - would probably have resulted in a very expensive extradition flight) so we got into haggling over the fine. Yes, I haggled the fine. Only in Israel.
In the end I paid about 30% of what they started at, I paid something like $20 or so at the time.
Didn't steal after that, just abused the falafel stands in Dizengoff Square where you could pay two shekels or thereabouts and keep eating until they lost their temper with you.
Not proud I stole but haggling down the fine still gives me smiles when I remember it.
/foolishly young CSB
 
2013-06-22 11:50:06 AM  
According to the Cop Math Institute of Queens losses due to shoplifting cost consumers eleventy quadrillion dollars, a month.
 
2013-06-22 11:50:06 AM  

MNguy: bongo98902:

My ex was security at a major dept. store, and if you went into the bathroom with something and came out w/out it, they'd quickly search to see if you dumped it. If it's not there, you've obviously concealed it. Get ready for handcuffs.

I bet I could outrun her fat ass anyway.  Good luck catching me.


Speed is a non issue if the LP is on the ball, you are effectively trapped when you are stopped.  I had a line up picked out for bigger stronger looking guys in case they tried to bolt where I would plan the interception lined up with a pillar and tackle them into it.  They either got pinned up against it or, usually, it knocked the crap out of them enough that they just sort of crumpled to the floor.  If LP has left you an easy avenue for escape, then you deserve to get away.  Most places with LP have their boundries set at either the parking lot or the sidewalk border, like making it to the endzone.  Some places like Home Depot wont even contest a runner.  Not worth the liability.
 
2013-06-22 11:53:03 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: i don't get why the hell you would steal farking food.  i get $200 a month on food stamps and that buys more food that i can eat


I don't think felons can get food stamps, so some of these people run into that problem.   But, like another farker mentioned, thieves often have enough money in their pocket.  They just don't want to spend it on whatever it is they are stealing.

MNguy: if you're a loss prevention officer worth your salt, you're looking at employees first off.


Yep, people will get a job at Christmas time just so family/friends can go through their checkout lane on a particular time and day.  The cashier will only scan every second or third item and then never show up at work again.   This is actually the kind of theft a receipt checker at the door has the best chance of catching.
 
2013-06-22 11:53:20 AM  
Who's to say that he didn't lay those eggs himself?
 
2013-06-22 11:53:21 AM  

orclover: Some places like Home Depot wont even contest a runner.  Not worth the liability.


It's the mom and pops that'll fark you up. With them, it's personal.
 
2013-06-22 11:56:47 AM  

YoOjo: I got caught shoplifting once, I was living in Israel back in the '80s and due to some kind of crisis needed to get money for a flight home as quickly as possible, I had some money but not enough, and didn't have Daddy-money to rely on. I'd been on kibbutz until this point but had just left so had nowhere to stay, and now I was in Tel Aviv where sleeping rough wasn't as easy as I'd have liked (they spruced up the beaches overnight by dragging them with chains attached to tractors), but I found a cheap (completely free) place to sleep in a school playground and got an easy, fairly well paid job as a dishwasher. The job provided food and alcohol as well as money, but only one meal a day so anything else I wanted to eat I had to provide, which I did by appropriating it from a supermarket. I was being hardcore on myself, spend as little as possible and get a flight.
Longer story shorter I managed to save up enough money to buy a flight in just over a week by following these cost-cutting exercises, but it would've been a few days less had I not been caught, drunk, with some food bulging out the front of my shorts. I guess I'd abused the place and also got complacent (drunk) because I didn't even notice the security guy until he grabbed me when I tried to leave after paying for just one apple, again.
Was took into an office, told that I needed to pay a fine or they'd get the police. Didn't fancy meeting the police (my address? why it's the doorway to the bomb shelter in the school playground - would probably have resulted in a very expensive extradition flight) so we got into haggling over the fine. Yes, I haggled the fine. Only in Israel.
In the end I paid about 30% of what they started at, I paid something like $20 or so at the time.
Didn't steal after that, just abused the falafel stands in Dizengoff Square where you could pay two shekels or thereabouts and keep eating until they lost their temper with you.
Not proud I stole but haggling down the fine still gives me sm ...


At least you managed to jew down that fine!
 
2013-06-22 12:02:18 PM  

bongo98902: My ex was security at a major dept. store, and if you went into the bathroom with something and came out w/out it, they'd quickly search to see if you dumped it. If it's not there, you've obviously concealed it. Get ready for handcuffs.


Dressing rooms, too.
 
2013-06-22 12:04:25 PM  
It was "all you can eat while shopping" day at my local ghettofoods a couple of days ago, apparently.  Everybody I passed was munching on something out of a freshly-opened package.
 
2013-06-22 12:05:33 PM  
Oh a field goal dog.  Yeah I don't care.

/It's up
//And it's goooood!!!
 
2013-06-22 12:06:46 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: It was "all you can eat while shopping" day at my local ghettofoods a couple of days ago, apparently.  Everybody I passed was munching on something out of a freshly-opened package.


And of course everything in their cart will be paid for with WIC and food stamps. Any OTC drugs and cosmetics that are needed will be concealed on their person.
 
2013-06-22 12:07:51 PM  

DrBrownCow: Jon iz teh kewl: i don't get why the hell you would steal farking food.  i get $200 a month on food stamps and that buys more food that i can eat

I don't think felons can get food stamps, so some of these people run into that problem.   But, like another farker mentioned, thieves often have enough money in their pocket.  They just don't want to spend it on whatever it is they are stealing.


theives farking suck.  i blame the Theivery Corporation

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2013-06-22 12:13:17 PM  
DAMMIT!!!!!! Watch both all 30 minutes to see WTF was in the BAG! And the cop didn't even look in it!! Must be a law in Florida even when the person is arrested, they let his friend take it.
 
2013-06-22 12:13:54 PM  
As someone who stops shopliftes for a living i am not surprised to see cuffs.
 
2013-06-22 12:15:39 PM  

KimNorth: DAMMIT!!!!!! Watch both all 30 minutes to see WTF was in the BAG! And the cop didn't even look in it!! Must be a law in Florida even when the person is arrested, they let his friend take it.


hey it's Orlando, the future Olympics location in 2024.
 
2013-06-22 12:17:11 PM  
This is why we can't steal nice things.
 
2013-06-22 12:22:53 PM  
Seriously... who the hell steals eggs?
 
2013-06-22 12:23:07 PM  

YoOjo: I got caught shoplifting once, I was living in Israel back in the '80s and due to some kind of crisis needed to get money for a flight home as quickly as possible, I had some money but not enough, and didn't have Daddy-money to rely on. I'd been on kibbutz until this point but had just left so had nowhere to stay, and now I was in Tel Aviv where sleeping rough wasn't as easy as I'd have liked (they spruced up the beaches overnight by dragging them with chains attached to tractors), but I found a cheap (completely free) place to sleep in a school playground and got an easy, fairly well paid job as a dishwasher. The job provided food and alcohol as well as money, but only one meal a day so anything else I wanted to eat I had to provide, which I did by appropriating it from a supermarket. I was being hardcore on myself, spend as little as possible and get a flight.
Longer story shorter I managed to save up enough money to buy a flight in just over a week by following these cost-cutting exercises, but it would've been a few days less had I not been caught, drunk, with some food bulging out the front of my shorts. I guess I'd abused the place and also got complacent (drunk) because I didn't even notice the security guy until he grabbed me when I tried to leave after paying for just one apple, again.
Was took into an office, told that I needed to pay a fine or they'd get the police. Didn't fancy meeting the police (my address? why it's the doorway to the bomb shelter in the school playground - would probably have resulted in a very expensive extradition flight) so we got into haggling over the fine. Yes, I haggled the fine. Only in Israel.
In the end I paid about 30% of what they started at, I paid something like $20 or so at the time.
Didn't steal after that, just abused the falafel stands in Dizengoff Square where you could pay two shekels or thereabouts and keep eating until they lost their temper with you.
Not proud I stole but haggling down the fine still gives me sm ...


Ah I Israel had a blast for 3 months until one day I stopped for an ice treat in  Tel Aviv and was going to sit and eat it outside but decided to walk with it instead. I got about 4 blocks and heard a BOOM! A bus blew up right in front of where I would have been sitting. Time to go home!!!!!! I would have prostituted myself to get out of there! So you stealing a few things so what!!
 
2013-06-22 12:25:40 PM  

redTiburon: AverageAmericanGuy: A man is seen stealing food. How shall we treat such scum, such human dregs?
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point him toward the local welfare office? Tell him where the local Mission is? Buy him a sammich? Give him AverageAmericanGuy's address?


All better solutions than taking him to jail.
 
2013-06-22 12:27:26 PM  

DrBrownCow: You can't do a citizen's arrest for a misdemeanor, and the items this guy stole probably don't add up to a felony.


In most states you can if it takes place in front of you.  Probable cause for a felony, direct observation for a misdemeanor.

In general, and in most places, to make a detention/arrest as an LPO (or whatever term the store uses), the LPO has to have seen the person take AND conceal the item, maintained uninterrupted visual contact with them, and the subject has to have gone past the last possible point of sale.
 
2013-06-22 12:28:33 PM  

ElLoco: Seriously... who the hell steals eggs?


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2013-06-22 12:32:33 PM  

Bslim: Didn't steal after that, just abused the falafel stands in Dizengoff Square where you could pay two shekels or thereabouts and keep eating until they lost their temper with you.
Not proud I stole but haggling down the fine still gives me sm ...

At least you managed to jew down that fine!


Oh no you didn't!!! Oh well it's fark.....
 
2013-06-22 12:38:11 PM  

MNguy: johnMTS: So glad i got out of retail, had to deal with shoplifting all the time. They had money they just liked doing it. Well, until I called the cops.

if you're a loss prevention officer worth your salt, you're looking at employees first off.


We have two layers of security.  An outside agency that deals with the shoplifters.  This protects against lawsuits aimed at out company.

Then we have a team of ex FBI/NYPD that focuses on the employees.  Both teams can do the other's jobs and work together, but each has their primary focus
 
2013-06-22 12:49:08 PM  

KimNorth: Ah Israel, I had a blast for 3 months until one day I stopped for an ice treat in Tel Aviv and was going to sit and eat it outside but decided to walk with it instead. I got about 4 blocks and heard a BOOM! A bus blew up right in front of where I would have been sitting. Time to go home!!!!!! I would have prostituted myself to get out of there! So you stealing a few things so what!!


What you did there...I see it.
 
2013-06-22 12:49:23 PM  

KimNorth: Ah I Israel had a blast for 3 months until one day I stopped for an ice treat in   Tel Aviv and was going to sit and eat it outside but decided to walk with it instead. I got about 4 blocks and heard a BOOM! A bus blew up right in front of where I would have been sitting. Time to go home!!!!!! I would have prostituted myself to get out of there! So you stealing a few things so what!!


Yes, same era. I looked like and (inadvertently) dressed like an Israeli, olive skin, black cropped hair, white t.shirt, army surplus pants and those see-thru jelly sandals (remember them?) so I avoided Jerusalem because of all the random stabbings of Israelis that were going on.
Went again soon after, just in time for the scuds. Was on a farm near the border with a farmer that refused to tell me what they were saying on the IDF radio news regarding the impending war in Iraq/Kuwait. Finally gave up and left, had a very cheap and lovely month in a completely deserted Egypt.
 
2013-06-22 01:11:17 PM  
HAhahaha pure awesome.
 
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