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(Washington Examiner)   The Greenpeace booklet that sparked a major McDonald's libel suit was written by a police infiltrator. Conspiracy theorists still having best year EVER   (washingtonexaminer.com) divider line 35
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2013-06-22 07:49:58 AM
Welcome to the future. Your Russian and East German guides will be along shortly to give you a brief introduction to totalitarianism and secret police.

Thank you and we hope you enjoy your stay in Dystopia.
 
2013-06-22 08:02:15 AM
Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?
 
2013-06-22 08:03:11 AM
juandos • 4 hours ago

Ahhh, the corruption and lack of moral standards in Euro-Weasel land approaches that of our present day administration...

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Well, that escalated at moderate speed
 
2013-06-22 08:18:37 AM
This is what happens when courts allow "sting" operations, and other forms of entrapment.
 
2013-06-22 08:19:54 AM
The thing is.... he may have been a cop, but almost everything in that leaflet was found to be accurate during the trial.  Now THAT's deep cover.  Conspiracy aside, I doubt the police plan was to have this guy write a leaflet, and then have the group sued out of existence.  He was likely just "fitting in"; in the past, police officers infiltrating activist groups have ended up participating in all sorts of illegal (though not necessarily wrong) activities, and even romantically involved with other group members.
 
2013-06-22 08:20:44 AM
Meh, in a decade we'll find out that the guy was sent by the Mob to infiltrate the police department.

/And the Iranian Moderates are using money from Big Media to control the Goldfish Fanciers on behalf of their masters, the Bavarian Assassins.
 
2013-06-22 08:22:10 AM
just working to meet quotas. and it is mostly junk food.
 
2013-06-22 08:30:30 AM

bill4935: /And the Iranian Moderates are using money from Big Media to control the Goldfish Fanciers on behalf of their masters, the Bavarian Assassins.


Fnord
 
2013-06-22 08:33:29 AM

geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?


If it weren't for the cops, there'd be no domestic terrorism.
 
2013-06-22 08:42:40 AM
We do not live in a free country. We live in a facsist banana republic.
 
2013-06-22 08:42:53 AM
Doesn't this story piss you off?  Don't you wish you had the BALLS to DO SOMETHING about it?  Tell me in detail what you want to do, right into my lapel flower.
 
2013-06-22 08:42:59 AM

geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?


Yup. Sometimes the results can be hilarious. From Wikipedia:

Denver police officers were also found to have used undercover detectives to instigate violence against police during the 2008 Democratic National Convention. This ultimately resulted in the use of pepper spray against their own infiltrating agents.[5]
 
2013-06-22 08:52:58 AM
This just in:

Police are Corrupt Idiots!

-- film at 11
 
2013-06-22 09:13:55 AM

Nemo's Brother: We do not live in a free country. We live in a facsist banana republic.


Huh, from your previous posts, I assumed you lived in America, rather than Great Britain. Because this story is about a London police officer infiltrating a London Greenpeace branch.
 
2013-06-22 09:18:32 AM

LordJiro: Nemo's Brother: We do not live in a free country. We live in a facsist banana republic.

Huh, from your previous posts, I assumed you lived in America, rather than Great Britain. Because this story is about a London police officer infiltrating a London Greenpeace branch.


English?  Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2013-06-22 09:24:18 AM
Collateral damage
 
2013-06-22 09:26:33 AM

born_yesterday: Doesn't this story piss you off?  Don't you wish you had the BALLS to DO SOMETHING about it?  Tell me in detail what you want to do, right into my lapel flower.


YEAH!  Let's organise a....heeeeey, waitaminute
 
2013-06-22 09:37:49 AM

No Such Agency: He was likely just "fitting in"; in the past, police officers infiltrating activist groups have ended up participating in all sorts of illegal (though not necessarily wrong) activities, and even romantically involved with other group members.


Interestingly enough, the same Officer fathered a child with a Greenpeace activist while undercover...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children- ac tivists
 
2013-06-22 09:52:05 AM
and from the aryan brotherhood from the days of timothy

"close quote"
"you know who the traitors are  they are the ones who always have transportation and cell phone but no apparent job"
 
2013-06-22 09:52:52 AM
This informant thing needs to be curtailed. the potential for abuse nears 100%.
 
2013-06-22 09:58:05 AM

geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?


Leon Czolgosz, the guy who shot McKinley, kept getting kicked out of anarchist groups because he was so radical that everyone else thought he was a cop.
 
2013-06-22 09:58:44 AM
This is effing hilarious. It cost McDonalds millions of dollars and it made fascist cops look like idiots. These activists couldn't have pulled off something like this on their own in a million years.
 
2013-06-22 10:24:58 AM

sigdiamond2000: This is effing hilarious. It cost McDonalds millions of dollars and it made fascist cops look like idiots. These activists couldn't have pulled off something like this on their own in a million years.


I wonder if McDonalds will turn around and sue the cops.
 
2013-06-22 11:16:30 AM

geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?


That's why you tell one informant that you suspect another informant and have them help with security by running surveillance on each other.
 
2013-06-22 11:24:48 AM

Loren: I wonder if McDonalds will turn around and sue the cops.


McDonalds and Greenpeace should sue the cops over this.
 
2013-06-22 11:47:08 AM

No Such Agency: The thing is.... he may have been a cop, but almost everything in that leaflet was found to be accurate during the trial.  Now THAT's deep cover.  Conspiracy aside, I doubt the police plan was to have this guy write a leaflet, and then have the group sued out of existence.  He was likely just "fitting in"; in the past, police officers infiltrating activist groups have ended up participating in all sorts of illegal (though not necessarily wrong) activities, and even romantically involved with other group members.


Heck, the cop probably helped tone down the more libel-worthy accusations, for fear of getting his cover blown if he acted too stereotypical.
 
2013-06-22 11:51:19 AM

born_yesterday: Doesn't this story piss you off?  Don't you wish you had the BALLS to DO SOMETHING about it?  Tell me in detail what you want to do, right into my lapel flower.


Is that fabric gabardine?
 
2013-06-22 11:54:37 AM

Nemo's Brother: We do not live in a free country. We live in a facsist banana republic.


Maybe you do, but in the country where this actually happened, they live in a perfect progressive paradise.

/a police state is awesome, as long as you're the police
//yes, even in a starving shiathole like North Korea, it's still awesome for all the tail you can take from anyone you want, and nobody dares even make the accusation of rape
///and if they're anything you can't get locally, send out bandits to "import" it... it's how James Joseph Dresnok got all his wives and other sex toys
 
2013-06-22 11:59:33 AM
It's Not A Conspiracy If It's True™
 
2013-06-22 12:00:00 PM

LoneWolf343: geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?

Leon Czolgosz, the guy who shot McKinley, kept getting kicked out of anarchist groups because he was so radical that everyone else thought he was a cop.


I guess he proved his bona fides.
 
2013-06-22 02:27:52 PM

ModernLuddite: geoduck42: Isn't that the standard rule if you're working with any kind of social justice or environmental group? The guy making the most noise about radical action is most likely to be the police infiltrator?

If it weren't for the cops, there'd be no domestic terrorism.


Is there a lot of domestic terrorism in Canada?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada  says that in the last ten years the sum total of Canadian domestic terrorism amounts to...two fires set. One death in one, $300,000 damages in the other.

When you have real problems, then you can complain about your make-believe police state.
 
2013-06-22 03:09:36 PM
Why the hell are cops infiltrating Greenpeace?
 
2013-06-22 03:23:09 PM
LoneWolf343
Leon Czolgosz, the guy who shot McKinley, kept getting kicked out of anarchist groups because he was so radical that everyone else thought he was a cop.

Security culture 101: If someone's dangerous and reckless, either you kick them out because they're a cop, or you kick them out because they're dangerous and reckless.
 
2013-06-22 03:41:02 PM
karmaceutical
Why the hell are cops infiltrating Greenpeace?

Security theater. Gotta keep people afraid somehow. "If the police were watching this group then they must have been up to something!". And targeting non-violent groups, even when there are many violent ones that could be mopped up, creates the impression that it is a valuable use of resources to go after them, which further drives home the idea that they are dangerous, which slowly shrinks the domain of dissent.
 
2013-06-22 08:22:18 PM

RanDomino: karmaceutical
Why the hell are cops infiltrating Greenpeace?

Security theater. Gotta keep people afraid somehow. "If the police were watching this group then they must have been up to something!". And targeting non-violent groups, even when there are many violent ones that could be mopped up, creates the impression that it is a valuable use of resources to go after them, which further drives home the idea that they are dangerous, which slowly shrinks the domain of dissent.


Well but also whilst Greenpeace are a bit of a joke to everyone now, you have to remember they were a pretty big deal in the 80s.  So much of a big deal that the French president ordered an act of terrorism against them in a friendly nation.

/fark you, France
 
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