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(LA Times)   Journalist Michael Hastings wrote that he was working on a "big story" and was going "off the radar for a bit" hours before he totally accidentally crashed his car into a tree at 100 miles an hour   (latimes.com) divider line 172
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2013-06-22 11:39:44 AM

Waldo Pepper: Egalitarian: sometimes stupid crap happens with no conspiracy whatsoever.

I may be biased because I have to watch Burn Notice all the time so I dismiss 100% of what goes on on that show -- the explosions, assassinations and ridiculous spy commentary, all of it.

I know I shouldn't ask but, Why do you have to watch burn notice all the time?


BF likes the show, likes me to be with him all the time so ... I get way more Burn Notice than I would ever watch on my own.

\typing from a laptop on a TV tray in the family room
 
2013-06-22 11:41:18 AM
NSA tree jumped out in front of his car?
 
2013-06-22 11:52:27 AM
According to conspiracy theorists, Bill Clinton was responsible for the murder of a guy named Gandy Baugh (google "The Clinton Death List").  According to conspiracy theorists, Obama somehow resurrected Mr. Baugh a few years later just so he could murder him a second time (google "The Obama Death List").

Since Obama has some kind of supernatural abilities that we can't understand, it's best to assume that any death can be reasonably attributed to his dark, magical power, even those that occurred before Obama was born.

Trust me, I've studied it out.  Hell, with all the research I've been doing on my computer, I'm surprised the NSA hasn't+++++++++++++++++++++++CARRIER LOST+++++++++++++++++++++++
 
2013-06-22 11:56:25 AM

Egalitarian: Waldo Pepper: Egalitarian: sometimes stupid crap happens with no conspiracy whatsoever.

I may be biased because I have to watch Burn Notice all the time so I dismiss 100% of what goes on on that show -- the explosions, assassinations and ridiculous spy commentary, all of it.

I know I shouldn't ask but, Why do you have to watch burn notice all the time?

BF likes the show, likes me to be with him all the time so ... I get way more Burn Notice than I would ever watch on my own.

\typing from a laptop on a TV tray in the family room


go to victoriassecret.com and find a sexy outfit, wear for bf if he breaks away from burn notice problem solved, if he doesn't , dump bf problem solved
 
2013-06-22 12:02:58 PM

HighOnCraic: According to conspiracy theorists, Bill Clinton was responsible for the murder of a guy named Gandy Baugh (google "The Clinton Death List").  According to conspiracy theorists, Obama somehow resurrected Mr. Baugh a few years later just so he could murder him a second time (google "The Obama Death List").

Since Obama has some kind of supernatural abilities that we can't understand, it's best to assume that any death can be reasonably attributed to his dark, magical power, even those that occurred before Obama was born.

Trust me, I've studied it out.  Hell, with all the research I've been doing on my computer, I'm surprised the NSA hasn't+++++++++++++++++++++++CARRIER LOST+++++++++++++++++++++++


Obama killed Lincoln, Garfield and McKinley?

/did he also make Harrison do his two hour speech in the rain in March, too?
 
2013-06-22 12:18:51 PM

stamped human bacon: Damn, took long enough for someone to say it.


I know, right?  I did a couple text searches, was surprised no one said that yet.
 
2013-06-22 12:46:30 PM
The usual masses of uninformed conspiracy nuts have come out of the woodwork again. I've seen idiots who can't understand how a car could catch on fire in an accident, or how the bolts of an engine could break free, even though car experts have pointed out that both happen pretty often. Just because the guy was working on a big story, and claimed there was an FBI investigation, does not mean that he didn't get drunk and plow into a tree, or get distracted for a moment, or have a mental breakdown while driving, or THOUGHT someone was tailing him and tried to get away, or got run off the road by one of LA's many crazy drivers with no connections to any "hit squad," or was just the victim of one of the many fatal single car accidents that happen in the US all the time.

The bottom line is, there are a lot safer and more logical ways to bump some body off than to try to orchestrate a car crash on a heavily populated street in Los Angeles. Those homes on Highland are pricey places - I wouldn't be surprised if the police find home security footage that shows Hastings' wreck, or what he was doing moments before the wreck.  Have his family and friends said what he was doing out at 4am?
 
2013-06-22 12:50:31 PM
Same as Buford Pusser.
 
2013-06-22 12:57:13 PM

shower_in_my_socks: The usual masses of uninformed conspiracy nuts have come out of the woodwork again. I've seen idiots who can't understand how a car could catch on fire in an accident, or how the bolts of an engine could break free, even though car experts have pointed out that both happen pretty often. Just because the guy was working on a big story, and claimed there was an FBI investigation, does not mean that he didn't get drunk and plow into a tree, or get distracted for a moment, or have a mental breakdown while driving, or THOUGHT someone was tailing him and tried to get away, or got run off the road by one of LA's many crazy drivers with no connections to any "hit squad," or was just the victim of one of the many fatal single car accidents that happen in the US all the time.

The bottom line is, there are a lot safer and more logical ways to bump some body off than to try to orchestrate a car crash on a heavily populated street in Los Angeles. Those homes on Highland are pricey places - I wouldn't be surprised if the police find home security footage that shows Hastings' wreck, or what he was doing moments before the wreck.  Have his family and friends said what he was doing out at 4am?


I know

Remember how the conspiracy nuts claimed Obama killed Breitbart via heart attack? That would be the perfect way to assassinate someone. And no, Obama didnt kill Breitbart.

There are much better and easier ways to kill someone. An accident at 100mph isnt that stylish.
 
2013-06-22 01:18:35 PM

TV's Vinnie: thamike: TV's Vinnie: Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.

You love the NSA's whip.

Eyes are rolling, gentlemen.

You know, it's pretty farking sad that here we have a case of the government committing a crime against the entire human race, and yet conformist chickensh*ts like you find nothing wrong about it.


You know it's a legitimate concern, I just wish we had someone who wasn't as massive of a douche as Snowden is to leak this to the public.

He really is a coward with delusions of grandeur. And just to tell us what most of us already figured was the obvious 6 years ago.
 
2013-06-22 01:29:00 PM

Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.


How many times a day do you have to brush your teeth to get the boot polish off?
 
2013-06-22 01:31:14 PM

MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales


heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.
 
2013-06-22 01:33:54 PM

IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.


Still clinging onto that one I see.
 
2013-06-22 01:37:32 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Hobodeluxe: Arnebeck presents evidence that Karl Rove threatened Connell, cautioning that if Connell didn't "take the fall" for election fraud in Ohio, Connell would face prosecution for supposed lobby law violations.

Where is this evidence?
Was this an email?  A recording?
Why didn't he go public with it the way Snowden did?


Cause he's not a COWARD like Snowden is and sent it up the proper whistle blowing channels that invariably work out well for all involved!

AMIRITE!!!!
 
2013-06-22 01:52:46 PM

Mrtraveler01: TV's Vinnie: thamike: TV's Vinnie: Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.

You love the NSA's whip.

Eyes are rolling, gentlemen.

You know, it's pretty farking sad that here we have a case of the government committing a crime against the entire human race, and yet conformist chickensh*ts like you find nothing wrong about it.

You know it's a legitimate concern, I just wish we had someone who wasn't as massive of a douche as Snowden is to leak this to the public.

He really is a coward with delusions of grandeur. And just to tell us what most of us already figured was the obvious 6 years ago.


1. Even if Fred Phelps leaked this, I'd find something good to say about the creep. What the NSA is doing is wrong and totally threatens Democracy itself. Governments that spy on their own citizens are looking for any excuse to punish those citizens.

2. The tales about him being a douche stink of a government bullsh*t story put into the press (where media dick-lickers like Chris Mathews are more than happy to spread it around). A total discrediting campaign designed to crush favorable opinion and support for Snowden.
 
2013-06-22 01:58:25 PM

TV's Vinnie: The tales about him being a douche stink of a government bullsh*t story put into the press (where media dick-lickers like Chris Mathews are more than happy to spread it around).


No...I based that off of the interviews he had with the Guardian and other foreign media.

He may have a legitimate cause, but he is a total douche.
 
2013-06-22 02:16:14 PM

Mrtraveler01: TV's Vinnie: The tales about him being a douche stink of a government bullsh*t story put into the press (where media dick-lickers like Chris Mathews are more than happy to spread it around).

No...I based that off of the interviews he had with the Guardian and other foreign media.


Again, take that stuff with a grain of salt. The Powers That Be just got caught red-handed and they are going to make sure this guy doesn't inspire others.

He may have a legitimate cause, but he is a total douche.

What the NSA did was so vile that even a  douche thought what they're doing is wrong.
 
2013-06-22 02:18:24 PM
Hastings could've pulled a Bud Dwyer on live tv and the same people saying that the car accident was fishy, would be saying the gun to his head was fishy.

America is infected with crazy/stupid. The longer it takes the sane to do something about it, the more difficult it will be to stop.
 
2013-06-22 02:27:01 PM

Mrtraveler01: TV's Vinnie: The tales about him being a douche stink of a government bullsh*t story put into the press (where media dick-lickers like Chris Mathews are more than happy to spread it around).

No...I based that off of the interviews he had with the Guardian and other foreign media.

He may have a legitimate cause, but he is a total douche.


Why does that matter? At ALL? He could be the douchiest douche that ever douched and it wouldn't change what he did as being justified and admirable. I could walk in on him ass farking my passed out drunk mom in my bed while my dog was licking his peanut butter covered balls as he blew his nose onto my mint condition Super Man #1 and it wouldn't change the fact he did a service to humanity in general and Americans in particular.

Likely many of the people you hold in high regard from afar would make you cock-punch level angry if you had to spend time 'getting to know them'.
 
2013-06-22 02:28:15 PM

TV's Vinnie: What the NSA is doing is wrong and totally threatens Democracy itself. Governments that spy on their own citizens are looking for any excuse to punish those citizens.


The Alien and Sedition Acts. Revocation of Habeas Corpus. The Palmer Raids. J. Edgar Farking Hoover. Watergate.

But, hey, now you have your own Greatest Threat To Democracy Evar(tm) to get all keyboard patriot on. Here's your gold star.
 
2013-06-22 02:28:33 PM

Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.


does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?
 
2013-06-22 02:31:24 PM

IronTom: does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?


You totally impressed all the other sixth-graders at recess with that one.
 
2013-06-22 02:32:46 PM

Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.


and that was three, btw.  Does your koolaid also reduce your arithmetic capability so that you can't count the trillions of dollars being lost; does the increase the foodstamp participation look like a decrease to you?
 
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2013-06-22 02:32:58 PM

shower_in_my_socks: The bottom line is, there are a lot safer and more logical ways to bump some body off than to try to orchestrate a car crash on a heavily populated street in Los Angeles.


Since when are corrupt government agencies safe & logic? There were a lot safer and more logical ways to handle Chris Dorner, too.
 
2013-06-22 02:34:57 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: IronTom: does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

You totally impressed all the other sixth-graders at recess with that one.


sixth graders would have better grasp of current events, but I can't imagine what they are being taught nowadays.
 
2013-06-22 02:37:53 PM
fwiw, I think the car crash was an unfortunate coincidence
 
2013-06-22 02:39:55 PM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Why does that matter? At ALL? He could be the douchiest douche that ever douched and it wouldn't change what he did as being justified and admirable.


He told you what you wanted to hear, all the while soaking up his 15 minutes and freely telling the People's Republic of China everything he knew.

Did he do us a service by releasing the PRISM graphic? I'd like to think so. That doesn't magically erase everything else he did.
 
2013-06-22 02:40:54 PM

IronTom: sixth graders would have better grasp of current events, but I can't imagine what they are being taught nowadays


The other sixth graders thought that was a sick burn too. You totally rule the recess yard.
 
2013-06-22 02:48:06 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: TV's Vinnie: What the NSA is doing is wrong and totally threatens Democracy itself. Governments that spy on their own citizens are looking for any excuse to punish those citizens.

The Alien and Sedition Acts. Revocation of Habeas Corpus. The Palmer Raids. J. Edgar Farking Hoover. Watergate.

But, hey, now you have your own Greatest Threat To Democracy Evar(tm) to get all keyboard patriot on. Here's your gold star.


Even Hoover did want to have a list of everyone who has ever fapped.
 
2013-06-22 02:49:07 PM

IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?


What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?
 
2013-06-22 02:50:24 PM

IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

and that was three, btw.  Does your koolaid also reduce your arithmetic capability so that you can't count the trillions of dollars being lost; does the increase the foodstamp participation look like a decrease to you?


The IRS one is a legitimate concern (although it's not for the reasons people on the right seem to think it is), and the Verizon thing is basically the NSA thing which is really the most serious scandal on your list.
 
2013-06-22 03:01:03 PM

killershark: All of this just reminds me of Breitbart's death. He was about to expose Obama and tell the truth!!!!!! Except he had a heart attack and the "truth" he was about to tell turned out to be a non-story. Same thing here. Maybe someone who has followed this more can give me an answer but what was he doing speeding in Beverly Hills at 4am? My bet is drugs or alcohol are involved. If the FBI really wanted to off the guy, they would've been much more subtle about it.


He wasn't in Beverly Hills, he was in Hancock Park. BH is a couple of miles west.

The crash site is thisclose to Hollywood proper. That part of town never sleeps.
 
2013-06-22 03:24:15 PM

Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?


Well there's the blaming it on  some video, thing.
 
2013-06-22 03:24:53 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Why does that matter? At ALL? He could be the douchiest douche that ever douched and it wouldn't change what he did as being justified and admirable.

He told you what you wanted to hear, all the while soaking up his 15 minutes and freely telling the People's Republic of China everything he knew.

Did he do us a service by releasing the PRISM graphic? I'd like to think so. That doesn't magically erase everything else he did.


Everything you said above is raw  pejorative idle speculation and conjecture, except for the fact he released info. You don't like the guy based on a couple interviews and speculation and gut feeling (apparently based mainly on his choice of glasses, haircut, facial hair stylings and tone of voice)? Fine. It matters not even in the least. I'm pretty sure he didn't ask you or anyone else to like him or be his besty. It's not about him except in the abstract of using him as a nominal icon for possible punishment, either legal or, in your case,cultural, for not just not shutting up being a good little slave. Nothing needs to be forgiven. Nothing needs to be erased. Except the farking disgusting gov't programs he (re)-brought to light.
 
2013-06-22 03:27:51 PM

IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?

Well there's the blaming it on  some video, thing.


Know how I know you have no farking idea whatsoever in the slightest about what constitutes a "scandal"?
 
2013-06-22 03:43:15 PM

IronTom: Well there's the blaming it on some video, thing.


Seriously? You're this out-of-date on the whole Benghazi thing? I mean, at this point you might as well be attacking Obama for failing to release his birth certificate.
 
2013-06-22 03:44:45 PM

Biological Ali: IronTom: Well there's the blaming it on some video, thing.

Seriously? You're this out-of-date on the whole Benghazi thing? I mean, at this point you might as well be attacking Obama for failing to release his birth certificate.


must be progressive
 
2013-06-22 04:45:23 PM
Mike Connell, the DC madam, this, the lesson seems to be  write it down! If you have some mad reason to not spill everything as quickly as possible, make sure you have enough Dox that the cover-up will be impossible to cover up.
 
2013-06-22 04:47:03 PM
As if the beginning of this year was not a firm indication of the way things are looking, there will be a lot of people eating crow very soon.


You don't have to 'believe' anything. Just look at the data.
 
2013-06-22 05:52:35 PM

Proximuscentauri: As if the beginning of this year was not a firm indication of the way things are looking, there will be a lot of people eating crow very soon.


You don't have to 'believe' anything. Just look at the data study it out.

 
2013-06-22 06:32:59 PM
It's adorable that some people think Obama pulls the strings of the nation's intelligence services (that generally see the sitting President as nothing more than a temporary seat warmer), or that this is even a remotely partisan issue.
 
2013-06-22 07:08:29 PM

TV's Vinnie: thamike: TV's Vinnie: Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.

You love the NSA's whip.

Eyes are rolling, gentlemen.

You know, it's pretty farking sad that here we have a case of the government committing a crime against the entire human race, and yet conformist chickensh*ts like you find nothing wrong about it.


And I am so relieved that there are brave, intrepid folks such as yourself to piss and moan and panic for the rest of us conformist chickenshiats.
 
2013-06-22 07:09:38 PM

Proximuscentauri: As if the beginning of this year was not a firm indication of the way things are looking


Better?
 
2013-06-22 08:53:23 PM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?

Well there's the blaming it on  some video, thing.

Know how I know you have no farking idea whatsoever in the slightest about what constitutes a "scandal"?


You don't have a clue about what's going on.
 
2013-06-22 09:15:52 PM

thamike: TV's Vinnie: thamike: TV's Vinnie: Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.

You love the NSA's whip.

Eyes are rolling, gentlemen.

You know, it's pretty farking sad that here we have a case of the government committing a crime against the entire human race, and yet conformist chickensh*ts like you find nothing wrong about it.

And I am so relieved that there are brave, intrepid folks such as yourself to piss and moan and panic for the rest of us conformist chickenshiats.


And this is why we have the kind of government we have.
 
2013-06-22 09:27:49 PM
Considering the abundance of support for government authority such as the NSA, CIA, FBI and Americans notorious ignorance and apathy, it wouldnt be hard at all for an agency to assassinate someone without consequence.
 
2013-06-22 09:46:52 PM
The paranoia in this thread is frightening. You all need some help.
 
2013-06-22 10:11:12 PM

badhatharry: Serious Post on Serious Thread: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?

Well there's the blaming it on  some video, thing.

Know how I know you have no farking idea whatsoever in the slightest about what constitutes a "scandal"?

You don't have a clue about what's going on.


And you do superspy? I do know erroneously blaming a video for inciting an attack, even if it was willful and intentional deceit, is NOT a scandal. MAYBE the motive behind it COULD be scandalous in some way, but just farking being confused or even lying in that scenario isn't. But since you're so clued in, why don't you share the nefarious motive with the rest of the class?
 
2013-06-22 10:40:11 PM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: badhatharry: Serious Post on Serious Thread: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: MmmmBacon: riled up with conspiracy tales

heh, like about the IRS, Benghazi, Verizon, etc.

Still clinging onto that one I see.

does your koolaid include a hypnotic, and forgetful-juice?

What did I forget about the non-scandal that was Benghazi?

Well there's the blaming it on  some video, thing.

Know how I know you have no farking idea whatsoever in the slightest about what constitutes a "scandal"?

You don't have a clue about what's going on.

And you do superspy? I do know erroneously blaming a video for inciting an attack, even if it was willful and intentional deceit, is NOT a scandal. MAYBE the motive behind it COULD be scandalous in some way, but just farking being confused or even lying in that scenario isn't. But since you're so clued in, why don't you share the nefarious motive with the rest of the class?


I take it back. You do seem to have a clue. Study it out.
 
2013-06-22 10:49:01 PM

tudorgurl: The paranoia in this thread is frightening. You all need some help.


Or maybe that's just what you want us to think!

/Not a conspiracy theorist.
//Do have various theories about pirates however.
///A piracy theorist if you will.
 
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