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(LA Times)   Journalist Michael Hastings wrote that he was working on a "big story" and was going "off the radar for a bit" hours before he totally accidentally crashed his car into a tree at 100 miles an hour   (latimes.com) divider line 172
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2013-06-22 01:51:15 AM
Ha! Ha! (nelson.jpg)
 
2013-06-22 01:52:37 AM
Yeah, I doubt that

But if you want a real conspiracy theory, google Danny Casolaro
 
2013-06-22 02:00:38 AM
 
2013-06-22 02:05:28 AM
 
2013-06-22 02:54:46 AM

At some point, a threshold is passed, and, as Jon Stewart put it, the burden of proof shifts.  No matter what batshiat conspiracy theory anyone comes up with, now the government has to treat it as a serious claim.  So, a death that appears to be a strange coincidence needs to be investigated thoroughly.


Jon Stewart's rant.

 
2013-06-22 03:42:27 AM

GeneralJim: At some point, a threshold is passed, and, as Jon Stewart put it, the burden of proof shifts.  No matter what batshiat conspiracy theory anyone comes up with, now the government has to treat it as a serious claim.  So, a death that appears to be a strange coincidence needs to be investigated thoroughly.
Jon Stewart's rant.


But who would trust the Government to investigate this death? Even if they find iron-clad evidence that it was just an accident (the reporter was drunk, there was a mechanical failure, etc), those who already think it was an assassination will only scream "COVER-UP!". And should there be proof found that the Government was involved, would it ever be exposed?

The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
 
2013-06-22 03:46:30 AM
GeneralJim:

The Daily Show has only gone further into the tin foil from there:
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But really, what sort of investigation do you want? Since when can the LAPD investigate the intelligence community? Can the PhDs at NSA/CIA/whatever hack the telemetrics of a brand new Mercedes? Without a doubt. Can anybody ever prove it was done? Good luck.
The toxicology's not back. There's barely been enough time to give the car a good going over. There's definitely not been enough time to research what this guy was investigating, but the LAPD was out on Thursday yelling "no foul play." I don't blame them at all, because it's pretty obvious from the situation that if it was a case of foul play, you're probably talking about people with access to real-time satellite data and no cop wants to be the guy to step forward and claim the world ever works that way.
 
2013-06-22 03:50:25 AM

MmmmBacon:

The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.

Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?
 
2013-06-22 04:03:41 AM
Yeah, I suspected we'd hear something like this, regardless of accuracy.

No way to prove it, unless car tampering is discovered, and proved.
 
2013-06-22 04:05:16 AM
Was he meeting up with Vincent Foster?  Odd how these things happen...
 
2013-06-22 04:07:09 AM
It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.
 
2013-06-22 04:11:49 AM

GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?


How do YOU see Vince Foster's death?
 
2013-06-22 04:11:50 AM

GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?


He killed himself, if memory serves, but that's not the point, is it? The GOP will use the death of this reporter to try to smear Obama, and Democrats in general, in 2014, 2016 and beyond. Why? Because it worked against the Clinton's to some degree years ago. The GOP is good at getting their base riled up with conspiracy tales, and this will be one they use, you can count on that.
 
2013-06-22 04:12:57 AM

cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.


Just stating the facts.
 
2013-06-22 04:13:17 AM

cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.


Oh noes!  Partisan politics in a politics thread!  To the fainting couches!
 
2013-06-22 04:16:46 AM

Hastor: Oh noes!  Partisan politics in a politics thread!  To the fainting couches!


Why is this in the politics tab anyway? Geek tab would be better. Or Entertainment, maybe.
 
2013-06-22 04:19:06 AM

Triumph: Hastor: Oh noes!  Partisan politics in a politics thread!  To the fainting couches!

Why is this in the politics tab anyway? Geek tab would be better. Or Entertainment, maybe.


It touches quite heavily on governance, so the politics seems fitting enough for me.  At least the story they're trying to weave does; the actual crash not so much.
 
2013-06-22 04:22:24 AM

Hastor: cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.

Oh noes!  Partisan politics in a politics thread!  To the fainting couches!


One would think that the discussion of a car accident would be immune to partisan bullshiat
 
2013-06-22 04:23:10 AM
Hmm. These politics posts are all partisan. Don't you have any neutral ones? "May the better man win?" "Let's have a good,clean election?" That sort of thing?
 
2013-06-22 04:29:19 AM
Oh come on..... if the FBI wanted this reporter dead they wouldn't sabotage his car.... they'd simply meet him at his apartment late at night for questioning and then shoot him in the head while he was unarmed.
 
2013-06-22 04:32:39 AM

GeneralJim: No matter what batshiat conspiracy theory anyone comes up with, now the government has to treat it as a serious claim.


no they don't.
 
2013-06-22 04:34:59 AM

Arthur Jumbles: Oh come on..... if the FBI wanted this reporter dead they wouldn't sabotage his car


It's definitely not how the FBI would do it. And I think the CIA would only do it that way, if it was trying to pin it on the NSA. Some people think those two are in a spat right now.
 
2013-06-22 04:40:37 AM

Arthur Jumbles: Oh come on..... if the FBI wanted this reporter dead they wouldn't sabotage his car.... they'd simply meet him at his apartment late at night for questioning and then shoot him in the head while he was unarmed.


yeah! you can't trust those cops or FBI at all!

"a law enforcement official told the Post that...."

Oh....So I guess you don't trust the cops UNLESS anunnamed one says something bad about the FBI. then, logically, you don't trust the FBI unless an unnamed FBI agent says something bad about the NSA. So basically, don't trust anyofficial government types ever...Unless they say something to want to hear.
 
2013-06-22 04:55:25 AM
Hmmm...I suspect that Staff Sgt Biggs might accidentally, brutally, stab himself in the stomach whilst shaving.
 
2013-06-22 04:55:26 AM

MmmmBacon: GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?

He killed himself, if memory serves, but that's not the point, is it? The GOP will use the death of this reporter to try to smear Obama, and Democrats in general, in 2014, 2016 and beyond. Why? Because it worked against the Clinton's to some degree years ago. The GOP is good at getting their base riled up with conspiracy tales, and this will be one they use, you can count on that.


L O L
 
2013-06-22 05:03:29 AM

MmmmBacon: GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?

He killed himself, if memory serves, but that's not the point, is it? The GOP will use the death of this reporter to try to smear Obama, and Democrats in general, in 2014, 2016 and beyond. Why? Because it worked against the Clinton's to some degree years ago. The GOP is good at getting their base riled up with conspiracy tales, and this will be one they use, you can count on that.


In fact, it worked so well last time that one could almost think the GOP arranged.... ohmigawd.
 
2013-06-22 05:03:38 AM

GeneralJim: At some point, a threshold is passed, and, as Jon Stewart put it, the burden of proof shifts.  No matter what batshiat conspiracy theory anyone comes up with, now the government has to treat it as a serious claim.  So, a death that appears to be a strange coincidence needs to be investigated thoroughly.
Jon Stewart's rant.


But remember, kids. Jon Stewart is a partisan hack who never, ever, EVER criticizes the Obama administration and only makes fun of Conservatives.

Not making an accusation at you here, Jim, just using the deserved criticism in a point, debunking an oft-repeated tidbit of ultra-idiocy parroted by certain "Libertarians."
 
2013-06-22 05:11:02 AM
I dunno, how do we know he wasn't just nuts?

I have a side that really wants to play along with conspiracy theories, but sometimes coincidence is just that. And sometimes people can become so paranoid their irrational fears become their own undoing.

For all we know, he worked himself up and wrecked trying to lose a car that wasn't' even tailing him. Only people that knew him intimately would be able to even guess at what might have happened.

Have any of his colleagues or family/friends verified they were being questioned by suits?

MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.


I don't know about all that. The GOP wasn't a big fan of this guy to begin with.

I'm real hesitant when people start accusing the FBI. Sure, I'm sure they have their clutter and rot. But 99% of that organization is our best last defense against illegal government actions and for good reason.

Think of it this way: If there were even a whiff of a rogue element in the FBI, they'd be devoured from within. Agents and ladder climbing bureaucrats would be itching to make their careers nailing them to the wall.
They may be a part of the intelligence community, but they are a far far cry from the CIA or NSA.

/he was pissing off all the right people to get himself "suicided"
//I'll entertain a lot of bs, but you'd have to show me some significant evidence before I consider believing the FBI is offing people
 
2013-06-22 05:13:41 AM

MurphyMurphy: I don't know about all that. The GOP wasn't a big fan of this guy to begin with.


They don't need to be fans of the guy. all they need to do is "I'm just asking questions"
 
2013-06-22 05:17:01 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: MmmmBacon: GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?

He killed himself, if memory serves, but that's not the point, is it? The GOP will use the death of this reporter to try to smear Obama, and Democrats in general, in 2014, 2016 and beyond. Why? Because it worked against the Clinton's to some degree years ago. The GOP is good at getting their base riled up with conspiracy tales, and this will be one they use, you can count on that.

L O L


I have no idea why someone would laugh at that.
 
2013-06-22 05:24:51 AM
I can more easily believe he could have been killed for something he was GOING TO REPORT ON than he was killed for something he ALREADY REPORTED ABOUT. Nobody gets stealth murdered by covert government operatives for something they let out of the bag five years ago, no matter how embarrassing it might have been to anyone at the time.

That said, even the FBI doesn't stealth murder an obnoxious reporter by burning his car to the ground in a huge fire in the middle of Beverly Hills. That's more of a gang or drug killing, assuming it wasn't just a regular horrifying high-speed car crash.
 
2013-06-22 05:27:13 AM
And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.
 
2013-06-22 05:33:48 AM

cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.


Five.  It was post five.  You are a liar, and an admitted drug abuser who should off himself in shame.
 
2013-06-22 05:35:20 AM
Was his bi story about how unsafe his car was when it was around trees while going 100mph?   Because if it was, he nailed it.  "The airbags.  They do nothing."

/He probably was thinking the cops onlyhad 2 digit radars and if he went to 100, he'd go off it.  .  Maybe he was just speeding, saw a cop and thought the tree would slow him down a bit.

//More likely he was a epressed liberal worried about social injustice he couldn't fix and how his liberal g/f got blowed up bringing social justice to Iraq and became a depressed, liberal alcoholic.  Like Ted Kennedy but without the women.
 
2013-06-22 05:35:44 AM
 
2013-06-22 05:36:21 AM

Gyrfalcon: I can more easily believe he could have been killed for something he was GOING TO REPORT ON than he was killed for something he ALREADY REPORTED ABOUT. Nobody gets stealth murdered by covert government operatives for something they let out of the bag five years ago, no matter how embarrassing it might have been to anyone at the time.

That said, even the FBI doesn't stealth murder an obnoxious reporter by burning his car to the ground in a huge fire in the middle of Beverly Hills. That's more of a gang or drug killing, assuming it wasn't just a regular horrifying high-speed car crash.


Good farking god this.  Stop being  you usual level of stupid, Fark.
 
2013-06-22 05:41:15 AM

BSABSVR: cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.

Five.  It was post five.  You are a liar, and an admitted drug abuser who should off himself in shame.


I am sober right now unfortunately. My weed guy didnt come through and I am a bit depressed right now.

And, I was told there would be no math
 
2013-06-22 06:07:47 AM
Sounds like Karen SIlkwood.

/Yeah, I went there.
 
2013-06-22 06:11:42 AM

Hastor: cman: It took you assholes long enough to insert partisan politics in this thread.

Six replies before political bashing. SIX REPLIES.

You guys are slippin.

Oh noes!  Partisan politics in a politics thread!  To the fainting couches!


Excusing partisan politics in a politics thread is like excusing shiatting your pants because you ate mexican food.  you know there's always that chance but there are always more preferable options.
 
2013-06-22 06:27:31 AM

TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.


I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.
 
2013-06-22 06:30:11 AM

tbeatty: Was his bi story about how unsafe his car was when it was around trees while going 100mph?   Because if it was, he nailed it.  "The airbags.  They do nothing."

/He probably was thinking the cops onlyhad 2 digit radars and if he went to 100, he'd go off it.  .  Maybe he was just speeding, saw a cop and thought the tree would slow him down a bit.

//More likely he was a epressed liberal worried about social injustice he couldn't fix and how his liberal g/f got blowed up bringing social justice to Iraq and became a depressed, liberal alcoholic.  Like Ted Kennedy but without the women.


see, this is why you're supposed to warm up and stretch first. this poor bastard pulled a troll muscle mid-sentence.

/ice it down
//tmyk
 
2013-06-22 06:34:07 AM
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PETROLEUM!
 
2013-06-22 06:34:53 AM
Now that people today seem actually willing to entertain that the Gov't has bad people in it who might kill people if the stakes are high enough (or if they can simply get away with it), I wonder what the public reaction is going to be in November on the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy killing.
 
2013-06-22 06:36:56 AM

tbeatty: More likely he was a epressed liberal

 
2013-06-22 06:37:23 AM

GeneralJim: At some point, a threshold is passed, and, as Jon Stewart put it, the burden of proof shifts.  No matter what batshiat conspiracy theory anyone comes up with, now the government has to treat it as a serious claim.  So, a death that appears to be a strange coincidence needs to be investigated thoroughly.
Jon Stewart's rant.


waaaaiiit a second. did the mayor of urantia just caution us against buying into crazy bullshiat?

/my jimmies, they're a bit rustled
 
2013-06-22 06:38:20 AM

Dammit.

thamike:
tbeatty: More likely he was a epressed liberal


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2013-06-22 06:39:38 AM

heinrich66: Now that people today seem actually willing to entertain that the Gov't has bad people in it who might kill people if the stakes are high enough (or if they can simply get away with it), I wonder what the public reaction is going to be in November on the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy killing.


What a wasted afternoon.
 
2013-06-22 06:40:38 AM

thamike: tbeatty: More likely he was a epressed liberal


it's a type of coffee that only liberals drink. I was once offered a small cup of it; i woke up 2 days later, unable to locate my wallet or gun...

/also, my ass hurt
//LIIIBS!
 
2013-06-22 06:42:10 AM

Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: And people wonder why Snowden didn't stay in the country and fight the power.

I didn't wonder. Snowden is a coward with delusions of grandeur.


You love the NSA's whip.
 
2013-06-22 06:44:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: MmmmBacon: GeneralJim: MmmmBacon: The GOP will seize onto this death and turn it into Obama's "Vince Foster" moment. Whether it is true or not.
Just for my own curiosity about how to interpret your post, how do you see Vince Foster's death?

He killed himself, if memory serves, but that's not the point, is it? The GOP will use the death of this reporter to try to smear Obama, and Democrats in general, in 2014, 2016 and beyond. Why? Because it worked against the Clinton's to some degree years ago. The GOP is good at getting their base riled up with conspiracy tales, and this will be one they use, you can count on that.

L O L


He did kill himself.
 
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