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(The Sun)   "Michael Jackson went 60 days with no sleep" and OMG GIANT BATS ON HIS HEAD   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 59
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2013-06-22 12:19:08 AM
Don't worry, he's sleeping fine now.
 
2013-06-22 12:23:29 AM
The Sun, always ready to poke at the dead with a stick.
 
2013-06-22 12:37:55 AM
Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

csb:
I've had a few bouts of insomnia. Can't sleep more than an hour or two if you can fall asleep at all type of thing.After 3 or 4 days nature takes over and I eventually pass out for half a day. If it went on long enough? I'm pretty sure around day 8 or 9 I'd be considering blowing my brains out.

It's a farking miserable condition to be in. An hour can pass by as if it's a minute, and minutes can seem to take hours. You lose your slip on reality, your body stops being able to function.

If you can, avoid EVER taking any sleep aid. Whether the drug was designed for that purpose or not, no matter how important what you have to do in the morning might be.

They might put you to sleep today, but down the road you're risking farking yourself up pretty good.

There's a delicate balance that needs to be satisfied in your brain and body for good sleep to happen, and once you break it it's hell to fix yourself again.
 
2013-06-22 12:41:58 AM
Theres your problem
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2013-06-22 12:43:00 AM

MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

csb:
I've had a few bouts of insomnia. Can't sleep more than an hour or two if you can fall asleep at all type of thing.After 3 or 4 days nature takes over and I eventually pass out for half a day. If it went on long enough? I'm pretty sure around day 8 or 9 I'd be considering blowing my brains out.

It's a farking miserable condition to be in. An hour can pass by as if it's a minute, and minutes can seem to take hours. You lose your slip on reality, your body stops being able to function.

If you can, avoid EVER taking any sleep aid. Whether the drug was designed for that purpose or not, no matter how important what you have to do in the morning might be.

They might put you to sleep today, but down the road you're risking farking yourself up pretty good.

There's a delicate balance that needs to be satisfied in your brain and body for good sleep to happen, and once you break it it's hell to fix yourself again.


This message brought to you by the National Sleep Council and the letter Zzz...
 
2013-06-22 01:24:52 AM
That's what you get for touching kids.
 
2013-06-22 02:25:43 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: Don't worry, he's sleeping fine now.


Wow, that is horribly mean and you have no soul.
 
2013-06-22 02:33:11 AM
Propafol is wonderful. I had it for endoscopies because I kept waking up in the middle of the procedure. It's a milky white fluid that burns inside your veins for about 4 seconds and then zzzzzzzzzz...

Then you wake up with no groggy or hangover feeling. I highly recommend it if it's ever offered to you.
 
2013-06-22 07:58:38 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Propafol is wonderful. I had it for endoscopies because I kept waking up in the middle of the procedure. It's a milky white fluid that burns inside your veins for about 4 seconds and then zzzzzzzzzz...

Then you wake up with no groggy or hangover feeling. I highly recommend it if it's ever offered to you.


Coincidentally, Michael Jackson loved injecting children with milky white fluid that burned inside them.
 
2013-06-22 08:09:21 AM
Those little boys kept him UP all night.
 
2013-06-22 08:10:03 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: Don't worry, he's sleeping fine now.


LMAO
 
2013-06-22 08:21:58 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Propafol is wonderful. I had it for endoscopies because I kept waking up in the middle of the procedure. It's a milky white fluid that burns inside your veins for about 4 seconds and then zzzzzzzzzz...

Then you wake up with no groggy or hangover feeling. I highly recommend it if it's ever offered to you.


I thought my endoscopy went just fine without any such anesthetic. The nurse held my hand and I let her touch my anus.

It was kind of a beautiful thing.
 
2013-06-22 08:24:22 AM

skatedrifter: DarkSoulNoHope: Don't worry, he's sleeping fine now.

Wow, that is horribly mean and you have no soul.


What's a soul? Where are they? What are they made of?
 
2013-06-22 08:24:23 AM
more liek propaFAIL am i right
 
2013-06-22 08:27:03 AM

MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.


I beg to differ, child molesters shouldn't get any sleep.
 
2013-06-22 08:27:26 AM
We can't sleep here, this is bat country!
 
2013-06-22 08:59:26 AM
What, Ambien didn't help?

The few times I've tried that stuff, it knocked me the hell out pretty damn quick.
 
2013-06-22 09:07:18 AM
Article is misleading. He went 60 days without REM sleep.
 
2013-06-22 09:07:24 AM
MurphyMurphy:
If you can, avoid EVER taking any sleep aid. Whether the drug was designed for that purpose or not, no matter how important what you have to do in the morning might be.

Nonsense.  What could possibly go wrong?
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-22 09:12:44 AM
FTFA: The Jackson family are suing concert giants AEG - who employed Murray - for £26billion.

That's a lot of Jesus Juice.
 
2013-06-22 09:18:35 AM

Medic Zero: MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

I beg to differ, child molesters shouldn't get any sleep.


Why? It's one of the few times they aren't molesting.
 
2013-06-22 10:19:07 AM

Fano: Medic Zero: MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

I beg to differ, child molesters shouldn't get any sleep.

Why? It's one of the few times they aren't molesting.


Nice.
 
2013-06-22 10:56:47 AM
poor guy, made so many people happy with his music, set a generation. He deserved better.
 
2013-06-22 11:01:32 AM

MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

csb:
I've had a few bouts of insomnia. Can't sleep more than an hour or two if you can fall asleep at all type of thing.After 3 or 4 days nature takes over and I eventually pass out for half a day. If it went on long enough? I'm pretty sure around day 8 or 9 I'd be considering blowing my brains out.

It's a farking miserable condition to be in. An hour can pass by as if it's a minute, and minutes can seem to take hours. You lose your slip on reality, your body stops being able to function.

If you can, avoid EVER taking any sleep aid. Whether the drug was designed for that purpose or not, no matter how important what you have to do in the morning might be.

They might put you to sleep today, but down the road you're risking farking yourself up pretty good.

There's a delicate balance that needs to be satisfied in your brain and body for good sleep to happen, and once you break it it's hell to fix yourself again.


That's pretty much the outer limit of human sleep, and you're probably sleeping a LOT more than you think. There have been a ton of studies done, and the absolute record for not sleeping at all is something like 5.5 days, after which the guy was hallucinating and on the verge of death.
 
2013-06-22 11:04:25 AM

Nowhereman: Article is misleading. He went 60 days without REM sleep.


Which is still a pretty awful thing to go through, but not quite the same.  Then again, he kind of brought it upon himself if he insisted on getting propofol nightly.
 
2013-06-22 11:05:00 AM
BS
 
2013-06-22 11:19:13 AM
Anybody else find it disturbing that the record company, not Jackson himself, employed the doctor?
 
2013-06-22 11:41:07 AM
I went four days without sleep once. By day 4 even if I tried to sleep I couldn't because my legs would jerk and when I closed my eyes I would see bugs and farked up shiat. Never doing that again.
 
2013-06-22 11:42:48 AM

the biggest redneck here: That's pretty much the outer limit of human sleep, and you're probably sleeping a LOT more than you think. There have been a ton of studies done, and the absolute record for not sleeping at all is something like 5.5 days, after which the guy was hallucinating and on the verge of death.


Most people who think they have total insomnia actually have a sleep perception disorder. If you ask people who live with them they'll say they actually sleep all the time.
 
2013-06-22 11:43:39 AM

A Terrible Human: I went four days without sleep once. By day 4 even if I tried to sleep I couldn't because my legs would jerk and when I closed my eyes I would see bugs and farked up shiat. Never doing that again.


Did you see the shadow ghosts? On day 3, I would see them everywhere.
 
2013-06-22 11:46:56 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Did you see the shadow ghosts? On day 3, I would see them everywhere.


I'd see stuff out of the corner of my eyes and such. Too quick to take an actual look. When everything was dark it got interesting,everything looked like I was tripping but I was sober the entire 4 days.
 
2013-06-22 11:51:54 AM

Yes please: the biggest redneck here: That's pretty much the outer limit of human sleep, and you're probably sleeping a LOT more than you think. There have been a ton of studies done, and the absolute record for not sleeping at all is something like 5.5 days, after which the guy was hallucinating and on the verge of death.

Most people who think they have total insomnia actually have a sleep perception disorder. If you ask people who live with them they'll say they actually sleep all the time.


I hate it when people get up to the internet to post about their insomnia when they could still be trying to sleep.

Getting up and logging onto Facebook/turning on your favorite television show/doing ANYTHING other than lying down in bed is going to prevent the delicious, delicious sleep hormones from doing their thing.
 
2013-06-22 12:11:07 PM
Demerol? Demerol, oh God he's taking Demerol...
 
2013-06-22 12:22:23 PM
go ahead, believe everything you read

Michael Jackson went 60 days without sleep

no, really
 
2013-06-22 12:28:43 PM
Just goes to show you that mentally-ill rich people frequently don't get proper treatment because they can afford toadies and paid ass-kissers to enable them. If Jackson had lived, he'd probably have attained Howard Hughes levels of derangement.
 
2013-06-22 12:58:00 PM

A Terrible Human: I went four days without sleep once. By day 4 even if I tried to sleep I couldn't because my legs would jerk and when I closed my eyes I would see bugs and farked up shiat. Never doing that again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk  I get these if I take too long between sleeps. At least, I think this is what it is. It feels like touching an electric fence; my jam slams closed and I feel a massive "thump" through my entire body. So of course that just makes it harder to sleep, because every time I start to drift off I get these random jolts that make me feel like an invisible Liam Neeson has it in for me. My record is two and half days, the last half of which were really unpleasant.
 
2013-06-22 01:19:56 PM
As a "proud" (haggard) member of the sleep-deprived let me speculate when the
article claims "no sleep for ....days" what it means is quality, normal and regenerative
sleep.

We've all had sleep that left us worse off - and using a coma-like state as sleep would
likely be worse

There is a ton of research on sleep and health and, IMO, "faking" a "sleep-like" state
via anesthesia is worse for a person physically than the odd "rounded-corners-floating-
seeing-things-out-of-an-eye-corner" state that insomnia can bring
 
2013-06-22 01:22:33 PM
Diarrhea Anne Frank:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk  I get these if I take too long between sleeps. At least, I think this is what it is. It feels like touching an electric fence; my jam slams closed and I feel a massive "thump" through my entire body. So of course that just makes it harder to sleep, because every time I start to drift off I get these random jolts that make me feel like an invisible Liam Neeson has it in for me. My record is two and half days, the last half of which were really unpleasant.

Ever heard of this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome

I have that, and it sounds closer to what you describe than the one you posted.
 
2013-06-22 01:31:13 PM
I saw that X-Files episode.
 
2013-06-22 01:57:22 PM

parasol: As a "proud" (haggard) member of the sleep-deprived let me speculate when the
article claims "no sleep for ....days" what it means is quality, normal and regenerative
sleep.

We've all had sleep that left us worse off - and using a coma-like state as sleep would
likely be worse

There is a ton of research on sleep and health and, IMO, "faking" a "sleep-like" state
via anesthesia is worse for a person physically than the odd "rounded-corners-floating-
seeing-things-out-of-an-eye-corner" state that insomnia can bring


I would think the propofol was just to induce sleep, not necessarily anesthetize him all night.

I still think that whole thing was assisted suicide. The actions of the cardiologist are so far from medical procedures in that case, that my only thought is that he did them on purpose to flub the rescusitation. Maybe the cardiologist will get out of jail in a couple of years and have ten million dollars wairing in his bank account.

Do you know how hard it is to match into a cardiology fellowship? They are the creme de la creme from an already challenging internal medicine residency. I cant see somebody going through all that rigorous training and then failing at basic life support.
 
2013-06-22 02:01:14 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Getting up and logging onto Facebook/turning on your favorite television show/doing ANYTHING other than lying down in bed is going to prevent the delicious, delicious sleep hormones from doing their thing.


In fairness, half of sleep advice reflects your viewpoint, and the other half recommends getting up and doing something until you feel tired again. This may be a "toilet paper over or under" debate..
 
2013-06-22 02:06:50 PM

A Terrible Human: AverageAmericanGuy: Did you see the shadow ghosts? On day 3, I would see them everywhere.
I'd see stuff out of the corner of my eyes and such. Too quick to take an actual look. When everything was dark it got interesting,everything looked like I was tripping but I was sober the entire 4 days.


Stuff like that happens to me even when I try to stay up all night. If I'm on a road trip and just keep driving until I can't drive anymore, I know it's time to pull over when there's rabbits and deer and shadows running all over the road.
 
2013-06-22 02:10:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Yes please: the biggest redneck here: That's pretty much the outer limit of human sleep, and you're probably sleeping a LOT more than you think. There have been a ton of studies done, and the absolute record for not sleeping at all is something like 5.5 days, after which the guy was hallucinating and on the verge of death.

Most people who think they have total insomnia actually have a sleep perception disorder. If you ask people who live with them they'll say they actually sleep all the time.

I hate it when people get up to the internet to post about their insomnia when they could still be trying to sleep.

Getting up and logging onto Facebook/turning on your favorite television show/doing ANYTHING other than lying down in bed is going to prevent the delicious, delicious sleep hormones from doing their thing.


Very true.  Spoke to a few doctors once about my insomnia and they all told me the same thing:  Most "insomniacs" don't sleep because they're doing everything else but sleeping.  They told me to just go the fark to bed and, 90% of the time, it works.  The other 10% I just take some melatonin and I'm sleepy in 20 minutes.
 
2013-06-22 02:17:19 PM
I once didn't sleep for three days. By day three I was hearing random imaginary things and my vision had things looking like they were moving.
 
2013-06-22 02:27:35 PM

mongbiohazard: skatedrifter: DarkSoulNoHope: Don't worry, he's sleeping fine now.

Wow, that is horribly mean and you have no soul.

What's a soul? Where are they? What are they made of?


Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
 
2013-06-22 02:32:02 PM

Nowhereman: Article is misleading. He went 60 days without REM sleep.


Everybody hurts, sometimes.
 
2013-06-22 02:34:25 PM

the biggest redneck here: MurphyMurphy: Creep or not, that's just sad. Nobody deserves that.

csb:
I've had a few bouts of insomnia. Can't sleep more than an hour or two if you can fall asleep at all type of thing.After 3 or 4 days nature takes over and I eventually pass out for half a day. If it went on long enough? I'm pretty sure around day 8 or 9 I'd be considering blowing my brains out.

It's a farking miserable condition to be in. An hour can pass by as if it's a minute, and minutes can seem to take hours. You lose your slip on reality, your body stops being able to function.

If you can, avoid EVER taking any sleep aid. Whether the drug was designed for that purpose or not, no matter how important what you have to do in the morning might be.

They might put you to sleep today, but down the road you're risking farking yourself up pretty good.

There's a delicate balance that needs to be satisfied in your brain and body for good sleep to happen, and once you break it it's hell to fix yourself again.

That's pretty much the outer limit of human sleep, and you're probably sleeping a LOT more than you think. There have been a ton of studies done, and the absolute record for not sleeping at all is something like 5.5 days, after which the guy was hallucinating and on the verge of death.


I remember hearing about this guy even though it was way before my time.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tripp
 
2013-06-22 02:58:21 PM
I think close to 5 days was my record.  To be completely honest I did take an hour nap on the 4th day.  It was the most disturbing feeling I have ever experienced.  Not funny hallucinations like on TV, but seeing things in periphery moving at high speeds, seeing things in my direct field of view moving slowly that should have been static.  The constant nausea (which may have been from the obscene amount of caffeine I was taking to stay awake), the thoughts constantly repeating in my head. Not being sure if I had had full conversations with people that occurred in my head (and conversely not remembering full conversations I had had).

Later as I went to med school and residency, being awake for 2 days at a time every 4th day or so became a regular event for several years.  It's a horrible existence to be in, and the worst thing is trying to sleep after that.  Every time I would get close to falling asleep it would feel as if I wouldn't wake up after that.  Feeling like your mind slipping into sleep is actually life slipping away.  Anypoop, I'm glad that portion of my life is over with (at least for now, god knows what the future will bring).

All reminds me of a creepy pasta.  This russian experiment where they keep people from sleeping.
 
2013-06-22 03:30:33 PM

FarkinHostile: Diarrhea Anne Frank:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk  I get these if I take too long between sleeps. At least, I think this is what it is. It feels like touching an electric fence; my jam slams closed and I feel a massive "thump" through my entire body. So of course that just makes it harder to sleep, because every time I start to drift off I get these random jolts that make me feel like an invisible Liam Neeson has it in for me. My record is two and half days, the last half of which were really unpleasant.

Ever heard of this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome

I have that, and it sounds closer to what you describe than the one you posted.


I have had both those and the leg jerks on occasion. For the exploding head one I'd be lying down, eyes closed trying to sleep and suddenly it would feel like I had some kind of electrical jolt. I'd "see" a flashing light with my eyes closed, my entire body would jerk, and there'd be a kind of ringing sound in my head for a bit afterwards. More often though I get the leg jerk one where I'd be almost drowsing off and my left leg (always my left leg for some reason) would get just kick out and it would bring my out of my almost sleep. It's weird because it almost feels like a sudden extremely strong itch a split second before it happens.
 
2013-06-22 04:32:43 PM
He had nothing on people with this condition:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia
 
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