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2013-06-22 10:05:40 AM  
Hmm. So sites that are still in use are pretty well maintained, and sites that aren't used are in disrepair?

That's pretty interesting. I wouldn't have thought that.
 
2013-06-22 10:11:05 AM  
Atlanta has gotten better since the Olympics. The corrupt mayor is gone which is probably the biggest improvement. We need a better transportation system but the'raid the far suburbs to pay for the inner city' tax plan failed.
 
2013-06-22 10:11:58 AM  
Brazil is just cutting out the middleman
 
2013-06-22 10:12:59 AM  
I can't wait for when the Olympics are in India, all the participants get dysentery, and shiat in the pool.
 
2013-06-22 10:13:59 AM  
They really let this place go to shiat:

oi43.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-22 10:15:26 AM  
Corruption trials?
 
2013-06-22 10:16:40 AM  
If you're Beijing you turn your aquatic center into this

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2013-06-22 10:16:59 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Hmm. So sites that are still in use are pretty well maintained, and sites that aren't used are in disrepair?

That's pretty interesting. I wouldn't have thought that.


Or, sites that are pretty well maintained are still in use, and sites that are in disrepair aren't used.

Or, more likely, those that were well planned were built to be used and maintained after the show was over.
 
2013-06-22 10:17:45 AM  
That's far from the saddest Olympic picture I've seen.

They used scraps and materials from the Olympic stadium in Sarajevo to build coffins during that little "conflict" they had in the 90s.
 
2013-06-22 10:19:26 AM  
Dubai should try to get the olympics
 
2013-06-22 10:20:02 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Hmm. So sites that are still in use are pretty well maintained, and sites that aren't used are in disrepair?

That's pretty interesting. I wouldn't have thought that.


Don't forget to add in correlation between 'well built vs slapped together in a hurry' with 'useful vs decrepit'.  Exhibit A: Moscow
 
2013-06-22 10:20:23 AM  
That Olympic Village turned residential apartment building in Canada was pretty dope looking. I'd live there.
 
2013-06-22 10:21:14 AM  
The fast train between Beijing and Tianjin is still up and running.  Something around 200 mph.
 
2013-06-22 10:22:03 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Brazil is just cutting out the middleman


Hell, if they can't even host the World Cup without causing civil unrest, I can't even imagine what the Olympics are going to look like.
 
2013-06-22 10:22:06 AM  
This is why New York didn't get the Olympics. While it had a real bad terrorist attack happen to it, it still is an extremely wealthy and well off part of the country.
 
2013-06-22 10:22:20 AM  
Should be a requirement that the sites are converted in to something useful  after the event - and not just in a "well, we will probably turn it in to X" but actually having blueprints, buyers and (most important) the money to actually do it.
 
2013-06-22 10:23:10 AM  
205 mph.  I'm not a religious man, but I did the stations of the cross before that farker took off.
 
2013-06-22 10:23:17 AM  
This article is a classic example of Confirmation Bias -

They found what they were looking for.  In well developed cities with good economies things worked out, in other places, not so much.

Some of his examples are ridiculous.

In Mexico City, the roof leaks on one of the venues, by the way that venue is 50+ years old, maybe it hasn't been fully maintained but a leaky roof, really.

In Sarajevo there are active land mines.  Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.

In Athens things are shut down.  Greece's economy is on the verge of total collapse.

In London someone grafitti'd a building, I'm sorry it's 'Street Art' - whoever coined that phrase it an idiot.

I'm not defending the Olympics or the IOC, the IOC is basically the Mafia with a sanction at this point but if you are going to travel all these places and convince me there is a problem you might want to put a little more thought into your thesis.
 
2013-06-22 10:24:09 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I can't even imagine what the Olympics are going to look like.


My bro's girl is from there and she says they're trying  to heavily crack down on bad people and kicking the bums out of the cities down there.
 
2013-06-22 10:24:22 AM  

Carth: If you're Beijing you turn your aquatic center into this

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Good lord.  Is there an inoculation center next door?
 
2013-06-22 10:26:12 AM  
Atlanta still has some remnants

Turner Field reconfigured from the Olympic Stadium

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Centennial Olympic Park
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2013-06-22 10:28:44 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Atlanta has gotten better since the Olympics.


People can complain about aspects of the Atlanta Olympics, but the venue-use plan was awesome.  One of the best things the AOC did.

/Atlanta native; resident for 37 years
 
2013-06-22 10:28:47 AM  

Abox: Carth: If you're Beijing you turn your aquatic center into this

[img.fark.net image 720x481]

[img.fark.net image 720x481]

Good lord.  Is there an inoculation center next door?


From the looks of that, I'd say it IS the inoculation center...and not in the sense that you're thinking.
 
2013-06-22 10:31:03 AM  
Yea, I don't get how this is surprising? The cities that have gotten crappier haven't spent money on keeping their Olympic stuff in tip-tip shape. Other countries still use theirs. I guess the most embarrassing one is the park they named after the guy who died in LA, seems like the least they could do is occasionally paint it and remove the graffiti...
 
2013-06-22 10:33:52 AM  

RickN99: TheGreatGazoo: Atlanta has gotten better since the Olympics.

People can complain about aspects of the Atlanta Olympics, but the venue-use plan was awesome.  One of the best things the AOC did.

/Atlanta native; resident for 37 years

Some of them. They screwed the pooch on the shooting sports venue.

/ still bitter
 
2013-06-22 10:34:52 AM  

llort dam eht: This article is a classic example of Confirmation Bias -

They found what they were looking for.  In well developed cities with good economies things worked out, in other places, not so much.

Some of his examples are ridiculous.

In Mexico City, the roof leaks on one of the venues, by the way that venue is 50+ years old, maybe it hasn't been fully maintained but a leaky roof, really.

In Sarajevo there are active land mines.  Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.

In Athens things are shut down.  Greece's economy is on the verge of total collapse.

In London someone grafitti'd a building, I'm sorry it's 'Street Art' - whoever coined that phrase it an idiot.

I'm not defending the Olympics or the IOC, the IOC is basically the Mafia with a sanction at this point but if you are going to travel all these places and convince me there is a problem you might want to put a little more thought into your thesis.


I was thinking the exact same thing, though in the case of Athens, the facilities were falling apart long before the country did.

But I was not surprised to see that Calgary is not mentioned in either the article or their website.  25 years after the 1988 Winter Games, and every single facility remains maintained an in use, thanks to good planning and a massive legacy fund.  Admittedly, however, pictures of decrepit former venues does make for a better book.
 
2013-06-22 10:35:12 AM  

randomjsa: That's far from the saddest Olympic picture I've seen.

They used scraps and materials from the Olympic stadium in Sarajevo to build coffins during that little "conflict" they had in the 90s.


Which would also explain why the sign is in such a sad state of repair.

Hell, it's amazing the pool from the 1936 Olympics exists at all.   Apparently subby think every single structure involved in the Olympics should be sanctified as some sort of world history site.
 
2013-06-22 10:37:12 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Brazil is just cutting out the middleman

Hell, if they can't even host the World Cup without causing civil unrest, I can't even imagine what the Olympics are going to look like.


It's not really the world cup that's got the Brazilians pissed off; that's just a conveniently high-profile event that the protesters can latch on to as a way of broadcasting their grievances (and with all the evictions, home demolitions, and corruption that has gone alone with "getting ready" for and funding it, also an apt example of why they're pissed). Brazilians are pissed because their elites -the politicians, bankers, capitalist, industrialist ect- loot the country with impunity and expect everybody else to just deal with (or sick the cops on them when they don't just deal with it).

What ignited the current protests, for example, was a hike to public transit prices instituted because paying for anything off the backs of the poor is always easier in the short run (though ask the French nobility how well it works in the long-te- Oh Wait!). When the pols sicked the cops on those relatively peaceful and manageable protests, it brought everyody's grievances to a head and Brazil just exploded, much like what happened over that Park protest in Turkey.
 
2013-06-22 10:37:48 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Mrtraveler01: I can't even imagine what the Olympics are going to look like.

My bro's girl is from there and she says they're trying  to heavily crack down on bad people and kicking the bums out of the cities down there.


So Brazil's government really is just trolling it's constituents huh?

If people were rioting over an increase in bus fare, I can't imagine what they'll do over this.
 
2013-06-22 10:37:54 AM  
I competed at Sarajevo in 84. The atmosphere was fantastic and I loved the city. Have never been back, it would be too depressing.
 
2013-06-22 10:39:28 AM  

llort dam eht: In Sarajevo there are active land mines. Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.


Czechoslovakia broke up into two countries, and Sarajevo isn't located in any of them.
 
2013-06-22 10:40:07 AM  
Resolute

Calgary is a very good example, it's really unfortunate that the saddle dome is under 50 feet of water today :(
 
2013-06-22 10:40:27 AM  

llort dam eht: This article is a classic example of Confirmation Bias -

They found what they were looking for.  In well developed cities with good economies things worked out, in other places, not so much.

Some of his examples are ridiculous.

In Mexico City, the roof leaks on one of the venues, by the way that venue is 50+ years old, maybe it hasn't been fully maintained but a leaky roof, really.

In Sarajevo there are active land mines.  Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.

In Athens things are shut down.  Greece's economy is on the verge of total collapse.

In London someone grafitti'd a building, I'm sorry it's 'Street Art' - whoever coined that phrase it an idiot.

I'm not defending the Olympics or the IOC, the IOC is basically the Mafia with a sanction at this point but if you are going to travel all these places and convince me there is a problem you might want to put a little more thought into your thesis.


Czechoslovakia?  You realize that's like a thousand miles away from Sarajevo and it only split into two countries, right?

Plus you're overlooking Barcelona, which if you visit the city shows how that really might have been the most successful Olympics of all time (before that they had no beach so they trucked in sand from Egypt and that's now a big thing the city's known for, for example).  And I don't think anyone would say Spain is doing so well right now economically.

/ visited Sarajevo a few years back, one of the prettiest towns in Europe
// you still see bullet holes everywhere tho
 
2013-06-22 10:42:36 AM  

randomjsa: That's far from the saddest Olympic picture I've seen.

They used scraps and materials from the Olympic stadium in Sarajevo to build coffins during that little "conflict" they had in the 90s.


I believe they also buried bodies in, or at least just outside the Olympic stadium.

As a result of the high number of casualties and the wartime conditions, there are makeshift cemeteries throughout Sarajevo and its surrounding areas. Parks, athletic fields and other open spaces were utilized as graveyards. One such site is the sports complex built for the 1984 Winter Olympics
 
2013-06-22 10:44:26 AM  

tuckeg: I competed at Sarajevo in 84. The atmosphere was fantastic and I loved the city. Have never been back, it would be too depressing.


Really?  What event?  How'd you do?  Just making it to an Olympics must be amazing.
 
2013-06-22 10:46:43 AM  

lifeboat: tuckeg: I competed at Sarajevo in 84. The atmosphere was fantastic and I loved the city. Have never been back, it would be too depressing.

Really?  What event?  How'd you do?  Just making it to an Olympics must be amazing.


That is really neat.  I'm curious as well.
 
2013-06-22 10:46:49 AM  

lifeboat: tuckeg: I competed at Sarajevo in 84. The atmosphere was fantastic and I loved the city. Have never been back, it would be too depressing.

Really?  What event?  How'd you do?  Just making it to an Olympics must be amazing.


i wasn't aware whacking it was even in the olympics
 
2013-06-22 10:46:50 AM  

leevis: llort dam eht: In Sarajevo there are active land mines. Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.

Czechoslovakia broke up into two countries, and Sarajevo isn't located in any of them.


Sorry - Yugoslavia - wrong war
 
2013-06-22 10:48:29 AM  
This guy moves in.

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2013-06-22 10:49:34 AM  
Munich....where is Munich in all of this?  To my knowledge, everything is still being used in full today. Olympic village is now apartments, ice hockey, swimming, stadium, and the arenas are used near daily.
I think the article was trying to paint the gloom and let-down of structures past, but they did include some noteworthy places as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiahalle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_(Munich)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiapark,_Munich
 
2013-06-22 10:49:57 AM  
That article was bullshiat.  Yes, some cities have let their venues fall into disrepair.  Others haven't.

Take my current city, Atlanta.  As much as I make fun of the place and biatch about the people who live here, most of the Olympic venues are well maintained and well used.

Olympic Stadium today (Turner Field):

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Aquatic Center:

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Centennial Olympic Park:

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World Athletes Monument:

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The Flair:

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Even the hideous Olympic Cauldron is reasonably well maintained:

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2013-06-22 10:50:30 AM  

Pugdaddyk: Munich....where is Munich in all of this?  To my knowledge, everything is still being used in full today. Olympic village is now apartments, ice hockey, swimming, stadium, and the arenas are used near daily.
I think the article was trying to paint the gloom and let-down of structures past, but they did include some noteworthy places as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiahalle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_(Munich)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiapark,_Munich


We don't like to talk about Munich. You know. Because of what happened.
 
2013-06-22 10:51:34 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Britney Spear's Speculum: Mrtraveler01: I can't even imagine what the Olympics are going to look like.

My bro's girl is from there and she says they're trying  to heavily crack down on bad people and kicking the bums out of the cities down there.

So Brazil's government really is just trolling it's constituents huh?

If people were rioting over an increase in bus fare, I can't imagine what they'll do over this.


The bus fare thing sparked it, but really it's the thousand other not-so-little indignities the Brazilian upper class forces everyone else to endure, the ridiculous luxury they live in compared to everyone else, the huge differences in government services between wealthy and non-wealthy areas of the cities and State, and especially the "baton first, ask questions later" attitude that those in power take to protests.
 
2013-06-22 10:52:31 AM  
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/not sure if impressed
 
2013-06-22 10:52:33 AM  
Orlando would be a pretty kewl place to host the olympics.  just throwing that out there
 
2013-06-22 11:02:13 AM  
Other depressing things about the Sarajevo Olympic sites:

When President Clinton threatened to bomb Belasnica in the civil war that has devoured what was once Yugoslavia, the Serbs dynamited the 1984 Olympic ski facilities and torched the hotels as they withdrew.

Scott Hamilton soared to a figure skating gold medal under the snowflake-shaped roof of Zetra, a new $20 million indoor arena where Vladislav Tretiak, the legendary Soviet goaltender, earned his fourth gold medal in his Olympic finale. As a major target of Serbian artillery, Zetra is a burned-out shell. It is surrounded by graves.

The winding road up to Trebevic is known now as the War Road. From the mountain, the Serbs keep lobbing mortars and fire artillery and tank shells into Sarajevo; they stripped the aluminum off the bobsled and luge runs to build bunkers.

Many of Sarajevo's 450,000 citizens had contributed a small percentage of their $125 average monthly salary for four years to construct the Olympic venues. (During the war) along the roads to the deserted 50,000-seat soccer stadium, according to John F. Burns, a foreign correspondent of The New York Times, there were dead bodies from snipers or mortar shells. Autos never stopped there.


Sports complex with graveyard:
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Olympic village:
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2013-06-22 11:04:07 AM  

The Smails Kid: RickN99: TheGreatGazoo: Atlanta has gotten better since the Olympics.

People can complain about aspects of the Atlanta Olympics, but the venue-use plan was awesome.  One of the best things the AOC did.

/Atlanta native; resident for 37 yearsSome of them. They screwed the pooch on the shooting sports venue.

/ still bitter


The skeet range is still in use.
 
2013-06-22 11:06:02 AM  
The Olympic Oval is in terrific shape, boasts great ice, has a good deal of other excersize areas, the 2 hockey rinks, skating track, running track

The ski jumps and luge are in good shape too.

Too bad the lower parts of the city are so flooded right now.
 
2013-06-22 11:07:57 AM  
Sorry, my anonymity on Fark is too important to provide any specifics. I didn't place well but did better than expected. It was wonderful experience. An incredibly positive atmosphere was everywhere. Everyone was smiling. Somewhere in a closet I have an article about the games and the reporter talks about the Sarajevo smile and how it infected everyone. He mentioned that sports reporters are some of the most hard bitten people in the world and at most press conferences they elbow each other for space. At Sarajevo several times other reporters asked him if he could see alright and offered to move to let him take pictures. He couldn't believe it.

The last night there were parties everywhere and I spent a lot of time with a group of Yugoslavians I had met. They were from different regions of the country and were having a great time together. I left the games thinking I had seen a glimpse of the future of humanity when differences would be forgotten.

How quickly my delusion was dispelled. Many of the people I knew were killed in the war. Whenever I think of the experience, what happened afterwards takes a lot of the joy from the memory as do the photos in the article.
 
2013-06-22 11:09:14 AM  

llort dam eht: In Sarajevo there are active land mines.  Did you miss the whole civil war and Czechoslovakia breaking up into three separate and distinct countries in the intervening time.



Where exactly do you think Sarajevo is?
 
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