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2013-06-21 05:30:21 PM
My cat is a sheep.  Your argument is invalid.

/bet it's warm in the summer..........
 
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2013-06-21 06:00:10 PM
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Dogs have been doing this for years without the genetic engineering.

/I can't speak for any dog owner that would subject a pup to this kind of crap, but still ....
 
2013-06-21 06:34:15 PM
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2013-06-21 07:48:34 PM

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 310x255]
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lulz
 
2013-06-21 07:49:00 PM
I've seen cats like that before, but it turns out they were just dirty and matted.
 
2013-06-21 08:02:45 PM
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2013-06-21 08:34:38 PM
Known as Selkirk Rex

This will never become popular. Everyone hates dubstep.
 
2013-06-21 08:58:39 PM

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 310x255]
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Win!
 
2013-06-21 09:01:08 PM
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2013-06-21 09:34:09 PM
Laser-cats still under development.
 
2013-06-22 12:34:27 AM
want
 
2013-06-22 12:35:27 AM
After the "Fluffy Cows" article yesterday, nothing surprises me anymore.
 
2013-06-22 12:37:45 AM
Because the kinky hair is a dominant trait, it's easy for breeders to retain the curls while crossbreeding to maintain genetic diversity.

So, yay? Although, if it's a dominant trait that can be hybridized all over, where's the breed status?

I used to have a b-grade Bombay Black purebred, which was defined by being pure black in both sexes with panther like heads. That snaggle toothed cat was a 12 pound chicken that learned how to hide in closets and cabinets and eventually got expensive to take care of with allergies and finicky diet, so I'm all for well rounded breeds.

/He died about a year ago.
//Only good thing from my marriage.
 
2013-06-22 12:41:20 AM

fusillade762: Known as Selkirk Rex

This will never become popular. Everyone hates dubstep.


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2013-06-22 12:54:53 AM
Yeah, in the eighties I always figured I could never really ever get Cybil Shepard, so I just fantasized about doing Agnes Depesto.
 
2013-06-22 12:58:09 AM
Coodles.
 
2013-06-22 12:59:34 AM
It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.
 
2013-06-22 01:15:04 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: but we can't force one species to change into a new species.

Give it time.
 
2013-06-22 01:38:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.


There is a difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution.  It would be crazy amount of trials to try and purposely cause macro-evolution.  That's an advantage millions of years has over the repeatable qualification of science.
 
2013-06-22 01:54:29 AM

LordOfThePings: Coodles.


Sqoodle.

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2013-06-22 02:06:47 AM
They've been around for years. Not news. Oh right, fark!
 
2013-06-22 02:32:31 AM

LordOfThePings: LordOfThePings: Coodles.

Sqoodle.

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Is that Lady Gaga?
 
2013-06-22 02:47:57 AM
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2013-06-22 03:26:52 AM
poodle cat = pussy dog
 
2013-06-22 03:37:26 AM

Meatybrain: poodle cat = pussy dog


Cal Worthington = pussy cow pussy cow pussy cow
 
2013-06-22 03:44:24 AM
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2013-06-22 03:49:07 AM

optikeye: [img.fark.net image 600x496]


That is extremely cute, yet extremely disturbing at the same time.
 
2013-06-22 03:50:54 AM
So...it's a rex cat.  They've been around forever.
 
2013-06-22 03:56:50 AM

optikeye: [img.fark.net image 600x496]


Now try that with a Tibetan Mastiff.

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2013-06-22 04:02:27 AM

Sparky the Fire Dog: LordOfThePings: LordOfThePings: Coodles.

Sqoodle.

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Is that Lady Gaga?


Mine craft doggy.
 
2013-06-22 04:06:59 AM

Contents Under Pressure: They've been around for years. Not news. Oh right, fark!


Years even .
 
2013-06-22 04:07:20 AM
Looks a little bit like a LaPerm.
 
2013-06-22 04:31:19 AM
Where's grumpy poodle cat?
 
2013-06-22 05:35:51 AM
Selkirk Rex shed. Poodles don't. Ergo, it isn't a "Poodle Cat".
 
2013-06-22 06:08:47 AM

wildcardjack: Because the kinky hair is a dominant trait, it's easy for breeders to retain the curls while crossbreeding to maintain genetic diversity.

So, yay? Although, if it's a dominant trait that can be hybridized all over, where's the breed status?

I used to have a b-grade Bombay Black purebred, which was defined by being pure black in both sexes with panther like heads. That snaggle toothed cat was a 12 pound chicken that learned how to hide in closets and cabinets and eventually got expensive to take care of with allergies and finicky diet, so I'm all for well rounded breeds.

/He died about a year ago.
//Only good thing from my marriage.


bombayblack.com

"BOMBAY BLACK-We rock the high society! Psychedelic Rock´n Roll from Germany."
 
2013-06-22 06:13:59 AM

kayanlau: Where's grumpy poodle cat?


grats, now the thread is cursed and it and its incarnations will appear multiple times.
 
2013-06-22 06:44:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.


...If you're expecting a cat to become a dog, you're doing it wrong.
 
2013-06-22 08:16:12 AM
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2013-06-22 08:17:36 AM

IlGreven: AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.

...If you're expecting a cat to become a dog, you're doing it wrong.


Well, from cat to "not a cat", not necessarily a dog.
 
2013-06-22 10:14:38 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.


Actually, we have forced the creation of a new species pretty much every time we created a domestic version of a wild animal.
 
2013-06-22 11:24:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: IlGreven: AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.

...If you're expecting a cat to become a dog, you're doing it wrong.

Well, from cat to "not a cat", not necessarily a dog.



Where do you place the boundaries of "cat"?  You have to be specific so that you know when those boundaries have or have not been crossed.  If an argument against evolution requires that the categories be left nebulous and undefined, then it is a dishonest argument.
 
2013-06-22 11:26:30 AM
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2013-06-22 11:27:00 AM

FloydA: AverageAmericanGuy: IlGreven: AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty amazing how we can force such genetic variation within a species, but we can't force one species to change into a new species. It's like evolution can work within a very limited scope to create interesting variations on a theme, but it takes something else to create actual new species.

Cute cat. I wonder if it has problems in the summer due to the heat.

...If you're expecting a cat to become a dog, you're doing it wrong.

Well, from cat to "not a cat", not necessarily a dog.


Where do you place the boundaries of "cat"?  You have to be specific so that you know when those boundaries have or have not been crossed.  If an argument against evolution requires that the categories be left nebulous and undefined, then it is a dishonest argument.


Certainly a smart scientist like yourself would understand speciation.
 
2013-06-22 11:31:50 AM

CygnusDarius: optikeye: [img.fark.net image 600x496]

Now try that with a Tibetan Mastiff.

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Every time I see that picture I imagine how terrifying that is with that dog bearing down on you like that.
 
2013-06-22 11:44:16 AM
AverageAmericanGuy:
Certainly a smart scientist like yourself would understand speciation.

Yes, actually.  If that's your criteria, then isolation is a prerequisite.  Domestic cats are interfertile with  F.silvestris and will remain so as long as people keep letting domestic cats out in areas that have wild cats.  Since wild and domestic cats are interfertile, the line between those species is "blurry" and permeable, which is exactly what evolutionary theory predicts.

So again, where is the boundary between "cat" and "not a cat" located?  Until you present a specific, empirically measurable boundary between "cat" and "non-cat," you're not asking a reasonable question; you're just preparing to move the goalposts.  You have to define your terms if you want an answer.
 
2013-06-22 11:49:28 AM

Khazar-Khum: Selkirk Rex shed. Poodles don't. Ergo, it isn't a "Poodle Cat".


This.  Call me when they breed a cat that has hair, not fur.

/actually, don't call me.  I'm not allergic, and already have two awesome cats, so I don't care.
 
2013-06-22 11:50:06 AM

FloydA: AverageAmericanGuy:
Certainly a smart scientist like yourself would understand speciation.

Yes, actually.  If that's your criteria, then isolation is a prerequisite.  Domestic cats are interfertile with  F.silvestris and will remain so as long as people keep letting domestic cats out in areas that have wild cats.  Since wild and domestic cats are interfertile, the line between those species is "blurry" and permeable, which is exactly what evolutionary theory predicts.

So again, where is the boundary between "cat" and "not a cat" located?  Until you present a specific, empirically measurable boundary between "cat" and "non-cat," you're not asking a reasonable question; you're just preparing to move the goalposts.  You have to define your terms if you want an answer.


The very act of breeding these different types of cats is an artificial way of creating new and unique cats. In just a few generations, this curly haired cat was produced from a single kitten in a litter. Taking this to its logical conclusion, if evolution is correct, then it should be possible to breed 'cat' out of some cat and have a new species.

That has nothing to do with "wild and domestic cats" or any other such bullshiat attempts to distract from the original point.
 
2013-06-22 11:52:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: FloydA: AverageAmericanGuy:
Certainly a smart scientist like yourself would understand speciation.

Yes, actually.  If that's your criteria, then isolation is a prerequisite.  Domestic cats are interfertile with  F.silvestris and will remain so as long as people keep letting domestic cats out in areas that have wild cats.  Since wild and domestic cats are interfertile, the line between those species is "blurry" and permeable, which is exactly what evolutionary theory predicts.

So again, where is the boundary between "cat" and "not a cat" located?  Until you present a specific, empirically measurable boundary between "cat" and "non-cat," you're not asking a reasonable question; you're just preparing to move the goalposts.  You have to define your terms if you want an answer.

The very act of breeding these different types of cats is an artificial way of creating new and unique cats. In just a few generations, this curly haired cat was produced from a single kitten in a litter. Taking this to its logical conclusion, if evolution is correct, then it should be possible to breed 'cat' out of some cat and have a new species.

That has nothing to do with "wild and domestic cats" or any other such bullshiat attempts to distract from the original point.



How do you define "cat" in a way that would allow it to be "bred out" of a cat?

I'm not going to play this game any more until you answer that question.
 
2013-06-22 11:55:05 AM

FloydA: AverageAmericanGuy: FloydA: AverageAmericanGuy:
Certainly a smart scientist like yourself would understand speciation.

Yes, actually.  If that's your criteria, then isolation is a prerequisite.  Domestic cats are interfertile with  F.silvestris and will remain so as long as people keep letting domestic cats out in areas that have wild cats.  Since wild and domestic cats are interfertile, the line between those species is "blurry" and permeable, which is exactly what evolutionary theory predicts.

So again, where is the boundary between "cat" and "not a cat" located?  Until you present a specific, empirically measurable boundary between "cat" and "non-cat," you're not asking a reasonable question; you're just preparing to move the goalposts.  You have to define your terms if you want an answer.

The very act of breeding these different types of cats is an artificial way of creating new and unique cats. In just a few generations, this curly haired cat was produced from a single kitten in a litter. Taking this to its logical conclusion, if evolution is correct, then it should be possible to breed 'cat' out of some cat and have a new species.

That has nothing to do with "wild and domestic cats" or any other such bullshiat attempts to distract from the original point.


How do you define "cat" in a way that would allow it to be "bred out" of a cat?

I'm not going to play this game any more until you answer that question.


The new "cat" species cannot interbreed with existing cat species.
 
2013-06-22 11:59:08 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The very act of breeding these different types of cats is an artificial way of creating new and unique cats.


LOL

AverageAmericanGuy: Taking this to its logical conclusion, if evolution is correct, then it should be possible to breed 'cat' out of some cat and have a new species.


WUT

Not only do you not understand taxonomy or speciation, your grasp of logic leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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