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2013-06-21 03:07:35 PM
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Could have been worse
 
2013-06-21 03:08:48 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: /granted, but i have never seen that happen.  Not saying it doesn't, but in my 25 years experience, i have not seem promotions based on ticket revenue.



Thank you for your service!
 
2013-06-21 03:09:29 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: And yes, it's not only a revenue cow, but also helps keep speeds down, dui's off the road.  So it IS a safety issue.


You'd stand a lot better chance of persuading us of that if:

a) You didn't sell (and give to family and friends) stickers that are treated as a get-out-of-speeding-free card.

b) You didn't speed (and other dangerous driving) yourselves without your siren and/or flashers on. (True story: when I was a learner driver, I was tailgated for several miles by a cop car, despite the fact that there was no traffic coming the other way and the road markings indicated he was free to overtake, I was in a marked learner driver vehicle, and I was doing the speed limit. The instructor told me to ignore him and that he was trying to intimidate me into speeding so he could ticket me.)

c) The speed limits weren't ignored completely 95% of the time by 99% of the traffic on the road, and only enforced on the one or two days a month when you're gunning for quota.

d) The speed limits were set realistically in the first place. (Yes, I know, you don't choose that -- but there are many places in my town where wide, safe, straight roads with no merging traffic have significantly lower speed limits than tight, twisty roads with blind corners and blind entrances to the road. They're clearly set to generate money, not dictate a real safe speed.)

Frankly, you can take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. Speed limits and speeding tickets, by and large, have nothing to do with safety in much of the USA. They're a cash generator and nothing else. If they were really about safety they'd make sense for the road conditions, and they would be enforced properly *all* of the time. (And don't give me the "there's not enough manpower" excuse -- the speeding tickets would easily cover the cost of the staff, training, and extra equipment needed to issue them.)

/personally, I wouldn't speed at all if nobody else was; I usually limit myself to five over the posted limit (which is still slower than all the prevailing traffic around me), unless I consider five under to be dangerously slow compared to the prevailing traffic. Driving at the speed limit here would frankly be suicidal most of the time.
 
2013-06-21 03:10:39 PM
I think everyone should beware of back seat monkeys with video.
 
2013-06-21 03:11:20 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.


Try enforcing laws that actually make the roads safer, and you'll be surprised at how little whining you have to put up with.
 
2013-06-21 03:14:53 PM
If you ain't a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.
 
2013-06-21 03:17:08 PM

gweilo8888: Frankly, you can take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. Speed limits and speeding tickets, by and large, have nothing to do with safety in much of the USA. They're a cash generator and nothing else. If they were really about safety they'd make sense for the road conditions, and they would be enforced properly *all* of the time. (And don't give me the "there's not enough manpower" excuse -- the speeding tickets would easily cover the cost of the staff, training, and extra equipment needed to issue them.)


It would help if road engineers were allowed to do their job properly since nearly 80% of people will travel the same speed along a road regardless of its posted limit. It's the engineers job to find that limit and then the cops job to enforce it on the 20%. However you have city officials choose limits below engineering recommendations.

So really, it ain't all on the officers out there
 
2013-06-21 03:19:36 PM
Next week's headline:  Texas police officer dies of Ebola.
 
2013-06-21 03:19:57 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: bopis: Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Man who spit in your liter of cola!

/chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.

1/10


1/10 for a solid Super Troopers reference? this grading system is rigged!
 
2013-06-21 03:20:13 PM

gweilo8888: Bit'O'Gristle: And yes, it's not only a revenue cow, but also helps keep speeds down, dui's off the road.  So it IS a safety issue.

You'd stand a lot better chance of persuading us of that if:

a) You didn't sell (and give to family and friends) stickers that are treated as a get-out-of-speeding-free card.

b) You didn't speed (and other dangerous driving) yourselves without your siren and/or flashers on. (True story: when I was a learner driver, I was tailgated for several miles by a cop car, despite the fact that there was no traffic coming the other way and the road markings indicated he was free to overtake, I was in a marked learner driver vehicle, and I was doing the speed limit. The instructor told me to ignore him and that he was trying to intimidate me into speeding so he could ticket me.)

c) The speed limits weren't ignored completely 95% of the time by 99% of the traffic on the road, and only enforced on the one or two days a month when you're gunning for quota.

d) The speed limits were set realistically in the first place. (Yes, I know, you don't choose that -- but there are many places in my town where wide, safe, straight roads with no merging traffic have significantly lower speed limits than tight, twisty roads with blind corners and blind entrances to the road. They're clearly set to generate money, not dictate a real safe speed.)

Frankly, you can take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. Speed limits and speeding tickets, by and large, have nothing to do with safety in much of the USA. They're a cash generator and nothing else. If they were really about safety they'd make sense for the road conditions, and they would be enforced properly *all* of the time. (And don't give me the "there's not enough manpower" excuse -- the speeding tickets would easily cover the cost of the staff, training, and extra equipment needed to issue them.)

/personally, I wouldn't speed at all if nobody else was; I usually limit myself to five over the posted limit (whic ...


/ i see your points..i do, and although i haven't resorted to insults as you have, allow me to retort.  I'm guessing, (and i could be wrong) that you have never been a police officer in your lifetime.  All these viewpoints of yours, perhaps believable in your mind, having had no actual experience doing the job, are valid. I respect that.  But you also must admit that you have no actual working knowledge of police operations, beyond getting pulled over for speeding or whatever incidents you have been through with the law to taint your obvious left leaning hate of all people in uniform and the authority they represent.  i won't sit here and argue the fine points of your detailed and meticulous break down of each aspect of police work with you, as you haven't done it, and it would be pointless as you have 0 knowledge of how being a cop is, or what they do beyond your ignorant viewpoint.

I don't sit here and tell Doctors how to do their jobs, as I'm not a Dr. Nor do i tell people in other professions how to do their jobs, as i have never done them, and telling people how to do them would make me look like an idiot, as  I am ignorant of how to do them. Perhaps you could take a ride along with the local constabulary at some point.  You might find it not only interesting, but informative on what actual beat cops do. Then, after a few weeks exposure to that, you have a right to a somewhat informed viewpoint.
 
2013-06-21 03:22:23 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: bopis: Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Man who spit in your liter of cola!

/chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.

1/10


Oh, shut up.

This nonsense of fining people in some unknown arbitrary fashion is absolute nonsense.  Yeah, we would like you police folks to help when we, the public, are in danger.  We would like you to keep us safe by pulling over and warning people who are are being unsafe.  But the whole concept making us write you a check for it is absolutely absurd.

Perhaps the reason I feel like this is that MANY times I have been fined for things that I simply did not do - just to fill someone's quota, or maybe just to line someone's pocket.  I actually had a cop say to me once, "I know you weren't really speeding.  But try to fight it in court.  Who do you think they will believe?"

So don't give me that crap.
 
2013-06-21 03:25:20 PM

Man On Pink Corner: Bit'O'Gristle: So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Try enforcing laws that actually make the roads safer, and you'll be surprised at how little whining you have to put up with.


/really? hmm...and how should i do that? Break out my magic ball of law enforcement wonder that tells me what laws matter and which ones don't?  I don't know where you grew up, or live, but were i live and work, we don't get the option to pick which laws we like or don't like to enforce. Laws are laws, and as a police officer, you are obligated to enforce them. Don't like a law? Fine..i can respect that. There are many laws i don't like.  If you disagree with a law, call your state representative, or congressman.  Don't hate on the police for enforcing laws they didn't make.
 
2013-06-21 03:25:30 PM
"Cops abuse their power! Moar accountability! Better evidence!"

*cops obtain personal video cameras to record exactly what they see, to allay the public's fears, increase accountability and present the best evidence to juries*

"WHAR COPS GET FANCY CAMERA!? COPS TAKE MUH MUNIEZ WHEN I AM BUSTED FOR DEALING DRUGS. IT'S UNFAIR! WHAR 0BAMA WHAR?"

You people...
 
2013-06-21 03:25:42 PM
Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?
 
2013-06-21 03:26:58 PM
Shockingly, "back seat monkey" did not return any porn on the first screen.

/You're letting me down, internet.
 
2013-06-21 03:27:32 PM

Yellow Beard: Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?


/yes, there are plate badges. And that doesn't mean that its a "get out of a ticket" right.  I have written many tickets to people with those. Have what you want on your car, i don't care.  The law applies to everyone.
 
2013-06-21 03:30:03 PM
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Kiss would have been better?
 
2013-06-21 03:31:14 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Yellow Beard: Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?

/yes, there are plate badges. And that doesn't mean that its a "get out of a ticket" right.  I have written many tickets to people with those. Have what you want on your car, i don't care.  The law applies to everyone.


can you tell us why there are 2 kinds of FOP plate badges for cars then? I only ask because I've never had a ticket for speeding and believe me I've been pulled over for ludicrous speed.
 
2013-06-21 03:31:34 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: gweilo8888: Bit'O'Gristle: And yes, it's not only a revenue cow, but also helps keep speeds down, dui's off the road.  So it IS a safety issue.

You'd stand a lot better chance of persuading us of that if:

a) You didn't sell (and give to family and friends) stickers that are treated as a get-out-of-speeding-free card.

b) You didn't speed (and other dangerous driving) yourselves without your siren and/or flashers on. (True story: when I was a learner driver, I was tailgated for several miles by a cop car, despite the fact that there was no traffic coming the other way and the road markings indicated he was free to overtake, I was in a marked learner driver vehicle, and I was doing the speed limit. The instructor told me to ignore him and that he was trying to intimidate me into speeding so he could ticket me.)

c) The speed limits weren't ignored completely 95% of the time by 99% of the traffic on the road, and only enforced on the one or two days a month when you're gunning for quota.

d) The speed limits were set realistically in the first place. (Yes, I know, you don't choose that -- but there are many places in my town where wide, safe, straight roads with no merging traffic have significantly lower speed limits than tight, twisty roads with blind corners and blind entrances to the road. They're clearly set to generate money, not dictate a real safe speed.)

Frankly, you can take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere. Speed limits and speeding tickets, by and large, have nothing to do with safety in much of the USA. They're a cash generator and nothing else. If they were really about safety they'd make sense for the road conditions, and they would be enforced properly *all* of the time. (And don't give me the "there's not enough manpower" excuse -- the speeding tickets would easily cover the cost of the staff, training, and extra equipment needed to issue them.)

/personally, I wouldn't speed at all if nobody else was; I usually limit myself to five over the posted ...


Bit'O'Gristle: Man On Pink Corner: Bit'O'Gristle: So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Try enforcing laws that actually make the roads safer, and you'll be surprised at how little whining you have to put up with.

/really? hmm...and how should i do that? Break out my magic ball of law enforcement wonder that tells me what laws matter and which ones don't?  I don't know where you grew up, or live, but were i live and work, we don't get the option to pick which laws we like or don't like to enforce. Laws are laws, and as a police officer, you are obligated to enforce them. Don't like a law? Fine..i can respect that. There are many laws i don't like.  If you disagree with a law, call your state representative, or congressman.  Don't hate on the police for enforcing laws they didn't make.


Bull Connor is that you?
 
2013-06-21 03:32:15 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Yellow Beard: Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?

/yes, there are plate badges. And that doesn't mean that its a "get out of a ticket" right.  I have written many tickets to people with those. Have what you want on your car, i don't care.  The law applies to everyone.


also, are you trying to say that you've pulled over somebody that showed you the tin and you still wrote them up??
 
2013-06-21 03:39:13 PM
Bit'O'Gristle, what's your take on cops speeding? I know it is bad form to paint everyone with the broad brush, but I have personally been told by a Trooper that speeding is the best part of the job.

On duty or off duty he is a super aggressive driver, he told me he was trained to drive this way. And the truth of the matter is it dangerous. He knows he will never get ticketed, but it's still unsafe.

And he isn't the only one. I know a couple of the guys he works with too. They brag about how fast they can make it to their barracks from their homes.

The main reason I don't speed is not because I am afraid of a ticket, I don't want to be come one with my dashboard and windshield.
 
2013-06-21 03:40:07 PM
Peter Venkman: Viggy, Viggy, Viggy, you have been a bad monkey!
 
2013-06-21 03:44:12 PM

Yellow Beard: Bit'O'Gristle: Yellow Beard: Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?

/yes, there are plate badges. And that doesn't mean that its a "get out of a ticket" right.  I have written many tickets to people with those. Have what you want on your car, i don't care.  The law applies to everyone.

also, are you trying to say that you've pulled over somebody that showed you the tin and you still wrote them up??


/oh yes. Many times. You should see the look on their faces when i hand them the ticket.  But...but..i have this stiiiicker. Priceless.
 
2013-06-21 03:47:35 PM

Nhojwolfe: We need more monkeys like this. Maybe teach the cops from farming money from the public.  I mean umm writing tickets.


Law-enforcement based on revenues generated by law enforcement is just begging for abuse.  Pay a little more in taxes, if you want more protection.
 
2013-06-21 03:49:54 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Yellow Beard: Bit'O'Gristle: Yellow Beard: Bit'o'Gristle, are you saying there are or aren't get out of ticket free cards or plate badges?

/yes, there are plate badges. And that doesn't mean that its a "get out of a ticket" right.  I have written many tickets to people with those. Have what you want on your car, i don't care.  The law applies to everyone.

also, are you trying to say that you've pulled over somebody that showed you the tin and you still wrote them up??

/oh yes. Many times. You should see the look on their faces when i hand them the ticket.  But...but..i have this stiiiicker. Priceless.


By "showed you the tin" I meant a fellow officer showing his badge. You really have written up fellow coppers for speeding? Hope you never need backup. Then again, I think the odds you wrote any cop a ticket for speeding are almost the same as me winning the powerball except I have a better chance of winning it.
 
2013-06-21 03:50:19 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: /oh yes. Many times. You should see the look on their faces when i hand them the ticket. But...but..i have this stiiiicker. Priceless.


/saves versus bullshiat, needs 4 or more on d20

//makes it
 
2013-06-21 03:52:39 PM

CygnusDarius: ReapTheChaos: Typical cop over dramatizing the situation. Couldn't just say the monkey scratched/bit his hand, nope he was ATTACKED!!

This is the same shiat as cops charging someone with resisting arrest because they asked why they were being arrested instead of immediately assuming the position.

Well, monkeys can rip people's face off.


This!
 
2013-06-21 03:57:44 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Officer works for the town of Aransas Pass, Texas.

http://www.officer.com/news/10975349/video-monkey-attacks-aransas-pa ss -texas-police-officer

Pop. 8,138 in 2000, 6,067 in 2010.  Median income $34K, 24% poverty rate.

WTF is with all the Robocop gear?


A lot of winter Texans and tourists flock to the area. The figures aren't representative of that.
 
2013-06-21 04:02:49 PM

CygnusDarius: ReapTheChaos: Typical cop over dramatizing the situation. Couldn't just say the monkey scratched/bit his hand, nope he was ATTACKED!!

This is the same shiat as cops charging someone with resisting arrest because they asked why they were being arrested instead of immediately assuming the position.

Well, monkeys can rip people's face off.


and guns can kill people... you're not saying you want to deprive responsible monkey owners of their god given right to have as many monkeys of whatever type they want just because of the potential for harm, are you?   what if the founding fathers were including monkeys when they referred to a 'well organized militia'?
 
2013-06-21 04:10:04 PM
Came for every which way but loose, leaving satisfied
 
2013-06-21 04:30:43 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.


With today's forfeiture laws, the police can simply take all your cash.  No tickets are necessary.  And the more cash you're carrying, the more likely they are to take it.

Of course you can get it back if you pay a lawyer about $10,000.

What a country, huh?
 
2013-06-21 04:31:32 PM
In California they would shoot the monkey and charge the driver with harboring a furgitive.
 
2013-06-21 04:49:45 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: bopis: Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Man who spit in your liter of cola!

/chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.

1/10


It's not a 1/10 if you reacted to it.

Anyway ... I don't blame you for reacting. I'm sure that a lot of people who aren't cops had to put up with the bullsh*t and uninformed yammering from dipshiats on Internet forums, they would occasionally burst forth with a bit of a rant, and probably handle it a lot less tactfully than you did.

On Fark, everyone's an expert on the police, "the media," journalism, explosives, medicine, the military, the U.S. Constitution ...
 
2013-06-21 04:51:39 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.


Can't sue the cops for failing to do their job. Supreme Court said so. The Supreme Court recently ruled on this and said the police to not have a duty to protect or a duty to enforce protection orders. The case originated out of Colorado Springs, Colorado. You can sue the police if you like, but under Supreme Court precedent, your case will likely fail.
 
2013-06-21 05:17:28 PM

Cold_Sassy: doubled99: Very well trained!

Well you have to give the cops credit for not getting all whiny about it or shooting the monkey.


He just graduated from the academy, so there's still a tiny spark of empathy in him. That'll be gone in a few months.
 
2013-06-21 05:35:58 PM

MadAzza: Bit'O'Gristle: bopis: Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.

Man who spit in your liter of cola!

/chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.

1/10

It's not a 1/10 if you reacted to it.

Anyway ... I don't blame you for reacting. I'm sure that a lot of people who aren't cops had to put up with the bullsh*t and uninformed yammering from dipshiats on Internet forums, they would occasionally burst forth with a bit of a rant, and probably handle it a lot less tactfully than you did.

On Fark, everyone's an expert on the police, "the media," journalism, explosives, medicine, the military, the U.S. Constitution ...


/how true..and thanks. i did try to be tactful.
 
2013-06-21 07:02:36 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Officer works for the town of Aransas Pass, Texas.

http://www.officer.com/news/10975349/video-monkey-attacks-aransas-pa ss -texas-police-officer

Pop. 8,138 in 2000, 6,067 in 2010.  Median income $34K, 24% poverty rate.

WTF is with all the Robocop gear?


I like it.... We visit aransas pass about twice a year and those cameras are new to me...   I hope all cops start wearing them soon.
 
2013-06-21 07:24:41 PM

Maul555: I like it.... We visit aransas pass about twice a year and those cameras are new to me...   I hope all cops start wearing them soon.


This.  It sounds like a decent police force, all things considered.  I expected the cop to go berserk, empty a Glock into the monkey, Taser the driver, charge him with attempted murder of a police officer, file a union grievance, and call in an air strike.  Instead, I have to say he reacted more calmly than I would have if attacked by a monkey I didn't know was there.
 
2013-06-21 09:26:23 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: although i haven't resorted to insults as you have


Allow me to remind you of YOUR VERY Boobies BEFORE ANYBODY SAID A WORD TO YOU.

Bit'O'Gristle: the haters here can suck it long and deep ... try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.


You have a very short memory of your own actions, don't you?

/and a very overinflated sense of your self-worth
 
2013-06-21 10:34:09 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: /chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.


Don't you guys almost always get there after the fact unless there's an enormous amount of luck involved?  A burglar would have to be taking his sweet time if he got caught by the police while someone was in the house, the response time just isn't fast enough.  Same with random fights.

I suppose a response time is faster in a city when you have cops constantly on patrol, but out in the country where I live, I wouldn't expect the cops to get to my house in under 30 minutes.  We had to call an ambulance once, and it took them 35 minutes to get here.  I wouldn't fault the cops for not showing up fast enough, it's not like they have teleporters.
 
2013-06-21 11:14:40 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Wow, must be nice. Back in the day when i was an officer, we had to use something called a ...wait for it....pen and paper to write tickets. And no robocop gear on your head either, just your hat. No dash cam either. That being said, the haters here can suck it long and deep. Yes, the department gets a small cut of each ticket for operational costs and new equipment. That does not mean that we wrote tickets to get more cash. In fact, i was never told that "you're not writing enough, or....write x amount per shift.". So, try not speeding then whine because you got a citation, and make up lame ass excuses like "omg..you're just trying to make your quota" derp. Unless you have done the job, you have NO idea what it entails.


Local sheriff ran on the platform that he'd raised ticket revenue (from out of town drivers).

That's not where the real money is though, that's asset seizure.
 
2013-06-22 12:23:31 AM
Bottom line with this is, like with all corruptible organizations, we need to remove the money from the equation. Either get rid of the money charging associated with tickets (letting the possibility of one's license being revoked for repeat offenses, along with insurance hikes, be the real deterrent) -- or divert money garnered from tickets to non-police, non-court coffers.

Probably the most egregious example of vested interest in ticket money is California's "Uniform Bail and Penalty Schedule," which starts with "base" fine values (which are something reasonable, around $25-100), then tacks on all sorts of fees and charges for things like courthouse construction, emergency medical services, and even the state's DNA identification database. Of course, counties and local municipalities all get their share of the pot. How could you get a court to agree in your favor on a ticket if the judge is thinking about the brand new courtroom he's going to get with your ticket money?

Here is the schedule. http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/Final-2012-JC-BAIL.pdf . Take a look at the "base fine" column for an infraction, then look over at the "total bail" column. That's what you, Joe Driver, get stuck with in CA after everybody gets done charging.

The state got caught when they made a big deal about the new "handheld cell phone" law a few years ago. They kept hyping that it was a $20 ticket (quoting the "base fine" value) but people started raising a fuss when their actual ticket was more like $160. Now, when they remind people about the law, they state the actual amount of the fine. Same with the seat belt law.

I'm all for nailing reckless, careless drivers that are a menace to the public, but all this ticketing for stuff like rolling stops and a few over the limit, especially when based on radar, are nothing more than a cash grab, plain and simple. A ticket is a very serious referendum on a person's driving ability and should be taken as seriously by the officer dishing it out as the person getting screwed.

On radar: LEOs out there correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't a seasoned officer be able to visually estimate if somebody is speeding? I see radar as a crutch that allows cops to write more tickets and to make the tickets stick in court ("yes, Your Honor, my equipment was calibrated and I possess a valid certificate on its use.")
 
2013-06-22 06:13:40 AM

Lsherm: Bit'O'Gristle: /chuckles.im sure if someone was breaking into your house, or kicking the shiat out of you or someone you love, you would be the first one to sue a department for not showing up fast enough.  Only when you need us right?  Not when you're breaking the law and get caught.

Don't you guys almost always get there after the fact unless there's an enormous amount of luck involved?  A burglar would have to be taking his sweet time if he got caught by the police while someone was in the house, the response time just isn't fast enough.  Same with random fights.

I suppose a response time is faster in a city when you have cops constantly on patrol, but out in the country where I live, I wouldn't expect the cops to get to my house in under 30 minutes.  We had to call an ambulance once, and it took them 35 minutes to get here.  I wouldn't fault the cops for not showing up fast enough, it's not like they have teleporters.


If we want cops to prevent crime, we have to get rid of a few Amendments.  As things stand, the best they can do is track down criminals and get them off the streets.  Choose wisely, citizens.
 
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