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2013-06-21 12:57:12 PM
Grrr  Find those people, get the money back x3, put them in the pokey for 6 months, and make sure they can never work any position related to education or the disable, ever again.
 
2013-06-21 12:57:43 PM
Drug forfeiture, of course.
 
2013-06-21 12:58:57 PM
The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.
 
2013-06-21 12:59:20 PM
They were paid in potatoes.
 
2013-06-21 12:59:55 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


I caught that great gem also...

/Proud to be an American....
 
2013-06-21 01:01:43 PM
So student gets paid for work, teacher has student withdraw money to never be seen again, and because its income under the law and mom never knew her SSI benefits are now at risk

I know as a society we have moved passed public punishment, but this asshole needs to be locked in stocks and fruit thrown at him.

I'm thinking coconuts
 
2013-06-21 01:02:29 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


It's her daughter (presumably soon-to-be-18) who would technically lose the check, and in the long run it's a lot more money.
 
2013-06-21 01:02:37 PM

Quinzy: rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.

I caught that great gem also...

/Proud to be an American....


Empowering women has morphed into entitlement.
 
2013-06-21 01:06:30 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


Yeah, how dare a mom be worried that her disabled child might not get disability because of these shenanigans.
 
2013-06-21 01:07:08 PM
I went to a tiny Christian high school where they paid their teachers worse than gas station attendants. One day one of the teachers (the kind of chick who always looked like she was seconds from crying) told us that if God moved us to do so, we should donate part of our lunch to our teachers. It sounds bad enough, but you really had to hear the tone and the "void of deep space" silence that followed to understand how weird and desperate it was.


Easily in my top 5 most uncomfortable moments ever.
 
2013-06-21 01:07:50 PM
Don't worry, the school administrators will "find no wrongdoing" and have a good laugh about it and it will be forgotten.
 
2013-06-21 01:08:33 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


SSI from my understanding is for disabled people, you know like the article states
/The mother sounds a bit off also
 
2013-06-21 01:09:06 PM
I'm afraid I must insist. You see, the SSI, they have been most vocal on the subject of the child's monies. "Where's the money?", "When are you going to get the money?" "Why aren't you getting the money now?" And so on.
 
2013-06-21 01:09:22 PM
Union employee FTW!
 
2013-06-21 01:10:35 PM
Duuuuuude, teachers are the biggest bullies in schools, maaaan.
 
2013-06-21 01:14:10 PM
I'm glad everyone is putting the blame where it belongs. On the teachers. Because we all know what kind of money grubbing sociopath every teacher is.

// if the money were left with stock brokers, all those kids would be rich now.
 
2013-06-21 01:16:38 PM
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She's just dying to steal the kids lunch money!
 
2013-06-21 01:17:47 PM
rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.

 It's not welfare, it's SSI.  Disabled persons can work, but they will never earn enough to live on.  SSI helps fill the gaps.  Mom and Dad won't be there forever.  And disabled people want to work, to feel like a regular, contributing member of society.  Thank God we live in a civilized country where we don't throw our most vunerable citizens in the street.  So go ahead now and start screaming that I'm a bleeding heart. Don't care - your taxes pay my autistic son's SSI so thank you so much! And yes, he works, I work and his father works and we all pay taxes and his income is deducted from his SSI.
As for the article, it made my blood boil. Steal from disabled kids? Were there no orphans available?
 
2013-06-21 01:18:25 PM
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Another one of those greedy union thugs!
 
2013-06-21 01:18:50 PM
Oh boy!!!!! Another bloody article of criminal school activity and absolutely zero mention if anyone bothered to call the police.

/Schools are not immune from the law.
 
2013-06-21 01:20:21 PM

bnanahammock: It's not welfare, it's SSI. Disabled persons can work, but they will never earn enough to live on. SSI helps fill the gaps. Mom and Dad won't be there forever. And disabled people want to work, to feel like a regular, contributing member of society. Thank God we live in a civilized country where we don't throw our most vunerable citizens in the street. So go ahead now and start screaming that I'm a bleeding heart. Don't care - your taxes pay my autistic son's SSI so thank you so much! And yes, he works, I work and his father works and we all pay taxes and his income is deducted from his SSI.
As for the article, it made my blood boil. Steal from disabled kids? Were there no orphans available?


And of course its not like even those who participate on the program were on it forever, I mean shiat this year I've been on medicaid for my daughter doesn't take into account the 18 year previous where I paid my taxes dutifully, no siree this thing isn't a safety net it for leeches right!?!

I want to throat punch people sometimes, not you obviously but some of you in this thread
 
2013-06-21 01:22:00 PM

maddogdelta: [img2.timeinc.net image 420x420]

Another one of those greedy union thugs!


Whats your point?
 
2013-06-21 01:23:14 PM

bopis: maddogdelta: [img2.timeinc.net image 420x420]

Another one of those greedy union thugs!

Whats your point?


That's the joke.
 
2013-06-21 01:27:42 PM

Magnanimous_J: I went to a tiny Christian high school where they paid their teachers worse than gas station attendants. One day one of the teachers (the kind of chick who always looked like she was seconds from crying) told us that if God moved us to do so, we should donate part of our lunch to our teachers. It sounds bad enough, but you really had to hear the tone and the "void of deep space" silence that followed to understand how weird and desperate it was.


Easily in my top 5 most uncomfortable moments ever.


I went to a Catholic high school where the cafeteria was run by a private outside company.  In my sophomore year the school decide to charge everyone a fee because the private company was losing money as the students were throwing away the silverware.  As the young free market type I suggested they raise their prices to cover costs instead of charging a fee.  I always brown bagged lunch so I refused to pay the fee.  A couple of weeks later my algebra teacher asked if she could borrow a few dollars for lunch.  No sooner had I handed it over than she  cackled I got the fee from you.  This taught me distrust of the needy.
 
2013-06-21 01:30:22 PM

bopis: Whats your point?


Well, everyone knows that  are the only adults at schools. They handle every task like accounting, bookkeeping, administration, lunch, etc. And teachers are just greedy union thugs who steal kids money.

I was just posting pictures of some typical socialist greedy union thugs.

Do you have a problem with that?
 
2013-06-21 01:32:48 PM

maddogdelta: bopis: Whats your point?

Well, everyone knows that  are the only adults at schools. They handle every task like accounting, bookkeeping, administration, lunch, etc. And teachers are just greedy union thugs who steal kids money.

I was just posting pictures of some typical socialist greedy union thugs.

Do you have a problem with that?


Did you miss the part of the article where the retarded kid gave the money to the teacher after it was removed from the acount or are you just trolling?
 
2013-06-21 01:33:23 PM
Was it Old Lady Simmons?
 
2013-06-21 01:33:36 PM
"Montgomery County Public Schools is investigating allegations that staff at Rock Terrace School improperly used funds that students earned through their Transition to Work program. While these are just allegations at this point, we are taking the matter very seriously and are conducting a thorough investigation. Appropriate action will be taken based on the facts of the case, once the investigation is completed. In order to protect the integrity of this investigation, we will not comment further at this time."


Uh, this is way into "police investigating" territory with embezzlement and identity theft on the table for openers.
 
2013-06-21 01:36:11 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: So student gets paid for work, teacher has student withdraw money to never be seen again, and because its income under the law and mom never knew her SSI benefits are now at risk

I know as a society we have moved passed public punishment, but this asshole needs to be locked in stocks and fruit thrown at him.

I'm thinking coconuts


Nah, durians.
 
2013-06-21 01:40:04 PM

ChaosStar: Did you miss the part of the article where the retarded kid gave the money to the teacher after it was removed from the acount or are you just trolling?


I missed
1) the part of the article where a teacher was arrested and convicted for theft.... It seems that the money was deposited.  Was the teacher the only person with access to the account?  Did the teacher actually deposit the money or was she directed to give it to the school administration?

Almost every school I've dealt with as an employee or as a parent of a child had policies in place were teachers weren't allowed to handle money, instead it was handed over to the administration.

This is what happened to that money at my son's high school...(Even better article...she really got gangsta to start stealing the cash)  And just like now, the teachers were being hauled over the coals for the missing cash until a secretary set up a webcam.

2) I missed the part where "account" was spelled "acount"
 
2013-06-21 01:41:02 PM
Hmm....get a program that pays hadicapped students to work, have them withdraw funds, and give them to you under some pretext you made up.

/profit.
//way to stay classy.
 
2013-06-21 01:42:51 PM

Richard C Stanford: IdBeCrazyIf: So student gets paid for work, teacher has student withdraw money to never be seen again, and because its income under the law and mom never knew her SSI benefits are now at risk

I know as a society we have moved passed public punishment, but this asshole needs to be locked in stocks and fruit thrown at him.

I'm thinking coconuts

Nah, durians.


Ooooo good one
 
2013-06-21 01:44:15 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: So student gets paid for work, teacher has student withdraw money to never be seen again, and because its income under the law and mom never knew her SSI benefits are now at risk

I know as a society we have moved passed public punishment, but this asshole needs to be locked in stocks and fruit thrown at him.

I'm thinking coconuts


I vote for throwing bowling balls, that's a fruit right?
 
2013-06-21 01:49:23 PM

maddogdelta: ChaosStar: Did you miss the part of the article where the retarded kid gave the money to the teacher after it was removed from the acount or are you just trolling?

I missed
1) the part of the article where a teacher was arrested and convicted for theft.... It seems that the money was deposited.  Was the teacher the only person with access to the account?  Did the teacher actually deposit the money or was she directed to give it to the school administration?

2) I missed the part where "account" was spelled "acount"


Your reading ability needs some work there fella.
FTFA She said according to her daughter, the students were brought to the credit union and assisted with making withdrawals.
"So I asked her what did you do with the money that you withdrew?"
The answer: Her daughter gave it to the teacher.


You know a withdrawal is the opposite of a deposit right? Yeah but taking disabled students to the bank, having them withdraw money from an account the parents have no idea exists, and then taking it from them sure does sound legit.
Did you miss when I correctly typed illiterate farkwad when I called you an illiterate farkwad?
/you illiterate farkwad
 
2013-06-21 01:54:37 PM

strangeluck: IdBeCrazyIf: So student gets paid for work, teacher has student withdraw money to never be seen again, and because its income under the law and mom never knew her SSI benefits are now at risk

I know as a society we have moved passed public punishment, but this asshole needs to be locked in stocks and fruit thrown at him.

I'm thinking coconuts

I vote for throwing bowling balls, that's a fruit right?


imagine what one could do with a bushel of corn
 
2013-06-21 02:00:20 PM

ChaosStar: /you illiterate farkwad


I still didn't see where
1) the teacher was arrested and convicted.  Can you show me, or are you an illiterate farkwad who can't read the article
2) the teacher didn't turn the money over to an administrator
 
2013-06-21 02:01:54 PM

maddogdelta: ChaosStar: /you illiterate farkwad

I still didn't see where
1) the teacher was arrested and convicted.  Can you show me, or are you an illiterate farkwad who can't read the article
2) the teacher didn't turn the money over to an administrator


Does it hurt you to be this stupid?
 
2013-06-21 02:10:56 PM

ChaosStar: Does it hurt you to be this stupid?


Third time:

Where in the article does it say that a teacher was: (I'll make it big so that you can read it)

ARRESTED AND CONVICTED


Please, I'm dying to know.
 
2013-06-21 02:11:14 PM
This is my local school.  Here's a link to the Rockville Patch article.
 
2013-06-21 03:01:55 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


And why isn't that a valid concern? She needs that money to care for her daughter.
 
2013-06-21 03:05:31 PM

maddogdelta: ChaosStar: Does it hurt you to be this stupid?

Third time:

Where in the article does it say that a teacher was: (I'll make it big so that you can read it)

ARRESTED AND CONVICTED

Please, I'm dying to know.



Dude, this is breaking news with an ongoing investigation.  Nobody has been arrested YET.  Do you normally have trouble with temporal issues like this?

The fact that W2s were sent to the school, in the kids' names, is damning evidence.  Somebody on the school staff was doing this.
 
2013-06-21 03:08:50 PM

AndreMA: Uh, this is way into "police investigating" territory with embezzlement and identity theft on the table for openers.


My thoughts exactly.  I've had some interactions that did not rise to the same level of criminality for my son's school but a crime had been committed (by a staff member).  They when with the we're investigating so you cannot do anything or nor can we tell you anything.    My response was a very overly sarcastic "That's real sweat that you think this is something you can control and I'm very proud of your can do attitude.  But you really have one choice right now.  Are you going to call the police here in my presence or will I be calling the police and then all our local TV stations?  Because aside from the obvious difference in chain of affects, there is an additional one where I lawyer up and set them to 'Vaporize.'   And I call all the disability advocacy organizations because while they are really good,sweet loving people that are trying to help people that need it they are still human and might find taking part in the evisceration of the reputation of a school administrator or two cathartic."  In a rare turn of event and common sense for school administrators they chose to call right then.

It ended up being pleaded down to a gross misdemeanor, 10 days and 6 months probation.  The mean old bastard that had done the act was allowed to retire early (so it cost him for a long time but did not ruin him) and he was ordered to stay 1000 ft from his former students.  I considered that fair and reasonable.
 
2013-06-21 03:11:46 PM

rkiller1: The mother's concern is not that her daughter got cheated but that she may lose her welfare check.


No, that's just righteous window-dressing.  "I want to be totally honest with Social Security!"  It's really about the cash withdrawals.

Seriously, her daughter needs SSI for college when she can't even fill out a timesheet?
 
2013-06-21 03:14:33 PM
that should have read They went with "the we're investigating so you cannot do anything or nor can we tell you anything" route.  sigh
and sweet not sweat...

Sigh, read what I mean, not what I typed?
 
2013-06-21 03:15:10 PM

FrancoFile: maddogdelta: ChaosStar: Does it hurt you to be this stupid?

Third time:

Where in the article does it say that a teacher was: (I'll make it big so that you can read it)

ARRESTED AND CONVICTED

Please, I'm dying to know.


Dude, this is breaking news with an ongoing investigation.  Nobody has been arrested YET.  Do you normally have trouble with temporal issues like this?

The fact that W2s were sent to the school, in the kids' names, is damning evidence.  Somebody on the school staff was doing this.


Aha! Now we are getting somewhere.  Did you see the headline?  You know, the one everyone laughs at?  I'll recap:  "Usually it's the playground bully who takes your lunch money, not your teachers"

Not staff, not administration, not the custodians, not the teacher's aid looking to buy food for the week.  TEACHERS.

And my posts were my way of pointing out that it looks like the pendulum has swung a little since teachers were regarded as heroes.  Now, teachers are again those evildoing thieves who are out to suck everyone's blood.

So, thank you for playing right along with that and joining Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the "educashun is evul!" brigade.
 
2013-06-21 03:23:51 PM

maddogdelta: Not staff, not administration, not the custodians, not the teacher's aid looking to buy food for the week.  TEACHERS.



Sitting at her kitchen table, the mother motioned toward her daughter, explaining she wouldn't be able to fill a time sheet out on her own. She said according to her daughter, the students were brought to the credit union and assisted with making withdrawals.

"So I asked her what did you do with the money that you withdrew?"

The answer: Her daughter gave it to the teacher. With raised eyebrows, the mother recounted the conversation.


I find your assumption that a big bad meany administrator made the teacher absurd especially in view of the text of the article, but fine lets go there. Just because you are ordered to commit a crime does not mean you have to do so.  And unless they are threatening death of you and yours, you are stillculpable.  As this is the person who has taken on theresponsibility for the care of special needs children they get to shoulder an even higher bar.  And since if this was really the case the teacher would be looking at opening the windows for advancement by contacting the police to do their thing and remove this evil administrator they fail at logic apparently too.

I concur that most school administrator I've met are pinchbeck caesar's.  And most of them were also former teachers.
 
2013-06-21 03:24:28 PM
FTFA:

"So I asked her what did you do with the money that you withdrew?"

The answer: Her daughter gave it to the teacher. With raised eyebrows, the mother recounted the conversation.
 
2013-06-21 03:24:35 PM

maddogdelta: FrancoFile: maddogdelta: ChaosStar: Does it hurt you to be this stupid?

Third time:

Where in the article does it say that a teacher was: (I'll make it big so that you can read it)

ARRESTED AND CONVICTED

Please, I'm dying to know.


Dude, this is breaking news with an ongoing investigation.  Nobody has been arrested YET.  Do you normally have trouble with temporal issues like this?

The fact that W2s were sent to the school, in the kids' names, is damning evidence.  Somebody on the school staff was doing this.

Aha! Now we are getting somewhere.  Did you see the headline?  You know, the one everyone laughs at?  I'll recap:  "Usually it's the playground bully who takes your lunch money, not your teachers"

Not staff, not administration, not the custodians, not the teacher's aid looking to buy food for the week.  TEACHERS.

And my posts were my way of pointing out that it looks like the pendulum has swung a little since teachers were regarded as heroes.  Now, teachers are again those evildoing thieves who are out to suck everyone's blood.

So, thank you for playing right along with that and joining Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the "educashun is evul!" brigade.



Oh spare us all the outrage.  There is no practical distinction between teaching staff and non-teaching staff at a special needs school.  These are people placed in a position of trust and authority over a vulnerable population.  They violated that trust.

What if the headline said "educational professional"?  Would that soothe your tender feelings?  Is there that much internecine warfare in your industry that you feel the need to draw that distinction?  Is it not that case that teacher's aides often go on to become teachers, and that both teaching and non-teaching staff often go on to become administrators?

And that's great logical technique you're using, too.  Do you show your students how to use sophistry and other logical fallacies?
 
2013-06-21 03:30:20 PM
damn, three of us in 44 seconds.  Not a simul-post but dang.
 
2013-06-21 03:35:15 PM
FrancoFile:
What if the headline said "educational professional"?  Would that soothe your tender feelings?  Is there that much internecine warfare in your industry that you feel the need to draw that distinction?  Is it not that case that teacher's aides often go on to become teachers, and that both teaching and non-teaching staff often go on to become administrators?

Actually, that would be better.  And did you know that sometimes people flapping burgers sometimes become lawyers, and haberdashers sometimes go on to become politicians?  It doesn't really matter what somebody used to be when you want to slander an entire profession.  If the administrator used to be a teacher, does that make the teachers evil?  Or is the administrator an administrator because they couldn't handle teaching, and now they are abusing their power.

And it isn't internecine warfare.  It is a whole society that has seemed to decide that teachers are the chief cause of everyone's problems.   And sometimes, I get a little sick of it.

I do try to teach kids that words are important, because they convey meaning. And imprecise use of words will improperly convey the wrong meaning.  Like when people are claiming that it was definitely the kid's teacher that stole the money.  With about as much evidence presented in the article as was presented against Amanda Knox.  The police are saying that the investigation is ongoing.  Tell me what source you have that indicates a different situation.

But, if words aren't that isn't important in your world, I guess that's ok.  For you.
 
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