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(Washington Post)   Thanks a lot, Superman. Your battle over Metropolis killed 129,000 people and will cost $2 trillion   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 188
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2013-06-21 12:04:54 PM  
Superman, you're a dick.
 
2013-06-21 12:12:45 PM  
It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

www.womansday.com
 
2013-06-21 12:25:47 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.


He could have led Zod into the desert but that would have been boring.
 
2013-06-21 12:37:46 PM  

Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

He could have led Zod into the desert but that would have been boring.


He tried, Zod kept bringing the battle back to metropolis.

Perhaps a reminder that A majority of died because of the Kryptonian World engine. And that all Of Earth would be destroyed had Superman not stopped it.
 
2013-06-21 12:55:31 PM  
www.comicsgrid.com

Thanks Obama
 
2013-06-21 12:59:31 PM  
...or is this better
static.comicvine.com

Thanks Obama
 
2013-06-21 01:21:33 PM  
photos.imageevent.com
 
2013-06-21 01:24:19 PM  
Where does one get a job who's output has no measurable impact on anything?
 
2013-06-21 01:39:44 PM  
But seriously, saw it last night. If you are making a comic book movie, it should be fun. 'Man of Steel' was not fun. It ain't the kind of movie you are talking about seeing again 20 minutes after you leave the theatre either.
 
2013-06-21 01:44:36 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Where does one get a job who's output has no measurable impact on anything?


English teacher at your elementary school?
 
2013-06-21 01:46:55 PM  
I love the contrast to the "mere" $160 billion in damage the Avengers battle did to Manhattan.

Because Metropolis is totally a real city.
 
2013-06-21 01:47:19 PM  
On a related note, I hated seeing Dr Doom in the 9/11 tribute comic shedding a tear. Dude blows up ten times that shiat every day. What, is he sad he didn't do it?
 
2013-06-21 01:51:38 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]


FYI: All DC characters... and one Spider-Man photobomber.

/DC comics are boring by default. Superman is their king of overpowered mediocrity.
//Fun Fact: Marvel vs. Capcom 3 was originally going to be Marvel vs. DC. It never got off the whiteboard when DC, allergic to fame and money, told them that they were already in meetings to make MK vs. DC - possibly the biggest steaming pile of crashes, hangs and glitches I've ever played. Fallout: New Vegas is more stable.
 
2013-06-21 01:53:19 PM  
THE AVENGERS: WE DO IT BETTER, WE DO IT FOR LESS.

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Call us for your next extraterrestrial invasion. Bonded and Licensed in New York State.
 
2013-06-21 01:53:35 PM  

Fano: On a related note, I hated seeing Dr Doom in the 9/11 tribute comic shedding a tear. Dude blows up ten times that shiat every day. What, is he sad he didn't do it?



It was a photo-op recommended by his PR firm. They said he needed to be seen acting more 'human and relatable'.

Doom promptly executed them after there was no appreciable jump in his ratings and Public Relations Manager is now an outlawed profession in Latveria.

/Kingpin using his connections to get aid to the city was completely appropriate and totally awesome at the same time
 
2013-06-21 01:53:43 PM  

gopher321: It ain't the kind of movie you are talking about seeing again 20 minutes after you leave the theatre either.


Saw it twice, have no complaints.
Everyone campaigned in the previous movies that Superman fought no super battles, now he does and everyone still complains.
(As a comic book geek, realized long ago that it's good there are no super heroes and villains)
 
2013-06-21 01:53:53 PM  

gopher321: But seriously, saw it last night. If you are making a comic book movie, it should be fun. 'Man of Steel' was not fun. It ain't the kind of movie you are talking about seeing again 20 minutes after you leave the theatre either.


Completely disagree. I wanted to see it again and already have. It was even better the second time. It has it's flaws, but not being "fun" isn't one of them.

Would go again today if someone would watch my 3 yr olds for me.
 
2013-06-21 01:53:59 PM  
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  But it would have been less interesting if nothing blew up.
 
2013-06-21 01:54:30 PM  
How much was the Transformers damage in Chicago
 
2013-06-21 01:55:13 PM  
World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.
 
2013-06-21 01:55:27 PM  
How can you justify destroying a $7 million dollar mini-mall to rescue a girl whose ransom was only $25,000 dollars?
 
2013-06-21 01:58:36 PM  

Supercampion: Indian Ocean and Metropolis?


And it was daytime in both locations.
 
2013-06-21 01:59:04 PM  

Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.


Destroying the one in metropolis wouldn't have done anything to the world engine. Destroying the world engine stopped the destruction in both places and stopped the continued terraforming of the planet.

Your complaint is invalid.
 
2013-06-21 01:59:42 PM  

wjllope: Supercampion: Indian Ocean and Metropolis?

And it was daytime in both locations.


Didn't even pick up on that. COMPLETE DISASTER OF A MOVIE
 
2013-06-21 02:01:32 PM  

Supercampion: Didn't even pick up on that. COMPLETE DISASTER OF A MOVIE


heh - no - i liked it very much. Just something I happened to notice....
 
2013-06-21 02:03:04 PM  

QT_3.14159: Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.

Destroying the one in metropolis wouldn't have done anything to the world engine. Destroying the world engine stopped the destruction in both places and stopped the continued terraforming of the planet.

Your complaint is invalid.


Citation needed.
 
2013-06-21 02:04:35 PM  
What an a$$hole.
 
2013-06-21 02:04:42 PM  

wjllope: Supercampion: Didn't even pick up on that. COMPLETE DISASTER OF A MOVIE

heh - no - i liked it very much. Just something I happened to notice....


I noticed it the second time through, but I think it was pre-dawn, first light in the Indian Ocean and late in the day mid summer (the crops were growing in KS), so it probably wasn't off by that much... Though it should have been getting dark in Metropolis by the end of the Supes/Zod fight and it wasn't.
 
2013-06-21 02:06:05 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

He could have led Zod into the desert but that would have been boring.

He tried, Zod kept bringing the battle back to metropolis.

Perhaps a reminder that A majority of died because of the Kryptonian World engine. And that all Of Earth would be destroyed had Superman not stopped it.


Spoilery!!!

What got me was he was apparently strong enough to snap Zod's neck at any time but decided against it until Z man was about to fry a couple of cowering civilians. No consideration given to the tens of thousands he killed with that gravity thumper, screw those guys, but try to off those three people? Okay Zod that's enough! CRACK! WTF?
 
2013-06-21 02:06:37 PM  

Supercampion: QT_3.14159: Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.

Destroying the one in metropolis wouldn't have done anything to the world engine. Destroying the world engine stopped the destruction in both places and stopped the continued terraforming of the planet.

Your complaint is invalid.

Citation needed.


It's in there when they're talking about what the World Engines do. Also, taking out the one in the Indian Ocean stopped the one in Metropolis.
 
2013-06-21 02:07:59 PM  

perigee: THE AVENGERS: WE DO IT BETTER, WE DO IT FOR LESS.
[img.fark.net image 850x717]

Call us for your next extraterrestrial invasion. Bonded and Licensed in New York State.


This is the best you could do? Not like, you know, an actual picture of movie's characters?
 
2013-06-21 02:10:05 PM  
I actually think it's a great starting off point for the sequel.

Lex Luthor hold Superman responsible for all those deaths - including the deaths of everybody who worked for him at LexCorp.  (Flashbacks would show his building being completely destroyed in the brawl.)
 
2013-06-21 02:11:21 PM  

xalres: Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

He could have led Zod into the desert but that would have been boring.

He tried, Zod kept bringing the battle back to metropolis.

Perhaps a reminder that A majority of died because of the Kryptonian World engine. And that all Of Earth would be destroyed had Superman not stopped it.

Spoilery!!!

What got me was he was apparently strong enough to snap Zod's neck at any time but decided against it until Z man was about to fry a couple of cowering civilians. No consideration given to the tens of thousands he killed with that gravity thumper, screw those guys, but try to off those three people? Okay Zod that's enough! CRACK! WTF?


See, this bothered me at first, too, but after thinking about it, I think a lot of the destruction is a direct result of having learned to filter out his senses for so long. Once the people have faces, they must be protected at all costs. Also, I think that's when he came to the realization that Zod wouldnt ever stop, just to punish him.

Don't get me wrong, I'd have liked to have seen him be effected by the destruction and have his grief and rage build over the sequences, but in the end, it worked.
 
2013-06-21 02:17:01 PM  

gopher321: But seriously, saw it last night. If you are making a comic book movie, it should be fun. 'Man of Steel' was not fun. It ain't the kind of movie you are talking about seeing again 20 minutes after you leave the theatre either.


Actually, I did exactly that.  Going to see it again this weekend.
 
2013-06-21 02:20:41 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Everyone campaigned in the previous movies that Superman fought no super battles, now he does and everyone still complains.
(As a comic book geek, realized long ago that it's good there are no super heroes and villains)


it's almost as if the people who complain about comic book movies just like the attention that they get for whining and can't actually be pleased...but that couldn't be the case, could it??? (sarcasm)
 
2013-06-21 02:22:59 PM  

Fano: On a related note, I hated seeing Dr Doom in the 9/11 tribute comic shedding a tear. Dude blows up ten times that shiat every day. What, is he sad he didn't do it?


Doom doesn't need to justify his emotions to you. Doom is a complex individual.
 
2013-06-21 02:28:15 PM  

Fano: On a related note, I hated seeing Dr Doom in the 9/11 tribute comic shedding a tear. Dude blows up ten times that shiat every day. What, is he sad he didn't do it?


Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh, that seemed (to say the least) forced. Doom wants to conquer the friggin' world and/or get the best of Reed Richards.
 
2013-06-21 02:31:33 PM  

xalres: What got me was he was apparently strong enough to snap Zod's neck at any time but decided against it until Z man was about to fry a couple of cowering civilians. No consideration given to the tens of thousands he killed with that gravity thumper, screw those guys, but try to off those three people? Okay Zod that's enough! CRACK! WTF?


Also:  If Zod's as strong as Superman, Superman couldn't have broken his neck unless he caught him in an advantageous position...right?
 
2013-06-21 02:32:40 PM  
I recall the Director saying something like: "What would really happen if two superpowered beings fought in a major city?"  So, yeah.
 
2013-06-21 02:33:31 PM  

QT_3.14159: wjllope: Supercampion: Didn't even pick up on that. COMPLETE DISASTER OF A MOVIE

heh - no - i liked it very much. Just something I happened to notice....

I noticed it the second time through, but I think it was pre-dawn, first light in the Indian Ocean and late in the day mid summer (the crops were growing in KS), so it probably wasn't off by that much... Though it should have been getting dark in Metropolis by the end of the Supes/Zod fight and it wasn't.


All depends what part of the Indian Ocean. Rottnest Island (day trip for Aussies in Perth and Fremantle, home of the quokkas) and Garden Island (home of the Royal Australian Navy's largest fleet base, Fleet Base West) are, within a few miles of the antipode of Bermuda.

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Unless it's sun up / sun down in both, one is light when the other is dark. And New York is only 750 miles from Bermuda, so it's not much different (an hour or so).
 
2013-06-21 02:35:56 PM  

xalres: What got me was he was apparently strong enough to snap Zod's neck at any time but decided against it until Z man was about to fry a couple of cowering civilians. No consideration given to the tens of thousands he killed with that gravity thumper, screw those guys, but try to off those three people? Okay Zod that's enough! CRACK! WTF?


Superman's always been pretty callous about collateral damage and damage in actual battle, about half the time his foes survive by magical comic-book-powered good luck, sometimes suspension-of-disbelief breaking in magnitude, and it's clear that even if he's holding back he's pretty much trying to kill them and trusting them to magically prevent actual death.

Actually outright murdering people in cold blood is sort of where he draws the line, though.  It's not that comic-book superman hates killing, he hates actually manning up and making a  decision to kill someone.

This isn't really a problem, because superhero comics are built around the assumption that their audience are young teenagers at the oldest and stuff that happens off-screen doesn't count.  It only usually comes up when the heroes get exceptionally pompous about their bullshiat preservation of life line and force the reader to actually think about it.  If the hero of the book isn't thinking about it, though, the target audience generally doesn't either.
 
2013-06-21 02:38:35 PM  

Rwa2play: Fano: On a related note, I hated seeing Dr Doom in the 9/11 tribute comic shedding a tear. Dude blows up ten times that shiat every day. What, is he sad he didn't do it?

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh, that seemed (to say the least) forced. Doom wants to conquer the friggin' world and/or get the best of Reed Richards.


"There is nothing wrong with wanting to rule the world. It's all about how you do it." ~ Stan Lee, regarding why Doom is more anti-hero than outright villain. He's the epitome of the Byronic Hero.

/Oh, yeah, and in Doom 2099 his entire machinations of taking over the United States works - he sets up a clone regenerator in Alaska, walks out of it in a new body as a new being... and an American citizen. Runs for President... WINS.

Actually is proven right: America becomes a Utopia. Under Doom's hand. It's also the de facto 'end' of the 2099 storylines that were all tangled together in the books.
 
2013-06-21 02:39:12 PM  

JonBuck: I recall the Director saying something like: "What would really happen if two superpowered beings fought in a major city?"  So, yeah.


Seriously. I'm repeating myself, but the fight scene at the end is basically the same as the 'world of cardboard' fight, which everyone gets a hard on for.
 
2013-06-21 02:40:49 PM  

Rwa2play: Also:  If Zod's as strong as Superman, Superman couldn't have broken his neck unless he caught him in an advantageous position...right?


Well humans snap other humans' necks, right? I know they do, I've seen 80s cop movies. So if the strengths are comparable, I don't see any logistical problems there.

As for super heroes killing people, as Batman said in The Dark Knight Returns, he murdered countless people by letting the Joker live. Or he could have anonymously sent a few million to Arkham for a better security system.
 
2013-06-21 02:40:51 PM  

Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.


Because, if you actually paid attention, the World Engine was the source of the destruction in both Metropolis and the World.  Only Superman could have destroyed it and stopped it.

The Army had the job of getting rid of the  Phantom Zone ship.

One of the things I loved about the movie is that the Army and Superman worked TOGETHER.  It wasn't Superman doing all the saving.
 
2013-06-21 02:40:52 PM  

Jackpot777: All depends what part of the Indian Ocean.


Well, talking Metropolis to be NYC, and using this:
http://www.antipodr.com/?addr=NYC&x=0&y=0
then it looks like the location in the Indian Ocean is 105.994 deg E and -40.714 deg S...

Southwest of Perth
 
2013-06-21 02:42:54 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: It looks like Metropolis is still doing OK.

He could have led Zod into the desert but that would have been boring.

He tried, Zod kept bringing the battle back to metropolis.

Perhaps a reminder that A majority of died because of the Kryptonian World engine. And that all Of Earth would be destroyed had Superman not stopped it.


???  I only remember 1 time where they were outside of Metropolis, and that was when they smacked into the satellite.  But besides that, it didn't seem like Superman was even trying to take the fight outside of Metropolis.
 
2013-06-21 02:43:59 PM  
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It's been done before
 
2013-06-21 02:44:25 PM  

Supercampion: QT_3.14159: Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.

Destroying the one in metropolis wouldn't have done anything to the world engine. Destroying the world engine stopped the destruction in both places and stopped the continued terraforming of the planet.

Your complaint is invalid.

Citation needed.


Oh the part where Superman says: "The World Engine is the source of the  gravity waves."

It's okay, I understand why you didn't like the movie.
 
2013-06-21 02:44:35 PM  

Supercampion: World Engine is where? Indian Ocean and Metropolis? Cool, I'll take the Indian Ocean part out first since its in the middle of nowhere and can't harm anyone directly and not worry about the other part in the middle of a densely populated city where all of the people are.


Pretty sure they said something about how if the one in Metropolis was destroyed first, the World Engine would continue to increase mass uncontrolled and create a singularity...or something.
 
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