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2013-06-21 09:58:32 AM  
Oh, those poor kids...
 
2013-06-21 10:08:04 AM  
Your tax dollars at work...
 
2013-06-21 10:10:31 AM  

gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...


Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?
 
2013-06-21 10:12:11 AM  

Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?


Link

Link
 
2013-06-21 10:12:14 AM  
Well, the Bachmanns and Gohmerts of the world have to get their start somewhere, I guess
 
2013-06-21 10:37:13 AM  
www.virginmedia.com

/oblig
 
2013-06-21 11:19:08 AM  
Fun Fact: Many hardcore fundamentalists will find this exhibit offensive since it contains reference to non-christian, heathen/pagan cultures. Also...

Evolutionists struggle to explain the intriguing evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

Actually, no. No they don't.
 
2013-06-21 11:20:53 AM  

gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link


Oh...

wow.
 
2013-06-21 11:22:45 AM  
I'd like to see this one full-size.

www.answersingenesis.org
 
2013-06-21 11:35:53 AM  

kid_icarus: Fun Fact: Many hardcore fundamentalists will find this exhibit offensive since it contains reference to non-christian, heathen/pagan cultures. Also...

Evolutionists struggle to understand people who think that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

Actually, no. No they don't.


Fixed it so it makes sense.
 
2013-06-21 12:32:59 PM  
There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.
 
2013-06-21 12:36:13 PM  

FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.


Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.
 
2013-06-21 12:45:07 PM  
So they added a fantasy exhibit, just like all the other exhibits in their museum.
 
2013-06-21 12:48:24 PM  

gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.


Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.
 
2013-06-21 12:50:10 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.


Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.
 
2013-06-21 12:53:19 PM  

gimmegimme: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.


The Coelacanth is a fish, not a dinosaur.  Many people have seen dinosaurs, and some even claim to have eaten dinosaur meat, but the media don't talk about it much.  It's an open secret among taxonomists though - they all know.
 
2013-06-21 12:53:24 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.


Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?
 
2013-06-21 12:54:43 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

The Coelacanth is a fish, not a dinosaur.  Many people have seen dinosaurs, and some even claim to have eaten dinosaur meat, but the media don't talk about it much.  It's an open secret among taxonomists though - they all know.


Ah, okay.  You're just crazy.
 
2013-06-21 12:54:56 PM  
Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)
 
2013-06-21 12:57:15 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


That was some top-notch work, I have to hand it to you.
+10
 
2013-06-21 01:05:01 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


Sorry to ruin it for you. :)
 
2013-06-21 01:07:18 PM  
Cythraul:

Sorry to ruin it for you. :)

S'alright.  I might still get a few nibbles.
 
2013-06-21 01:38:27 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Sorry to ruin it for you. :)

S'alright.  I might still get a few nibbles.


It made me smile, even though I knew where you were going. I was thinking along the same lines a few days ago after reading everything I could about seriemas and then going for a walk around the ponds and watching the egret while really high.

fark yeah, dinosaurs
 
2013-06-21 01:43:16 PM  

FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.


Sorry, no. You need to make an alt or be less well known to pull that off.
 
2013-06-21 01:44:20 PM  

kid_icarus: FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)

That was some top-notch work, I have to hand it to you.
+10


I agree, I have my preferences set to read the thread bottom up and had I had it the other way around I might have even bit that one
 
2013-06-21 01:45:23 PM  
gimmegimme:

Cythraul: Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link
Link


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-21 01:46:34 PM  
Regale yourself with delightful artwork and other beautiful adornments as you stroll beneath extraordinary Chinese dragons in the museum's portico.

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to regale myself in public.
 
2013-06-21 01:47:08 PM  
img.fark.net

Just look at this picture.  They think Jesus was white.
 
2013-06-21 01:47:08 PM  
The artwork is neat though!
 
2013-06-21 01:47:15 PM  
 
2013-06-21 01:47:35 PM  
I am pointing and laughing at podunky.
 
2013-06-21 01:48:12 PM  
But guys...guys...you guys...

They have ZIPLINES!

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 01:48:35 PM  
This is child abuse.
 
2013-06-21 01:49:42 PM  
You know, I like these kinds of threads.. because atheist or Christian... we all agree these people are idiots.
 
2013-06-21 01:50:05 PM  
Will Puff and Jackie Paper be there?
 
2013-06-21 01:50:13 PM  
Attendance tripled with the introduction of a realistic wax figure of some topless platinum blonde chick and her three pet dragons...
 
2013-06-21 01:51:16 PM  
Several educated people with flamethrowers could put a stop to this easily.
 
2013-06-21 01:51:20 PM  
So, evolution is a lie "from the pits of hell", but dragons are totes real, y'all.

If I'm ever near that part of the country,I'm taking a side trip to that "museum". I'll probably get my ass kicked out, but I so want to see the insanity in person. Especially the Jesus Ponies, er, dinosaurs.
 
2013-06-21 01:51:58 PM  
I'm not sure what's worse - that people actually believe this crap, or that taxpayers are funding this crap. Scratch that - what's worse is that taxpayers are funding this crap. That's just ridiculous.
 
2013-06-21 01:52:05 PM  

gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.


Yeah.  I'd kind of like to see some backup on that.  Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.
 
2013-06-21 01:53:40 PM  
Fark party/tour of that place needs to happen one day.
 
2013-06-21 01:54:12 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Sorry to ruin it for you. :)

S'alright.  I might still get a few nibbles.


Truly a pocket ninja worthy post.

/I bow to you sir
 
2013-06-21 01:54:23 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Sorry to ruin it for you. :)

S'alright.  I might still get a few nibbles.


I was hoping you'd get as far as the talking dinosaurs.
 
2013-06-21 01:54:43 PM  
gimme gimme gimmicky
 
2013-06-21 01:56:06 PM  
I AM NOT defending these nut jobs BUT it is very possible that myths of dragons originated in part from dinosaur bones found back when man was more superstitious then MOST folks are today.
 
2013-06-21 01:56:20 PM  
My father in law has an interesting theory about how the serpent in Genesis is really a dragon, which ties in to his interesting theory that the original sin is paternal cannibalism.
He makes a rather compelling argument with the evidence in the scriptures.
/not religious
//except during football season
 
2013-06-21 01:56:36 PM  
Creation museums remind me of an old Steve Martin comedy bit where he talks about intentionally raising your children to talk wrong so that they end up seeming like crazy nutbars on their first day of school.

http://youtu.be/40K6rApRnhQ
 
Ant
2013-06-21 01:56:51 PM  

make me some tea: Oh, those poor kids...


Child abuse.
 
2013-06-21 01:57:16 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


That was beautiful, my friend.

But seriously, how awesome is it to contemplate that, yes, there are dinosaurs out there all over the place, it just took us forever to actually figure out that no, they didn't go extinct as a group, they just changed enough that we clueless apes had trouble figuring it out.

To paraphrase XKCD, the fastest living animal is a flying dinosaur that hunts by divebombing other flying dinosaurs at over 100 mph, killing them on the wing.

This. is. awesome.

/And the subject of TFA are painfully clueless morons.
//sigh
 
2013-06-21 01:57:22 PM  
Someone in Kentucky should float the idea of a Muslim museum funded by taxpayer money, and see what happens. Should be good for a few laughs...
 
2013-06-21 01:57:39 PM  

ChaosStar: My father in law has an interesting theory about how the serpent in Genesis is really a dragon, which ties in to his interesting theory that the original sin is paternal cannibalism.
He makes a rather compelling argument with the evidence in the scriptures.
/not religious
//except during football season


So your father-in-law writes jesus fan-fiction?
 
2013-06-21 01:57:58 PM  

fireclown: gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

Yeah.  I'd kind of like to see some backup on that.  Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.


I'm not spoiling the thread since it's been outed already, but we're ALL hanging out with T-Rexes, right now. All birds are descended from theropods, of which T-Rex is one of the most recognizable.
 
2013-06-21 01:57:58 PM  

Delawheredad: I AM NOT defending these nut jobs BUT it is very possible that myths of dragons originated in part from dinosaur bones found back when man was more superstitious then MOST folks are today.


Also maybe when man was trippin on mushrooms, ergot fungus or other semi poisonous shamanic 'magic'
 
2013-06-21 01:59:58 PM  

MisterEZ: ChaosStar: My father in law has an interesting theory about how the serpent in Genesis is really a dragon, which ties in to his interesting theory that the original sin is paternal cannibalism.
He makes a rather compelling argument with the evidence in the scriptures.
/not religious
//except during football season

So your father-in-law writes jesus fan-fiction?


He's Jewish actually
So... no?
 
2013-06-21 02:00:22 PM  

fireclown: gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

Yeah.  I'd kind of like to see some backup on that.  Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.


Birds are dinosaurs.
 
2013-06-21 02:00:56 PM  

uncleacid: Will Puff and Jackie Paper be there?


They're stuck on Hannah Lee.
 
2013-06-21 02:00:57 PM  
There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.
 
2013-06-21 02:01:25 PM  

FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.


Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.
 
2013-06-21 02:02:06 PM  
Creationist museums are where put creationists and creationist material so that we can teach children about what's wrong with their crazy ideas and all learn from their many mistakes, right?
 
2013-06-21 02:02:40 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: So, evolution is a lie "from the pits of hell", but dragons are totes real, y'all.


The Bible speaks of dragons and sorcery and other fantastic things as real.
Kind of an important thing to keep in mind whenever considering it as a reliable source for...well, anything.
 
2013-06-21 02:02:47 PM  

gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.


I don't know, I had a gay old time just last night.
 
2013-06-21 02:03:09 PM  

FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.


So... what color would you like to be on my favorite's list?
 
2013-06-21 02:03:32 PM  

ChaosStar: MisterEZ: ChaosStar: My father in law has an interesting theory about how the serpent in Genesis is really a dragon, which ties in to his interesting theory that the original sin is paternal cannibalism.
He makes a rather compelling argument with the evidence in the scriptures.
/not religious
//except during football season

So your father-in-law writes jesus fan-fiction?

He's Jewish actually
So... no?


Religious fan-fic then.
 
2013-06-21 02:04:05 PM  
In comparison, if you want to see a rational, objective, fact-based discussion - you know, the underpinnings of science, just go check out the the politics tab. In Science We Trust, biatches, LoL!
 
2013-06-21 02:04:13 PM  

gimmegimme: Ah, okay. You're just crazy.


por-img.cimcontent.net

Just needed a little chum in the water...
 
2013-06-21 02:05:38 PM  

fireclown: gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

Yeah.  I'd kind of like to see some backup on that.  Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.


Dinosaurs like these ones.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:05:52 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: In comparison, if you want to see a rational, objective, fact-based discussion - you know, the underpinnings of science, just go check out the the politics tab. In Science We Trust, biatches, LoL!


If anyone is trying to use the contents of the Politics tab as a tool for teaching children, please let us know. We'll be happy to kneecap them.
 
2013-06-21 02:06:12 PM  

ciberido: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.


It's so damned tragic when people like to show off the fact that they can't be arsed to read through 50 comments, or even search the page for "Birds" before completely failing at life.

/Congrats FloydA .. You got one!
 
2013-06-21 02:06:39 PM  

make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.


Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.
 
2013-06-21 02:09:49 PM  

Ambitwistor: gimmegimme:

Cythraul: Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link
Link

[media.tumblr.com image 500x282]


Or don't want (if you are a clearer minded thinker) the Creationists to live on this planet anymore.

/with apologies to Douglas Adams
 
2013-06-21 02:13:24 PM  

Shadow Blasko: ciberido: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.

It's so damned tragic when people like to show off the fact that they can't be arsed to read through 50 comments, or even search the page for "Birds" before completely failing at life.


I post before reading the entire thread, yes.  I don't apologize for it.  If you think this means I "fail at life," well, I agree that one of us certainly does.
 
2013-06-21 02:13:41 PM  
Violent Soho - "Here Be Dragons" - Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orTC-tkDTB0


/take that fundies!
 
2013-06-21 02:13:46 PM  

FloydA: Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.


Well, his wife would probably agree.
 
2013-06-21 02:16:47 PM  
These people have gone full potato.
 
2013-06-21 02:17:15 PM  

Cythraul: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


www.riversturgeoncolumbia.com
o hai guiz!!!! wutz goin on in ths thread ??!
/rub my belly
 
2013-06-21 02:17:29 PM  

gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link



img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:18:33 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.


Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so
 
2013-06-21 02:21:08 PM  
Saw the billboard just last night and had a difficult time staying in my lane laughing too much.
 
2013-06-21 02:22:20 PM  

ciberido: Ambitwistor: gimmegimme:

Cythraul: Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link
Link

[media.tumblr.com image 500x282]

Or don't want (if you are a clearer minded thinker) the Creationists to live on this planet anymore.

/with apologies to Douglas Adams


What we need to do is build 3 arks, and put them on the B ark...
 
2013-06-21 02:22:45 PM  

make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.


Yeah, we're f*cked.
 
2013-06-21 02:22:46 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: So they added a fantasy exhibit, just like all the other exhibits in their museum.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:23:13 PM  

FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.


Indeed. Biology was different during that time and people could even smoke without any risks to their health. I also heard that wealth really did trickle down back then ;D
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:29:59 PM  

GhostFish: This is child abuse.


THIS.

FloydA: S'alright.  I might still get a few nibbles.


Subtle, apropos and entirely believable.  Very nicely done.
 
2013-06-21 02:31:40 PM  
Is it Ironic that a bunch of hillbilly Neanderthals are trying to convince us more advanced humans that Evolution doesn't exist?
 
2013-06-21 02:31:50 PM  
Also, that exhibit and this thread needs more Godzilla. Or is that something the heathen Japanese must renounce upon conversion?
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:33:20 PM  
"...biblical creationists are not surprised to uncover clues that ancient man had indeed seen these beasts."

What would surprise them? When you start your premise by assuming your conclusion is true, you won't be surprised when you conclusion agrees with your premise.
 
2013-06-21 02:35:36 PM  
www.blogcdn.com

One adult please.

/I have to laugh otherwise I'd cry.
/fark Kentucky.
 
2013-06-21 02:36:54 PM  
Is it wrong that I like the artwork?
 
2013-06-21 02:37:57 PM  
CGI is expensive.jpg
 
2013-06-21 02:39:35 PM  

Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.


I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.
 
2013-06-21 02:40:13 PM  
While this is amazingly ignorant and silly, I would love to see a good study on how dinosaur myths might be tied to ancient people's discovery of fossils and constructing the myths around them. I've always assumed that was the origin of them, since most dragon myths are diverse enough on their "stories" but consistent in their rendering ( and resemblance to dinosaur skeletal counterparts )
 
2013-06-21 02:42:01 PM  

Highroller48: Is it Ironic that a bunch of hillbilly Neanderthals are trying to convince us more advanced humans that Evolution doesn't exist?


They're proof of natural selection as it is apparent that they have failed to evolve with the rest of the world.
 
2013-06-21 02:42:25 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


Congratulations,  FloydA.
 
2013-06-21 02:43:49 PM  
Look up, here there still be dinos:

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:44:36 PM  
The fairytale museum...
 
2013-06-21 02:45:14 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


But there are reptilian humanoids living amongst us right now!
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 02:46:34 PM  
FloydA:
Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

It's true.  I really enjoyed his book "Guns, Germs, and Styracosaurs".

/not fooled.  I have you tagged as "biology punk".
 
2013-06-21 02:47:19 PM  
This kind of stuff makes Bill, Carl, and Neil cry into their beakers.
 
2013-06-21 02:48:19 PM  
chrylis:

I was hoping you'd get as far as the talking dinosaurs.

I think maybe some dinosaurs can talk.
 
2013-06-21 02:53:21 PM  
No Such Agency:

It's true.  I really enjoyed his book "Guns, Germs, and Styracosaurs".

/not fooled.  I have you tagged as "biology punk".



It was his "Geophagy in New Guinea Coelurosaurian Theropods" that most impressed me.  ;-)
 
2013-06-21 02:54:50 PM  

big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.


That's far from the point.
 
2013-06-21 02:55:18 PM  

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Look up, here there still be dinos:

[img.fark.net image 320x571]


The problem is that the creationists somehow twist that cool and interesting (and perfectly logical) factoid into proof that the earth is four weeks years old and that man and dinosaurs lived along side one another just last Tuesday. The insanity of mankind truly knows no bounds. :(
 
2013-06-21 02:58:22 PM  
I saw this on my way to downtown Cincinnati, and  posting it to fark was my first thought.

Considering how expensive that place is  ($35 tickets I think), I've ruled out going there for my own amusement.  Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.
 
2013-06-21 03:01:59 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


Damnitsomuch.

Good work.
 
2013-06-21 03:02:50 PM  
Jubeebee:

It made me smile, even though I knew where you were going. I was thinking along the same lines a few days ago after reading everything I could about seriemas and then going for a walk around the ponds and watching the egret while really high.

fark yeah, dinosaurs


KiltedBastich:

That was beautiful, my friend.

But seriously, how awesome is it to contemplate that, yes, there are dinosaurs out there all over the place, it just took us forever to actually figure out that no, they didn't go extinct as a group, they just changed enough that we clueless apes had trouble figuring it out.


ciberido:

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.


Thanks guys; you're why I love Fark.  I can make some silly science joke and I know that someone's going to get it. :-)

I was sitting on the porch the other day, watching a crow figure out how to open a tied shut plastic bag on my neighbor's porch, and it really struck me how absolutely amazing Theorpods really are.
 
2013-06-21 03:03:45 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


Some of them may have hung around a little later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene_dinosaurs

But still long gone before humans
 
2013-06-21 03:05:02 PM  

mudpants: Saw the billboard just last night and had a difficult time staying in my lane laughing too much.


I did a doubletake too

/drive by it everyday on my way to work
//the light up christmas dinos on the lawn make me giggle every year
///slashies
 
2013-06-21 03:06:26 PM  

Jument: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Look up, here there still be dinos:

[img.fark.net image 320x571]

The problem is that the creationists somehow twist that cool and interesting (and perfectly logical) factoid into proof that the earth is four weeks years old and that man and dinosaurs lived along side one another just last Tuesday. The insanity of mankind truly knows no bounds. :(


They also twist the text and spirit of their own text to justify discrimination, abuse of other people, and various other not "loving thy neighbor as thyself" behaviors... If only they were right about the dinosaurs, there would be some hope of giant murder-birds flying the skies to pluck them off the face of the planet... Alas, to dream.
 
2013-06-21 03:06:31 PM  

kid_icarus: Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so

Congratulations,  FloydA.



img.fark.net
img.fark.net


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 03:07:17 PM  
Is this a photoshop contest?
 
2013-06-21 03:07:48 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.


Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.
 
2013-06-21 03:10:24 PM  
TheGogmagog:
Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think)

If you're going to run a con on religious people, set it at the high price points they're accustomed to paying for nonsense.  A cheap con will cause them to doubt your sincerity (as well as allowing access to the poors, who they try to avoid at all times).
 
2013-06-21 03:11:33 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


Regarding oxygen content being a limiting factor, you are wrong.

Even though he was trolling, you should never be wrong when trying to debunk creationism.

Insects were limited, not creatures with lungs. Otherwise blue whales couldn't exist.
 
2013-06-21 03:13:10 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


I was hoping you'd created another "streetlight" thread.
 
2013-06-21 03:13:37 PM  

Highroller48: Is it Ironic that a bunch of hillbilly Neanderthals are trying to convince us more advanced humans that Evolution doesn't exist?


No such thing as more advanced with respect to evolution.
 
2013-06-21 03:14:40 PM  

ciberido: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.


I prefer to call them chicken abortions.
 
2013-06-21 03:14:46 PM  

FloydA: I was sitting on the porch the other day, watching a crow figure out how to open a tied shut plastic bag on my neighbor's porch, and it really struck me how absolutely amazing Theorpods really are.


Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human, including abstraction and language abilities.

If they can do that with that little brain, I find myself seriously wondering what it could do with a brain scaled up in size and complexity to near our own.
 
2013-06-21 03:17:21 PM  

TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Then she still has made a choice.
 
2013-06-21 03:20:40 PM  
Dragons, huh?

Big deal. My rogue got a title for stabbing one in the spine back in 2012.
 
2013-06-21 03:22:57 PM  
KiltedBastich:

Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human, including abstraction and language abilities.

If they can do that with that little brain, I find myself seriously wondering what it could do with a brain scaled up in size and complexity to near our own.


Build a museum in Kentucky?
 
2013-06-21 03:25:43 PM  

TheGogmagog: Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think), I've ruled out going there for my own amusement. Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Honest question: How do you marry someone and not know that about them beforehand?
 
2013-06-21 03:26:10 PM  

KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.


FTFY
 
2013-06-21 03:26:32 PM  

FloydA: Build a museum in Kentucky?


Considering how very little brain that appears to require, I don't think that would be much of a challenge.
 
2013-06-21 03:27:22 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


I think you mean primates. Hominids are at like 11:59.59 pm. Last 2 million years or so.

Anyway, the oxygen thing is interesting. I know that currently theory says that a Jurassic asteroid impact likely wiped the Earth clean of most large creatures, but I wonder if that also some either somehow sequestered and/or blasted enough O2 out into space to affect the course of animal life? Or whether O2 was already on a downhill decline and then this happened? Huh.
 
2013-06-21 03:28:17 PM  

megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.


You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker
 
2013-06-21 03:28:26 PM  

KiltedBastich: FloydA: Build a museum in Kentucky?

Considering how very little brain that appears to require, I don't think that would be much of a challenge.


Oh they use their brains alright, it's just a shame that it's full of f*ck instead of the good stuff, but hey whatever.
 
2013-06-21 03:28:33 PM  

TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Well, take away any and all medications, and see how she likes the whole creationism side of things if she thinks it doesn't matter.
 
2013-06-21 03:29:21 PM  

Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY


Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.
 
2013-06-21 03:29:36 PM  

big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.


A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.
 
2013-06-21 03:30:12 PM  

megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.


Also, I'm stalking you Zimmerman style
 
2013-06-21 03:32:34 PM  

KiltedBastich: Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY

Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.


Have you seen their sales? .  Ugh, I usually hate going for the easy anti-religion joke, but I couldn't help myself
 
2013-06-21 03:35:58 PM  
New exhibit at Creation Museum Here There Be  Dragons Idiots..
 
2013-06-21 03:42:59 PM  
Some of the dragon myths were probably inspired by finding dinosaur bones, but the original "dragon" stories from Europe were most likely exaggerated tales of actual large snakes, such as pythons, and king cobras.   In early bestiaries, dragons were described as being the enemy of elephants.  They were described as "killing anything caught in it's coils", like a constrictor, and living in India, and Ethiopia.   See:
http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast262.htm

The basilisk a creature that could supposedly kill by a glance may have been a corruption of the reports of another actual snake, the spitting cobra.
 
2013-06-21 03:43:02 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 03:44:50 PM  
Apparently every once in a while they crank up the stupid to appeal to more of their base.
 
2013-06-21 03:45:39 PM  

Mr.Tangent: New exhibit at Creation Museum Here There Be  Dragons Idiots..


That's not an exhibit, that's the permanent collection...
 
2013-06-21 03:48:08 PM  

give me doughnuts: big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.

A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.


...incentives aren't subsidies? A subsidy is a reduction of cost to encourage something to happen. So... a rebate of 25% of sales tax on capital costs is pretty much exactly what a subsidy is. If BobCo isn't taxed as much as AliceCo but they ostensibly do similar things, then BobCo is being subsidized. What's worse is that it's the government subsidizing a religious institution. Do they give any new museum that kind of tax incentive?
 
2013-06-21 04:03:44 PM  
Oh my, this would be a fun PS contest : )

i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-21 04:08:07 PM  

Pitabred: ...incentives aren't subsidies?


In this case, no. Everyone is all "Ehrmagerd! Terx merneies go to Erk Perk!"
No funds are being paid to the creation museum, or this ark thing. They aren't getting any state money, they simply don't have to pay as much.

"Tax subsidy" and tax "incentive" are used interchangably, which is somewhat inaccurate.
sub·si·dize/ˈsəbsəˌdīz/VerbSupport (an organization or activity) financially.Pay part of the cost of producing (something) to reduce prices for the buyer.
 
2013-06-21 04:10:55 PM  

KiltedBastich: Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY

Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.


You can invent any exhibit at Creation Museum. The only limit is yourself.
 
2013-06-21 04:20:44 PM  

kid_icarus: Fun Fact: Many hardcore fundamentalists will find this exhibit offensive since it contains reference to non-christian, heathen/pagan cultures. Also...

Evolutionists struggle to explain the intriguing evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

Actually, no. No they don't.


Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 04:23:55 PM  
Wow!  Keeping people stupid since the rise of their savior.
 
2013-06-21 04:26:28 PM  
nytmare:

You can invent any exhibit at Creation Museum. The only limit is yourself.



i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-21 04:27:03 PM  
Here's a farkin dinosaur foot...

i838.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-21 04:34:41 PM  

SpaceBison: Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.


Sorta. It's fun to think about. Especially if you extend this idea to us, because we're not descended only from apes.
We're also descended from synapsids. Maybe even from something like the dimetrodon.
 
2013-06-21 04:38:50 PM  
Dragons are outliers from the Reptile Empire near the center of the galaxy. Their expeditionary/missionary task-force came to spread Reptile theology and influence. To continue enlarging their Empire, and they  ran into the people of Atlantis and were destroyed. The Atlantean empire was skilled in the the use of Magic and gemstone energies married to highly advanced science. The battle between Reptilian warriors and these 2nd Age humans resulted in devastation that affected the solar system.

Reptilian mercenaries got stranded here when the wormhole used to transit from Galatic central to this solar system collapsed due to a corruption of the Space Time continuum through the weapons used. Those are the dragons of myth and legend. When Atlantis finally used up all the  maya underwiting their use of Ritual magic, a wave of entropy sucked all evidence of both the dragons and Atlantis into nothingness.

On the other hand, Dinosaurs were genetically mutated creatures by the hand of Atlantean bio-genetic sorcerers. For baggage handlers, servants, slaves, warriors, etc. With the empire of Atlantis gone, those dinosaurs left behind mated, mingled blood lines, mated, mingled blood lines for tens of thousands of generations until they died out and we find their bones.  But as with all things based on impossible-to-maintain energies and ideologies the corruption of technology married ritual magic was the final insult Great Gu used to wipe them from the Earth. Dinosaurs and Dragons play a most significant role in the end of the 2nd Age.

Really.

Bye
 
2013-06-21 04:44:24 PM  

GhostFish: SpaceBison: Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.

Sorta. It's fun to think about. Especially if you extend this idea to us the human machine, because we're it's not descended only from apes.
We're It's also descended from synapsids. Maybe even from something like the dimetrodon.

 
2013-06-21 04:53:05 PM  

Pitabred: I'm not spoiling the thread since it's been outed already, but we're ALL hanging out with T-Rexes, right now. All birds are descended from theropods, of which T-Rex is one of the most recognizable.


ONE lucky species of theropod got to be the ancestor of all birds; the rest did indeed die out.
 
2013-06-21 04:53:52 PM  
Dinosaurs? Birds?

img.fark.net

Chirp, chirp, motherfarkers.
 
2013-06-21 04:57:28 PM  
img.fark.net

Chirp.
 
2013-06-21 05:02:45 PM  

GhostFish: SpaceBison: Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.

Sorta. It's fun to think about. Especially if you extend this idea to us, because we're not descended only from apes.
We're also descended from synapsids. Maybe even from something like the dimetrodon.


Well, that explains the sail on my back.
 
2013-06-21 05:03:42 PM  

Kiler: ciberido: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.

I prefer to call them chicken abortions.


Had a friend in high school who was big into vegetarianism.  One time I asked her, "Hey, if you're a vegetarian, why do you eat eggs?"

"It's ok," she replied, "I also believe in abortion."

(And, no, I wasn't seriously trying to argue the point; I was just messing with her.)
 
2013-06-21 05:04:51 PM  

FloydA: KiltedBastich:

Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human, including abstraction and language abilities.

If they can do that with that little brain, I find myself seriously wondering what it could do with a brain scaled up in size and complexity to near our own.

Build a museum in Kentucky?


img.fark.net
Would have liked to have seen that museum.
 
2013-06-21 05:09:08 PM  

give me doughnuts: Pitabred: ...incentives aren't subsidies?

In this case, no. Everyone is all "Ehrmagerd! Terx merneies go to Erk Perk!"
No funds are being paid to the creation museum, or this ark thing. They aren't getting any state money, they simply don't have to pay as much.

"Tax subsidy" and tax "incentive" are used interchangably, which is somewhat inaccurate.
sub·si·dize/ˈsəbsəˌdīz/VerbSupport (an organization or activity) financially.Pay part of the cost of producing (something) to reduce prices for the buyer.


The problem being that those are the same thing. If they're not paying it to the state, other taxpayers have to subsidize the shortfall elsewhere. Just because you say "It's not a subsidy!" doesn't make it so.
 
2013-06-21 05:14:07 PM  
I don't think you're supposed to troll that hard in a soft target like a creationism thread FloydA. That has to be a violation of all sorts of arms limitation treaties. Expect deportation to the internet Hague soon.
 
2013-06-21 05:25:16 PM  
You know what frustrates me?  I have to give them a point for remembering that pterosaurs don't count as dinosaurs.

I can quickly take that point away again if any of their theropods have pronated wrists, though.
 
2013-06-21 05:33:33 PM  

Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker


Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever
 
2013-06-21 05:36:50 PM  

Gonz: TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.

Then she still has made a choice.


She can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill?
 
2013-06-21 05:38:13 PM  

Delawheredad: I AM NOT defending these nut jobs BUT it is very possible that myths of dragons originated in part from dinosaur bones found back when man was more superstitious then MOST folks are today.


For instance, back in the backwardfarkistan make-a-mythology-from-whatever-period, there's a rock-slide near some river that opens up the rock strata underneath, which just happen to contain a T-rex skull.

Now, some dude comes walking buy and has the living bejesusing shait scared out of him by what appears to be some HORRIFYING BEAST WITH HUGE TEETH coming out of the rock, only to realize they're bones. But of what?

And so would begin the storytelling.
 
2013-06-21 06:47:58 PM  

Gonz: TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.

Then she still has made a choice.


img.fark.net
Agrees.
 
2013-06-21 07:05:41 PM  

megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever


Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?
 
2013-06-21 07:11:50 PM  

Magorn: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever

Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?


Alright....without knowing you, I can tell you that you are smarter than me. My first major is an art major. And I don't even click the politics tab because...well, as much as I like S&M, I'm not THAT into pain.

So it's not hard to be smarter than me. Also, I live in Detroit. By choice.

As far as hot goes...pics or it didn't happen.
 
2013-06-21 07:29:06 PM  

gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link


Your links do not support your claim.     The Creation Museum was built with private funding.  And the "museum" was open several years prior to those incentives.

Those incentives that the State of Kentucky gave were for an entirely different project which is a partnership between AiG and a for-profit religiously-themed park that has yet to be built.   State governments give such incentives in hopes the state will recoup the lost revenue by increased spending by tourists who come to the state to visit the attraction.  My understanding is that the progress on that project has been really lackluster and with any luck it won't happen.  But on the other hand, there are enough dumb rich people out there...
 
2013-06-21 07:45:02 PM  

megarian: Magorn: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever

Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?

Alright....without knowing you, I can tell you that you are smarter than me. My first major is an art major. And I don't even click the politics tab because...well, as much as I like S&M, I'm not THAT into pain.

So it's not hard to be smarter than me. Also, I live in Detroit. By choice.

As far as hot goes...pics or it didn't happen.


Yeah, it just occured to me its pretty cowardly to hide behind a blank profile.  Especially with all the shiat I was talking in the speedo thread.

/corrected
 
2013-06-21 07:56:55 PM  

Abuse Liability: megarian: Magorn: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever

Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?

Alright....without knowing you, I can tell you that you are smarter than me. My first major is an art major. And I don't even click the politics tab because...well, as much as I like S&M, I'm not THAT into pain.

So it's not hard to be smarter than me. Also, I live in Detroit. By choice.

As far as hot goes...pics or it didn't happen.

Yeah, it just occured to me its pretty cowardly to hide behind a blank profile.  Especially with all the shiat I was talking in the speedo thread.

/corrected


Thanks for the cute overload/diabetes ya jerk.
 
2013-06-21 08:44:53 PM  
Thread fails without Jeebus riding a raptor.
 
2013-06-21 08:53:14 PM  
Creationists basically work by distraction.

They want you to avoid looking at scientific evidence, bc that is overwhelmingly (1 billion to zero) anti Creationism

They have a constituency - people who want to believe that all the bible is literally true, bc other bits of the bible promise them that they will go to Heaven if they believe.

So the Creationists invent consoling stories which all have the same theme: "Look this might be true, so therefore Jesus"

And that is enough for their flock.
 
2013-06-21 08:59:03 PM  

Oldiron_79: Thread fails without Jeebus riding a raptor.


Doesn't everything fail without Jesus riding a raptor?
 
2013-06-21 09:09:16 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.


Well, if you want to get technical about it, humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries NOW.  There are even people who explicitly keep house dinosaurs as enjoyable and intelligent companion animals:

upload.wikimedia.org

There is an increasingly large hobby (and a very large industry) of people raising various kinds of domesticated dinosaurs as food animals:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

(Hell, here in Kentucky we even had a few folks who got downright famous for the things they did with dinosaur meat when introduced to spices, breading and a deep fryer.)

There are folks who actively feed wild dinosaurs so as to encourage them to come closer to human areas:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

There are even people who have explicitly domesticated and/or tamed wild predatory theropod dinosaurs for purposes of hunting OTHER dinosaurs as well as small mammals:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

(Of note--the lady's companion predatory dinosaur is the fastest creature known to exist, capable of hunting its prey (other dinosaurs) at speeds very close to that of an IRL car. :D)

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org
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(I would post a pic of one of these human-habituated predatory dinosaurs having successfully caught another dinosaur, but the pics I have found were a bit gory and probably would be in Violation Of The Rules here.  Predatory dinosaurs, as a rule, are somewhat messy eaters.)

/yes, birds are dinosaurs, specifically theropod dinosaurs of a particular clade whose closest non-avian relatives were the likes of Velociraptor and Deinonychus
//yes, I know that's not what people were on about.  I don't CARE.  To quote a certain XKCD comic, "This is a good world."
 
2013-06-21 09:12:06 PM  

megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Magorn: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever

Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?

Alright....without knowing you, I can tell you that you are smarter than me. My first major is an art major. And I don't even click the politics tab because...well, as much as I like S&M, I'm not THAT into pain.

So it's not hard to be smarter than me. Also, I live in Detroit. By choice.

As far as hot goes...pics or it didn't happen.

Yeah, it just occured to me its pretty cowardly to hide behind a blank profile.  Especially with all the shiat I was talking in the speedo thread.

/corrected

Thanks for the cute overload/diabetes ya jerk.


You are welcome. Also, my penis is gigantic-ish

/might as well go all out if I'm going to flirt
 
2013-06-21 09:15:16 PM  

gimmegimme: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.


I think I may have made the point a bit clearer in my post above, birds ARE dinosaurs, and are actually not too terribly distant relatives from ol' T. rex itself--and rather closer still to dromaeosaurs, the "raptors" of movie infamy.  (In fact, birds and dromies are generally considered to be sister groups, and there have been proposals to even frankly reclassify Archaeopteryx as a dromie proper.  Tyrannosaurs are a bit more distant, but still well within the Maniraptora and there are even some older members of the tyrannosaur clade that had feathers and would probably pass as toothy flightless birds if spotted nowadays.  Dromies like Deinonychus and Velociraptor would pass even more so as "toothy birds".)
 
2013-06-21 09:26:36 PM  

FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

The Coelacanth is a fish, not a dinosaur.  Many people have seen dinosaurs, and some even claim to have eaten dinosaur meat, but the media don't talk about it much.  It's an open secret among taxonomists though - they all know.


I have eaten different kinds of dinosaur meat, and (by and large) they are all awesome. :D

Archaic-body-form theropod dinosaur, interestingly, does tend to taste a bit like very lean beef--cooked rare, it's not bad at all.  Water-based dinosaur is better yet, though (and tends to be surprisingly good with sweet stuffings and dressings; the water-living dinosaurs tend to be just a bit fatty and a good citrus or plum sauce complements the rich meat nicely).

We also seem to have a wee bit of a gift for preparing a particular clade of theropod dinosaur (Galliformes)--there was a guy (who also made a big deal out of being a member of a certain honourary order in Kentucky of Good Fellows) who did some real wonders with pressure-cooked dinosaur, and there were also some very interesting things done by his rather less-well-known wife and brother (honestly, I prefer his brother's recipe for Southern Dinosaur, but that's my own two pence).  Even the likes of Stephen Colbert have sang the praises of dinosauriform a la Kentucky.  (That said--some nice herbs and a rotisserie oven also work very well for it.)

And then there's also a larger galliform theropod that tends to make some good eating--not just in the traditional manner as supposedly introduced by the Narrangassett First Nation (who had apparently hunted wild dinosaurs for food and had even domesticated them in part) but even--get ready for this--things like dinosaur cold-cuts and dinosaur sausage.

(There are also some other little galliform dinosaurs that are good eating as well, as well as some Columbiformes theropod dinosaurs, but generally you need more than one of those for a meal unless you're going for a small one or have a number of sides.  There are people who do truly sing the praises of a meal of the smaller galliforms or columbiforms, though, enough that there are established Dinosaur Hunting Seasons for them in much of this country.)
 
2013-06-21 09:30:29 PM  

Abuse Liability: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Magorn: megarian: Abuse Liability: megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.

You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker

Oh no....

Now I need a clever alt.

But I've been drinking. So...so that's nice. I forgot what the question was.

/*shakes fist* damn you, Magorn! You had better be way hotter and smarter than me!
//if people are confused, I'd rather them think I'm magnificently sexy and clever

Without knowing what you look like or even you gender, I'm gonna say it's a very safe bet I am in no way hotter than you, and as for smarter? Well I did get suckered by the troll didn't I?

Alright....without knowing you, I can tell you that you are smarter than me. My first major is an art major. And I don't even click the politics tab because...well, as much as I like S&M, I'm not THAT into pain.

So it's not hard to be smarter than me. Also, I live in Detroit. By choice.

As far as hot goes...pics or it didn't happen.

Yeah, it just occured to me its pretty cowardly to hide behind a blank profile.  Especially with all the shiat I was talking in the speedo thread.

/corrected

Thanks for the cute overload/diabetes ya jerk.

You are welcome. Also, my penis is gigantic-ish

/might as well go all out if I'm going to flirt


Well, go big or go home.

And my penis is gigantic-ish, too!
 
2013-06-21 09:41:15 PM  
/corrected

Thanks for the cute overload/diabetes ya jerk.

You are welcome. Also, my penis is gigantic-ish

/might as well go all out if I'm going to flirt

Well, go big or go home.

And my penis is gigantic-ish, too!


Pics or it didn't happen
 
2013-06-21 10:08:33 PM  
I've seen this billboard in Oregon.
img.fark.net

Remember, outside of the cities, Oregon is very much a red state.
 
2013-06-21 11:06:47 PM  

Pitabred: give me doughnuts: big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.

A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.

...incentives aren't subsidies? A subsidy is a reduction of cost to encourage something to happen. So... a rebate of 25% of sales tax on capital costs is pretty much exactly what a subsidy is. If BobCo isn't taxed as much as AliceCo but they ostensibly do similar things, then BobCo is being subsidized. What's worse is that it's the government subsidizing a religious institution. Do they give any new museum that kind of tax incentive?


Yeah, they gave NASCAR a similar exemption.  It's to generate revenue and jobs, not to subsidize development.

A tax break a is not a direct subsidy, as if the state is paying someone to be there.  Instead, the state is collecting less sales tax as an incentive to generate more revenue from jobs and tourist dollars.   It's an indirect subsidy at best, but if the local economy garners more money in income tax from jobs generated then it may end up not being any subsidy at all.  It's lost potential revenue for a limited time, which is a more than normal offering for any business looking to move into an area.  And at the end of the day - that museum is a business.

IIRC, the Democratic governor treated it like a theme park opening.  The only problem people seem to have with it is the subject matter, but if it ends up being a financial net positive for the state, then Kentucky was within its rights to offer a tax break.  Even the NY Times pointed out there wasn't enough wrong with the breaks to sue about them.

Also, this isn't the Ark project.  The Creation Museum is operating at full force.  The Ark Encounter is another nutter project in Kentucky.
 
2013-06-22 03:36:54 AM  

Wrath of Heaven: Oh my, this would be a fun PS contest : )

[i43.tinypic.com image 796x616]


That would look great as an Abortion-plex.
 
2013-06-22 01:25:04 PM  

Lsherm: Pitabred: give me doughnuts: big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...


Yeah, they gave NASCAR a similar exemption.  It's to generate revenue and jobs, not to subsidize development.

A tax break a is not a direct subsidy, as if the state is paying someone to be there.  Instead, the state is collecting less sales tax as an incentive to generate more revenue from jobs and tourist dollars.   It's an indirect subsidy at best, but if the local economy garners more money in income tax from jobs generated then it may end up not being any subsidy at all.  It's lost potential revenue for a limited time, which is a more than normal offering for any business looking to move into an area.  And at the end of the day - that museum is a business.

IIRC, the Democratic governor treated it like a theme park opening.  The only problem people seem to have with it is the subject matter, but if it ends up being a financial net positive for the state, then Kentucky was within its rights to offer a tax break.  Even the NY Times pointed out there wasn't enough wrong with the breaks to sue about them.

Also, this isn't the Ark project.  The Creation Museum is operating at full force.  The Ark Encounter is another nutter project in Kentucky


The biggest issue is that it's a religious institution, and the government is theoretically secular.
 
2013-06-22 07:18:15 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Someone in Kentucky should float the idea of a Muslim museum funded by taxpayer money, and see what happens. Should be good for a few laughs...


If it was a for-profit business they would have to.
 
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