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2013-06-21 02:54:50 PM  

big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.


That's far from the point.
 
2013-06-21 02:55:18 PM  

Leo Bloom's Freakout: Look up, here there still be dinos:

[img.fark.net image 320x571]


The problem is that the creationists somehow twist that cool and interesting (and perfectly logical) factoid into proof that the earth is four weeks years old and that man and dinosaurs lived along side one another just last Tuesday. The insanity of mankind truly knows no bounds. :(
 
2013-06-21 02:58:22 PM  
I saw this on my way to downtown Cincinnati, and  posting it to fark was my first thought.

Considering how expensive that place is  ($35 tickets I think), I've ruled out going there for my own amusement.  Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.
 
2013-06-21 03:01:59 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


Damnitsomuch.

Good work.
 
2013-06-21 03:02:50 PM  
Jubeebee:

It made me smile, even though I knew where you were going. I was thinking along the same lines a few days ago after reading everything I could about seriemas and then going for a walk around the ponds and watching the egret while really high.

fark yeah, dinosaurs


KiltedBastich:

That was beautiful, my friend.

But seriously, how awesome is it to contemplate that, yes, there are dinosaurs out there all over the place, it just took us forever to actually figure out that no, they didn't go extinct as a group, they just changed enough that we clueless apes had trouble figuring it out.


ciberido:

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.


Thanks guys; you're why I love Fark.  I can make some silly science joke and I know that someone's going to get it. :-)

I was sitting on the porch the other day, watching a crow figure out how to open a tied shut plastic bag on my neighbor's porch, and it really struck me how absolutely amazing Theorpods really are.
 
2013-06-21 03:03:45 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


Some of them may have hung around a little later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene_dinosaurs

But still long gone before humans
 
2013-06-21 03:05:02 PM  

mudpants: Saw the billboard just last night and had a difficult time staying in my lane laughing too much.


I did a doubletake too

/drive by it everyday on my way to work
//the light up christmas dinos on the lawn make me giggle every year
///slashies
 
2013-06-21 03:06:26 PM  

Jument: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Look up, here there still be dinos:

[img.fark.net image 320x571]

The problem is that the creationists somehow twist that cool and interesting (and perfectly logical) factoid into proof that the earth is four weeks years old and that man and dinosaurs lived along side one another just last Tuesday. The insanity of mankind truly knows no bounds. :(


They also twist the text and spirit of their own text to justify discrimination, abuse of other people, and various other not "loving thy neighbor as thyself" behaviors... If only they were right about the dinosaurs, there would be some hope of giant murder-birds flying the skies to pluck them off the face of the planet... Alas, to dream.
 
2013-06-21 03:06:31 PM  

kid_icarus: Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so

Congratulations,  FloydA.



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2013-06-21 03:07:17 PM  
Is this a photoshop contest?
 
2013-06-21 03:07:48 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.


Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.
 
2013-06-21 03:10:24 PM  
TheGogmagog:
Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think)

If you're going to run a con on religious people, set it at the high price points they're accustomed to paying for nonsense.  A cheap con will cause them to doubt your sincerity (as well as allowing access to the poors, who they try to avoid at all times).
 
2013-06-21 03:11:33 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


Regarding oxygen content being a limiting factor, you are wrong.

Even though he was trolling, you should never be wrong when trying to debunk creationism.

Insects were limited, not creatures with lungs. Otherwise blue whales couldn't exist.
 
2013-06-21 03:13:10 PM  

FloydA: Cythraul:

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?


Awww.  I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here.  ;-)


I was hoping you'd created another "streetlight" thread.
 
2013-06-21 03:13:37 PM  

Highroller48: Is it Ironic that a bunch of hillbilly Neanderthals are trying to convince us more advanced humans that Evolution doesn't exist?


No such thing as more advanced with respect to evolution.
 
2013-06-21 03:14:40 PM  

ciberido: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Sure, if you mean the whole "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  In which case, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast today.


I prefer to call them chicken abortions.
 
2013-06-21 03:14:46 PM  

FloydA: I was sitting on the porch the other day, watching a crow figure out how to open a tied shut plastic bag on my neighbor's porch, and it really struck me how absolutely amazing Theorpods really are.


Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human, including abstraction and language abilities.

If they can do that with that little brain, I find myself seriously wondering what it could do with a brain scaled up in size and complexity to near our own.
 
2013-06-21 03:17:21 PM  

TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Then she still has made a choice.
 
2013-06-21 03:20:40 PM  
Dragons, huh?

Big deal. My rogue got a title for stabbing one in the spine back in 2012.
 
2013-06-21 03:22:57 PM  
KiltedBastich:

Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human, including abstraction and language abilities.

If they can do that with that little brain, I find myself seriously wondering what it could do with a brain scaled up in size and complexity to near our own.


Build a museum in Kentucky?
 
2013-06-21 03:25:43 PM  

TheGogmagog: Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think), I've ruled out going there for my own amusement. Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Honest question: How do you marry someone and not know that about them beforehand?
 
2013-06-21 03:26:10 PM  

KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.


FTFY
 
2013-06-21 03:26:32 PM  

FloydA: Build a museum in Kentucky?


Considering how very little brain that appears to require, I don't think that would be much of a challenge.
 
2013-06-21 03:27:22 PM  

Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.  Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.  There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries.  The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans?  Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles.  But Humans and "dinosuars" ?  Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance)  the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago.  Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that.   Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos  showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm.   Humans didn't even show until  up around 11:59.20 pm  or so


I think you mean primates. Hominids are at like 11:59.59 pm. Last 2 million years or so.

Anyway, the oxygen thing is interesting. I know that currently theory says that a Jurassic asteroid impact likely wiped the Earth clean of most large creatures, but I wonder if that also some either somehow sequestered and/or blasted enough O2 out into space to affect the course of animal life? Or whether O2 was already on a downhill decline and then this happened? Huh.
 
2013-06-21 03:28:17 PM  

megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.


You better lookout, Magorn is in this thread and he's making your similar-appearing name look bad.  He fell for the troll (in his own words) hook, line and sinker
 
2013-06-21 03:28:26 PM  

KiltedBastich: FloydA: Build a museum in Kentucky?

Considering how very little brain that appears to require, I don't think that would be much of a challenge.


Oh they use their brains alright, it's just a shame that it's full of f*ck instead of the good stuff, but hey whatever.
 
2013-06-21 03:28:33 PM  

TheGogmagog: Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.


Well, take away any and all medications, and see how she likes the whole creationism side of things if she thinks it doesn't matter.
 
2013-06-21 03:29:21 PM  

Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY


Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.
 
2013-06-21 03:29:36 PM  

big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.


A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.
 
2013-06-21 03:30:12 PM  

megarian: Pointy Tail of Satan: There should be a whole section on these creationist pylons in the DSM-V.

Albert Ellis thought so, too. Smart guy.


Also, I'm stalking you Zimmerman style
 
2013-06-21 03:32:34 PM  

KiltedBastich: Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY

Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.


Have you seen their sales? .  Ugh, I usually hate going for the easy anti-religion joke, but I couldn't help myself
 
2013-06-21 03:35:58 PM  
New exhibit at Creation Museum Here There Be  Dragons Idiots..
 
2013-06-21 03:42:59 PM  
Some of the dragon myths were probably inspired by finding dinosaur bones, but the original "dragon" stories from Europe were most likely exaggerated tales of actual large snakes, such as pythons, and king cobras.   In early bestiaries, dragons were described as being the enemy of elephants.  They were described as "killing anything caught in it's coils", like a constrictor, and living in India, and Ethiopia.   See:
http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast262.htm

The basilisk a creature that could supposedly kill by a glance may have been a corruption of the reports of another actual snake, the spitting cobra.
 
2013-06-21 03:43:02 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 03:44:50 PM  
Apparently every once in a while they crank up the stupid to appeal to more of their base.
 
2013-06-21 03:45:39 PM  

Mr.Tangent: New exhibit at Creation Museum Here There Be  Dragons Idiots..


That's not an exhibit, that's the permanent collection...
 
2013-06-21 03:48:08 PM  

give me doughnuts: big pig peaches: Valiente: make me some tea: gimmegimme: Cythraul: gimmegimme: Your tax dollars at work...

Tax dollars?! Tax dollars pay for that place?

Link

Link

Oh...

wow.

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.

A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.


...incentives aren't subsidies? A subsidy is a reduction of cost to encourage something to happen. So... a rebate of 25% of sales tax on capital costs is pretty much exactly what a subsidy is. If BobCo isn't taxed as much as AliceCo but they ostensibly do similar things, then BobCo is being subsidized. What's worse is that it's the government subsidizing a religious institution. Do they give any new museum that kind of tax incentive?
 
2013-06-21 04:03:44 PM  
Oh my, this would be a fun PS contest : )

i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-21 04:08:07 PM  

Pitabred: ...incentives aren't subsidies?


In this case, no. Everyone is all "Ehrmagerd! Terx merneies go to Erk Perk!"
No funds are being paid to the creation museum, or this ark thing. They aren't getting any state money, they simply don't have to pay as much.

"Tax subsidy" and tax "incentive" are used interchangably, which is somewhat inaccurate.
sub·si·dize/ˈsəbsəˌdīz/VerbSupport (an organization or activity) financially.Pay part of the cost of producing (something) to reduce prices for the buyer.
 
2013-06-21 04:10:55 PM  

KiltedBastich: Vodka Zombie: KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY

Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.


You can invent any exhibit at Creation Museum. The only limit is yourself.
 
2013-06-21 04:20:44 PM  

kid_icarus: Fun Fact: Many hardcore fundamentalists will find this exhibit offensive since it contains reference to non-christian, heathen/pagan cultures. Also...

Evolutionists struggle to explain the intriguing evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

Actually, no. No they don't.


Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 04:23:55 PM  
Wow!  Keeping people stupid since the rise of their savior.
 
2013-06-21 04:26:28 PM  
nytmare:

You can invent any exhibit at Creation Museum. The only limit is yourself.



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2013-06-21 04:27:03 PM  
Here's a farkin dinosaur foot...

i838.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-21 04:34:41 PM  

SpaceBison: Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.


Sorta. It's fun to think about. Especially if you extend this idea to us, because we're not descended only from apes.
We're also descended from synapsids. Maybe even from something like the dimetrodon.
 
2013-06-21 04:38:50 PM  
Dragons are outliers from the Reptile Empire near the center of the galaxy. Their expeditionary/missionary task-force came to spread Reptile theology and influence. To continue enlarging their Empire, and they  ran into the people of Atlantis and were destroyed. The Atlantean empire was skilled in the the use of Magic and gemstone energies married to highly advanced science. The battle between Reptilian warriors and these 2nd Age humans resulted in devastation that affected the solar system.

Reptilian mercenaries got stranded here when the wormhole used to transit from Galatic central to this solar system collapsed due to a corruption of the Space Time continuum through the weapons used. Those are the dragons of myth and legend. When Atlantis finally used up all the  maya underwiting their use of Ritual magic, a wave of entropy sucked all evidence of both the dragons and Atlantis into nothingness.

On the other hand, Dinosaurs were genetically mutated creatures by the hand of Atlantean bio-genetic sorcerers. For baggage handlers, servants, slaves, warriors, etc. With the empire of Atlantis gone, those dinosaurs left behind mated, mingled blood lines, mated, mingled blood lines for tens of thousands of generations until they died out and we find their bones.  But as with all things based on impossible-to-maintain energies and ideologies the corruption of technology married ritual magic was the final insult Great Gu used to wipe them from the Earth. Dinosaurs and Dragons play a most significant role in the end of the 2nd Age.

Really.

Bye
 
2013-06-21 04:44:24 PM  

GhostFish: SpaceBison: Fun fact: Dinosaurs currently live among us! Sorta.

Sorta. It's fun to think about. Especially if you extend this idea to us the human machine, because we're it's not descended only from apes.
We're It's also descended from synapsids. Maybe even from something like the dimetrodon.

 
2013-06-21 04:53:05 PM  

Pitabred: I'm not spoiling the thread since it's been outed already, but we're ALL hanging out with T-Rexes, right now. All birds are descended from theropods, of which T-Rex is one of the most recognizable.


ONE lucky species of theropod got to be the ancestor of all birds; the rest did indeed die out.
 
2013-06-21 04:53:52 PM  
Dinosaurs? Birds?

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Chirp, chirp, motherfarkers.
 
2013-06-21 04:57:28 PM  
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Chirp.
 
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