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2013-06-21 10:22:59 AM  
I'm a little surprised they got all women
 
2013-06-21 10:23:56 AM  
This makes me sad.  I see no chance of him being convicted.  And he should be, he really should be.
 
2013-06-21 10:24:33 AM  
Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.
 
2013-06-21 10:25:01 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: I'm a little surprised they got all women



Every man they tried to interview was too busy posting on Fark about how he has sketched up some maps with timeline annotations that prove definitively what happened on the night in question.

Every man.
 
2013-06-21 10:25:22 AM  
I thought all trials had to have 12 jurors unless it was strictly a civil action?  Is florida different?

(I googled, but on came up with same information)
 
2013-06-21 10:26:10 AM  
I'd try my best to get out of that jury.  You're painting a big target on yourself and someone is going to be unhappy with the verdict.  Next thing you know you would have a busload of protesters on your front lawn.  Or worse.
 
2013-06-21 10:26:19 AM  

abfalter: This makes me sad.  I see no chance of him being convicted.  And he should be, he really should be.


how do you know this.
 
2013-06-21 10:26:43 AM  

gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.


Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.
 
2013-06-21 10:27:13 AM  

abfalter: This makes me sad.  I see no chance of him being convicted.  And he should be, he really should be.


Exactly why you never belong on a jury.
 
2013-06-21 10:27:22 AM  

abfalter: This makes me sad.  I see no chance of him being convicted.  And he should be, he really should be.


Oh, I don't know... I think if some large black man was smashing your head on the sidewalk, you would probably shoot him to.
 
2013-06-21 10:27:44 AM  

Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.


Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.
 
2013-06-21 10:27:48 AM  

abfalter: This makes me sad.  I see no chance of him being convicted.  And he should be, he really should be.


For defending himself from a  gangsta thug?

Nice, stay classy, libs.
 
2013-06-21 10:27:49 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: I'm a little surprised they got all women


I'm not, it almost guaranties Zimmerman will walk. After all, he killed a scary, black guy.
 
2013-06-21 10:28:55 AM  

natazha: IdBeCrazyIf: I'm a little surprised they got all women

I'm not, it almost guaranties Zimmerman will walk. After all, he killed a scary, black guy.


He did. He did the world a favor by saving many, many people from drugs and violence.
 
2013-06-21 10:29:00 AM  

gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.


Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.
 
2013-06-21 10:30:43 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.


Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy.  If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.
 
2013-06-21 10:31:37 AM  

natazha: IdBeCrazyIf: I'm a little surprised they got all women

I'm not, it almost guaranties Zimmerman will walk. After all, he killed a scary, black guy.


I just didn't think they would be that obvious with it
 
2013-06-21 10:32:14 AM  

gimmegimme: Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.


Treyvon  bought a house in that neighborhood?
 
2013-06-21 10:33:11 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.

Treyvon  bought a house in that neighborhood?


Martin had just as much right to be there as Zimmy.  Martin may indeed have bought a home there someday, but he was shot in the chest and killed at the age of 17.
 
2013-06-21 10:33:46 AM  

gimmegimme: Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy. If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.



No, you don't.  The attack must be imminent.  There's no evidence Martin was attacked, or under imminent attack.
 
2013-06-21 10:35:48 AM  

Phinn: gimmegimme: Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy. If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.

No, you don't.  The attack must be imminent.  There's no evidence Martin was attacked, or under imminent attack.


Martin knew he was being followed by some weirdo for quite some time, a man who was rolling in a vehicle and then got out on foot.  Was Zimmerman going to kidnap him?  Rape him?  He had no idea.  Martin tried to elude the stranger, but the man would not stop what turned out to be an armed pursuit.
 
2013-06-21 10:35:56 AM  
gimmegimme:
Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.


Who, Hindus?
 
2013-06-21 10:36:48 AM  

gimmegimme: Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.


How would that be relevent here?  "Thug" is derived from an Indian language, and nobody involved is Indian.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thug
 
2013-06-21 10:37:17 AM  

gimmegimme: Martin knew he was being followed by some weirdo for quite some time, a man who was rolling in a vehicle and then got out on foot. Was Zimmerman going to kidnap him? Rape him? He had no idea. Martin tried to elude the stranger, but the man would not stop what turned out to be an armed pursuit.



Still not imminent.
 
2013-06-21 10:37:24 AM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: I thought all trials had to have 12 jurors unless it was strictly a civil action?  Is florida different?

(I googled, but on came up with same information)


From wiki
Supreme court rulled in Williams V. Florida that six juriors was sufficent and that "the 12-man panel" is not a necessary ingredient of "trial by jury" and is not a violation of the sizth amendment
 
2013-06-21 10:38:05 AM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: I thought all trials had to have 12 jurors unless it was strictly a civil action?  Is florida different?

(I googled, but on came up with same information)


Yea, I was confused by this as well.  Also loved this little tidbit:

"She also likes watching Bravo, episodes of the Real Housewives series, and is still adjusting to a calmer life in Florida."
 
2013-06-21 10:38:39 AM  
gimmegimme:  .

Treyvon  bought a house in that neighborhood?

Martin had just as much right to be there as Zimmy.  Martin may indeed have bought a home there someday, but he was shot in the chest and killed at the age of 17.


You are debating a statement that was not made.  I have a right to walk the sidewalk in front of your house all night.  Does that give me ownership of your house?  No.

Martin may have walked on Mars one day.  I doubt it.   He was shot in the chest after assaulting someone.  Most astronauts do not have assault on their record.
 
2013-06-21 10:38:58 AM  

No Such Agency: gimmegimme:
Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.

Who, Hindus?


jshine: gimmegimme: Magnanimous_J: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Because appealing to illogical emotion is the only chance the prosecution has.

Or maybe the jurors will think about what it's like to be attacked in your own neighborhood by a violent thug. I hear women aren't big fans of that.

Please don't call Zimmerman a "thug." That term carries racial connotations that are unpleasant to many.

How would that be relevent here?  "Thug" is derived from an Indian language, and nobody involved is Indian.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thug


Wow...we're pretending that folks who throw the term "thug" around in Zimmy threads are implying that Martin was from India?

I guess that song about "strange fruit" could be referring to the mangoes that hang from the trees in Mumbai.
 
2013-06-21 10:39:10 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.


I thought he was casing housing to break into?
 
2013-06-21 10:40:11 AM  
So tired of hearing these arguments,  Zimmerman sounds like a coward that got in way over his head pretending to be a badass.  At which point, Treyvon, after losing zimmerman, decided to confront the super sleuth, ended up attacking him (as evidenced by the wounds to the back of the scalp) and zimmerman shot him in self-defense.  Obviously, this is up for the jury to decide after hearing the evidence, but he'll likely walk (as he should), because being a wannabe badass isn't a crime. Just makes him a really disappointing human being.
 
2013-06-21 10:41:07 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme:  .

Treyvon  bought a house in that neighborhood?

Martin had just as much right to be there as Zimmy.  Martin may indeed have bought a home there someday, but he was shot in the chest and killed at the age of 17.

You are debating a statement that was not made.  I have a right to walk the sidewalk in front of your house all night.  Does that give me ownership of your house?  No.

Martin may have walked on Mars one day.  I doubt it.   He was shot in the chest after assaulting someone.  Most astronauts do not have assault on their record.


Then I guess George Zimmerman can never be an astronaut.
 
2013-06-21 10:41:41 AM  
gimmegimme:  
Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy.  If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.


Interesting.   Where is your evidence that Mr Martin asked Mr Zimmerman to stop following him.
 
2013-06-21 10:43:28 AM  
I see the Stormfront contingent is up early today.
 
2013-06-21 10:43:39 AM  

gimmegimme: Phinn: gimmegimme: Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy. If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.

No, you don't.  The attack must be imminent.  There's no evidence Martin was attacked, or under imminent attack.

Martin knew he was being followed by some weirdo for quite some time, a man who was rolling in a vehicle and then got out on foot.  Was Zimmerman going to kidnap him?  Rape him?  He had no idea.  Martin tried to elude the stranger, but the man would not stop what turned out to be an armed pursuit.


So if I think someone is maybe going to rape me or kidnap me I should A) move away from him preferably to an area with witnessess around or B) hide in the bushes then ambush him from behind and smash his head into the ground? or C) something in between A and B
 
2013-06-21 10:44:01 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme:  
Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy.  If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.


Interesting.   Where is your evidence that Mr Martin asked Mr Zimmerman to stop following him.


I never said he asked Zimmy to back off.  We just don't know for sure.  It is clear, however, that Martin took evasive maneuvers to get away from the weirdo who was following him for so long.  If I ride up alongside a woman who is walking on the sidewalk...then I get out of the car and follow her on foot...and she tries to get away from me and I continue pursuit...I'm probably going to have a conversation with some police.

You know, unless I shoot the woman in cold blood first.  Then I get a Band-Aid and head home.
 
2013-06-21 10:44:02 AM  

Abuse Liability: So tired of hearing these arguments,  Zimmerman sounds like a coward that got in way over his head pretending to be a badass.  At which point, Treyvon, after losing zimmerman, decided to confront the super sleuth, ended up attacking him (as evidenced by the wounds to the back of the scalp) and zimmerman shot him in self-defense.  Obviously, this is up for the jury to decide after hearing the evidence, but he'll likely walk (as he should), because being a wannabe badass isn't a crime. Just makes him a really disappointing human being.


Bullshiat.
Zimmerman attacked HIM, as evidenced by the corpse.
 
2013-06-21 10:44:16 AM  
I don't really see a problem with this, but I'm not sure if this represents a jury of his peers adequately.
 
2013-06-21 10:45:07 AM  

bopis: gimmegimme: Phinn: gimmegimme: Zimmy started the fight by stalking the 17-year-old boy. If someone is following you around in this manner, you have the right to stand your ground and to defend yourself from the armed man who won't stop following you, first in a vehicle and then on foot.

No, you don't.  The attack must be imminent.  There's no evidence Martin was attacked, or under imminent attack.

Martin knew he was being followed by some weirdo for quite some time, a man who was rolling in a vehicle and then got out on foot.  Was Zimmerman going to kidnap him?  Rape him?  He had no idea.  Martin tried to elude the stranger, but the man would not stop what turned out to be an armed pursuit.

So if I think someone is maybe going to rape me or kidnap me I should A) move away from him preferably to an area with witnessess around or B) hide in the bushes then ambush him from behind and smash his head into the ground? or C) something in between A and B


Awesome job blaming the victim.  Isn't it sad that Zimmy put him in the situation where he had to make such a scary choice?
 
2013-06-21 10:46:26 AM  
Zimmerman's gonna walk because he didnt break the law.  He's just a dickhead. A law abiding dick head.
 
2013-06-21 10:46:32 AM  
Gun "rights" enthusiasts will be very angry when this guy is convicted of fulfilling their wet dreams.
 
2013-06-21 10:46:48 AM  

MNguy: Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.

I thought he was casing housing to break into?


I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.
 
2013-06-21 10:48:15 AM  

Abuse Liability: So tired of hearing these arguments,  Zimmerman sounds like a coward that got in way over his head pretending to be a badass.  At which point, Treyvon, after losing zimmerman, decided to confront the super sleuth, ended up attacking him (as evidenced by the wounds to the back of the scalp) and zimmerman shot him in self-defense.  Obviously, this is up for the jury to decide after hearing the evidence, but he'll likely walk (as he should), because being a wannabe badass isn't a crime. Just makes him a really disappointing human being.



I feel pretty much the same way. I think the popular consensus of Zimmerman as a wannabe cop is probably accurate. I just feel the need to defend him a little bit because of how thoroughly he was railroaded on this whole thing. From showing Martin's five year old picture over and over, to the doctored 911 tapes, to the professional race baiters stirring up trouble.


Both of these men were idiots. One is dead. It's Florida for Christ's sake. What do you exect?
 
2013-06-21 10:48:30 AM  

occamswrist: MNguy: Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.

I thought he was casing housing to break into?

I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.


There's no proof at all that Martin was "looking around at the houses."  Zimmerman told different people different things.  In the Hannity interview, Zimmy said that Martin was suspicious because he wasn't walking home fast enough in the rain AND the kid was suspicious because he was skipping.
 
2013-06-21 10:49:54 AM  

occamswrist: I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.


Yep both of them made incorrect perceptions as to what was going on.  Its really too bad Zimmerman didn't just stay in his care and wait for the police.  Poor decision on his part, but still not illegal, just stupid.
 
2013-06-21 10:50:43 AM  

megarian: I don't really see a problem with this, but I'm not sure if this represents a jury of his peers adequately.


Its a jury of his peers. Remember the phone recording where one of them screams like a girl?

/never actually listened to the tape
 
2013-06-21 10:51:44 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: I see the Stormfront contingent is up early today.



When the facts aren't on your side, cry racism.


Go fark yourself with a rake.
 
2013-06-21 10:52:02 AM  

jfivealive: occamswrist: I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.

Yep both of them made incorrect perceptions as to what was going on.  Its really too bad Zimmerman didn't just stay in his care and wait for the police.  Poor decision on his part, but still not illegal, just stupid.


At the very least, I would just like Zim fans to admit that it's a really pussy move to pretend you're Dirty Harry and then shoot a kid in the chest when you're losing the fight you started.

It's like pushing over a row of motorcycles and then shooting all of the bikers with a flamethrower when you start getting your ass kicked.
 
2013-06-21 10:52:41 AM  

roddack: Satan's Bunny Slippers: I thought all trials had to have 12 jurors unless it was strictly a civil action?  Is florida different?

(I googled, but on came up with same information)

From wiki
Supreme court rulled in Williams V. Florida that six juriors was sufficent and that "the 12-man panel" is not a necessary ingredient of "trial by jury" and is not a violation of the sizth amendment


thanks!
 
2013-06-21 10:53:00 AM  

gimmegimme: occamswrist: MNguy: Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.

I thought he was casing housing to break into?

I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.

There's no proof at all that Martin was "looking around at the houses."  Zimmerman told different people different things.  In the Hannity interview, Zimmy said that Martin was suspicious because he wasn't walking home fast enough in the rain AND the kid was suspicious because he was skipping.


Skipping? News to me...but then all my knowledge about the case is from fark threads...
 
2013-06-21 10:54:11 AM  

occamswrist: gimmegimme: occamswrist: MNguy: Nutsac_Jim: gimmegimme: Five of the jurors are mothers; here's hoping they'll think about what it's like when your 17-year-old kid is shot down in cold blood with a can of iced tea in his hand.

Dont forget that he was carrying his grandfathers medicine to him, and going to make a donation to Mother Teresa's charity and ignore the beating.

I thought he was casing housing to break into?

I love these threads...

Martin was probably looking around at the houses because it was his first time there and he didn't know where he was going and Zimmerman misinterpreted it as a kid unnecesarily standing around in the rain casing the houses.

There's no proof at all that Martin was "looking around at the houses."  Zimmerman told different people different things.  In the Hannity interview, Zimmy said that Martin was suspicious because he wasn't walking home fast enough in the rain AND the kid was suspicious because he was skipping.

Skipping? News to me...but then all my knowledge about the case is from fark threads...


Here's the link.  Zimmy doesn't even have the common sense to say that he wished things hadn't happened the way they had, blah blah.
 
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