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2013-06-21 10:29:48 AM
He did it.
 
2013-06-21 10:32:19 AM
img.fark.net
"Yawn, seen it already."
 
2013-06-21 10:38:01 AM
This thread needs more Tebow
 
2013-06-21 10:39:25 AM
Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat
 
2013-06-21 10:39:36 AM
The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?
 
2013-06-21 10:48:00 AM

Lost Thought 00: The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?


Because he's an idiot gang member, only mafia made men are that smart

/Pats fan
//Sopranos fan too
 
2013-06-21 10:49:52 AM
Any chance we can get a repeat of the white Ford Bronco chase? Hernandez even has a white Audi SUV
 
2013-06-21 10:50:07 AM

Lost Thought 00: The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?


If I've learned anything from the news these past couple weeks it's don't hang out with Aaron Hernandez.  Sure he'll probably take you to a strip club and will probably spring for some drinks and lap dances but theres a 27% chance he will shoot you in the farking head before the night is thru.
 
2013-06-21 10:53:03 AM
 
2013-06-21 11:00:49 AM
Hmmm. Cleaning crew on Monday, smashed security system and cell phone, neighbors hear shots late then 2 other men and Hernandez are seen entering the house, club footage of Hernandez and the victim drinking before the murder.....If he didn't do it, he certainly has gone out of his way to make it look like he did.

/His football days are OVER
 
2013-06-21 11:03:00 AM
Can we please, please, please get a ban on links from sites with autolaunch videos?
 
2013-06-21 11:04:40 AM
Aaron Hernandez should consult with Ray Ray, then go all derpy with the Jeebus.
 
2013-06-21 11:06:51 AM

FlippityFlap: Hmmm. Cleaning crew on Monday, smashed security system and cell phone, neighbors hear shots late then 2 other men and Hernandez are seen entering the house, club footage of Hernandez and the victim drinking before the murder.....If he didn't do it, he certainly has gone out of his way to make it look like he did.

/His football days are OVER


He should talk to Ray Lewis about it. Should be able to keep playing once he does.
 
2013-06-21 11:07:27 AM

legion_of_doo: Aaron Hernandez should consult with Ray Ray, then go all derpy with the Jeebus.


*tiny fist*
 
2013-06-21 11:07:59 AM

babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat


Brain Mitchell
Antwaan Randal El
Anquan Boldin
Josh Cribbs
Julian Edelman

Nope, it's absolutely unprecedented and completely impossible for College Quarterbacks to change position in the NFL.  They shouldn't even try with Tebow it's just wasting time.  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!
 
2013-06-21 11:08:44 AM
a university of florida football player committing a criminal act?  color me anything but surprised
 
2013-06-21 11:11:11 AM

degenerate-afro:  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!


Sanchez is the gift that keeps on giving. As if butt fumble wasn't enough.
 
2013-06-21 11:11:28 AM
I wonder if Hernandez knows that destroying his security system does not really accomplish anything other than to make him look like he has something to cover up.

If the system was being remotely monitored (most likely), all of the zone signals and alarm history is discoverable via subpoena from the security company.

Any CCTV footage would have been stored to a local hard drive, which, unless he drilled holes into it and then threw it into a lake is more than likely still recoverable via computer forensics. If he was having the footage backed up to cloud storage, he is hosed.

/15 years Security Management experience
 
2013-06-21 11:12:02 AM
Can he block.
 
2013-06-21 11:12:57 AM
also, maybe aaron hernandez could do a reverse tebow, convert to quarterback in prison, and then star in a crappy real-life remake of the longest yard.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 11:17:20 AM

calm like a bomb: Can we please, please, please get a ban on links from sites with autolaunch videos?


This
 
2013-06-21 11:19:10 AM

Lost Thought 00: The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?


So true - doesn't make sense.
CSI North Attleborough will figure it out
 
2013-06-21 11:22:01 AM
I bet I can pick him up cheap in my keeper league.
 
2013-06-21 11:24:51 AM

animesucks: a university of floridaan SEC football player committing a criminal act?  color me anything but surprised


FTFY
 
2013-06-21 11:28:07 AM

EyeballKid: [img.fark.net image 340x495]
"Yawn, seen it already."


img.fark.net

"Tapes?  Don't worry, Bill!"
 
2013-06-21 11:29:51 AM

calm like a bomb: Can we please, please, please get a ban on links from sites with autolaunch videos?


Sorry, my bad.  I use no script.
 
2013-06-21 11:33:44 AM

Beerguy: I wonder if Hernandez knows that destroying his security system does not really accomplish anything other than to make him look like he has something to cover up.

If the system was being remotely monitored (most likely), all of the zone signals and alarm history is discoverable via subpoena from the security company.

Any CCTV footage would have been stored to a local hard drive, which, unless he drilled holes into it and then threw it into a lake is more than likely still recoverable via computer forensics. If he was having the footage backed up to cloud storage, he is hosed.

/15 years Security Management experience


These were my initial thoughts.

Lost Thought 00: The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?


I think the current working theory is that friend was borrowing money, buying drugs and such, ripped off the wrong dealers, and was killed execution style. Hernandez knew about it, but is covering up, possibly to protect himself.

That, or, he's just not really smart. Or overconfident. Or both.
 
2013-06-21 11:34:12 AM

degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat

Brain Mitchell
Antwaan Randal El
Anquan Boldin
Josh Cribbs
Julian Edelman

Nope, it's absolutely unprecedented and completely impossible for College Quarterbacks to change position in the NFL.  They shouldn't even try with Tebow it's just wasting time.  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!


You just gave former University of Kentucky quarterback Randall Cobb a sad.
 
2013-06-21 11:41:16 AM

degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat



degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat

Brain Mitchell
Antwaan Randal El
Anquan Boldin
Josh Cribbs
Julian Edelman

Nope, it's absolutely unprecedented and completely impossible for College Quarterbacks to change position in the NFL.  They shouldn't even try with Tebow it's just wasting time.  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!


Brian Mitchell  (Ridiculous Speed, Tebow does not have)
Antwaan Randal El (A 50/50 run/pass QB who also has ridiculous speed)
Anquan Boldin (Played WR in college)
Josh Cribbs (Lead in team in rushing and passing, was NEVER projected to be an NFL QB)
Julian Edelman  (Also never projected to be an NFL QB, led his team in rushing his Senior year, played Special Teams as well in college)

/I'll take "Irrelevant Cherry Picking for $500 Alex"
 
2013-06-21 11:44:59 AM

SearchN: He should talk to Ray Lewis about it. Should be able to keep playing once he does.


 i don't know....Ray-Ray was under Tags, and while Goodell's wings just got clipped re the Saints bountygate, this was a homicide.  not a "we'll see how tought that ACL is, kill the head the body will die" type thing, someone in fact died.

second, i haven't heard much about how Goodell and Kraft's relationship will be affected by this.  Kraft was a major proponent of Goodell getting the commish gig, and as far back as "Spygate" there were some grumblings that Goodell went light on the Pats out of respect for Kraft.  In the event Goodell takes action - how can he not, considering there is at least one other civil lawsuit pending against hernandez - i wouldn't guarantee that Hernandez gets the same punishment Ray Ray did what, 12-13 years ago?  what was that, anywyas?  just a massive fine.

this will be a year.  could be the least of his worries.

just a quick look at personal conduct (as opposed to substance abuse) suspensions, under Goodell:

pacman jones, entire 2007 season (guns and stripper melee, generalized farkholery)
tank johnson, 8 games, possession of firearms / probation violation
chris henry (RIP), 8 games, unspecified violation of league policy
mike vick, 2 games, federal dogfighting conviction
donte stallworth, entire season, DUI homicide
Benny Roth, 6 games / appealed to 4, the non-rape rape incident
N Suh, 2 games, being a farkstick.


The last time an active player was caught up in a homicide it was a year.  Goodell's hands appear to be tied.
 
2013-06-21 11:46:14 AM
This might be similar to the Jayson Williams case.  Guys go out clubbing and drinking, return to the home, start playing with guns, one gets shot by accident. Here it looks like the "oh shiat" moment has folks scrambling to cover it up.
 
2013-06-21 11:47:06 AM
As a Pats fan I hope he doesn't Ray Lewis his way out of a crime.
He doesn't deserve to wear the red,white and blue and rolling over on his "posse" won't change that
 
2013-06-21 11:50:00 AM

justtray: Lost Thought 00: The only saving grace for him, that I can see, is if he did kill him and dump the body, why dump the body only a mile from his house? Why not drive out into the middle of nowhere for a few hours?

I think the current working theory is that friend was borrowing money, buying drugs and such, ripped off the wrong dealers, and was killed execution style. Hernandez knew about it, but is covering up, possibly to protect himself.

That, or, he's just not really smart. Or overconfident. Or both.


That seems plausible. He tries to cover his tracks on the drugs stuff, ends up getting wrapped up in a much more serious murder investigation. If it's true, I'd expect to hear him chirping like a canary soon.
 
2013-06-21 11:50:46 AM

rickythepenguin: SearchN: He should talk to Ray Lewis about it. Should be able to keep playing once he does.

 i don't know....Ray-Ray was under Tags, and while Goodell's wings just got clipped re the Saints bountygate, this was a homicide.  not a "we'll see how tought that ACL is, kill the head the body will die" type thing, someone in fact died.

second, i haven't heard much about how Goodell and Kraft's relationship will be affected by this.  Kraft was a major proponent of Goodell getting the commish gig, and as far back as "Spygate" there were some grumblings that Goodell went light on the Pats out of respect for Kraft.  In the event Goodell takes action - how can he not, considering there is at least one other civil lawsuit pending against hernandez - i wouldn't guarantee that Hernandez gets the same punishment Ray Ray did what, 12-13 years ago?  what was that, anywyas?  just a massive fine.

this will be a year.  could be the least of his worries.

just a quick look at personal conduct (as opposed to substance abuse) suspensions, under Goodell:

pacman jones, entire 2007 season (guns and stripper melee, generalized farkholery)
tank johnson, 8 games, possession of firearms / probation violation
chris henry (RIP), 8 games, unspecified violation of league policy
mike vick, 2 games, federal dogfighting conviction
donte stallworth, entire season, DUI homicide
Benny Roth, 6 games / appealed to 4, the non-rape rape incident
N Suh, 2 games, being a farkstick.


The last time an active player was caught up in a homicide it was a year.  Goodell's hands appear to be tied.


You forgot a certain rapey qb who totes never did anything.
 
2013-06-21 11:51:25 AM
My question is why was he living in North Attleboro?
 
2013-06-21 11:55:06 AM
Anybody think that Mr. Lloyd shot himself in the back of the head then hid the gun so it looked like a murder? His family could of needed the life insurance money and suicide was the only option.
 
2013-06-21 11:56:57 AM

Coach_J: degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat


degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat

Brain Mitchell
Antwaan Randal El
Anquan Boldin
Josh Cribbs
Julian Edelman

Nope, it's absolutely unprecedented and completely impossible for College Quarterbacks to change position in the NFL.  They shouldn't even try with Tebow it's just wasting time.  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!

Brian Mitchell  (Ridiculous Speed, Tebow does not have)
Antwaan Randal El (A 50/50 run/pass QB who also has ridiculous speed)
Anquan Boldin (Played WR in college)
Josh Cribbs (Lead in team in rushing and passing, was NEVER projected to be an NFL QB)
Julian Edelman  (Also never projected to be an NFL QB, led his team in rushing his Senior year, played Special Teams as well in college)

/I'll take "Irrelevant Cherry Picking for $500 Alex"


Thank you, damn. Gets old seeing people post that list when you say Tebow can't switch positions.

Yes obviously players coming out of college switch positions. One, those players ALL possess athletic ability that Tebow doesn't...it's like saying "why doesn't Tebow just become a baseball player, other college football players became baseball players so he could, too." Uh no.

And second, not a damn one of those guys came into the league as a QB (drafted in the first round no less), started 10 (or so) games as a QB including 2 playoff games, and then was made to change positions. They were all, to a player, told they weren't QBs and had to do something else to make it in the league. Tebow was specifically told he could be a QB (incorrectly as it turns out) and played that position. He is in no way like Randle El or Josh Cribbs, and it's just flat out dumb to think he is successfully switching positions at this point

Maybe maybe maybe, he could have switched coming out of college and been working on that position these last few years. But he didn't, so it isn't happening now, and it doesn't matter how many former option QBs who became WRs in the NFL you list. Tebow isn't like them.

/thinking he doesn't even make the Pats roster honestly, but if he does it will be as QB3
 
2013-06-21 11:59:45 AM

wombatsrus: This might be similar to the Jayson Williams case.  Guys go out clubbing and drinking, return to the home, start playing with guns, one gets shot by accident. Here it looks like the "oh shiat" moment has folks scrambling to cover it up.


that is EXACTLY what I thought when more details arose.


thecpt: You forgot a certain rapey qb who totes never did anything.


no, i said "benny roth, the non-rape rape incident"
 
2013-06-21 12:00:00 PM

thecpt: rickythepenguin: SearchN: He should talk to Ray Lewis about it. Should be able to keep playing once he does.

 i don't know....Ray-Ray was under Tags, and while Goodell's wings just got clipped re the Saints bountygate, this was a homicide.  not a "we'll see how tought that ACL is, kill the head the body will die" type thing, someone in fact died.

second, i haven't heard much about how Goodell and Kraft's relationship will be affected by this.  Kraft was a major proponent of Goodell getting the commish gig, and as far back as "Spygate" there were some grumblings that Goodell went light on the Pats out of respect for Kraft.  In the event Goodell takes action - how can he not, considering there is at least one other civil lawsuit pending against hernandez - i wouldn't guarantee that Hernandez gets the same punishment Ray Ray did what, 12-13 years ago?  what was that, anywyas?  just a massive fine.

this will be a year.  could be the least of his worries.

just a quick look at personal conduct (as opposed to substance abuse) suspensions, under Goodell:

pacman jones, entire 2007 season (guns and stripper melee, generalized farkholery)
tank johnson, 8 games, possession of firearms / probation violation
chris henry (RIP), 8 games, unspecified violation of league policy
mike vick, 2 games, federal dogfighting conviction
donte stallworth, entire season, DUI homicide
Benny Roth, 6 games / appealed to 4, the non-rape rape incident
N Suh, 2 games, being a farkstick.


The last time an active player was caught up in a homicide it was a year.  Goodell's hands appear to be tied.

You forgot a certain rapey qb who totes never did anything.


No, he didnt. And he totes was never charged with anything unlike anyone else on that list. We'll see where Muderandez ends up.
 
2013-06-21 12:04:14 PM
I have Brady in a keeper league.  Should I try to trade him?  All his targets are busy going to prison, getting surgery, or playing for Denver.

/Clearly, my priorities are straight
 
2013-06-21 12:05:18 PM

rickythepenguin: In the event Goodell takes action - how can he not, considering there is at least one other civil lawsuit pending against hernandez -


i should finish that thought...

"one other civil lawsuit penduing against hernandez, for, OH YEAH, FIREARMS......"
 
2013-06-21 12:08:31 PM

rickythepenguin: wombatsrus: This might be similar to the Jayson Williams case.  Guys go out clubbing and drinking, return to the home, start playing with guns, one gets shot by accident. Here it looks like the "oh shiat" moment has folks scrambling to cover it up.

that is EXACTLY what I thought when more details arose.


thecpt: You forgot a certain rapey qb who totes never did anything.

no, i said "benny roth, the non-rape rape incident"


Ah crap skipped right past it, unlike the girl who couldn't skip past death threats in her mail.

My bad
 
2013-06-21 12:12:05 PM
Probably knew the truth:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-21 12:12:38 PM

FlippityFlap: Hmmm. Cleaning crew on Monday, smashed security system and cell phone, neighbors hear shots late then 2 other men and Hernandez are seen entering the house, club footage of Hernandez and the victim drinking before the murder.....If he didn't do it, he certainly has gone out of his way to make it look like he did.

/His football days are OVER


Well, he's certainly not playing this year (Goodell will see to that) and he probably won't ever play for the Patriots again (although they did try out Donte Stallworth after he went through his little bout of vehicular homicide), but if Ray Lewis and Michael Vick can get 2nd chances in the NFL, why can't Aaron Hernandez?

/Oh, wait, that's right...he doesn't make the NFL millions in contracts and endorsement deals.
 
2013-06-21 12:20:24 PM

rickythepenguin: SearchN: He should talk to Ray Lewis about it. Should be able to keep playing once he does.

 i don't know....Ray-Ray was under Tags, and while Goodell's wings just got clipped re the Saints bountygate, this was a homicide.  not a "we'll see how tought that ACL is, kill the head the body will die" type thing, someone in fact died.

second, i haven't heard much about how Goodell and Kraft's relationship will be affected by this.  Kraft was a major proponent of Goodell getting the commish gig, and as far back as "Spygate" there were some grumblings that Goodell went light on the Pats out of respect for Kraft.  In the event Goodell takes action - how can he not, considering there is at least one other civil lawsuit pending against hernandez - i wouldn't guarantee that Hernandez gets the same punishment Ray Ray did what, 12-13 years ago?  what was that, anywyas?  just a massive fine.

this will be a year.  could be the least of his worries.

just a quick look at personal conduct (as opposed to substance abuse) suspensions, under Goodell:

pacman jones, entire 2007 season (guns and stripper melee, generalized farkholery)
tank johnson, 8 games, possession of firearms / probation violation
chris henry (RIP), 8 games, unspecified violation of league policy
mike vick, 2 games, federal dogfighting conviction
donte stallworth, entire season, DUI homicide
Benny Roth, 6 games / appealed to 4, the non-rape rape incident
N Suh, 2 games, being a farkstick.


The last time an active player was caught up in a homicide it was a year.  Goodell's hands appear to be tied.


Well, there's a difference between an accidental vehicular homicide and a straight-up murder.
 
2013-06-21 12:24:56 PM

degenerate-afro: babysealclubber: Maybe after Tebow fails at TE this may finally be the end of, "He's a winner! He should just convert positions!" bullshiat

Brain Mitchell
Antwaan Randal El
Anquan Boldin
Josh Cribbs
Julian Edelman

Nope, it's absolutely unprecedented and completely impossible for College Quarterbacks to change position in the NFL.  They shouldn't even try with Tebow it's just wasting time.  I mean look at what happened to Sanchez!


Those guys are all extremely athletic.  Tebow is not in that class of athlete.
 
2013-06-21 12:26:22 PM

Beerguy: I wonder if Hernandez knows that destroying his security system does not really accomplish anything other than to make him look like he has something to cover up.

If the system was being remotely monitored (most likely), all of the zone signals and alarm history is discoverable via subpoena from the security company.

Any CCTV footage would have been stored to a local hard drive, which, unless he drilled holes into it and then threw it into a lake is more than likely still recoverable via computer forensics. If he was having the footage backed up to cloud storage, he is hosed.

/15 years Security Management experience


Thanks for that; as soon as I heard "cell phone smashed" and "home security system intentionally destroyed"...I knew this was going down a dark path.

He'll be lucky if he only gets 10 years in prison for this.
 
2013-06-21 12:28:47 PM
Dude went full OJ. You NEVER go full OJ.
 
2013-06-21 12:29:10 PM

IlGreven: Well, there's a difference between an accidental vehicular homicide and a straight-up murder.


uhh....i'm not banging the drum as to why Hernandez shouldn't be suspended....I'm just pointing out the last time an active NFL player was caught up in someone dying, it was a year.  and yyeah, while stallwroth was legally intoxicated, i somewhat recall the victim crossing against the signal (?)  if those factors (whether i'm rigth or wrong) merited one year, you'd think willful acts not perhaps clouded by alcohol and/or the other person's bad decisions, would be more.

and once again, if is "only" obstruction of justice, how Atlanta courts treated that 12-13 years ago versus how MA courts treat that in 2013 (lewis was convicted of obsturction of justice) may be different.  we all know lewis walked from a criminal standpoint.  welp, guns and gun-related crimes are treated differently in teh south than they are in the northeast.  if you don't believe me, ask Plaxico Burress.
 
2013-06-21 12:30:54 PM
You see, this is the problem with preferential treatment and celebrity status conferred to athletes in high-school and college. They aren't able to build a foundation of good work-ethic, and personal responsibility, instead they cut way too many corners, are lazy in their thought process, and practically incapable of pulling off even mundane criminal activity, let alone homocide. I mean, come on...
 
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