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(CBC)   Whiny, self entitled "millennials" who wasted their time and put themselves in crushing debt chasing useless degrees STILL complaining about lack of jobs in their chosen fields... like nursing, law, teaching, etc   (cbc.ca) divider line 200
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2013-06-21 01:45:40 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I have a son, so I am paying attention. Honestly. I shall not make fill his little head with promises of undeniable happiness and success.

1. Son, you cannot do anything you set your mind to
2. Son, do not follow your passions, but make time for them instead
3. Son, do not stick your dick in crazy
4. Son, you need not reproduce unless you have a friend to reproduce with

/easier said than done


See if you can get him interested in a trade. You can't outsource plumbing, HVAC, electrical etc. Start working and learning right out of highschool and if he is smart and learns all he can he will be in disposable and making $100k a year before he's 30. (Or whatever the equivalent will be by that time)
 
2013-06-21 01:45:42 PM  

raerae1980: Kristoph57: "Follow your passion!"*

*As long as your passion is in a marketable field. Otherwise, good luck, and I'll have that burger medium rare.


"Find something you love doing and make that into a job!"*

*If what you love matches up with industry expectations. Otherwise, good luck, and I'll have that burger medium rare.


"In order to succeed in life, you must pursue higher education!"*

*This statement is opinion of the Canadian College Accreditation Board and is not a guarantee of success. Your results may vary.. and I want whipped cream and a dash of cinnamon on my coffee drink.

"You earn more money by having a college degree under your belt."*

*The college & the banks earn more money by you having a college degree under your belt. We've managed to flood the market with "graduates", and now you're no longer special enough. Try another student loan, something larger, maybe in the Doctorate size? Sign here.


I feel like such a sucker.

My plan to get even...find full-time work in a non-profit, get into an income based repayment plan for the loans, and pay a small percentage of what I actually owe back over ten years.


Why do you feel like a sucker? Would you not have gotten your education given the circumstances when you started?

Lot of capt hindsight exists in these threads
 
2013-06-21 01:46:26 PM  

thecpt: Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.

A couple of young nurses I know are being furloughed. They also say thanks Obama which makes me laugh oddly.

/north east


Really?  That's a shame.  Everywhere I've looked for employment (I have a degree in HIM) I've seen hospitals desperately looking for nurses.

usernameguy: They're paying that for nurses with years of experience, not for people fresh out of school.


It depends.  I've seen some that do want experience, others that don't care how many years of experience the nurse has.
 
2013-06-21 01:46:48 PM  

Jedekai: thecpt: Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.

A couple of young nurses I know are being furloughed. They also say thanks Obama which makes me laugh oddly.

/north east

Hospitals like their bottom line. Obamacare cuts into that bottom line, and he refuses to consider an exemption for hospitals. End result: FAIL.

Take it this way: Your a hospital's head of HR. You have a budget of five apples. The government takes an apple because your alive, they take an apple because your working, they take an apple because success is a Mortal Sin, and they need to feed someone who isn't successful or working... because you can't hire them. They just took that apple... and then they take another apple because you have people working for you in a hospital, "But it's a hospital... can't I just have the employee EAT THE DAMN APPLE YOU'RE GIVING THEM ANYWAY?!"

"No. That's our job. It goes to Sploofy, she's a 22-year-old mother of nine-by-six-different-fathers-and-farm-animals who's stuck outside of Memphis in a mobile home with a CNA."

"...why can't I just hire her, put her on the hospital's insurance plan and then you don't have to pay for it?"

"Our plan is undeniably better because we say so, without any data relevant to the problem at hand."


Two workers and a CEO are sitting at a table with a dozen donuts.  The CEO takes eleven donuts.  The first worker takes the last donut and the CEO turns to the second worker and says 'Hey, he's trying to take your donut'.
 
2013-06-21 01:46:53 PM  
Then when they apply for food service jobs, they won't get one unless they erase all those years of higher education off it. Managers want teenagers and middled aged women who will follow orders. They don't want an educated adult who will often question how things are done, have a backbone, and become suicidally depressed they are making tacos or burgers.
 
2013-06-21 01:47:40 PM  
Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing


im SHOCKED she cant find work.
 
2013-06-21 01:48:00 PM  
IIRC there was a fark story about how there was a glut of lawyers out there in most major markets. When my brother finished nursing school he had 4 offers that I knew about.
 
2013-06-21 01:48:10 PM  

Pangea: raerae1980: Kristoph57: "Follow your passion!"*

My plan to get even...find full-time work in a non-profit, get into an income based repayment plan for the loans, and pay a small percentage of what I actually owe back over ten years.

You still may not have thought your cunning plan all the way through.

I work for a "non-profit" and was surprised by a salary offer that exceeded the "start from here and negotiate down" figure that was in my head.

Many non-profits pay their staff industry standard or better.


I'm already working for a non-profit at the part-time level.   A full-time position was offered and I applied for it.   Trust me...it's retail and does not pay much.  I'm more worried about hubby's income, as his is significantly higher.   But, without the repayment plan, my payment each month would be over $1,000, with it it's around $600.     Fark the student loan industry!!
 
2013-06-21 01:48:22 PM  
there's lots of jobs whiny libs just look for the ones that say "sry can't pay but this will look good on your resume" and/or "work 80 hours per week 25,000 a year no benefits"
 
2013-06-21 01:49:15 PM  
People spend so much time trying to fit in, only to discover that power is being different and having something unique to offer.
 
2013-06-21 01:50:17 PM  

Semi-Sane: These young kids are not boot strappy enough to create their own businesses. If you can't find a job create your own job.


Yeah, just borrow the necessary money from your parents.

What?  Someone said that already?

Oh well...
 
2013-06-21 01:50:26 PM  
I have been feeling this same crunch in the states...  I got layed off in late 07 when the economy took a dump, and then bounced around for a couple of years.  Now it is almost impossible to get back into my career field with all the new over educated kids up for grabs and the imported people from all over the country swamping the Texas job market that I cant hope to compete with.  Add to that the illegal aliens bringing down wages while congress is trying to make them permanent so I can get farked even harder...
 
2013-06-21 01:50:50 PM  

Skraeling: Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing

im SHOCKED she cant find work.


Unless you hit it big with a novel or screenplay, writers are screwed.
 
2013-06-21 01:51:18 PM  

Skraeling: Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing

im SHOCKED she cant find work.


I'm sure she leverage her creative writing education in updating the daily specials on the chalkboard near the hostess stand or register.
 
2013-06-21 01:51:56 PM  

Eponymous: doubled99: No, every generation is not seen the same. As a Generation Xer, I can say we were not generally characterized as whiny and entitled, but instead  lazy and apathetic. Still bad, but slightly less annoying.

Agreed....these millennial hipster douchbags make the X'ers look like fine upstanding citizens.

/Judge Smails was wise beyond his years.


I'll put it this way, anyone I knew who was worth hiring out of college has had steady employment since they graduated, STEM, LA, or random degree. These were also the kids who got internships and had some modicum of motivation to achieve than a ged ed diploma*. Of the people I know who suffered through bouts of unemployment, most I would not recommend for an open position in my company if they exceed the requirements twofold (shiatty personality, lazy, mean, dumb, et al).

tldr version: Most of the people my age, whom I'm acquainted with, are unemployed are underemployed because they suck, not because companies are conspiring against them.

I have plenty of friends who have gotten the shaft from companies in the past 4 years (laid off or fired), but they picked up a new job before their severance or next paycheck. Then again, I'm sure some mileage may vary

* I'm talking a 3.0 GPA and some internships, more or less average grades and basic proof you won't poison the coffee on the first day
 
2013-06-21 01:52:06 PM  
There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 01:52:07 PM  

Jedekai: thecpt: Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.

A couple of young nurses I know are being furloughed. They also say thanks Obama which makes me laugh oddly.

/north east

Hospitals like their bottom line. Obamacare cuts into that bottom line, and he refuses to consider an exemption for hospitals. End result: FAIL.

Take it this way: Your a hospital's head of HR. You have a budget of five apples. The government takes an apple because your alive, they take an apple because your working, they take an apple because success is a Mortal Sin, and they need to feed someone who isn't successful or working... because you can't hire them. They just took that apple... and then they take another apple because you have people working for you in a hospital, "But it's a hospital... can't I just have the employee EAT THE DAMN APPLE YOU'RE GIVING THEM ANYWAY?!"

"No. That's our job. It goes to Sploofy, she's a 22-year-old mother of nine-by-six-different-fathers-and-farm-animals who's stuck outside of Memphis in a mobile home with a CNA."

"...why can't I just hire her, put her on the hospital's insurance plan and then you don't have to pay for it?"


"Our plan is undeniably better because we say so, without any data relevant to the problem at hand."

You must be exhausted from setting up all those straw men.
 
2013-06-21 01:52:15 PM  
As a soon-to-be 1L attending a third tier law school at sticker price I am getting a kick out of stories like these.

/special snowflake
 
2013-06-21 01:54:20 PM  
Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-06-21 01:55:26 PM  

thecpt: Why do you feel like a sucker? Would you not have gotten your education given the circumstances when you started?

Lot of capt hindsight exists in these threads


Nope.  I already had an Associates and was working full-time in a field that I generally liked.  I got laid off, was told if I had a BA that wouldn't have happened (thanks Dad!).   So, I chose a field I 'imagined' my self in for well over retirement age.   But then I had the bright idea of going to grad school.  And that is what I really regret because I didn't have to go.
 
2013-06-21 01:55:37 PM  

hasty ambush: There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.


Happened in my backyard. They wanted truck drivers and laboreres mainly. No engineers out of school.
 
2013-06-21 01:57:18 PM  

titwrench: Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I have a son, so I am paying attention. Honestly. I shall not make fill his little head with promises of undeniable happiness and success.

1. Son, you cannot do anything you set your mind to
2. Son, do not follow your passions, but make time for them instead
3. Son, do not stick your dick in crazy
4. Son, you need not reproduce unless you have a friend to reproduce with

/easier said than done

See if you can get him interested in a trade. You can't outsource plumbing, HVAC, electrical etc. Start working and learning right out of highschool and if he is smart and learns all he can he will be in disposable and making $100k a year before he's 30. (Or whatever the equivalent will be by that time)


This ^^^

I know kids from high school that have been making more per annum since 19 than most of my college graduate friends make now at 26/27. It might not be awesome or a name dropper, but you can make a shiat ton of money. I'd have to double check but IIRC the two "richest" friends of mine from growing up had a a dad who started out as an plumber turned GC and an electrician turned SW developer. Neither father went to college.
 
2013-06-21 01:58:05 PM  

doubled99: No, every generation is not seen the same. As a Generation Xer, I can say we were not generally characterized as whiny and entitled, but instead  lazy and apathetic. Still bad, but slightly less annoying.


As a fellow Gen Xer, I'd come up with a witty rebuke, but it's too much work and I guess I really don't care.
 
2013-06-21 01:58:19 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Skraeling: Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing

im SHOCKED she cant find work.

Unless you hit it big with a novel or screenplay, writers are screwed.


Sure but that's been true forever. It's shouldn't be a shock to anyone.
 
2013-06-21 01:58:52 PM  
As a nursing school applicant, there are a TON of jobs where I live. We have four hospitals here (Tulsa) that are constantly hiring, regardless of experience.

I just wish I would've done this earlier, but it is what it is.
 
2013-06-21 01:58:57 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: BafflerMeal: Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I have a son, so I am paying attention. Honestly. I shall not make fill his little head with promises of undeniable happiness and success.

1. Son, you cannot do anything you set your mind to
2. Son, do not follow your passions, but make time for them instead
3. Son, do not stick your dick in crazy
4. Son, you need not reproduce unless you have a friend to reproduce with

/easier said than done

5.  Do anything you want, but get a fallback trade first.

/best advice my dad gave me

My dad's only advice was:

"I don't know what I'm doing, Son. Don't come to me for advice.You figure it out"

/better than clichés, I guess


Best advice I gave to my son was: "If I stop moving, don't touch me. Go get mommy, because I cut into a live wire."
 
2013-06-21 01:59:04 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Skraeling: Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing

im SHOCKED she cant find work.

Unless you hit it big with a novel or screenplay, writers are screwed.


That article primarily covers non-fiction spec pieces, although your general point stands.  It's not a rich industry, writers are treated like pondscum regardless of your target market, and many writers themselves are complicit in putting themselves in a poorhouse hole because they are writers, not businesspeople.  I prefer Harlan Ellison's advice on getting paid - do nothing for free and fight for every scrap of silver to cross your palm.  He's a scrappy, angry old man, but he's right on that score.
 
2013-06-21 01:59:21 PM  
 
2013-06-21 02:00:14 PM  

raerae1980: thecpt: Why do you feel like a sucker? Would you not have gotten your education given the circumstances when you started?

Lot of capt hindsight exists in these threads

Nope.  I already had an Associates and was working full-time in a field that I generally liked.  I got laid off, was told if I had a BA that wouldn't have happened (thanks Dad!).   So, I chose a field I 'imagined' my self in for well over retirement age.   But then I had the bright idea of going to grad school.  And that is what I really regret because I didn't have to go.


Ah, thought you meant the undergrad route. Yeah, grad in '10 and A LOT of my friends chose grad school to avoid the market. It seems like only half of them were successful in finding a job of their stature 2 years after obtaining their masters.
 
2013-06-21 02:00:17 PM  
Still not seeing how this is anybody's fault except their own...
 
2013-06-21 02:01:57 PM  

bdm26: As a soon-to-be 1L attending a third tier law school at sticker price I am getting a kick out of stories like these.

/special snowflake


My wife left GWU after her 1L year, with a full scholarship due to medical issues.  We remained friends with people that finished their degree.   Even the valedictorian took 6 months to find a position.   He graduated 3 years ago.    So uhhhhhh good luck.
 
2013-06-21 02:03:14 PM  

Maul555: I have been feeling this same crunch in the states...  I got layed off in late 07 when the economy took a dump, and then bounced around for a couple of years.  Now it is almost impossible to get back into my career field with all the new over educated kids up for grabs and the imported people from all over the country swamping the Texas job market that I cant hope to compete with.  Add to that the illegal aliens bringing down wages while congress is trying to make them permanent so I can get farked even harder...


I forgot to add that I am non-military living in a military town where everyone and their uncle is screaming "HIRE VETERANS".... and I am not a minority so that hurts me in an affirmative action world...   Basically, everyone else is put at the front of the line before me no matter how early I get there.

/I guess I need to find a 2nd industry to try and get into
 
2013-06-21 02:03:40 PM  

sovietski: As a nursing school applicant, there are a TON of jobs where I live. We have four hospitals here (Tulsa) that are constantly hiring, regardless of experience.

I just wish I would've done this earlier, but it is what it is.



St. Johns was a good home.
 
2013-06-21 02:03:50 PM  

thecpt: hasty ambush: There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.

Happened in my backyard. They wanted truck drivers and laboreres mainly. No engineers out of school.


Those truck drivers and laborers are making good money $62K not $100K depending on location, just need a CDL for the truck driving and of course pass the drug screening
 
2013-06-21 02:05:20 PM  

hasty ambush: thecpt: hasty ambush: There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.

Happened in my backyard. They wanted truck drivers and laboreres mainly. No engineers out of school.

Those truck drivers and laborers are making good money $62K not to $100K depending on location, just need a CDL for the truck driving and of course pass the drug screening

 
2013-06-21 02:06:27 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.


I thought the same thing.  There is something else to that particular girl's story.  Perhaps a criminal record.
 
2013-06-21 02:08:52 PM  
Many Canadians would not, even if able to, move to the U.S. because healthcare.
 
2013-06-21 02:09:03 PM  

hasty ambush: thecpt: hasty ambush: There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.

Happened in my backyard. They wanted truck drivers and laboreres mainly. No engineers out of school.

Those truck drivers and laborers are making good money $62K not $100K depending on location, just need a CDL for the truck driving and of course pass the drug screening


Not saying its a bad job at all, just that they're not likely to be hired in that field and its hardly beneficial to their careers.
 
2013-06-21 02:10:19 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: BafflerMeal: Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I have a son, so I am paying attention. Honestly. I shall not make fill his little head with promises of undeniable happiness and success.

1. Son, you cannot do anything you set your mind to
2. Son, do not follow your passions, but make time for them instead
3. Son, do not stick your dick in crazy
4. Son, you need not reproduce unless you have a friend to reproduce with

/easier said than done

5.  Do anything you want, but get a fallback trade first.

/best advice my dad gave me

My dad's only advice was:

"I don't know what I'm doing, Son. Don't come to me for advice.You figure it out"

/better than clichés, I guess


my dad's advice, a quote from someone smarter, 80% of success is showing up.

it had some corollaries:

it is better to overdress (if not sure, wear a suit, better to be an asshole than an idiot)

be nice.

when looking for a job. no one hires people from a resume or a phone call (applies to online apps).  go in to the place everyday to meet whoever is hiring.  get to know the the secretary.  if you have to, bring cookies.  be annoying. at least they won't forget you.  even if they don't hire you, check up on them frequently in case they have another position open.  this degree of nuisance will get you something productive.  maybe not a job, but at least some new contacts.  (essentially, be shameless)

finally, never stop looking for a new job.  my dad stayed with the same place for 20 years, but always had another job lined up, just in case.  you never know when a company is about to be acquired or insolvent.  better to assume the ship is sinking.
 
2013-06-21 02:10:38 PM  

Eponymous: Skraeling: Claire Ferris, a 24-year-old from Fergus, Ont., who now lives in Windsor, is a prime example. After graduating from the University of Windsor with a degree in drama and creative writing

im SHOCKED she cant find work.

I'm sure she leverage her creative writing education in updating the daily specials on the chalkboard near the hostess stand or register.



Most 'round these here parts call that sort, "Two16's ex".

/go Plath yourself
 
2013-06-21 02:11:33 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: BafflerMeal: Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I have a son, so I am paying attention. Honestly. I shall not make fill his little head with promises of undeniable happiness and success.

1. Son, you cannot do anything you set your mind to
2. Son, do not follow your passions, but make time for them instead
3. Son, do not stick your dick in crazy
4. Son, you need not reproduce unless you have a friend to reproduce with

/easier said than done

5.  Do anything you want, but get a fallback trade first.

/best advice my dad gave me

My dad's only advice was:

"I don't know what I'm doing, Son. Don't come to me for advice.You figure it out"

/better than clichés, I guess

my dad's advice, a quote from someone smarter, 80% of success is showing up.

it had some corollaries:

it is better to overdress (if not sure, wear a suit, better to be an asshole than an idiot)

be nice.

when looking for a job. no one hires people from a resume or a phone call (applies to online apps).  go in to the place everyday to meet whoever is hiring.  get to know the the secretary.  if you have to, bring cookies.  be annoying. at least they won't forget you.  even if they don't hire you, check up on them frequently in case they have another position open.  this degree of nuisance will get you something productive.  maybe not a job, but at least some new contacts.  (essentially, be shameless)

finally, never stop looking for a new job.  my dad stayed with the same place for 20 years, but always had another job lined up, just in case.  you never know when a company is about to be acquired or insolvent.  better to assume the ship is sinking.


Your dad's 4th corollary is highly ill-advised.
 
2013-06-21 02:14:20 PM  
Galileo's Daughter:
Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.

Sorry, Canadian article.  Most of our young people can do the math: those thousands in signing bonuses don't pay for as much health insurance as our taxes do in Canada (not to mention living in a fundamentalist-infested "right-to-work" state).
 
2013-06-21 02:14:37 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.


There's a lack of nurses now.  Once Obamacare kicks in fully, there will be plenty of them around since (like all other direct patient care positions), there's going to be massive layoffs so health care providers can remain profitable.  As for you people waiting hours to have your blood drawn, enjoy socialism !
 
2013-06-21 02:15:24 PM  

graeth: Still not seeing how this is anybody's fault except their own...


If I could melt away the cataracts of your ignorance, I would...

pute kisses like a man: it is better to overdress (if not sure, wear a suit, better to be an asshole than an idiot)

be nice.


LOL PORQUE
 
2013-06-21 02:16:10 PM  
thecpt:
hasty ambush: thecpt: hasty ambush: There are jobs out there, you just have to be able to pass a drug test.

Happened in my backyard. They wanted truck drivers and laboreres mainly. No engineers out of school.

Those truck drivers and laborers are making good money $62K not $100K depending on location, just need a CDL for the truck driving and of course pass the drug screening

Not saying its a bad job at all, just that they're not likely to be hired in that field and its hardly beneficial to their careers.


Wait, you're saying that spending three years driving a dump truck in Ft. McMurray might hinder someone's attempts to become a molecular biologist?  You lazy hipster.
 
2013-06-21 02:16:34 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: Lack of jobs in nursing?  Are you kidding?  Here in Georgia, hospitals are paying thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses to nurses.


This.  If you can't get a job in nursing, you must be really, really terrible at it.

KhamanV: I prefer Harlan Ellison's advice on getting paid - do nothing for free and fight for every scrap of silver to cross your palm.  He's a scrappy, angry old man, but he's right on that score.


That is very short-term thinking.  Doing things for free can often be very profitable.
 
2013-06-21 02:16:38 PM  
But corporate profits are at an all-time high, and the stock market is at its highest level ever.  Doesn't that mean there are lots of jobs?
 
2013-06-21 02:17:18 PM  
redmid17:
I know kids from high school that have been making more per annum since 19 than most of my college graduate friends make now at 26/27. It might not be awesome or a name dropper, but you can make a shiat ton of money. I'd have to double check but IIRC the two "richest" friends of mine from growing up had a a dad who started out as an plumber turned GC and an electrician turned SW developer. Neither father went to college.

My best friend from college became a GC and did very well - at one point he was running five crews and sitting in a very nice office, answering the phone while they raked in the bucks for him.

The other side of that coin was the collapse of the housing industry starting in 2006. By 2009 he was back to swinging a hammer during the day and staying up all night taking care of the paperwork (contracts, take-offs, estimates, supplier bills, etc). He finally gave up and took a job teaching shop at the local high school. He still does remodels and repairs and keeps his license up-to-date, but he says he'll never build another house.

Which is a shame, because he built solid houses and a lot of his business was return customers. But every industry has its weak points.

And besides, you can't fart or tell dirty jokes in shop class.
 
2013-06-21 02:17:23 PM  

elvindeath: As for you people waiting hours to have your blood drawn, enjoy socialism !


Also.... jackbooted unionized perverts wearing hammer and sickle armbands will be taking motorized wheelchair using Tea Party patriots to FEMA concentration camps.
 
2013-06-21 02:18:25 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: elvindeath: As for you people waiting hours to have your blood drawn, enjoy socialism !

Also.... jackbooted unionized perverts wearing hammer and sickle armbands will be taking motorized wheelchair using Tea Party patriots to FEMA concentration camps.


TROLOLOL
 
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