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(News.com.au)   How pizza grew from a simple flat bread with a smear of tomato, sold as a street food in southern Italy to the abomination it is today   (news.com.au) divider line 85
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2013-06-21 09:35:13 AM  
In before pizza vs casserole arguments
 
2013-06-21 09:37:35 AM  
I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food
 
2013-06-21 09:38:27 AM  
You can still buy fried dough with tomato sauce at every county fair.  It is just hard to call it dinner.
 
2013-06-21 09:51:39 AM  
I love how img.fark.netstreet food img.fark.net has become some kind of shorthand for unassailably authentic.

As if food that's been sitting in the sun in a cart next to a sewer all day is somehow "more real" than something that's served safely and sold indoors.
 
2013-06-21 09:52:57 AM  

cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food


You can find it in America.  I've had the wood-fired brick oven stuff in Italy and in the US.  The key is they tend to keep it simple.  The crust is thing, the thing cooks up in minutes because the oven is like 1200 degrees or something ridiculous, so they don't weigh it down with a lot of stuff.  The classic Margherita is just awesome when done like that with fresh buffalo mozzarella.  The basil leaves are torn up and thrown on as soon as it comes out.  So simple, but light years beyond any sort of stuff we get delivered in a cardboard box. Oh, and Italy has a lot of more conventional modern pizza, too.  They don't like to weigh theirs down with like our Franken-pizzas.
 
2013-06-21 09:54:40 AM  
I like pizza

/hold the anchovies
//and the semantics
 
2013-06-21 10:01:31 AM  
The crust...she's a the most important part. Fresh rosemary, olive oil, garlic, and yeasty goodness.

The sauce...I make my own sort of like Jon Favreau's in Made.

The cheese...oh yes...the big M plus feta and goat cheese

Don't forget to drizzle olive oil on top of everything just before it goes into the oven
 
2013-06-21 10:03:51 AM  
Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.
 
2013-06-21 10:04:49 AM  

sigdiamond2000: I love how [img.fark.net image 171x171]street food [img.fark.net image 171x171] has become some kind of shorthand for unassailably authentic.

As if food that's been sitting in the sun in a cart next to a sewer all day is somehow "more real" than something that's served safely and sold indoors.


i dare somebody to eat the street food sold in bangkok slums built over sewage pits
 
2013-06-21 10:07:34 AM  

AdamK: i dare somebody to eat the street food sold in bangkok slums built over sewage pits


I've done it in Burma, does that count?  If you buy it fresh fried out of the oil, or boiling hot, you are usually ok.
 
2013-06-21 10:17:00 AM  
You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.


Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.
 
2013-06-21 10:18:54 AM  
Pizza hotdog crust with mustard and sauce? That has got to be the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of, ever. Sauce for fark's sake?
 
2013-06-21 10:20:05 AM  

question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.


FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP
 
2013-06-21 10:24:02 AM  

cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food


You have to go south for good brick oven pizza.  Find a place that has a brick oven that is so hot you can't get near the thing.
 
2013-06-21 10:26:09 AM  
It's not like the Italians had some monopoly on flatbread or tomatoes since the days of ancient Rome... flatbread comes from the Middle East and tomatoes are a New World crop that didn't make it to Europe until the 17th century. (Pizza is just an Italian corruption of the word pita.) The Romans had a flatbread too... they called it placenta. But it had honey, oil and cheese with some bay leaves.

And as the article notes, pizza itself is largely a 20th century food first popularized in New York City in pretty much the form we know and love today (though we now tend towards thicker crusts).

But the article also cites the old 1889 urban legend (debunked here), so you probably shouldn't trust much of what it has to say without reading elsewhere on this topic, which is pretty well documented on the Internet since, hey, pretty much everyone loves pizza.
 
2013-06-21 10:30:41 AM  

secularsage: The Romans had a flatbread too... they called it placenta. But it had honey, oil and cheese with some bay leaves


I'm still a little upset that placenta has no placenta on it.
 
2013-06-21 10:31:23 AM  

mrlewish: The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

img.fark.net
Dang pizzas were just flavoured communion wafers 'til 'merikuh made 'em 4" thick & awesome!
 
2013-06-21 10:32:23 AM  
"...for a limited time last year a hotdog crust, complete with sauce and mustard"

That is just farking nauseating.  A hot dog inside the crust?  You eat that, you deserve a heart attack.

And Pizza Hut shouldn't even be brought up in a discussion about pizza.
 
2013-06-21 10:33:10 AM  
I'mma going to let you finish here but chicago style..... I just cannot finish that.  Some things you just cannot troll with.
 
2013-06-21 10:36:01 AM  

Nabb1: cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food

You can find it in America.  I've had the wood-fired brick oven stuff in Italy and in the US.  The key is they tend to keep it simple.  The crust is thing, the thing cooks up in minutes because the oven is like 1200 degrees or something ridiculous, so they don't weigh it down with a lot of stuff.  The classic Margherita is just awesome when done like that with fresh buffalo mozzarella.  The basil leaves are torn up and thrown on as soon as it comes out.  So simple, but light years beyond any sort of stuff we get delivered in a cardboard box. Oh, and Italy has a lot of more conventional modern pizza, too.  They don't like to weigh theirs down with like our Franken-pizzas.


From my experience in Italy, I agree completely.  Relatively simple, strong fresh flavors. I also recall years ago, right before Italy converted to the Euro, you could get great street snacks for $0.50.  And their ham sandwiches were made with prosciutto for God's sake.
 
2013-06-21 10:46:53 AM  

NostroZ: question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP


stop-liking-what-i-dont-like.jpg
 
2013-06-21 10:47:53 AM  
Subby is right, nothing should ever change. That's why I only eat foraged roots and raw meat on the bone, preferably with the animal's heart still beating.
 
2013-06-21 10:56:50 AM  
I found the trick to great pizza with a really crisp crust: forget the pizza stone and cook on a broiler tray, one of these.
 
2013-06-21 10:59:59 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I found the trick to great pizza with a really crisp crust: forget the pizza stone and cook on a broiler tray, one of these.


I have had good luck with cooking pizzas on a cast iron griddle. I heat the griddle on the stove under two burners until it's hot as shiat. Then put in broiler and put the pizza on it. It's not the same as 1000+ degree wood burning oven but it does pretty good for home made pizza.
 
2013-06-21 11:17:35 AM  
question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP


If you think it is a good idea to use all caps and bolded text to question someones maturity level; you might be an idiot
 
2013-06-21 11:32:56 AM  
How to make the best crust: use beer and honey instead of water and sugar.
 
2013-06-21 11:34:25 AM  

Nabb1: cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food

You can find it in America.  I've had the wood-fired brick oven stuff in Italy and in the US.  The key is they tend to keep it simple.  The crust is thing, the thing cooks up in minutes because the oven is like 1200 degrees or something ridiculous, so they don't weigh it down with a lot of stuff.  The classic Margherita is just awesome when done like that with fresh buffalo mozzarella.  The basil leaves are torn up and thrown on as soon as it comes out.  So simple, but light years beyond any sort of stuff we get delivered in a cardboard box. Oh, and Italy has a lot of more conventional modern pizza, too.  They don't like to weigh theirs down with like our Franken-pizzas.


And for FSM's sake, *don't* ask for Parmesan cheese to sprinkle on top.

Once had a whole pizzeria in Florence go silent as the waiter explained, "We don't do that, you American fool."
 
2013-06-21 11:42:29 AM  

CMYK and PMS: question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP

If you think it is a good idea to use all caps and bolded text to question someones maturity level; you might be an idiot


THIS IS HOW PEOPLE SPEAK LOUDLY ONLINE.

PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.

/Done and happily know that you will not listen... hot dogs and pizza has somehow become a national food... and we wonder why we're the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world.
 
2013-06-21 11:47:59 AM  

NostroZ: CMYK and PMS: question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP

If you think it is a good idea to use all caps and bolded text to question someones maturity level; you might be an idiot

THIS IS HOW PEOPLE SPEAK LOUDLY ONLINE.

PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.

/Done and happily know that you will not listen... hot dogs and pizza has somehow become a national food... and we wonder why we're the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world.


You're a real asshat.  That takes effort.
 
2013-06-21 11:52:18 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I found the trick to great pizza with a really crisp crust: forget the pizza stone and cook on a broiler tray, one of these.


I agree on the pizza stone.  They never seem to get hot enough to be worthwhile.  I've always used one of those round pizza pans with the holes.  Perfect every time.  I prefer a slightly thicker when making at home.  I'm also lucky to have a wood-burning place not far from me that makes every pizza on the spot, from scratch.  They don't even sell slices - just pies.  Thin crust, fresh-sliced mozz, a little bit of char on the crust from the stove.

Recently we did home made sauce, a light sprinkle of asiago cheese, kalamata olives sliced just before cooking, green peppers and a little smoked sun-dried tomato.  DELICIOUS.
 
2013-06-21 11:56:05 AM  
img.fark.net

I just threw up in my mouth.
 
2013-06-21 11:57:32 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.

/Done and happily know that you will not listen... hot dogs and pizza has somehow become a national food... and we wonder why we're the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world.

You're a real asshat.  That takes effort.


Thank you.  I've realized that PIZZA stands for EVERYTHING I HATE about America.  It's a fat, lazy, cheap food available everywhere and idiots talk about it like it's culinary heaven.  I've realized I have NOTHING in common with people who 'love pizza' because they are disgusting slobs who have NO TASTE in FOOD.

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Have some more PIZZA FATTY!
 
2013-06-21 11:58:28 AM  

paidhima: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I found the trick to great pizza with a really crisp crust: forget the pizza stone and cook on a broiler tray, one of these.

I agree on the pizza stone.  They never seem to get hot enough to be worthwhile.  I've always used one of those round pizza pans with the holes.  Perfect every time.  I prefer a slightly thicker when making at home.  I'm also lucky to have a wood-burning place not far from me that makes every pizza on the spot, from scratch.  They don't even sell slices - just pies.  Thin crust, fresh-sliced mozz, a little bit of char on the crust from the stove.

Recently we did home made sauce, a light sprinkle of asiago cheese, kalamata olives sliced just before cooking, green peppers and a little smoked sun-dried tomato.  DELICIOUS.


I've found that the amount of yeast used and thickness of the starting crust determines how crispy the pizza is when using a stone.  So unless it's straight-up Neapolitan style, very thin, low yeast crust, I've found that cooking the crust for 2 minutes prior to topping it does the trick.  Crisp, slightly charred, slightly bubbly crust.
 
2013-06-21 12:02:52 PM  

question_dj: I've found that the amount of yeast used and thickness of the starting crust determines how crispy the pizza is when using a stone.  So unless it's straight-up Neapolitan style, very thin, low yeast crust, I've found that cooking the crust for 2 minutes prior to topping it does the trick.  Crisp, slightly charred, slightly bubbly crust.


Please excuse my above comments regarding pizza consumption, as it does not reflect the exception to the rule:  People who love to make their OWN pizza.  You are obviously not lazy, this takes work, and I'm sure tastes much better than the crap you buy at the store.  I was referring to people who do know how to cook and consume pizza as though it's a culinary masterpiece.  (hint: masterpieces have more than four basic ingredients)
 
2013-06-21 12:06:12 PM  

NostroZ: Thank you.  I've realized that PIZZA stands for EVERYTHING I HATE about America.  I


you sound like a liberal.
/ an a complete ass who never gets invited to fun parties
 
2013-06-21 12:06:34 PM  
CMYK and PMS: question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP

If you think it is a good idea to use all caps and bolded text to question someones maturity level; you might be an idiot

THIS IS HOW PEOPLE SPEAK LOUDLY ONLINE.

PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.

/Done and happily know that you will not listen... hot dogs and pizza has somehow become a national food... and we wonder why we're the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world.


Saying something stupid loudly doesn't make it any less stupid. It is just loud and stupid. Again it is a maturity thing; ask you mother about it. After she explains it to you then you can come back and I will attempt to explain "real food" to you.
 
2013-06-21 12:11:47 PM  

NostroZ: (hint: masterpieces have more than four basic ingredients)


Begs to disagree: 
crasstalk.com

It's not so much your opinion that is offensive (we can all agree that a lot of people love really crappy pizza) - it's the extremely childish and immature way that you present your argument.
 
2013-06-21 12:12:13 PM  

CMYK and PMS: Saying something stupid loudly doesn't make it any less stupid. It is just loud and stupid. Again it is a maturity thing; ask you mother about it. After she explains it to you then you can come back and I will attempt to explain "real food" to you.


LOL.  My mother is where I learned what REAL FOOD is.
I learned to hate pizza & hot dogs from my mother.  I also learned to speak my mind from her.

Real food is something that has NUTRITIOUS VALUE and a balanced meal to provide for you.  Pizza is not that.  I know you'd prefer not to hear that marinara sauce is not the same as eating a tomato.  Also, that you should be eating fruits and vegetables at the rate you eat crust / cheese... but deep down, I'm sure you knew this and wanted to insult me as a way to tamp down that feeling of self mutilation with food.
 
2013-06-21 12:19:10 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: NostroZ: (hint: masterpieces have more than four basic ingredients)

Begs to disagree: 
[crasstalk.com image 500x374]

It's not so much your opinion that is offensive (we can all agree that a lot of people love really crappy pizza) - it's the extremely childish and immature way that you present your argument.


Point taken.
I was just venting a frustration I have that I tend to keep to myself out of respect for people I know.
Thankfully, I do not know ANY of you and am not worried that I will sour our relations with a "stop liking what I don't like" behavior.  Pizza has for some holds an emotional position in people's mind, akin to the grilled cheese and tomato soup combo.  It's an emotional connection to the food/ritual of eating it.

My immaturity is a way for me to vent out my feelings about a topic that I've thought about, contended against, and eventually resigned to as a cultural practice.  Pizza is a national food.  Pizza is to Americans what Gyros is to the Greek.  (processed street food that people emotionally defend)
 
2013-06-21 12:34:47 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: NostroZ: CMYK and PMS: question_dj: You want pizza?  Check out any of the places certified by this organization.  It's almost transcendental, it's so good.

http://americas.pizzanapoletana.org/

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.

Wuh!?  The only real difference between a New York pie and a Neapolitan are minor.  New York style takes more liberties with toppings and variations on sauces.  But they're essentially the same thing, made the same way.

FARK PIZZA - IT'S A KIDS FOOD - IF YOU LOVE PIZZA AS AN ADULT - GROW THE FARK UP

If you think it is a good idea to use all caps and bolded text to question someones maturity level; you might be an idiot

THIS IS HOW PEOPLE SPEAK LOUDLY ONLINE.

PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.

/Done and happily know that you will not listen... hot dogs and pizza has somehow become a national food... and we wonder why we're the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world.

You're a real asshat.  That takes effort.


He works hard at it too.
 
2013-06-21 12:47:59 PM  

NostroZ: I also learned to speak my mind from her.


Wow, in all my years on Fark, the only other person I've come close to ignoring is Tatsuma.  Today is a new day.

/I'm also wondering what NostroZ's mother's Fark handle is so I can ignore that too.
 
2013-06-21 12:52:27 PM  

mrlewish: Italian pizza is the abomination.. There I said it.  The best thing that happened to pizza is that it came to the states.


img.fark.net

/Damned straight!
 
2013-06-21 12:57:19 PM  
CMYK and PMS: Saying something stupid loudly doesn't make it any less stupid. It is just loud and stupid. Again it is a maturity thing; ask you mother about it. After she explains it to you then you can come back and I will attempt to explain "real food" to you.

LOL.  My mother is where I learned what REAL FOOD is.
I learned to hate pizza & hot dogs from my mother.  I also learned to speak my mind from her.

Real food is something that has NUTRITIOUS VALUE and a balanced meal to provide for you.  Pizza is not that.  I know you'd prefer not to hear that marinara sauce is not the same as eating a tomato.  Also, that you should be eating fruits and vegetables at the rate you eat crust / cheese... but deep down, I'm sure you knew this and wanted to insult me as a way to tamp down that feeling of self mutilation with food.


I'm sorry but we are going to need a note from your mother that shows she has explained maturity to you. You have already established yourself as an idiot who has nothing to say. I will do my best to help teach you but I am going to need that note first. A little good faith effort on your part.
 
2013-06-21 01:02:16 PM  

NostroZ: Real food is something that has NUTRITIOUS VALUE and a balanced meal to provide for you.


What a boring life.

Ooh, I just remembered I have leftover pizza in my fridge! AWESOME!
 
2013-06-21 01:34:18 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-21 01:37:22 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: Nabb1: cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food

You can find it in America.  I've had the wood-fired brick oven stuff in Italy and in the US.  The key is they tend to keep it simple.  The crust is thing, the thing cooks up in minutes because the oven is like 1200 degrees or something ridiculous, so they don't weigh it down with a lot of stuff.  The classic Margherita is just awesome when done like that with fresh buffalo mozzarella.  The basil leaves are torn up and thrown on as soon as it comes out.  So simple, but light years beyond any sort of stuff we get delivered in a cardboard box. Oh, and Italy has a lot of more conventional modern pizza, too.  They don't like to weigh theirs down with like our Franken-pizzas.

And for FSM's sake, *don't* ask for Parmesan cheese to sprinkle on top.

Once had a whole pizzeria in Florence go silent as the waiter explained, "We don't do that, you American fool."





So you went to Italy and had a crappt waiter? It happens
 
2013-06-21 01:42:56 PM  

NostroZ: PIZZA IS A DISGUSTING KIDS FOOD.  It is fatty, has little nutritious value, and tastes atrocious when cold.  I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TO GET GROW UP & EAT REAL FOOD.


Thank you for clarifying. I find that your opinion is much more important than my personal preferences.
Feel free to pipe in on any topics in the politics tab too!
 
2013-06-21 01:44:05 PM  
I've had pretty good luck with pizza right on the grill. Either make your own dough or get some pre made stuff at the grocery store, stretch it out, brush on a coat of olive oil, pick up and stretch the dough out a little more and place it on the grill oil side down. Once the dough is on the grill, brush a layer on olive oil on the side facing up and give it about five minutes or so, until the bottom is golden brown and starting to get crispy. Flip it over and put sauce, cheese and toppings on. I usually do just sauce and cheese or tomatoes, mozzarella and basil. Keeping the toppings to a minimum is usually best since all the stretching out at the beginning yields a fairly thin crust.
 
2013-06-21 01:47:46 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: Nabb1: cman: I always wanted to try a classical Italian pizza

The closest thing I can find around here is Greek food

You can find it in America.  I've had the wood-fired brick oven stuff in Italy and in the US.  The key is they tend to keep it simple.  The crust is thing, the thing cooks up in minutes because the oven is like 1200 degrees or something ridiculous, so they don't weigh it down with a lot of stuff.  The classic Margherita is just awesome when done like that with fresh buffalo mozzarella.  The basil leaves are torn up and thrown on as soon as it comes out.  So simple, but light years beyond any sort of stuff we get delivered in a cardboard box. Oh, and Italy has a lot of more conventional modern pizza, too.  They don't like to weigh theirs down with like our Franken-pizzas.

And for FSM's sake, *don't* ask for Parmesan cheese to sprinkle on top.

Once had a whole pizzeria in Florence go silent as the waiter explained, "We don't do that, you American fool."


Gosh, remind me never to ask for crazy bread from that guy!
 
2013-06-21 01:49:44 PM  

Current Resident: [i.imgur.com image 361x1500]


new keyboard, please
 
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