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2013-06-21 10:17:30 AM
No Poltergeist 1 & 2 where people kept dying?
 
2013-06-21 10:40:43 AM

Mugato: No Poltergeist 1 & 2 where people kept dying?


Likewise, no Twilight Zone: The Movie?

Decapitating one of the stars of the movie and a child actor, and crushing another child under a helicopter kind of overshadows everything else.
 
2013-06-21 10:50:02 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Likewise, no Twilight Zone: The Movie?


Yeah, forgot about that one. Those are a little bigger that some behind the scene squabbling, budget problems and a mechanical shark that wouldn't work.
 
2013-06-21 10:54:06 AM
No Ishtar either, the stories of that debacle are legendary.
 
2013-06-21 11:00:06 AM
List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow
 
2013-06-21 11:04:53 AM

nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow


Wizard of Oz does deserve to be on the list, since they went through something like four directors, nearly killed Buddy Ebson, and tried to disfigure Margaret Hamilton.
 
2013-06-21 11:05:51 AM
Oh, and Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, half the people only know of it because of Heath Ledger's death.
 
2013-06-21 11:44:06 AM

nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow


Superman Returns and Xmen The Last Stand
 
2013-06-21 11:47:39 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow

Superman Returns and Xmen The Last Stand


Superman II
 
2013-06-21 11:50:08 AM
Enter the Dragon
The Dark Knight

/seeing as major deaths were before the films release
 
2013-06-21 11:55:39 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow

Superman Returns and Xmen The Last Stand


Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus (thanks nmrsnr)

Heaven's Gate (the movie, not the cult)
Cleopatra with Burton and Taylor
 
2013-06-21 11:55:43 AM
I might be mistaken, but didn't Martin Sheen replace the lead that had a heart attack during the filming of Apocalypse Now?

/off to study it out...
 
2013-06-21 11:56:13 AM
Dark Knight Rises for the Aurora shooting?
 
2013-06-21 11:57:15 AM

doxer: /seeing as major deaths were before the films release


But filming and post production were finished by the time Heath Ledger and Bruce Lee died, so it didn't really effect the making of the movies.
 
2013-06-21 11:58:51 AM

nmrsnr: doxer: /seeing as major deaths were before the films release

But filming and post production were finished by the time Heath Ledger and Bruce Lee died, so it didn't really effect the making of the movies.


Yeah, but the topic is "Off-screen overshadowing", so they would still be applicable.
 
2013-06-21 11:59:44 AM

nmrsnr: doxer: /seeing as major deaths were before the films release

But filming and post production were finished by the time Heath Ledger and Bruce Lee died, so it didn't really effect the making of the movies.


True, I guess for Lee it would be Game of Death then.
 
2013-06-21 12:01:49 PM

Pop and Miracle Whip: I might be mistaken, but didn't Martin Sheen replace the lead that had a heart attack during the filming of Apocalypse Now?

/off to study it out...


He had a heart attack during filming
 
2013-06-21 12:07:07 PM

KingKauff: Pop and Miracle Whip: I might be mistaken, but didn't Martin Sheen replace the lead that had a heart attack during the filming of Apocalypse Now?

/off to study it out...

He had a heart attack during filming


I believe he replaced Harvey Keitel who didn't have a heart attack
 
2013-06-21 12:07:37 PM

phyrkrakr: IdBeCrazyIf: nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow

Superman Returns and Xmen The Last Stand

Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus (thanks nmrsnr)

Heaven's Gate (the movie, not the cult)
Cleopatra with Burton and Taylor


Eiger Sanction (decapitation).
 
2013-06-21 12:09:10 PM

phyrkrakr: IdBeCrazyIf: nmrsnr: List fails without "The Crow"

Alright, clearly it's time to make our own list of movies that should have been on this list. So far:

Poltergeist 1&2
Twilight Zone: The Movie
The Crow

Superman Returns and Xmen The Last Stand

Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus (thanks nmrsnr)

Heaven's Gate (the movie, not the cult)
Cleopatra with Burton and Taylor


Wait, what the fark was on the FTA list if none of those?Apocolypse Now, I guess. Grumble. Off to read. e
 
2013-06-21 12:09:39 PM
The ConquerorWhile most of these films are examples of catastrophes taking place during a production, the tragedy of The Conqueror only revealed itself in retrospect. John Wayne was cast in the dubious role of Genghis Khan - perhaps offending the gods of good taste - and much of the film was shot 137 miles downwind of the Nevada Test Site. Over the next few decades, no less than 91 cast and crew members developed some form of cancer, which is believed to be tied to the location's hazardous radiation.

I did not know that.
 
2013-06-21 12:11:47 PM

basemetal: The ConquerorWhile most of these films are examples of catastrophes taking place during a production, the tragedy of The Conqueror only revealed itself in retrospect. John Wayne was cast in the dubious role of Genghis Khan - perhaps offending the gods of good taste - and much of the film was shot 137 miles downwind of the Nevada Test Site. Over the next few decades, no less than 91 cast and crew members developed some form of cancer, which is believed to be tied to the location's hazardous radiation.

I did not know that.


Yup and most of the cancers were stomach/intestinal
 
2013-06-21 12:18:58 PM
Oh, and while the drama didn't really overshadow it, "Titanic" went super over budget, to the point that James Cameron had a razor blade with the note "use if film sucks" on it.
 
2013-06-21 12:20:17 PM

TheraTx: KingKauff: Pop and Miracle Whip: I might be mistaken, but didn't Martin Sheen replace the lead that had a heart attack during the filming of Apocalypse Now?

/off to study it out...

He had a heart attack during filming

I believe he replaced Harvey Keitel who didn't have a heart attack


Due to the stress of filming, as well as copious amounts of alcohol and heroin, Martin Sheen had a heart attack. FFC actually lied to the studios, saying it was stomach trouble, and had Martin's brother film several weeks of footage (mostly mid to long shots and back shots) with Joe, which he sent as dailies to the studio.
 
2013-06-21 12:21:18 PM
I only saw one movie listed and I'm not planning on seeing it until it comes on Netflix and I have no idea, nor do I care about the off-screen drama.

People magazine reader's problems.
 
2013-06-21 12:28:11 PM

nmrsnr: Oh, and while the drama didn't really overshadow it, "Titanic" went super over budget, to the point that James Cameron had a razor blade with the note "use if film sucks" on it.


As I remember, Cameron waived his director's fee to help with the budget, only getting paid for writing the movie.

Having seen the movie, I would have to say the wrong guy got paid.
 
2013-06-21 12:30:18 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Likewise, no Twilight Zone: The Movie?


That's the one I expected to see.
 
2013-06-21 12:30:43 PM
The author wonders if Coppola saw the irony in his dilemma while filming an adaption of, what is essentially, "Heart of Darkness"?
Did the author really write this story without bothering to WATCH "Hearts of Darkness"?
Pathetic.
 
2013-06-21 12:39:03 PM
Citizen Kane, with the whole Welles/Hearst battle?

(For that matter, Touch of Evil and The Magnificent Ambersons.)
 
2013-06-21 12:40:36 PM
How about the lightning strikes during the Passion of the Christ.
 
2013-06-21 12:43:51 PM
Damn, I thought this was gonna be about stuff that happened in the movie, but off-camera.
 
2013-06-21 12:47:45 PM

WippitGuud: How about the lightning strikes during the Passion of the Christ.


Or the flooding during production of Russel Crow's Noah


nmrsnr: Oh, and while the drama didn't really overshadow it, "Titanic" went super over budget, to the point that James Cameron had a razor blade with the note "use if film sucks" on it.


Didn't Waterworld go extremely over budget?
 
2013-06-21 12:53:36 PM

texdent: Didn't Waterworld go extremely over budget?


Yeah, but it's on the list in TFA, and it also didn't make any money back. Titanic made more money than any movie previous.
 
2013-06-21 12:58:33 PM
I'll also add:

Exorcist (cursed film and on-set incidents)
Three Kings (Russell Vs.  Clooney)
The Last Movie (Dennis Hopper + alcohol and drugs)
Empires of the Deep (chinese vanity project with a huge budget)
 
2013-06-21 01:04:42 PM

nmrsnr: doxer: /seeing as major deaths were before the films release

But filming and post production were finished by the time Heath Ledger and Bruce Lee died, so it didn't really effect the making of the movies.


Ledger died mid production, which is why his character was rewritten to look different in each fantasy world.
 
2013-06-21 01:04:54 PM
Is "Cleopatra" on it? Yep, it is.

Almost bankrupted Fox by the stupidity of it all.
 
2013-06-21 01:05:47 PM

nmrsnr: texdent: Didn't Waterworld go extremely over budget?

Yeah, but it's on the list in TFA, and it also didn't make any money back.


Actually it did make a profit, once you factor in home video sales.
 
2013-06-21 01:09:44 PM
Or anything by Roman Polanski and Woody Allen after their "scandals"?
 
2013-06-21 01:10:03 PM
A movie with Chow Yun-Fat? Gangsters? Farking Weinsteins~!
 
2013-06-21 01:11:21 PM

texdent: Didn't Waterworld go extremely over budget?


It was scheduled for 100m and it finished at 175m, and Costner almost died during one scene where his legs got caught in rigging

WippitGuud: How about the lightning strikes during the Passion of the Christ.


There was also a moment where during the flogging scene one of the protective metal plates protecting the back of the actor came loose and he actually got a full one flog from one of the tails

I will also add movie controversy there is the infamous on screen deaths of Vic Morrow and the child actors in Twilight Zone, and Triple X where Diesel's stunt double the part where XXX is zip lining down to the sub, he missed the sub and hit the bridge and died on impact. It was edited out for the final cut of the film.
 
2013-06-21 01:12:03 PM
I submit Queen of the Damned. Hard to continue voice over work from the grave.
 
2013-06-21 01:12:43 PM

sjmcc13: Actually it did make a profit, once you factor in home video sales.


What's funny is that in this day and age it wouldn't have, it only commanded high sales in video because of the brick and mortar VHS tape sale agreement with video stores. I was managing a Hollywood Video at the time and I think the initial tapes were close to 230 a piece.
 
2013-06-21 01:15:58 PM

BATMANATEE: nmrsnr: doxer: /seeing as major deaths were before the films release

But filming and post production were finished by the time Heath Ledger and Bruce Lee died, so it didn't really effect the making of the movies.

Ledger died mid production, which is why his character was rewritten to look different in each fantasy world.


Wrong movie, I'm talking about The Dark Knight here, I mention Imaginarium earlier as belonging on the list.
 
2013-06-21 01:18:24 PM

Rwa2play: A movie with Chow Yun-Fat? Gangsters? Farking Weinsteins~!


And Ken Wantanabe.

Did they ever release the original directors cut of Cleopatra and Heaven's Gate.  For some reason I want to experience a 5-6 hour movie where the director though, "All of this is too important to be cut".
 
2013-06-21 01:22:41 PM
Also not drama during filming, but the director of "Cannibal Holocaust" went on trial for murdering his cast, and had to have the lead actress take the stand to testify that he didn't murder her.
 
2013-06-21 01:35:48 PM

nmrsnr: Also not drama during filming, but the director of "Cannibal Holocaust" went on trial for murdering his cast, and had to have the lead actress take the stand to testify that he didn't murder her.


I need to see that movie. It's apparently banned in a whole lot of countries.
 
2013-06-21 01:36:15 PM

Unauthorized Bratwurst: Citizen Kane, with the whole Welles/Hearst battle?


I've wondered if "RKO 281" was an accurate portrayal of those events. I'd like to think that Louis B Mayer finally gave approval because Hearst made an anti-Semitic slur.
 
2013-06-21 01:54:40 PM

Saiga410: All of this is too important to be cut


Not that it was 'overshadowed by behind the scenes events', but the first movie that popped
into my head when I read the quoted phrase was this one.

Loooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg movie, but good. Except for that damned phone ringing over and over and over again in the beginning.
And IIRC the nearly 4 hour version was 45 minutes shorter than the director's final cut.
 
2013-06-21 02:02:43 PM
IdBeCrazyIf:
I will also add movie controversy there is the infamous on screen deaths of Vic Morrow and the child actors in Twilight Zone, and Triple X where Diesel's stunt double the part where XXX is zip lining down to the sub, he missed the sub and hit the bridge and died on impact. It was edited out for the final cut of the film.

Missing: The Viking (1931). As a movie, surveillance footage of a random Farker flossing would overshadow it. But the body count (27 lost when dynamite took out a ship) is a record that I hope no one will ever break.
 
2013-06-21 02:12:15 PM
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