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(Toronto Sun)   Where's the one place former Sabres coach Lindy Ruff could go that would piss off EVERYONE in Buffalo?   (torontosun.com) divider line 38
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2013-06-21 11:36:43 AM
In before the bitaching about Brett Hull and the old crease rule.
 
2013-06-21 11:39:28 AM

desertgeek: In before the bitaching about Brett Hull and the old crease rule.


Damnit!
ithappenedonhockeynight.cbc.ca
 
2013-06-21 11:45:48 AM

soopey: desertgeek: In before the bitaching about Brett Hull and the old crease rule.

Damnit!
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F both of you.  I WAS going to give my liver the day off.
 
2013-06-21 11:46:59 AM
Also before that picture gets spammed, the NHL never denied Hull was in the crease. They said he was allowed to be.
 
2013-06-21 11:47:10 AM
I've always felt the refs knew it shouldn't have been a goal, but they checked their watch, realized it was past their bedtime, and said "fark it, it's a goal."
 
2013-06-21 11:57:20 AM

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I've always felt the refs knew it shouldn't have been a goal, but they checked their watch, realized it was past their bedtime, and said "fark it, it's a goal."


It was the right call even if it wasn't by the letter of the rule at the time.

It was an awful rule that farked up the whole season, that's why they changed it (at least in enforcement) the next year.
 
2013-06-21 11:59:09 AM
 
2013-06-21 12:06:16 PM

ElwoodCuse: Also before that picture gets spammed, the NHL never denied Hull was in the crease. They said he was allowed to be.


That's true, but that goal was probably the only time that rule was interpreted in that way the whole season. Every other time it would have been called back.

On the plus side, it was probably a big factor in getting that rule removed. So thanks for taking one for the team, Buffalo.
 
2013-06-21 12:10:10 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Dear Buffalo...we're sorry


ok I lol'd
 
2013-06-21 12:15:21 PM

ElwoodCuse: Also before that picture gets spammed, the NHL never denied Hull was in the crease. They said he was allowed to be.


drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I've always felt the refs knew it shouldn't have been a goal, but they checked their watch, realized it was past their bedtime, and said "fark it, it's a goal."


Yeah.  The refs called it good and hit the bars.  The league then said he was allowed to be in the crease because he had possession of the puck.  Despite the fact that he had taken a shot.  It was a complete CYA move by the league to protect their refs, and complete BS.
 
kab
2013-06-21 12:34:44 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Yeah. The refs called it good and hit the bars. The league then said he was allowed to be in the crease because he had possession of the puck. Despite the fact that he had taken a shot. It was a complete CYA move by the league to protect their refs, and complete BS.


NHL gets to simply re-write the rules as they go, which is why interference is called about 1/16th of the time it's actually done.

And why, for example, Malkin and Bergeron weren't both tossed out of the game for fighting after the end of a period in the last round.

"We've altered the rule book.  Pray we don't alter it further"
 
2013-06-21 12:39:46 PM

kab: NHL gets to simply re-write the rules as they go, which is why interference is called about 1/16th of the time it's actually done.

And why, for example, Malkin and Bergeron weren't both tossed out of the game for fighting after the end of a period in the last round.


Every sport does this.  Rules always change as the stakes get higher and the game is near the end.
 
2013-06-21 12:43:31 PM
HAI GUIZE WHATS GOING ON IN HERE??

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/ got over it
 
2013-06-21 12:49:45 PM
Scott Norwood?
 
2013-06-21 12:53:56 PM
I'm relatively excited for the draft this year.  It'll be really difficult for the Sabres to move up, but Darcy says he's trying, and seems to have a guy he wants to pick in the top 6.  With Enroth signed, I wonder what kind of return they could get for Miller.
 
2013-06-21 12:57:38 PM

AUAIOMRN: ElwoodCuse: Also before that picture gets spammed, the NHL never denied Hull was in the crease. They said he was allowed to be.

That's true, but that goal was probably the only time that rule was interpreted in that way the whole season. Every other time it would have been called back.

On the plus side, it was probably a big factor in getting that rule removed. So thanks for taking one for the team, Buffalo.


I'm pretty sure it was interpreted the same way in an earlier game that same post season.  I believe it was a game where the Blues scored the same way.   It was a similar possession interpretation that is still used when shots are taken on goal and saves are made for purposes of stopping a delayed penalty.  The goalie making a save doesn't stop play.
 
2013-06-21 01:15:21 PM
I'm glad we're getting a good coach. The Stars F'd up when they fired Hitchcock, and again when they fired Tippett.
 
2013-06-21 01:17:05 PM
In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.
 
2013-06-21 02:20:51 PM
I'm not pissed off.  A little surprised that Lindy was able to put it behind him.  At the time, he was more livid over the goal than anyone.  But not pissed off in the slightest.

He's a good coach and hopefully he'll do well in Dallas.  He just wore out his stay in Buffalo and lost the players some time ago.  Happens with any coach.  Stay long enough and your message stops getting through.  And honestly, I think Ruff was kind of going through the motions towards the end.  He needed a fresh start badly.

No, I'm not pissed off in the slightest about where Ruff goes.  What pisses me off as a Sabres fan is that Regier made the most conservative possible choice in replacing him, just handing Rolston the job after a mediocre quarter season.  He didn't even conduct an actual coaching search.  He didn't interview anyone outside the organization.  He didn't even consider one of the most talked about names (Cooper, Eakins, Roy) - all of whom now have NHL coaching jobs elsewhere.  That's what pisses me off.
 
2013-06-21 02:42:54 PM

Doc Daneeka: I'm not pissed off.  A little surprised that Lindy was able to put it behind him.  At the time, he was more livid over the goal than anyone.  But not pissed off in the slightest.

He's a good coach and hopefully he'll do well in Dallas.  He just wore out his stay in Buffalo and lost the players some time ago.  Happens with any coach.  Stay long enough and your message stops getting through.  And honestly, I think Ruff was kind of going through the motions towards the end.  He needed a fresh start badly.

No, I'm not pissed off in the slightest about where Ruff goes.  What pisses me off as a Sabres fan is that Regier made the most conservative possible choice in replacing him, just handing Rolston the job after a mediocre quarter season.  He didn't even conduct an actual coaching search.  He didn't interview anyone outside the organization.  He didn't even consider one of the most talked about names (Cooper, Eakins, Roy) - all of whom now have NHL coaching jobs elsewhere.  That's what pisses me off.


Well, to be honest I don't think Roy would have gone anywhere except Colorado or Montreal. If one of those two jobs wasn't available he would have just stayed in the Q another year.
 
2013-06-21 03:10:34 PM

Evilsmurf: Doc Daneeka: I'm not pissed off.  A little surprised that Lindy was able to put it behind him.  At the time, he was more livid over the goal than anyone.  But not pissed off in the slightest.

He's a good coach and hopefully he'll do well in Dallas.  He just wore out his stay in Buffalo and lost the players some time ago.  Happens with any coach.  Stay long enough and your message stops getting through.  And honestly, I think Ruff was kind of going through the motions towards the end.  He needed a fresh start badly.

No, I'm not pissed off in the slightest about where Ruff goes.  What pisses me off as a Sabres fan is that Regier made the most conservative possible choice in replacing him, just handing Rolston the job after a mediocre quarter season.  He didn't even conduct an actual coaching search.  He didn't interview anyone outside the organization.  He didn't even consider one of the most talked about names (Cooper, Eakins, Roy) - all of whom now have NHL coaching jobs elsewhere.  That's what pisses me off.

Well, to be honest I don't think Roy would have gone anywhere except Colorado or Montreal. If one of those two jobs wasn't available he would have just stayed in the Q another year.


But Regier didn't even pursue it.  Didn't even inquire.

That's my problem.  There was no legit coaching search, no interviews, nobody brought in from outside the organization.  No serious evaluation.  Regier takes the path of least resistance.  In this case, that means simply calling up the AHL coach, then handing him the job.

This is nothing against Ron Rolston.  Maybe (hopefully) he'll turn out to be a great coach.  I'm just pissed at the way the process was conducted, and the way Regier manages the team's direction in general.  Like he doesn't give a shiat.
 
Slu
2013-06-21 03:23:58 PM

Doc Daneeka: Evilsmurf: Doc Daneeka: I'm not pissed off.  A little surprised that Lindy was able to put it behind him.  At the time, he was more livid over the goal than anyone.  But not pissed off in the slightest.

He's a good coach and hopefully he'll do well in Dallas.  He just wore out his stay in Buffalo and lost the players some time ago.  Happens with any coach.  Stay long enough and your message stops getting through.  And honestly, I think Ruff was kind of going through the motions towards the end.  He needed a fresh start badly.

No, I'm not pissed off in the slightest about where Ruff goes.  What pisses me off as a Sabres fan is that Regier made the most conservative possible choice in replacing him, just handing Rolston the job after a mediocre quarter season.  He didn't even conduct an actual coaching search.  He didn't interview anyone outside the organization.  He didn't even consider one of the most talked about names (Cooper, Eakins, Roy) - all of whom now have NHL coaching jobs elsewhere.  That's what pisses me off.

Well, to be honest I don't think Roy would have gone anywhere except Colorado or Montreal. If one of those two jobs wasn't available he would have just stayed in the Q another year.

But Regier didn't even pursue it.  Didn't even inquire.

That's my problem.  There was no legit coaching search, no interviews, nobody brought in from outside the organization.  No serious evaluation.  Regier takes the path of least resistance.  In this case, that means simply calling up the AHL coach, then handing him the job.

This is nothing against Ron Rolston.  Maybe (hopefully) he'll turn out to be a great coach.  I'm just pissed at the way the process was conducted, and the way Regier manages the team's direction in general.  Like he doesn't give a shiat.


To me, this is an ownership problem.  Why does Darcy still have a job?  The shelves for your beer in the the bathrooms at the arena are nice and all, but Pegula doesn't seem too interested in winning to me.  And I am not a Sabres fan, but I do live in Buffalo.
 
2013-06-21 03:42:46 PM

Flappyhead: In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.


And the rumor is that the Canucks are leaning heavily towards signing Tortorella. Funny how that could work out.
 
2013-06-21 03:50:25 PM

Flappyhead: In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.


He just demands they dive everywhere else.
 
2013-06-21 04:52:17 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  That guy is snakebit.

Abandons all hope of ever seeing Lord Stanleys Mug in Big D again.

smh
 
2013-06-21 05:14:14 PM
I wonder if the Stars will have a pumpkin carving contest this coming Halloween:

www.buffalo.com
 
2013-06-21 06:07:15 PM

Doc Daneeka: .

No, I'm not pissed off in the slightest about where Ruff goes.  What pisses me off as a Sabres fan is that Regier made the most conservative possible choice in replacing him, just handing Rolston the job after a mediocre quarter season.  He didn't even conduct an actual coaching search.  He didn't interview anyone outside the organization.  He didn't even consider one of the most talked about names (Cooper, Eakins, Roy) - all of whom now have NHL coaching jobs elsewhere.  That's what pisses me off.


Agreed, and I'm a Leafs fan.  That was flat out pussyfooted of Regier and I have a feeling the Sabres are gonna be regretting it.
 
2013-06-21 06:21:28 PM

germ78: Flappyhead: In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.

And the rumor is that the Canucks are leaning heavily towards signing Tortorella. Funny how that could work out.


It's sad how scared NHL GM's are in taking chances on some new, young coach that might actually bring something new to the league.
 
2013-06-21 06:30:38 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  That guy is snakebit.

Abandons all hope of ever seeing Lord Stanleys Mug in Big D again.

smh


I'm kind of having a tough time with this too, although I don't know if the dictator would have been any better. Of the two guys they were down to, he fits better than Torts.

/would rather have had AV
 
2013-06-21 06:48:58 PM

Agent Nick Fury: germ78: Flappyhead: In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.

And the rumor is that the Canucks are leaning heavily towards signing Tortorella. Funny how that could work out.

It's sad how scared NHL GM's are in taking chances on some new, young coach that might actually bring something new to the league.


New Coaches starting next year
Patrick Roy
Dallas Eakins

New Coaches with little to some NHL experience
Ron Rolston
Jon Cooper
Mike Yeo
Kevin Dineen
Kirk Muller
Adam Oates

I'm not really trying too hard to prove a point, and I know you said new young coaches, but there's been a decent influx of new coaches into the NHL system. Most of them are ex-NHLers but new blood none the less.

The prospect of Roy doing more damage to that franchise is quite interesting, yes?
It will also be interesting to see what Eakins does with that Oilers team.
 
2013-06-21 07:05:59 PM

Agent Nick Fury: It's sad how scared NHL GM's are in taking chances on some new, young coach that might actually bring something new to the league.


Yeah, having a new, young coach did wonders for Dallas.
 
2013-06-21 07:06:01 PM

triptheory: Agent Nick Fury: germ78: Flappyhead: In other coaching news, Vigneault got the job in New York.  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=425991  It'll be interesting to see what the Rangers can do with a more offensive minded coach who isn't demanding that every player dive face first in front of the puck.

And the rumor is that the Canucks are leaning heavily towards signing Tortorella. Funny how that could work out.

It's sad how scared NHL GM's are in taking chances on some new, young coach that might actually bring something new to the league.

New Coaches starting next year
Patrick Roy
Dallas Eakins

New Coaches with little to some NHL experience
Ron Rolston
Jon Cooper
Mike Yeo
Kevin Dineen
Kirk Muller
Adam Oates

I'm not really trying too hard to prove a point, and I know you said new young coaches, but there's been a decent influx of new coaches into the NHL system. Most of them are ex-NHLers but new blood none the less.

The prospect of Roy doing more damage to that franchise is quite interesting, yes?
It will also be interesting to see what Eakins does with that Oilers team.


Saint Patrick will not let the Avs down, neither will Joe Sakic. Sacco shuffled lines to much, brought in weak D (with Sherman), and had practices that were so easy most high school kids have probably had harder... I mean when the players themselves are upset about easy practice and lack of focus, there's a big problem. I'm also thrilled that the Avs brought in a full-time goalie coach instead of the part-timer that was getting Varlamov to insanely inconsistent starts (sometimes he's Roy, sometimes he's awful). It's gonna get better, if only because it can't get much worse.
 
2013-06-21 07:14:10 PM

TheJoe03: Agent Nick Fury: It's sad how scared NHL GM's are in taking chances on some new, young coach that might actually bring something new to the league.

Yeah, having a new, young coach did wonders for Dallas.


This. Although, it's not like he had a whole lot of help. They were in bankruptcy for most of his tenure.
 
2013-06-21 07:23:19 PM
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Suck it, Buffalo!
 
KoC
2013-06-21 08:07:03 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  That guy is snakebit.

Abandons all hope of ever seeing Lord Stanleys Mug in Big D again.

smh


Any issues the Stars have with their game...don't expect them to be improved under Ruff.
 
2013-06-21 08:44:41 PM

SithLord: [img.fark.net image 225x300]

Suck it, Buffalo!


Wasn't it at Dime's place where the Cup got a huge dent in it?
 
2013-06-21 09:21:54 PM
firefly212:

Saint Patrick will not let the Avs down, neither will Joe Sakic. Sacco shuffled lines to much, brought in weak D (with Sherman), and had practices that were so easy most high school kids have probably had harder... I mean when the players themselves are upset about easy practice and lack of focus, there's a big problem. I'm also thrilled that the Avs brought in a full-time goalie coach instead of the part-timer that was getting Varlamov to insanely inconsistent starts (sometimes he's Roy, sometimes he's awful). It's gonna get better, if only because it can't get much worse.

Believe me, it can.  The Avs getting better depends on one thing, Roy keeping his ego in check.  If he can do that then the team should improve. If not....well you don;t have to keep paying him if he gets fired.
 
2013-06-21 09:58:44 PM
"Thursday, team president Jim Lites said Ruff is in line to fill the vacant position, according to a report from the Dallas Star-Telegram, barring unforeseen circumstances."

Dallas Star-Telegram?

I prefer to read the Ft. Worth Morning Times Herald myself.
 
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