meat0918: Ow! That was my feelings!: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Everything about that story sounds like complete bullshiat. The entire design of the park is insane, the lack of training for the personnel, the business plan of the restaurant, and the mysterious "powers that be" telling them they have to ban certain dogs. Really? Why are you allowing your insurance company to dictate your business decisions? I think companies like to make "insurance" be the fall guy for any unpopular decision they make for their business....and no water. You set up a dog park and there is not water. Brilliant!Wait until the parvo outbreak.
fozzie in the city: strathmeyer: fozzie in the city: I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.Wow I hope you've left a note so your loved ones know what's happened when you're found stabbed to death. You're going to find people are as protective of their pets as you are of your son.That's what my Glock 30 is for silly. Some asswipe can't control their shiaty dog and it bites my kid, it dies in the spot. Humans>animals
Canned Tamales: BarkingUnicorn: Canned Tamales: I've wanted to see something like this for years, it could be a really fun place, but they seem to be having problems with planning.I wonder how much space they set aside...you'd need a bit of room to do it right. And the breed problem can be solved the way it is at actual dog parks....you have a big dog side and a small dog side. If your small dog is a little too rowdy for the tiny chihuahua's and old lady dogs, you put it on the big dog side. I have a 15 lb mini-pin/chihuahua mix who is very active and loves to play with other dogs, I always let him run with the big dogs, and there's never been a problem. Also, the big dogs especially, have to be well-trained enough to obey their owners instead of fighting and attacking.Really, instead of a bar with a small dog run, it needs to be a regular sized dog park with an attached beer garden, maybe some park benches so you can enjoy a beer or cold cocktail while you run your dog.Google the Mutts Cantina Web site to see how many keystrokes you wasted.Fair enough...so then it's just the 1 entrance issue and stupid rules? Sounded like more of an issue.
jaytkay: JesseL: jaytkay: Yes. Gathering data is how people learn things.Assuming it's actually data they're gathering, I agree.In the case of the CDC dog bite stats though, they gathered a pile of anecdotes and confirmation bias.And by "anecdotes and confirmation bias" you mean "results I do not like".
ronaprhys: the definition of dog starts with something that's at least 55lbs, things below that only count as fancy rats.
JesseL: jaytkay: Yes. Gathering data is how people learn things.Assuming it's actually data they're gathering, I agree.In the case of the CDC dog bite stats though, they gathered a pile of anecdotes and confirmation bias.
ronaprhys: daisygrrl: Why do pit bull owners always act so surprised when their dogs are banned? Ffs, they're banned in all kinds of places and anyone with liability insurance is not going to allow random pit bulls. If I had one and I wanted to take it somewhere like this, I'd call ahead and make sure it's cool.That being said, the bar owners don't appear to have thought things through on the dog side. No water? One entrance? One attendant who may not know how to break up a fight? And seriously, one attendant won't be breaking up a fight between several dogs. Also, dog people are insane. You'll never please all of them and you'll go crazy trying.Finally, I don't take my dog to dog parks but if I did, I'd leave at the first sight of a pit bull. Too much risk for a dog that's known to be bred for dog aggression.Labs bite more people than pit bulls.
yet_another_wumpus: I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that those who insist that "every dog has a right to be served" are the least likely to actually correctly train their dogs. Dogs specifically bred to be aggressive and attack other dogs are obviously more entitled to be leash-free. Maybe they can re-decorate and have a board listing the odds on various dogs and have a fancy pit in the middle.
ronaprhys: Ow! That was my feelings!: And Labs and Lab mixes are by far the most popular breed in the US and have been for many years. Meaning the fact they bite more people by raw numbers a duh moment. For an accurate picture of which breeds bite more, you would have to take the number of bites per population divided by the number of dogs, not the total number of bites.That's because labs and lab mixes are, by far, superior dogs. Secondly, since the definition of dog starts with something that's at least 55lbs, things below that only count as fancy rats.
Chaghatai: Makes sense, some breeds are genetically more aggressive and all other things equal can be more problematic. The chows for example are very territorial. It's true that pit-bulls are naturally people-friendly and have to be abused or deliberately conditioned to become dangerous, but they are naturally very dog-aggressive and could cause problems with the dogs that are otherwise allowed there.
JesseL: "After Ybarra posted a photo of the policy on her Facebook page, Mutts' page was deluged with complaints from irate pet owners. Mutts' Weeners was that the rules were prescribed by their insurance company.But by Thursday afternoon, Mutts co-owner Kyle Noonan said they had relaxed the policy and that only pit bulls would be banned. "We've been working with our insurance company today, and we have gotten them to lighten the restrictions," Noonan said. "The only restricted breed in the dog park will be pit bulls." "Do insurance companies really do the actuarial analysis to back up restrictions like this, or are they just winging it sometimes?
BarkingUnicorn: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Satan's Bunny Slippers: OK, so I'm stupid. WTF is a "DB Bar"?Judging from the fact that the place appears to be trying to appeal to a combination of foodies, beer snobs, and those who act like their pets are people, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess "douchebag bar".Foodies? It's a sports bar menu: burritos, burgers, hot dogs, and fries.http://muttscantina.com/mutt_menu.html
Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Everything about that story sounds like complete bullshiat. The entire design of the park is insane, the lack of training for the personnel, the business plan of the restaurant, and the mysterious "powers that be" telling them they have to ban certain dogs. Really? Why are you allowing your insurance company to dictate your business decisions? I think companies like to make "insurance" be the fall guy for any unpopular decision they make for their business.
Satan's Bunny Slippers: OK, so I'm stupid. WTF is a "DB Bar"?
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