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2013-06-21 04:06:52 PM

Begoggle: WTF is a DB bar
Your headline sucks.


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2013-06-21 04:09:40 PM

Canned Tamales: I've wanted to see something like this for years, it could be a really fun place, but they seem to be having problems with planning.

I wonder how much space they set aside...you'd need a bit of room to do it right.  And the breed problem can be solved the way it is at actual dog parks....you have a big dog side and a small dog side.  If your small dog is a little too rowdy for the tiny chihuahua's and old lady dogs, you put it on the big dog side.  I have a 15 lb mini-pin/chihuahua mix who is very active and loves to play with other dogs, I always let him run with the big dogs, and there's never been a problem.  Also, the big dogs especially, have to be well-trained enough to obey their owners instead of fighting and attacking.

Really, instead of a bar with a small dog run, it needs to be a regular sized dog park with an attached beer garden, maybe some park benches so you can enjoy a beer or cold cocktail while you run your dog.


Google the Mutts Cantina Web site to see how many keystrokes you wasted.
 
2013-06-21 04:10:02 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: jaytkay: Yes. Gathering data is how people learn things.

Assuming it's actually data they're gathering, I agree.

In the case of the CDC dog bite stats though, they gathered a pile of anecdotes and confirmation bias.

And by "anecdotes and confirmation bias" you mean "results I do not like".


Do you have to wear a helmet at all times?

I mean they built their tables out of garbage.

Agree or disagree with the results, the methods were beyond broken. If you can't see that, you're the one who's being blinded by bias.

Show me some numbers that aren't made of bullshiat and I'll be happy to see where they lead.
 
2013-06-21 04:10:40 PM

Diogenes: There are database bars now?  How lame.


no.. imagine how cool it would be to order a drink this way...

select BEER from table DRINKS where ALCOHOL_CONTENT > 5% AND COLOR=LIGHT;

*shoots self*
 
2013-06-21 04:11:22 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: jaytkay: Yes. Gathering data is how people learn things.

Assuming it's actually data they're gathering, I agree.

In the case of the CDC dog bite stats though, they gathered a pile of anecdotes and confirmation bias.

And by "anecdotes and confirmation bias" you mean "results I do not like".


The very nature of what they are trying to measure and how they are measuring it leads to these accusations of errors.

Why use media reports, when we know the media is unreliable when it comes to sensational news?

Remember that poor kid freaking out that people thought he was the Boston Bomber?

Or any of the other daily occurrences where the media has to post a retraction or correction?
 
2013-06-21 04:12:45 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Satan's Bunny Slippers: OK, so I'm stupid.  WTF is a "DB Bar"?

I live in the Dallas area and I have no farking idea.


It's really funny how many people don't think of "Douche Bag."  Perhaps it's because it's usually spelled as one word.  In your case, it's probably because you were looking for a second word that goes with "Dallas."
 
2013-06-21 04:13:21 PM
JesseL:
Can you really look at their methods and take them seriously?

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf
Procedure
We collected data from The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)and media accounts related to dog bite attacks and fatalities, using methods from previous studies. The HSUS maintains a registry of human DBRF, including date of death, age and sex of decedent,city and state of attack, number and breeds of dogs involved, and circumstances relating to the attack. To supplement HSUS reports, as in the past, a database was searched for accounts of human DBRF that occurred in1997 and 1998. Our search strategy involved scanning the text of newspapers and periodicals for certain words and word combinations likely to represent human DBRF followed by a review of articles containing those terms.Data obtained from HSUS and news accounts were merged to maximize detection of human DBRF and avoid duplicate reports. One new human DBRF from1996 was identified in the 1997 and 1998 reports and was added to the existing data for 1996.


Might I ask what methodology you would consider sufficient? Bonus points if it's even remotely practical.

Likewise, might I ask what group you consider to be a more-reliable authority on analyzing causes of death than the CDC?
 
2013-06-21 04:16:28 PM

JesseL: Show me some numbers that aren't made of bullshiat and I'll be happy to see where they lead.


Well, you know the results are wrong, so apparently you have the correct information. Please share.
 
2013-06-21 04:20:23 PM

Gabrielmot: Diogenes: There are database bars now?  How lame.

no.. imagine how cool it would be to order a drink this way...

select BEER from table DRINKS where ALCOHOL_CONTENT > 5% AND COLOR=LIGHT;

*shoots self*


It would cut down on the slobbering drunk problem.  I mean, if you're so drunk you can't get your SQL straight, you probably need to be cut off away.
 
2013-06-21 04:21:15 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: Show me some numbers that aren't made of bullshiat and I'll be happy to see where they lead.

Well, you know the results are wrong, so apparently you have the correct information. Please share.


Well, start with pit bull type, as well as hound type and lab type, encompass several different breeds, yet other breeds get a single entry.

If I was to go with what is at a shelter, I'd say pit bull types are among the most populous (not popular, populous) breeds out there.
 
2013-06-21 04:23:08 PM

jedikinkoid: Might I ask what methodology you would consider sufficient? Bonus points if it's even remotely practical.


I'm honestly not sure. As I mentioned further up the thread, even defining and objectively identifying "breed" is problematic. It's not a scientific term and is essentially left to the whims of breeders and kennel clubs.

Assuming the problem of breed identification could be overcome; I'd say they'd be best off with getting doctors, hospitals, and coroners to collect accurate breed info when treating dog bites or investigating deaths resulting from dog bites.

jedikinkoid: Likewise, might I ask what group you consider to be a more-reliable authority on analyzing causes of death than the CDC?


The CDC is generally fine at what they do, when someone's not asking them to take on a problem with such poorly defined parameters and limited data.
 
2013-06-21 04:23:34 PM

jedikinkoid: JesseL:
Can you really look at their methods and take them seriously?

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf
Procedure
We collected data from The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)and media accounts related to dog bite attacks and fatalities, using methods from previous studies. The HSUS maintains a registry of human DBRF, including date of death, age and sex of decedent,city and state of attack, number and breeds of dogs involved, and circumstances relating to the attack. To supplement HSUS reports, as in the past, a database was searched for accounts of human DBRF that occurred in1997 and 1998. Our search strategy involved scanning the text of newspapers and periodicals for certain words and word combinations likely to represent human DBRF followed by a review of articles containing those terms.Data obtained from HSUS and news accounts were merged to maximize detection of human DBRF and avoid duplicate reports. One new human DBRF from1996 was identified in the 1997 and 1998 reports and was added to the existing data for 1996.

Might I ask what methodology you would consider sufficient? Bonus points if it's even remotely practical.

Likewise, might I ask what group you consider to be a more-reliable authority on analyzing causes of death than the CDC?


Don't bother. "When faced with the choice of changing their minds or proving that it is unnecessary to do so, most people immediately get busy on the proof."  John K. Galbraith
 
2013-06-21 04:25:42 PM
I walked past the place today on my way to Village Burger.   There wasn't a single dog in site and it looked like only a single customer.   There was an attendent standing by the entrence to the dog area who looked miserable in the noon heat.   Also the place is apperently still undergoing construction.

Anyway I can't understand why anyone would want to take their dogs to this place when they could take them to the free dog park at Klyde Warren park and eat at the food trucks.
 
2013-06-21 04:29:38 PM

BarkingUnicorn: It's really funny how many people don't think of "Douche Bag."


It's actually an interesting phenomena... I work with a guy that is a complete douchebag (nice enough guy though)... drives a Navigator, shaved head, jewelry, tight v-neck shirts, Ed Hardy jeans (even though we do construction supervision)... and he uses DB all the time. Some foreman didn't call him back, "That douchebag". Some guy built the wall on the wrong side of the line, "What a douchebag". Inspector fails something, "Farking douchebag".

Douchebags don't know they're douchebags...
 
2013-06-21 04:29:54 PM

Jeremysbrain: I walked past the place today on my way to Village Burger.   There wasn't a single dog in site and it looked like only a single customer.   There was an attendent standing by the entrence to the dog area who looked miserable in the noon heat.   Also the place is apperently still undergoing construction.

Anyway I can't understand why anyone would want to take their dogs to this place when they could take them to the free dog park at Klyde Warren park and eat at the food trucks.


Thanks for some first-hand, useful input.

What time did you walk by?
 
2013-06-21 04:29:57 PM

ronaprhys: the definition of dog starts with something that's at least 55lbs, things below that only count as fancy rats.


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You MUST be high. Herding dogs are quite often in the 35-65 lb. range. And those are "REAL" dogs. Hell, those are WORKING dogs.
 
2013-06-21 04:34:18 PM

BarkingUnicorn: jedikinkoid: JesseL:
Can you really look at their methods and take them seriously?

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf
Procedure
We collected data from The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)and media accounts related to dog bite attacks and fatalities, using methods from previous studies. The HSUS maintains a registry of human DBRF, including date of death, age and sex of decedent,city and state of attack, number and breeds of dogs involved, and circumstances relating to the attack. To supplement HSUS reports, as in the past, a database was searched for accounts of human DBRF that occurred in1997 and 1998. Our search strategy involved scanning the text of newspapers and periodicals for certain words and word combinations likely to represent human DBRF followed by a review of articles containing those terms.Data obtained from HSUS and news accounts were merged to maximize detection of human DBRF and avoid duplicate reports. One new human DBRF from1996 was identified in the 1997 and 1998 reports and was added to the existing data for 1996.

Might I ask what methodology you would consider sufficient? Bonus points if it's even remotely practical.

Likewise, might I ask what group you consider to be a more-reliable authority on analyzing causes of death than the CDC?

Don't bother. "When faced with the choice of changing their minds or proving that it is unnecessary to do so, most people immediately get busy on the proof."  John K. Galbraith


I own a Staffordshire bull terrier mix, but I don't trust other pit bulls, or labs, or chihuahuas, at least until I get to know them.  He's never shown any aggression to other dogs, but if he does, I'm the one that is responsible for his behavior and what happens next.  It means I farking failed at raising and training a dog.

And given what I experienced with my aforementioned bro-in-law, I think not trusting someone else's dog until you are reasonably sure about them is a good idea.  A person that seems like the perfect dog owner in public can actually be a tormenting douche to his animals when they think no one is looking.
 
2013-06-21 04:44:03 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: Show me some numbers that aren't made of bullshiat and I'll be happy to see where they lead.

Well, you know the results are wrong, so apparently you have the correct information. Please share.


Hmm. My last reply was deleted.

I don't know the results are wrong. I just know they're based on bullshiat so their results are suspect.

If you can find some statistically rigorous info, I'll be inclined to take it at face value.
 
2013-06-21 04:48:31 PM

JesseL: Hmm. My last reply was deleted.


What's up with that? I saw it, now it's gone.
 
2013-06-21 04:53:27 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: Hmm. My last reply was deleted.

What's up with that? I saw it, now it's gone.


I guess the tard helmet comment was over the line :/

My apologies to you and the admin.
 
2013-06-21 05:07:09 PM

JesseL: jaytkay: JesseL: Hmm. My last reply was deleted.

What's up with that? I saw it, now it's gone.

I guess the tard helmet comment was over the line :/

My apologies to you and the admin.


Ah, I forgot that part, I ignored it, no offense taken.
 
2013-06-21 05:31:40 PM
The owners of this place obviously don't frequent dog parks. No water? In Dallas heat? Huge oversight. No separate dog entrance to the dog park? Thats just inviting disaster.As for fights, just blast one of those high pitched noise things or hose down the dogs every time they fight. They will stop pretty quickly after that.
 
2013-06-21 05:36:46 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Jeremysbrain: I walked past the place today on my way to Village Burger.   There wasn't a single dog in site and it looked like only a single customer.   There was an attendent standing by the entrence to the dog area who looked miserable in the noon heat.   Also the place is apperently still undergoing construction.

Anyway I can't understand why anyone would want to take their dogs to this place when they could take them to the free dog park at Klyde Warren park and eat at the food trucks.

Thanks for some first-hand, useful input.

What time did you walk by?


A little after 1pm.
 
2013-06-21 05:41:54 PM
Not every pit bull becomes a problem, but without exception the owners are scum bags.

"Those huge muscles bulging under my dogs super thick and loose skin? Don't worry if my dog snaps or becomes aggressive, nobody will be able to stop it. Be cool, you just don't understand my cuddly little angel"

No but I understand how fukin stupid you are.

I've seen three Pits snap, it's a very, very dangerous situation.
 
2013-06-21 05:52:46 PM

Bonzo_1116: A friend of mine has three huskies that went thunderdome one one of her cats.


That is disgusting!  I grew up with a husky/lab mix who used to kill stray kittens and lay them out in a row on our deck--that traumatized me enough at age 7. The neighborhood was terrified of him since he was not socialized or trained properly by my parents. On the other hand, I had 2 friends with huskies, and those were the sweetest, most docile dogs I ever met. It really depends on how crappy the owner is.
 
2013-06-21 06:06:34 PM
If your dog's breed is banned, then don't go there.

Problem solved!
 
2013-06-21 06:29:51 PM

Chimpasaurus: Bonzo_1116: A friend of mine has three huskies that went thunderdome one one of her cats.

That is disgusting!  I grew up with a husky/lab mix who used to kill stray kittens and lay them out in a row on our deck--that traumatized me enough at age 7. The neighborhood was terrified of him since he was not socialized or trained properly by my parents. On the other hand, I had 2 friends with huskies, and those were the sweetest, most docile dogs I ever met. It really depends on how crappy the owner is.


Huskies have a really really strong hunting/prey drive.  More than most other dogs, as they were left to fend for themselves over the summer time as a breed back in the day.  People would lure them back into camp in the winter to pull their sleds, but they needed to hunt for themselves during the summer.  Dogs that were human-aggressive were immediately culled (and probably eaten by the chukchi).  My friend's kids pulled my dogs ear and generally abused her, but she licked their noses like a good beta-dog, because those were humans.  I trusted my husky with the cat that was already an adult when we got the dog. but a baby kitten would be too much of a temptation.,
 
2013-06-21 06:54:12 PM
Douchebag bar? It's Dallas... they'll have lots of clientele.
 
2013-06-21 07:23:50 PM
Who gets the final say about what breed your dog is? So many dogs can be confused with pits! I got bit this past Wednesday by what looked like a Presa but was listed as an American bulldog. Btw, anything with a mouth CAN bite, it's the amount of damage that can be a concern. Having said that, I'm way more reluctant to hold a Chihuahua than a pit, Chihuahuas are nasty little ankle-biters!
 
2013-06-21 07:29:51 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: ronaprhys: the definition of dog starts with something that's at least 55lbs, things below that only count as fancy rats.

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You MUST be high. Herding dogs are quite often in the 35-65 lb. range. And those are "REAL" dogs. Hell, those are WORKING dogs.


When they're above 55lbs, they're real dogs.  Below that, they're fancy rats.  Hell, because I'm generous, I'll give you that they could be fancy working rats.

Get a real dog, son.
 
2013-06-21 07:33:01 PM

Smeggy Smurf: jaytkay: Dog Banning bar?
Dumb Blond bar?
Deaf Belgian bar?
Deal Breaker bar?

Dipshiat Buggerers
Dingleberry Burritos
Dangling Ballsacks
Deranged Buttrapers


"What are four possible names for my Butthole Surfers cover band?"
 
2013-06-21 08:32:09 PM
I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.
 
2013-06-21 08:36:39 PM

Karl LaFong: "The dog park does not allow the following breeds to enter: Chow, Presa Canario, Doberman, Malamute, husky, German shepherd, Rottweiler, pit bull or Shar Pei."

And no Irish, either...

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/born troublemakers


Best lol for me today, thanks.  I needed it.


/part Irish.......you wanna fight about it?
 
2013-06-21 08:49:28 PM

jaytkay: JesseL: jaytkay: Yes. Gathering data is how people learn things.

Assuming it's actually data they're gathering, I agree.

In the case of the CDC dog bite stats though, they gathered a pile of anecdotes and confirmation bias.

And by "anecdotes and confirmation bias" you mean "results I do not like".


No, he means that trolling newspapers for articles is not any kind of way(except a stupid, shiatty and very biased way) to collect meaningful data.  In fact, a moments thought would show that you are more likely to find very skewed info that way, since the media only publishes what gets sales, and the "vicious pit bull" narrative sells quite well.  All such a method will do is hide all of the other attacks by non-pit bull dogs.  That's not even counting the mis-identifications.

jaytkay.....troll, or stupid piece of dung?  You make the call!

/I vote both.
 
2013-06-21 08:53:01 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Canned Tamales: I've wanted to see something like this for years, it could be a really fun place, but they seem to be having problems with planning.

I wonder how much space they set aside...you'd need a bit of room to do it right.  And the breed problem can be solved the way it is at actual dog parks....you have a big dog side and a small dog side.  If your small dog is a little too rowdy for the tiny chihuahua's and old lady dogs, you put it on the big dog side.  I have a 15 lb mini-pin/chihuahua mix who is very active and loves to play with other dogs, I always let him run with the big dogs, and there's never been a problem.  Also, the big dogs especially, have to be well-trained enough to obey their owners instead of fighting and attacking.

Really, instead of a bar with a small dog run, it needs to be a regular sized dog park with an attached beer garden, maybe some park benches so you can enjoy a beer or cold cocktail while you run your dog.

Google the Mutts Cantina Web site to see how many keystrokes you wasted.


Fair enough...so then it's just the 1 entrance issue and stupid rules?  Sounded like more of an issue.
 
2013-06-21 08:57:08 PM

Canned Tamales: jaytkay.....troll, or stupid piece of dung?


Are you ten years old?
 
2013-06-21 10:53:23 PM
There are a couple of pit bulls in my neighborhood that drag their owners around for walkies. The biggest danger for a passerby is that the pittie may try to lick them to death.
 
2013-06-21 11:43:17 PM

ronaprhys: Sin_City_Superhero: ronaprhys: the definition of dog starts with something that's at least 55lbs, things below that only count as fancy rats.

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You MUST be high. Herding dogs are quite often in the 35-65 lb. range. And those are "REAL" dogs. Hell, those are WORKING dogs.

When they're above 55lbs, they're real dogs.  Below that, they're fancy rats.  Hell, because I'm generous, I'll give you that they could be fancy working rats.

Get a real dog, son.


Aww. A fat, likely divorced cowboys fanboi who wants to drive a dually. Get a real truck, son.
 
2013-06-22 12:02:58 AM

sigdiamond2000: I like to file these stories away for anytime someone comments on how silly/sad so-called "cat people" are.

Dogs: When they're not waking you up at 3 AM, sh*tting in your yard, slobbering all over your clean pants, or eating your kids' faces off, they're causing entire communities to turn against one another.


Don't get me wrong because I like cats and when I've had cats they were indoor cats.

Cats:  When they're not waking you at 3 AM fighting outside your bedroom window, shiatting in your yard (especially your veggie garden), leaving footprints and scratches all over your car, or eating the wildlife you enjoy watching in your yard, they're showing just how many irresponsible pet owners there are.
 
2013-06-22 02:35:44 AM

fozzie in the city: I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.


Wow I hope you've left a note so your loved ones know what's happened when you're found stabbed to death. You're going to find people are as protective of their pets as you are of your son.
 
2013-06-22 02:58:39 AM
I want to know why huskies and Malamutes were on that list. Was the insurance company afraid they were going to shed everywhere?
 
2013-06-22 03:03:57 AM
Also I got chased down the street by a lab mix yesterday that came out of nowhere. Retrievers and retriever mixes are the absolute worst--I've never had a pit even growl at me, but I've had retrievers growl, lunge, chase me out into traffic, and just about everything other than actually bite me. Horrible animals.
 
2013-06-22 03:27:07 AM
Sue!  Sue! Sue!

Every dog will have his day!
 
2013-06-22 05:41:35 AM

Canned Tamales: BarkingUnicorn: Canned Tamales: I've wanted to see something like this for years, it could be a really fun place, but they seem to be having problems with planning.

I wonder how much space they set aside...you'd need a bit of room to do it right.  And the breed problem can be solved the way it is at actual dog parks....you have a big dog side and a small dog side.  If your small dog is a little too rowdy for the tiny chihuahua's and old lady dogs, you put it on the big dog side.  I have a 15 lb mini-pin/chihuahua mix who is very active and loves to play with other dogs, I always let him run with the big dogs, and there's never been a problem.  Also, the big dogs especially, have to be well-trained enough to obey their owners instead of fighting and attacking.

Really, instead of a bar with a small dog run, it needs to be a regular sized dog park with an attached beer garden, maybe some park benches so you can enjoy a beer or cold cocktail while you run your dog.

Google the Mutts Cantina Web site to see how many keystrokes you wasted.

Fair enough...so then it's just the 1 entrance issue and stupid rules?  Sounded like more of an issue.


The biggest issue is that dogs are not under the control of their owners even to the limited degree that they are in a public off-leash dog park! From the bar's Web site:

"Full-time attendants are on duty to provide snacks and water and pick up after your pet while you grab a latté, beer or bite to eat at our open-air patio and beer garden. "

Owners and dogs are separated by a six-foot fence and IDK how much distance.  Owners are schmoozing with each other, Web surfing over the free WiFi, watching TV... everything except minding their goddam dogs!

If you're running a doggy daycare, you can take the time to put a dog through its paces to see if it's socialized and responsive to "masters" other than its owner. If not, you can refuse to enter into a long-term contract to provide care. The amount of revenue involved makes the due diligence affordable.

In Mutts Cantina's setting, you have random people plopping down five bucks for the day and saying, "Take care of my mutt while I go get drunk."  The attendants are supposed to handle all dogs without knowing whether they're Cuddles or Cujo.   Again, I wonder what kind of person would take such a job.

This place should not be permitted to operate this way.  I don't think it will last a year without being sued into the ground by a customer or employee.
 
2013-06-22 06:37:24 AM

BEER_ME_in_CT: How about y'all just leave your f^%$cking dogs at home like we used to do 25 years ago. Dont bring them to work, dont bring them to go shopping, dont let them sit on your lap in the car. In fact dont put em in the farking car at all unless they're going to the vet. Dont bring them on a god damn plane, dont bring them to a restaurant, dont bring them to a bar. Take them for a walk, thats &%^$ all! People and their dogs. Theyre %^$# dogs not kids.

/Flame away dog lovers. BTW, I've had dogs and will have another one soon. I just dont take it every god damn place. How farking annoying.


You rant a lot. But you are right.
 
2013-06-22 08:10:27 AM
seelorq:Aww. A fat, likely divorced cowboys fanboi who wants to drive a dually. Get a real truck, son.

Well, you almost got one right.  Almost.
 
2013-06-22 09:24:19 AM

strathmeyer: fozzie in the city: I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.

Wow I hope you've left a note so your loved ones know what's happened when you're found stabbed to death. You're going to find people are as protective of their pets as you are of your son.


That's what my Glock 30 is for silly. Some asswipe can't control their shiaty dog and it bites my kid, it dies in the spot. Humans>animals
 
2013-06-22 11:33:45 AM

fozzie in the city: strathmeyer: fozzie in the city: I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.

Wow I hope you've left a note so your loved ones know what's happened when you're found stabbed to death. You're going to find people are as protective of their pets as you are of your son.

That's what my Glock 30 is for silly. Some asswipe can't control their shiaty dog and it bites my kid, it dies in the spot. Humans>animals


Are you retired LE, or are you just carrying illegally in Chicago?
 
2013-06-22 12:44:56 PM

JesseL: fozzie in the city: strathmeyer: fozzie in the city: I'm an embalmer, I've seen four toddlers on my table ripped to shreds after a pit bull got their mouth on them. Truly horrific, horror movie stuff. All four of them were killed by by neighborhood dogs not their own family's. I live in a nice part of Chicago and the parks and sidewalks are full of these farking things. When walking my son in his stroller I don't let them get within five feet if I can help it. If they do I get between them with one hand on the knife in my pocket. Don't trust any of them, and I don't enter any home with pit bulls in it with my son.

Wow I hope you've left a note so your loved ones know what's happened when you're found stabbed to death. You're going to find people are as protective of their pets as you are of your son.

That's what my Glock 30 is for silly. Some asswipe can't control their shiaty dog and it bites my kid, it dies in the spot. Humans>animals

Are you retired LE, or are you just carrying illegally in Chicago?


Or maybe active ITG
 
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