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(HitFix)   'Independence Day 2: Electric Boogaloo' coming to theaters one day early   (hitfix.com) divider line 140
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2013-06-21 12:20:20 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm more looking forward to 3D Untitled Illumination Entertainment 2015 Project .
 
2013-06-21 01:07:34 AM
It's really just going to be the same basic thing as Untitled Illumination Entertainment 2010 Project, except with slightly better CGI and things popping out at you for no reason.
 
2013-06-21 01:45:49 AM

serial_crusher: It's really just going to be the same basic thing as Untitled Illumination Entertainment 2010 Project, except with slightly better CGI and things popping out at you for no reason.


Stop being such a cynic.  Thank God the internet wasn't around for Untitled Illumination Entertainment 1985 Project.
 
2013-06-21 01:50:32 AM
Welcome back to earf.
 
2013-06-21 02:04:53 AM
Independence Day was a fluke. Emmerich's work since then has proven that he's a total hack. The Day After Tomorrow? Pure crapola.
 
2013-06-21 04:56:10 AM

Two Dogs Farking: Independence Day was a fluke. Emmerich's work since then has proven that he's a total hack. The Day After Tomorrow? Pure crapola.


My sarcasm detector isn't working lately. Are you suggesting that Independence Day was a good movie?
 
2013-06-21 05:24:33 AM
It was at least mildly amusing, compared to the garbage he's produced since then (I'm looking at you, Godzilla). IIRC it was also his biggest box-office success.

I don't consider it a good movie, however.
 
2013-06-21 05:37:57 AM
I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.
 
2013-06-21 05:39:14 AM
Oh, and  The Day After Tomorrow was not only pure crapola, but it actually angered me at just how pure and refined he was able to make the crapola.
 
2013-06-21 06:52:19 AM
Independence Day 2 is just going to be 125 minutes of dogs jumping away from explosions at the last second in slow motion.
 
2013-06-21 06:58:42 AM

Mentat: Stop being such a cynic.  Thank God the internet wasn't around for Untitled Illumination Entertainment 1985 Project.


img.fark.net
"I wonder what it was like..."

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"Denim...denim everywhere."

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 06:59:32 AM

log_jammin: I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.


Too bad whenever I would find the movie on cable, it's well past that part.
 
2013-06-21 07:03:23 AM
I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.
 
2013-06-21 07:03:46 AM
Replace Independence Day or Pearl Harbor, Roland Emmerich or Michael Bay, Will Smith for Ben Affleck and Adam Baldwin for Cuba Gooding and there you have it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM8PrqY5Rg
 
2013-06-21 07:04:31 AM
Is the plot of ID2, how people burn down the NSA, destroy PRISM, arrest and prosecute bankers, congressmen and senators for their crimes against the nation, and dismantled the TSA and Patriot Act? Because that would be popular I think.
 
2013-06-21 07:05:16 AM

log_jammin: I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.


I agree with this statement and will admit to watching that scene if I am flipping through the channels.

/No Randy Quaid not a good movie.
 
2013-06-21 07:06:38 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.


Sounds like they're skipping forward a few decades, so we'll get an Earth who had some time to rebuild, and reverse engineer alien tech, before the alien reinforcements show up.  I'm a bit sceptical about how well this'll be done.
 
2013-06-21 07:11:21 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.


You want to watch Robotech?
 
2013-06-21 07:17:10 AM

Mentat: I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm more looking forward to 3D Untitled Illumination Entertainment 2015 Project .


Dude, I've already put it on my calendar as a "must see"
 
2013-06-21 07:23:06 AM

moothemagiccow: rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.

You want to watch Robotech?


Speaking of Pacific Rim...
 
2013-06-21 07:29:09 AM

JerseyTim: Independence Day 2 is just going to be 125 minutes of dogs jumping away from explosions at the last second in slow motion.


Sounds good.

They could go interesting. Go plus 30 years and humanity has reverse engineered the tech and launched a few ships and we go after them. Or it turns out that the lizard overlords really cracked down on the population and they need to overthrow the alien overlords. I mean, at the end of the movie they barely had a means of taking out the invasion ships, loads of aliens would have survived. Heck, did they kill ALL the ships?
 
2013-06-21 07:35:58 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 07:37:25 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.


I've always wanted to see an "aftermath" movie for a serial killer/monster/etc.. movie.

"I'm Officer Johnson and...what? a human body can't fit in a hole that small! what do you mean it had a mouth on the end of a tentacle??? have you been using drugs ma'am? wait...so where are your friends again? ma'am I think you need to come to the station with us..."
 
2013-06-21 07:38:32 AM

wildcardjack: JerseyTim: Independence Day 2 is just going to be 125 minutes of dogs jumping away from explosions at the last second in slow motion.

Sounds good.

They could go interesting. Go plus 30 years and humanity has reverse engineered the tech and launched a few ships and we go after them. Or it turns out that the lizard overlords really cracked down on the population and they need to overthrow the alien overlords. I mean, at the end of the movie they barely had a means of taking out the invasion ships, loads of aliens would have survived. Heck, did they kill ALL the ships?


An earlier article suggested that the invaders got off a distress signal, and their reinforcements left home as soon as they got it.. but due to time dialation in hyperspace, a few months travel for them was a few decades of time on Earth.
 
2013-06-21 07:41:34 AM
Considering the Brent Spiner cameo was the only 2 minutes of that movie that didn't lovingly lick the sweat off of swollen gorilla testicles, I think I'll pass.
 
2013-06-21 07:46:58 AM
moothemagiccow:
That's what I want to see.

You want to watch Robotech?


As long as we get to hear MInmei sing, yes.
 
2013-06-21 07:47:15 AM
I hope Jeff Goldblum reprises his role as Jeff Goldblum.
 
2013-06-21 07:49:32 AM
Highly anticipated?

Really?
 
2013-06-21 07:50:51 AM

log_jammin: I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.


It's not that bad.

I'm not saying it's a cinematic tour-de-force, but for what it is (a big budget popcorn flick), it's actually not that bad.  It's a nice twist on the "virus kills the aliens" from War Of The Worlds, and yes, if you can figure out how they actually represent numbers (which Goldblum figures out fairly early), and you have an operable example of their computers (in the form of the alien craft at Area 51), you can do black box testing to figure out what individual instructions do.  A simple "Jump X spaces and copy yourself" type of virus would be easy enough to implement against an opponent that doesn't have any internal software protections.

Because the aliens have a hive-sort of mindset, it might never occur to them that they need the equivalent of McAfee software on their computers, because none of them would be writing malicious code.  Their security has a hard, crunchy exterior but a soft, chewy center.
 
2013-06-21 07:56:28 AM
Please don't let Will Smith drag his non-acting kids into it!
 
2013-06-21 07:58:03 AM

dittybopper: log_jammin: I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.

It's not that bad.

I'm not saying it's a cinematic tour-de-force, but for what it is (a big budget popcorn flick), it's actually not that bad.  It's a nice twist on the "virus kills the aliens" from War Of The Worlds, and yes, if you can figure out how they actually represent numbers (which Goldblum figures out fairly early), and you have an operable example of their computers (in the form of the alien craft at Area 51), you can do black box testing to figure out what individual instructions do.  A simple "Jump X spaces and copy yourself" type of virus would be easy enough to implement against an opponent that doesn't have any internal software protections.

Because the aliens have a hive-sort of mindset, it might never occur to them that they need the equivalent of McAfee software on their computers, because none of them would be writing malicious code.  Their security has a hard, crunchy exterior but a soft, chewy center.


This. Plus, even if they did have an anti-virus, it doesn't mean it would catch the one Goldblum's character wrote. It actually isn't that implausible.

There are other science-related gaffes (i.e. the size of the mothership would fark up quite a few things if it was 1/4 the mass of the moon), but that was not one of them
 
2013-06-21 08:00:29 AM

Alphax: wildcardjack: JerseyTim: Independence Day 2 is just going to be 125 minutes of dogs jumping away from explosions at the last second in slow motion.

Sounds good.

They could go interesting. Go plus 30 years and humanity has reverse engineered the tech and launched a few ships and we go after them. Or it turns out that the lizard overlords really cracked down on the population and they need to overthrow the alien overlords. I mean, at the end of the movie they barely had a means of taking out the invasion ships, loads of aliens would have survived. Heck, did they kill ALL the ships?

An earlier article suggested that the invaders got off a distress signal, and their reinforcements left home as soon as they got it.. but due to time dialation in hyperspace, a few months travel for them was a few decades of time on Earth.


They don't even have actually explicitly send a distress signal.

If you are in reasonably close contact with the home world or main fleet or whatever, and all of a sudden you stop sending progress updates, the other alienses are going to know something really bad happened, and they'll probably want to investigate.
 
2013-06-21 08:01:19 AM

c-ment: Please don't let Will Smith drag his non-acting kids into it!


I pimp my kids like a whore
I pimp my kids like a whore
I pimp my kids like a whore
I pimp my kids like a whore.
 
2013-06-21 08:01:20 AM

Bslim: Highly anticipated?

Really?


I guess the producers are.
 
2013-06-21 08:02:14 AM

dittybopper: Alphax: wildcardjack: JerseyTim: Independence Day 2 is just going to be 125 minutes of dogs jumping away from explosions at the last second in slow motion.

Sounds good.

They could go interesting. Go plus 30 years and humanity has reverse engineered the tech and launched a few ships and we go after them. Or it turns out that the lizard overlords really cracked down on the population and they need to overthrow the alien overlords. I mean, at the end of the movie they barely had a means of taking out the invasion ships, loads of aliens would have survived. Heck, did they kill ALL the ships?

An earlier article suggested that the invaders got off a distress signal, and their reinforcements left home as soon as they got it.. but due to time dialation in hyperspace, a few months travel for them was a few decades of time on Earth.

They don't even have actually explicitly send a distress signal.

If you are in reasonably close contact with the home world or main fleet or whatever, and all of a sudden you stop sending progress updates, the other alienses are going to know something really bad happened, and they'll probably want to investigate.


That's one thing that bothered me about District 9. Why no rescue?
 
2013-06-21 08:06:56 AM
I wave my hair back and forth
 
2013-06-21 08:07:47 AM

machoprogrammer: There are other science-related gaffes (i.e. the size of the mothership would fark up quite a few things if it was 1/4 the mass of the moon)


As I recall, it was 1/4 the *SIZE* of the moon, not 1/4 the mass.  Remember, it was largely hollow.

But that does bring up another point:  Unless it causes a runaway reaction in whatever power source the aliens are using, there is no way a nuclear bomb that is at most a couple megatons (and more likely a few hundred kilotons) is going to completely destroy something that big.  I suppose, if they were using matter/anti-matter reaction, and the bomb shut off the containment, it could happen, but you couldn't *PLAN* for that.
 
2013-06-21 08:14:27 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.


I'd like to think that 'District 9' is the sequel. Those enormous ships crashed,but that doesn't necessarily mean they all died.
We wouldn't be genocidal the way there were (I think), so...welcome to your shantytown, Prawn!
 
2013-06-21 08:14:35 AM
One of the best motivational speeches ever.

No mr Pullman, I won't go quietly into the night
 
2013-06-21 08:27:02 AM

rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.


Too bad we're not getting that. Enjoy your two hours of humanity tracking the aliens home and committing genocide against them.
 
2013-06-21 08:33:38 AM

log_jammin: I think it's a horrible movie

but....I do...kinda...sorta...enjoy the first alien fighters vs jet fighters battle. I don't know why, but I really like that part. Then the moment Will Smith ejects and his plane explodes, I hate the movie again.


This
 
2013-06-21 08:34:29 AM
The surviving aliens become citizens and take over the Republican Party. Same value system after all.
 
2013-06-21 08:40:37 AM
"...is yet on board for the  long awaited sequel..."

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2013-06-21 08:40:41 AM
Of.course Jayden Smith will have to have a major part in it I bet.
 
2013-06-21 08:49:49 AM

mat catastrophe: rewind2846: I think there should be an "aftermath" story exploring what happens on earf after the aliens get blowed up good. All the technology left in those giant ships, hundreds or thousands of years ahead of our own.  Do the countries the ships crashed in use that tech to create a new age for humankind, with fusion power, advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?), energy weapons, anti-gravity, and starships that can cross light years of space in days instead of decades, or do the countries that have this tech fight the other countries for theirs and take over the nations the ships didn't crash in?

How do we rebuild after something like this? And what happens to our science, our governments, our civilizations and our religions when humankind can take a breath and go "HOLY SH*T! There's aliens out there!"?

That's what I want to see.

Too bad we're not getting that. Enjoy your two hours of humanity tracking the aliens home and committing genocide against them.


So a metaphor for Native Americans, wonderful
 
2013-06-21 08:52:04 AM

mat catastrophe: Too bad we're not getting that. Enjoy your two hours of humanity tracking the aliens home and committing genocide against them.


You know, I wouldn't have any sympathy for them.  Classic self-defense, writ large.  They came here first with the intent to wipe us out.
 
2013-06-21 08:52:53 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I hope Jeff Goldblum reprises his role as Jeff Goldblum.


If there is one thing the history of movies has taught us it's that Jeff Goldblum will not be contained. Jeff Goldblum breaks free, he expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously, but, uh... well, there it is. I'm, I'm simply saying that Jeff Goldblum, uh... finds a way.
 
2013-06-21 08:53:22 AM

rewind2846:  advanced computers (with no anti-virus running - WTF?),


What part of "telepathic species" didn't people get? Information security would be an alien concept to them. It's one of the stupidest knocks on ID4. Goldblum didn't have to learn to "program in an alien language" the aliens bridged the communications to take our satellites over and since they were telepathic they had no informational security, thus the simplest replicating virus ever made would be devastating (kinda like the Martians being destroyed by simple earth virus that humans are immune to) to them.

 mat catastrophe: Too bad we're not getting that. Enjoy your two hours of humanity tracking the aliens home and committing genocide against them.


They were home, they destroyed their world and moved on with their whole society in that mother ship.

considering that the earths ecosystem was once radically altered by one big asteroid hitting Earth, I'd say 15 "Asteroids" filled with unknown energy sources crashing on it would've rendered Earth uninhabitable within days of the end of ID4 so any sequel is rendered stupid and implausible from the very start.

I am one of the few who will admit that ID4 was a pretty good cheesy popcorn action flick that holds together pretty well (as I say if you ignore the fact that the "saviors" really just ensured we die free, not really saved the Earth) but I will be saying no to any sequel.
 
2013-06-21 08:53:25 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Too bad we're not getting that. Enjoy your two hours of humanity tracking the aliens home and committing genocide against them.

So a metaphor for Native Americans, wonderful


The Native Americans invaded Europe first?

You must be confusing this sequel with the sequel to Avatard.
 
2013-06-21 08:54:15 AM

dittybopper: machoprogrammer: There are other science-related gaffes (i.e. the size of the mothership would fark up quite a few things if it was 1/4 the mass of the moon)

As I recall, it was 1/4 the *SIZE* of the moon, not 1/4 the mass.  Remember, it was largely hollow.

But that does bring up another point:  Unless it causes a runaway reaction in whatever power source the aliens are using, there is no way a nuclear bomb that is at most a couple megatons (and more likely a few hundred kilotons) is going to completely destroy something that big.  I suppose, if they were using matter/anti-matter reaction, and the bomb shut off the containment, it could happen, but you couldn't *PLAN* for that.


No, the line spoken specifically said Mass.
 
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