If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Uproxx)   HOO BOY, Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole "no big deal she's racist because she's old" defense   (uproxx.com) divider line 255
    More: Fail, Paula Deen, racists  
•       •       •

9375 clicks; posted to Main » on 20 Jun 2013 at 6:58 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



255 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-06-20 11:02:41 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: lohphat: Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"

You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.

I wasn't aware you had the power to tell me what should and should not offend me. Don't blame black people for the "double standard". Blame your grandfather and people like Paula for being bigots in the first place.


I'm not responsible for what offends you. You are.

My grandfather was Chinese and a victim of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

We got over it.
 
2013-06-20 11:07:43 PM

YouAreIncorrect: Who cares.  She's a farking cook on TV.  Maybe if she was an elected representative or someone who actually mattered it would be worth getting pissed off about.  Does the random douche down the street saying n*gger piss people off as well?  If so you need to calm the fark down.

Anyway, old people do get a bit of a pass.  My grandparents were racist, but they would use the word even in non-racist ways; it was just a word for them.  For example, the following:

[img.fark.net image 180x207]

...was referred to as a 'n*gger tit'.  If you use the n-word to describe a delicious chocolatey morsel, I would hardly consider that racist.  If anything that's pro black titties.


well there is nothing like sucking on some black titties
 
2013-06-20 11:10:26 PM
This was actually almost an intelligent thread for Fark. Except for nigs in a blanket guy. What a farktard.
 
2013-06-20 11:12:39 PM
smh
What a bunch of losers.
 
2013-06-20 11:12:44 PM

rewind2846: Bumblefark:
Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.

Why do people always forget that there is a third option besides being either an honest asshole or a closeted bigot?


Well...maybe because I was responding to a question about some hypothetical bigot, and whether being openly bigoted somehow makes them less of an asshole?

/But, if you really want to press the point, I'd be interested to know where you've found a human being entirely free of bigotry. The various academies of the human sciences would probably like to collect such a specimen.
 
2013-06-20 11:18:56 PM
the poor ol' grandma defense.

Our grandma would occasionally haul out a racial slur, all the more shocking because she was otherwise very prim and proper. It really affected our impressions of her.
 
2013-06-20 11:19:05 PM
Sooooooo her story is the bank robber forced her to say it by holding a gun to her head.  I'm just paraphrasing here but I can't get that image out of my head ...

Robber: "Say it, say it!"
Paula Deen: "No, it's too horrible and it will go on my permanent record that I am a racist."
 
2013-06-20 11:20:12 PM
Oh no, someone on the internet was offended by something someone said 30 years ago!  Is it time for speech control yet?
 
2013-06-20 11:23:39 PM

lohphat: DROxINxTHExWIND: lohphat: Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"

You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.

I wasn't aware you had the power to tell me what should and should not offend me. Don't blame black people for the "double standard". Blame your grandfather and people like Paula for being bigots in the first place.

I'm not responsible for what offends you. You are.

My grandfather was Chinese and a victim of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

We got over it.


Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.
 
2013-06-20 11:26:30 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Well, it's hard to refute that, because it seems most old white people ARE farking racist. In the U.S., anyway.

 One of the topics of the recent Bilderberg meetings was whether or not to allow racism to spread outside of white people in the US, but I believe it was decided against.
My theory is that they're planning to release it the next time there's a major world conflict.


UH-oh, better get the message out to the asians.

/just because us English speakers don't know what mi dang means...
 
2013-06-20 11:28:25 PM
No, sorry, Paula, that's not acceptable. My aged grandmother was born 97 years ago when the South was REALLY segregated, AND she was not only white but also wealthy and the daughter of the town's potentate; and while she still uses the condescending term "colored people" she has NEVER used the term "n*gger."

But since she disobeyed orders in 1959 and allowed her "colored" students to pass her English class, even though she'd been instructed not to give them any special treatment, (in other words, let them fail) I've always assumed her racism was, as they say, no more than skin deep. Unlike yours, Paula.
 
2013-06-20 11:28:52 PM

Babwa Wawa: What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...


Every time I try to say it what actually comes out is "attractive and successful African American".

It's really weird.
 
2013-06-20 11:31:36 PM
Bumblefark:
/But, if you really want to press the point, I'd be interested to know where you've found a human being entirely free of bigotry. The various academies of the human sciences would probably like to collect such a specimen.

Every human being who lives around other human being has some form of bigotry, whether it's against foodies or catholics or people who ride fixies. My point is that it's up to you as to how much you let bigotry infest your psyche, to the point where under any sort of stress racial epithets come flying out of your face.

If the word n***er isn't a regular part of your thought processes, the chances of it being released at any time are minimal. It's like this: I'm not British, so the phrase "bloody hell" isn't part of my normal speech, and it wouldn't say it, even under stress. For someone from the east end of London though, that phrase might be first on their lips.

In essence, you alone choose your level of bigotry, and toward whom. That is the third option.
 
2013-06-20 11:32:19 PM

Bumblefark: rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people

Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.


As a southerner, I agree to this. Better than pretending you are enlightened but somehow you can count the number of black people that have been in your house, and make great pains to mention the "black friend" that your child hangs out with, as part of some group activity
 
2013-06-20 11:32:50 PM

kortex: Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.


Are you that guy that says things like, "I don't know why but black people never seem to like me."  if so, the problem may be you.
 
2013-06-20 11:35:52 PM

Greylight: Sooooooo her story is the bank robber forced her to say it by holding a gun to her head.  I'm just paraphrasing here but I can't get that image out of my head ...

Robber: "Say it, say it!"
Paula Deen: "No, it's too horrible and it will go on my permanent record that I am a racist."


I hope it went very similar to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYYBJ8XRdh4
 
2013-06-20 11:36:59 PM
Babwa Wawa: So if you were placed under oath, you would swear to God that you've never said the word, right?

Damn straight. My company was once sued for discrimination by a deadbeat black worker by the black agenda assh*les out of Tallahassee, and won. A key point in my favor was that nobody ever heard me say the "n" word. It's not what ultimately decided the case (some fellow rural black friends speaking for me did that) but to have every witness asked if they'd ever heard me say it and have them say no didn't hurt any, either.
/In the south, being raised right used to protect you.
 
2013-06-20 11:43:53 PM

varmitydog: Nope. As an older white person from the south (I actually lived in Albany, Georgia at the same time she was there, for a short while) I know the rules, and she is full of it. Respectable white folks in the south never say n*gg*r. Only poor white trash do that. You can hate blacks with a purple passion, but if you have any class at all, you never say the word. Just the same as you would never say any other swear word. And revealing that you did in public, under oath? Please. GTFO.

So I'm sorry Paula, regardless of how rich and famous you will ever become, you are simply NOKD. (not our kind, dear)


I'm calling BS.  What you say may be true today, but as late as 1968 (and maybe even into the late '70s) Respectable white folk (or white folk of any class) in the South would have found that word entering their conversations on a regular basis.  It's just how things were.  Most cleaned up their act after their schools and workplaces became integrated, but those who were too old to care were just too old to care.  Even Happy Chandler, the man who integrated baseball, regularly said the word in public in the late '80s.
 
2013-06-20 11:43:53 PM

rewind2846: Mock26:
So what if it is part of your vocabulary?  It is possible to know the word and not apply it to all black people and only apply it to select individuals.

You know there's a third option. I'll let you guess what that is.


I never said that the third option did not exist.  I was merely pointing out that that is not the only option.  If a man calls a woman the c-word does that mean that he is a sexist who hates women?  Of course not.  Similarly, if a white person calls a black person the n-word that does not mean that he is a racist who hates black people.  It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.
 
2013-06-20 11:47:15 PM

rewind2846:
Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.


You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.
 
2013-06-20 11:55:45 PM
Perhaps leading by example and not using the word within "the community" to set an example might go further instead of trying to catch people in superficial word traps while the popular media features countless people using the word freely.

If you want to treated with respect, how about showing some self-respect?
 
2013-06-21 12:02:09 AM
Mock26:It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.

Then I ask the question again: why can't the white person simply call the black person he is angry at an asshole? Jerkoff? Moron? Dickhead? Sh*t for brains? Why use n****r?
 
2013-06-21 12:02:35 AM

the money is in the banana stand: Yet I can turn on BET and watch rampant racism that is acceptable. Makes sense.


If you think Bill Cosby can get away with doing a Jeff Foxworthy routine, then you have a point.
 
2013-06-21 12:03:36 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Do racist remarks hurt or help with her fan base? I was under the impression the the average Paula Dean fan probably used the N word pretty often themselves when talking about the colored folkes. (not Oprah of course, she's one of the good ones. So articulate.)


Where do you get that idea?
 
2013-06-21 12:06:57 AM

rewind2846: Mock26:It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.

Then I ask the question again: why can't the white person simply call the black person he is angry at an asshole? Jerkoff? Moron? Dickhead? Sh*t for brains? Why use n****r?


Different levels of anger call for different words.
 
2013-06-21 12:10:50 AM

rewind2846: In essence, you alone choose your level of bigotry, and toward whom. That is the third option.


Fair enough. I'm just not sure that's empirically true. I mean, most of the research I've seen seems to suggest that bigotry is a pretty insidious (and mostly unconscious) aspect of human psychology. Universally so. And what resides in the subconscious is pretty much by definition outside of our conscious control.

I certainly get your point that the person who also consciously practices bigoted thoughts, by putting them into their everyday language habits, are abnormally preoccupied with their bigotries. I don't disagree with that, and my point wasn't, "let's all embrace our moral failings!"

My point was simply to suggest that covert bigotry is probably the bigger social problem than the idiot who openly wears their moral failings on their sleeve. Those people are easy to spot and ridicule. My worries are for the "cultured" bigot, who is practiced enough in self-deception to have convinced themselves (and those around them) that they aren't bigoted at all.

Fano: As a southerner, I agree to this. Better than pretending you are enlightened but somehow you can count the number of black people that have been in your house, and make great pains to mention the "black friend" that your child hangs out with, as part of some group activity


...and, yup: I've spent a fair amount of time in the South, myself. That's clearly colored my view of things.

/Heh..."colored."
 
2013-06-21 12:11:53 AM

rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people


If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.
 
2013-06-21 12:12:16 AM
Cataholic: I'm calling BS. What you say may be true today, but as late as 1968 (and maybe even into the late '70s) Respectable white folk (or white folk of any class) in the South would have found that word entering their conversations on a regular basis. It's just how things were. Most cleaned up their act after their schools and workplaces became integrated, but those who were too old to care were just too old to care. Even Happy Chandler, the man who integrated baseball, regularly said the word in public in the late '80s.

I'm 56, so my time frame would be from around 61 to when things changed in the late 70's. During that time the "n" word was very much a swear word, and in those times swearing in public was very much frowned upon and not tolerated like it is today. Remember Carlin's magic words? Add the "n" word to it.
Of course there were always people who swore and used not only n*gg*r but also all the other colorful expressions for them: jig-a-boo, spade, darkie, burrhead, junglebunny, spearchucker, spook, missionary eater, etc., that have all but disappeared. But it might have been different for different areas of the south, for in north Alabama and on the Gulf Coast we always referred to the blacks as "colored folks", and some of the older folks (70's and up) still do, but some farker from South Carolina informed me that nobody has used that term in forty years over there. But using the n word where I grew up would get you a taste of soap for swearing. Which nowadays is child abuse.
 
2013-06-21 12:13:52 AM
lohphat:
You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.


You might want to look a little closer at that "culture" prase, before it gets you into trouble. Just as not all (or even most) asian aren't computer geniuses, blanket statements like the ones you made usually result from too much FoxNews and other right-wing information sources. And let's not even go into the Asian Tongs, which have lasted for many generations in this country, along with the current rash of asian "gangstaz", okay?

I can also call a word anything I choose. You don't get to determine that for me, so get it through your thick head. You don't have that power, and you never will. Tough sh*t.

Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.
 
2013-06-21 12:14:46 AM
Wait, we're judging people by what they did and said 30 years ago?  'Cause 30 years I go I was still shiatting myself and sucking nipples.  I probably even bathed nude with my parents.  I must have been such a deviant!  30 years is a long time.  A long, long time. People can change over a few years, much less 30.  I don't care if she was in the KKK 30 years ago so long as she doesn't bring racism to her personality and products today.
 
2013-06-21 12:17:22 AM

Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.


Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.
 
2013-06-21 12:22:27 AM
Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?
 
2013-06-21 12:23:18 AM

lohphat: rewind2846:
Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.

You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.


I'd love to know who the fark asked for your pity? Or why I need introspection because some old white lady is a bigot. Kinda telling that in a thread where there should only be one bad guy you've made it a discussion about how bad black people are. Eat a bowl.
 
2013-06-21 12:26:09 AM

rewind2846: Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?


1993 was when gangsta rap hit maximum cultural saturation. I could see how someone in 1993 might use the n-word.
 
2013-06-21 12:29:51 AM
AverageAmericanGuy:

1993 was when gangsta rap hit maximum cultural saturation. I could see how someone in 1993 might use the n-word.

You're not suggesting that this poster child for THE DIABEETUS was actually "M.C.P.D., gangsta rap star, two turntables and a stick of butter", are you? Cause that would be really stupid.
 
2013-06-21 12:46:49 AM

rewind2846: Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?


No, she was living in the south (Savannah, Georgia to be exact), working as a bank teller.

Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago.  The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Hell, 20 years ago my grandmother used it in everyday conversation.  She was in her 60's, and she used every epithet and slur you'd ever heard of, I don't think she even knew non-offensive names for non-whites (the most polite term she had was "colored" and she refused to use anti-Semitic terms on the religious grounds that since she believed that Jews were the chosen people, it was insulting to God to use insulting names for them)

As a little kid, I learned some very interesting words and expressions from her. . .until my mother caught me using them and quickly put a stop to that.
 
2013-06-21 12:49:04 AM
Everybody is racist. Who cares?
 
2013-06-21 01:17:04 AM

Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.


Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.
 
2013-06-21 01:34:15 AM

rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.


Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

I guess you've never once in your life ever said anything you'd regret, even if it was decades prior?  Not a single racial slur, not a single sexist comment, not a single homophobic joke, not a single Islamophobic or anti-Semitic remark?

She probably would have called him an asshole, or a farker or something.  Yeah, there is an excuse, people aren't perfect, and somebody saying a word doesn't instantly make them a bad person.

So yeah, it's a fine excuse: people aren't perfect, and one racial slur said in a emotionally charged incident 20 years ago is perfectly forgivable to any reasonable person.
 
2013-06-21 01:55:06 AM

rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.


What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.
 
2013-06-21 01:56:43 AM
So she uttered a racial slur in the privacy of her own home and has to apologize for that? My lord.
 
2013-06-21 02:01:20 AM
Silverstaff:

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

Nothing to do with being "politically correct", which I believe is code for "I can't be an asshole anymore"... it has to do with where your head was at, what kind of person you choose to be.

Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

You're trying to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. I might be willing to give her, and you, a pass if this were 1963 when she said it... but it was supposed to be in the early 90's. There is no excuse. Why she may not have used the same term as she might have had a white man had her at gunpoint gives one some insight as to what kind of person she really is, and not the facade she puts on for her television audience. That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.
 
2013-06-21 02:05:20 AM

rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.


Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".
 
2013-06-21 02:10:12 AM
Fano:
What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.


No, it is you who needs to fire up a few brain cells. Let me explain it to you, and I'll type slowly.

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. What word would Deen have used to describe the gunman had that person been white? As in "this asshole is robbing the bank!" Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. Simple.

now~

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. Why didn't Deen use the same word to describe the black gunman? Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. What makes him so different that he requires a whole new description?

There. Get back to me when you've thought that puzzle through.
 
2013-06-21 02:12:11 AM

lohphat: rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.

Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".


Neither do I, which is why I didn't/don't use that phrase. Telling that you did, isn't it?
 
2013-06-21 02:15:38 AM

rewind2846: Silverstaff:

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

Nothing to do with being "politically correct", which I believe is code for "I can't be an asshole anymore"... it has to do with where your head was at, what kind of person you choose to be.

Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

You're trying to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. I might be willing to give her, and you, a pass if this were 1963 when she said it... but it was supposed to be in the early 90's. There is no excuse. Why she may not have used the same term as she might have had a white man had her at gunpoint gives one some insight as to what kind of person she really is, and not the facade she puts on for her television audience. That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.


You seem determined to misunderstand what people are saying, either because you don't want to understand or because you're trolling or something.  There are two points being made, and only one of them is that she was in an emotionally charged situation.  The other point, which is added to the first, is that she is white trash from the south and was probably exposed to that word in terrible contexts much more frequently than someone from a different background.  And it's not okay, of course it isn't, but the point people are making is that the rush to judge someone's entire character based on that event is small minded.  And misses many of the nuances of how humans interact, and change over time, and learn new things, and grow.  And repeated attempts to ignore those things makes it difficult for progress to be made.  The idea is we want to be better than that, don't we?
 
2013-06-21 02:18:24 AM

TerminalEchoes: So she uttered a racial slur in the privacy of her own home and has to apologize for that? My lord.


I'm not asking that she apologize for it, because I don't know her nor was it directed at me. The point is that now there are some cockroaches in her kitchen that have been exposed to the light, and that homespun southern matron bullsh*t act, sales pitch and image she has so lovingly crafted is showing noticeable wear and tear. It was also germane to the particulars of the case she was giving the deposition for.

Never bought her stuff, don't give a sh*t. I simply dislike phonies and liars, especially racist ones.
 
2013-06-21 02:18:39 AM
Wow really? removing long standing meme images for being racist? I guess fark has joined the downcline of today's media standards where no one has a sense of humor anymore. That is ok we can just do personal attacks and call her fat, and that is all ok. But make fun of what she said is racist.
 
2013-06-21 02:24:38 AM

rewind2846: lohphat: rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.

Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".

Neither do I, which is why I didn't/don't use that phrase. Telling that you did, isn't it?


You, unfortunately are not representative. You know this. Time and time again we hear the testimonials of people trying to escape that "culture" because education is eschewed and dysfunction embraced.

The "white man" is not your problem. The black on black violence stats stand on their own.
 
2013-06-21 02:26:14 AM

rewind2846: Fano:
What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.

No, it is you who needs to fire up a few brain cells. Let me explain it to you, and I'll type slowly.

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. What word would Deen have used to describe the gunman had that person been white? As in "this asshole is robbing the bank!" Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. Simple.

now~

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. Why didn't Deen use the same word to describe the black gunman? Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. What makes him so different that he requires a whole new description?

There. Get back to me when you've thought that puzzle through.


You can conduct that tune for your Aspieland Band, but let's scratch the needle for a second. If a black woman was being held at gunpoint... by a white guy... with a gun, you would not give her the least bit of forgiveness for uttering the words "ofay, honky, or cracker" in describing the person that did so?

It's not ok to use racial slurs, and she is certainly not off the hook for the other offensive shiat she has said. But this is where you are pushing the LEAST persuasive part of your argument.

Let's requote you:"Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

Why golly, neither of these situations seem in the same level of duress as the others. To be fairer in the first count might be a Vietnam P.O.W. and in the second a man who just went through a nasty divorce.

The world is messy. And people use words of power when they feel powerless.
 
Displayed 50 of 255 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report