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2013-06-20 05:29:36 PM  
These butter jokes get margarinely worse every time.
 
2013-06-20 05:37:04 PM  
www.newpride.tv
 
2013-06-20 05:37:41 PM  
Meh, who cares?  In ten years it won't matter, because her heart will explode long before that.
 
2013-06-20 05:37:42 PM  
Her reputation is going to get creamed if the internet keeps churning with these accusations.  She's really jumped out of the pan and into the fryer.
 
2013-06-20 05:39:42 PM  
img.fark.netimg.fark.netimg.fark.net img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 05:47:02 PM  
I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.
 
2013-06-20 05:58:49 PM  

shanrick: I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.


Oh c'mon, it's Paula Deen! OF COURSE there's going to be pictures!

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 06:04:13 PM  
1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

if she responded to a guy with a gun to her head by basically saying, "do it, (n word)", she at least gets my respect for her swinging brass balls.
 
2013-06-20 06:07:10 PM  
Do racist remarks hurt or help with her fan base? I was under the impression the the average Paula Dean fan probably used the N word pretty often themselves when talking about the colored folkes. (not Oprah of course, she's one of the good ones. So articulate.)
 
2013-06-20 06:24:12 PM  

Wall_of_Doodoo: Do racist remarks hurt or help with her fan base? I was under the impression the the average Paula Dean fan probably used the N word pretty often themselves when talking about the colored folkes. (not Oprah of course, she's one of the good ones. So articulate.)


I would expect a Chik-Fil-A effect where her supporters by butter in droves to stick it to the politically correct libs.
 
2013-06-20 06:30:29 PM  
The interviews I've seen are ridiculous.
 
2013-06-20 06:33:17 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 06:35:36 PM  
What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...
 
2013-06-20 06:47:08 PM  

Babwa Wawa: What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...


img.fark.net
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-06-20 06:52:15 PM  
I think it in pretty rare for someone of her generation to not have been a racist at some point.  Look at all the people her age who are outraged over Blackmancare, even though they like the actual policies.
 
2013-06-20 06:54:40 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: [img.fark.net image 362x311][img.fark.net image 362x311][img.fark.net image 362x311] [img.fark.net image 362x311]


Very disturbing. I can't unsee it.

+1
 
2013-06-20 07:00:09 PM  
KILL OLD PEOPLE. Problem solved?
 
2013-06-20 07:03:28 PM  
Wait so it is a big deal?
 
2013-06-20 07:03:53 PM  
Can't wait for her recipe for eating crow.

1. Butter
2. Crow
 
2013-06-20 07:05:07 PM  
awesomelyluvvie.com
 
2013-06-20 07:05:25 PM  
Would that be Jim?
 
2013-06-20 07:05:49 PM  
I thought she would go with the "Oh no no, it's cool, I am taking it back" defense.
 
2013-06-20 07:06:57 PM  
It's not because she's old or successful.  Fat, Southern and stupid is no way to live, even if you're in Honey Boo Boo's fam.
 
2013-06-20 07:07:30 PM  
So, Who's this old washed up coont, and why should I care about her retarded racist bullshiat?
 
2013-06-20 07:07:34 PM  
PainInTheASP

img.fark.net

I don't really know why. Just because.
 
2013-06-20 07:07:56 PM  
Paula's newest recipe is for coon pie.
 
2013-06-20 07:08:01 PM  
img.fark.net

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 07:08:02 PM  
So she can get away with racism by stereotyping old people as racists.  That makes it better.
 
2013-06-20 07:08:56 PM  
Oh you know Paula, she just loves to ham it up on camera.
 
2013-06-20 07:08:56 PM  
Well, it's hard to refute that, because it seems most old white people ARE farking racist. In the U.S., anyway.

That doesn't make it right, I'm just sayin' ...

Expecting racial sensitivity from old people (esp. old southerners) is like expecting good table manners from a toddler.
 
2013-06-20 07:09:06 PM  
 
2013-06-20 07:09:23 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 07:10:49 PM  
I hope I never get famous, so I won't have to pretend like I'm not racist.
 
2013-06-20 07:11:09 PM  

Babwa Wawa: What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...


I know the group hates it, but I love N.W.A.'s nubianz4Life, and sing along to it often still.

I'm white.  Am I a bad person?

/maybe just bad taste in music
 
2013-06-20 07:12:17 PM  
she needs a snarky butler to remind her of her place in society
www.dvdizzy.com
 
2013-06-20 07:13:07 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 07:13:52 PM  

ten foiled hats: Babwa Wawa: What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...

I know the group hates it, but I love N.W.A.'s nubianz4Life, and sing along to it often still.

I'm white.  Am I a bad person?

/maybe just bad taste in music


nubianz?  Is that how we're doing it?  Let's try EFIL4ZAGGIN.
 
2013-06-20 07:14:37 PM  
Does she still have the picture of her son with his partner blurred out in her cooking shows?

/yes?
//also a bigot then
 
2013-06-20 07:15:45 PM  
Seriously, Fark?  You seriously believe none of us in the south ever said that word?  Hell at least, unlike some of the precious snowflakes on this forum, she told the truth.

Not a Paula Deen fan.
 
2013-06-20 07:16:06 PM  

Uzzah: PainInTheASP

[img.fark.net image 630x378]

I don't really know why. Just because.


Oh that's.....that's......beautiful!  And disturbing. Actually, that's just disturbing. And I'm totally stealing it.
 
2013-06-20 07:16:55 PM  

PainInTheASP: shanrick: I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.

Oh c'mon, it's Paula Deen! OF COURSE there's going to be pictures!

[img.fark.net image 514x308]


Is it just me or does she look like Oprah's whiter twin in that photo??
 
2013-06-20 07:17:50 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Seriously, Fark?  You seriously believe none of us in the south ever said that word?  Hell at least, unlike some of the precious snowflakes on this forum, she told the truth.

Not a Paula Deen fan.


People all over the country say it all the time. It's hardly a southern phenomenon.
 
2013-06-20 07:17:57 PM  
The newest dessert in her cookbook: Mango Unchained
 
2013-06-20 07:18:47 PM  
Is it just me or are Uproxx pages unscrollable on mobile platforms?
 
2013-06-20 07:22:11 PM  
I know I said in the last thread, but seriously: This is SCREAMING to be featured on the next season of "The boondocks". Hell, have Paula Deen hook up with Uncle Ruckus and see what happens!
 
2013-06-20 07:23:24 PM  
I heard about this on the radio this morning, and she admitted to wanting to throw a "slave themed party, where all the colored people would dress up and pose like slaves"... Would the whip scars be real or just butter smears?

I honestly can say I wasn't in the least bit surprised that she's a racist fark... Considering her age, her general area of origin, and such, she is probably more racist than my uncle, and he lives in bumfark Arkansas...
 
2013-06-20 07:23:46 PM  

digitalrain: PainInTheASP: shanrick: I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.

Oh c'mon, it's Paula Deen! OF COURSE there's going to be pictures!

[img.fark.net image 514x308]

Is it just me or does she look like Oprah's whiter twin in that photo??


Maybe because of the the hair?  But I can see it too.
 
2013-06-20 07:23:55 PM  
1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.
 
2013-06-20 07:24:37 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spanky McStupid: Seriously, Fark?  You seriously believe none of us in the south ever said that word?  Hell at least, unlike some of the precious snowflakes on this forum, she told the truth.

Not a Paula Deen fan.

People all over the country say it all the time. It's hardly a southern phenomenon.


I said it twice just reading this.
 
2013-06-20 07:26:01 PM  

PainInTheASP: digitalrain: PainInTheASP: shanrick: I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.

Oh c'mon, it's Paula Deen! OF COURSE there's going to be pictures!

[img.fark.net image 514x308]

Is it just me or does she look like Oprah's whiter twin in that photo??

Maybe because of the the hair?  But I can see it too.


Whew...ok...glad it wasn't just me. Thought for a second I was being racist. Or reverse racist. Or inverted and reverse
racist or something.
 
2013-06-20 07:27:55 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 07:28:13 PM  
The deposition transcript portion in question can be found here http://eater.com/archives/2013/06/20/heres-the-racist-paula-deen-depo s ition-trancript.php

If you were white and lived in the South in the 60's your probably a racist by any objective measure.  I'm not sure I'm horrified by this.

/wait am I now a rascist?
 
2013-06-20 07:31:21 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory:  


Gah! My eyes! I knew I had you favorited for a reason.
 
2013-06-20 07:34:56 PM  

Mock26: 1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.


I guess, if you're looking for an excuse to use a word.
 
2013-06-20 07:35:31 PM  
That guy at the chicken shack was n*ggardly with the ranch sauce.
 
2013-06-20 07:36:25 PM  
My personal experience has been that the people who use that word in the most derogatory and vicious manner are black people talking about or yelling at other black people.

And racism isn't limited to old white people by any stretch of the imagination, and it certainly isn't limited to the United States.
 
2013-06-20 07:38:30 PM  
Patti Smith couldn't take back rock and roll porch monkey either and neither will Paula Deen
 
2013-06-20 07:40:29 PM  

MNguy: Mock26: 1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.

I guess, if you're looking for an excuse to use a word.


Wow do you have to be looking for an excuse to use the word?  Sometimes words come out when you are angry.
 
2013-06-20 07:43:33 PM  

MNguy: That guy at the chicken shack was n*ggardly with the ranch sauce.


Why are you self censoring?  nubianrdly is not related to n*gger.  Their etymologies are completely different.
 
2013-06-20 07:43:45 PM  
Also, let's please talk about the staggering unfairness of how Dave Chappelle gets to say it but poor Paula Deen and Bill O'Reilly (et al) can't.

/actually, I can't believe someone hasn't brought that up yet
//why, those people call  each other that to one another's faces!
///the injustice of it! And they call me a racist! etc. etc.
 
2013-06-20 07:44:11 PM  
Holy shiat, this thread is just full of nightmare fuel
 
2013-06-20 07:44:30 PM  

Mock26: MNguy: That guy at the chicken shack was n*ggardly with the ranch sauce.

Why are you self censoring?  nubianrdly is not related to n*gger.  Their etymologies are completely different.


Apparently Fark mods think its censor worthy.
 
2013-06-20 07:44:49 PM  
Willing to bet Oprah has said worse things in reference to white people at some point in her life. Not excusing Paula Deen for anything, just saying it doesn't make her a racist.
 
2013-06-20 07:45:21 PM  

Mock26: Why are you self censoring? nubianrdly is not related to n*gger. Their etymologies are completely different.


That's why.
 
2013-06-20 07:46:31 PM  
Of course she has said it.  In her defense, she was just quoting her servants.
 
2013-06-20 07:47:14 PM  

valkore: Mock26: Why are you self censoring? nubianrdly is not related to n*gger. Their etymologies are completely different.

That's why.


Well, and nobody in their right mind would ever say such a thing.
 
2013-06-20 07:47:18 PM  
Okay - gosh - Paula Dean is a product of her environment (include area and age) and probably
wont ever "catch up" with the larger progressive community
I know a woman like this, same age, southern, who swore to me she could NOT be racist because
she worked alongside "those people" on her daddy's farm as a child -
bite your lip, people and do as my mother did - she taught me so well I can't force the "n" word
(or the "c" word) out of my mouth without feeling dirty and stupid for using "small" and "useless" words

This too, will pass
 
2013-06-20 07:47:32 PM  
She's old? Who knew!
 
2013-06-20 07:48:47 PM  
Who cares? And her handlers are right. Open racism was common and the N word was commonly used.
Geeze, it happened, that's the way it was.
You can't judge past behavior with current standards. It does no good, you can't change the way it used to be.
And racism is still living large. We just don't openly express it anymore. And we openly pretend that we don't, and never did condoned it.
In fact, we are so afraid of being accused of being racist, that we won't call it out on others that clearly demonstrate it.
 
2013-06-20 07:49:30 PM  

semiotix: Also, let's please talk about the staggering unfairness of how Dave Chappelle gets to say it but poor Paula Deen and Bill O'Reilly (et al) can't.

/actually, I can't believe someone hasn't brought that up yet
//why, those people call  each other that to one another's faces!
///the injustice of it! And they call me a racist! etc. etc.


Because the world is full of hypocrisy and double standards, get used to it.

The last 2 presidents have admitted to doing cocaine yet someone that admits that in a background check for a security clearance won't get the clearance.

/no I've never don't cocaine. It was just an example off the top of my head.
 
2013-06-20 07:53:44 PM  
Sometimes, when discussing English profanity with Chinese grad students, you have to explain why the n-word will end your career but other profanity won't - and they may not understand what you mean by "the n-word" unless you explain it. I think that gets a pass.
 
2013-06-20 07:54:29 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mock26: MNguy: That guy at the chicken shack was n*ggardly with the ranch sauce.

Why are you self censoring?  nubianrdly is not related to n*gger.  Their etymologies are completely different.

Apparently Fark mods think its censor worthy.


Woah.  That is some seriously farked up schitt.
 
2013-06-20 07:54:38 PM  
The one time white people can say ni**er, OK: if it's Christmas Eve, and it's between 4:30 and 4:49 in the morning. If you white, and you're on your way to Toys 'R' Us to get your kid the last Transformer doll, and right before you walk into Toys 'R' Us, some black person runs up beside you, smacks you in the head with a brick, knocks you to the ground, stomps on your face--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Riverdances on your head--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Takes your money, pisses on you, and runs away--if you white, at that moment, you can say "Somebody stop that ni**er!"

Matter of fact, if you white and that happens to you, you can say ni**er for a whole month! But you gotta walk around with the police report in your pocket. In case any black people catch you sayin' ni**er, the police report will act as your freedom papers. "Hey, I heard you saying ni**er; let me see your farkin' papers. Gimme the papers; show me the papers!" [pretends to read a sheet] "Christmas Eve! 4:48! You just made it, motherfarker! Pissed on you! ...I hope they catch that ni**er!"
 
2013-06-20 07:56:17 PM  
Does that mean that watch Blazing Saddles is wrong now too?
 
2013-06-20 07:56:58 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Well, it's hard to refute that, because it seems most old white people ARE farking racist. In the U.S., anyway.


 One of the topics of the recent Bilderberg meetings was whether or not to allow racism to spread outside of white people in the US, but I believe it was decided against.
My theory is that they're planning to release it the next time there's a major world conflict.
 
2013-06-20 07:57:20 PM  
I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest. People in the South were openly racist then. Come to think of it, lotsa people in this country are openly racist NOW.
 
2013-06-20 07:58:10 PM  
img.fark.net

Parkay!
 
2013-06-20 08:00:10 PM  
Say what you want. Just leave the nooses home.
/ just hate when Nubians use it too
 
2013-06-20 08:01:56 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Not a Paula Deen fan.


I'm more of a James Deen fan.
 
2013-06-20 08:03:09 PM  

Uzzah: PainInTheASP

[img.fark.net image 630x378]

I don't really know why. Just because.


Looks like fun. Let's go full Lovecraftian abomination!
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 08:03:12 PM  

MNguy: valkore: Mock26: Why are you self censoring? nubianrdly is not related to n*gger. Their etymologies are completely different.

That's why.

Well, and nobody in their right mind would ever say such a thing.


Why not? img.fark.net is a perfectly valid word that has absolutely nothing to do with racism at all.
 
2013-06-20 08:04:20 PM  
She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"
 
2013-06-20 08:04:44 PM  

lack of warmth: Parkay!


F*CK YOU!
 
2013-06-20 08:12:31 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

"Screw you,Marge Simpson! Don't read my books and don't make my recipes! May my curse follow you beyond the grave!"  -Paula Paul
 
2013-06-20 08:15:02 PM  
So, she should have used the word reggin in reverse instead, or would you rather hear her call black people slaves? Just forget about her, it's not like she can destroy the future of a multi-culture future. We're already multi-cultural and only a few people can't let go of the fact that there are no master and slave classes anymore.
 
2013-06-20 08:21:52 PM  
it's still considered racism cause black people were stupid to come to america.  and no one likes to be called STUPID
 
2013-06-20 08:22:02 PM  

valkore: Oh you know Paula, she just loves to ham it up on camera.


Oh lawdy! I have seen that video before, but today is the first time I noticed sad & fat Kenny Rogers shaking his head in hammy disapproval. Watch the last few seconds.
 
Slu
2013-06-20 08:25:33 PM  
Who gives a shiat?  Paula Deen sucks.  And is fat.  And is old.  She will probably be dead soon.  Or at least off TV.
 
2013-06-20 08:25:36 PM  

oovah: Does that mean that watch Blazing Saddles is wrong now too?


See if you can suss out why Blazing Saddles works and what Deen said does not. Study it out.
 
2013-06-20 08:31:17 PM  
Yep, right up there with "Obama ain't no fascist cuz he's black!" (spoken in Sam L Jackson voice)

*sigh*
 
2013-06-20 08:31:48 PM  

valkore: Mock26: Why are you self censoring? nubianrdly is not related to n*gger. Their etymologies are completely different.

That's why.


There's also the whole "losing your job because other people are ignorant" issue.
 
2013-06-20 08:48:09 PM  

Mock26: MNguy: That guy at the chicken shack was n*ggardly with the ranch sauce.

Why are you self censoring?  nubianrdly is not related to n*gger.  Their etymologies are completely different.


People have been fired for making that distinction by people who can't.
 
2013-06-20 08:51:39 PM  
Yet I can turn on BET and watch rampant racism that is acceptable. Makes sense.
 
2013-06-20 08:52:04 PM  

Mock26: 1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.


...and then some. Call a spade a spade, and all that...
 
2013-06-20 08:52:20 PM  

digitalrain: The one time white people can say ni**er, OK: if it's Christmas Eve, and it's between 4:30 and 4:49 in the morning. If you white, and you're on your way to Toys 'R' Us to get your kid the last Transformer doll, and right before you walk into Toys 'R' Us, some black person runs up beside you, smacks you in the head with a brick, knocks you to the ground, stomps on your face--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Riverdances on your head--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Takes your money, pisses on you, and runs away--if you white, at that moment, you can say "Somebody stop that ni**er!"

Matter of fact, if you white and that happens to you, you can say ni**er for a whole month! But you gotta walk around with the police report in your pocket. In case any black people catch you sayin' ni**er, the police report will act as your freedom papers. "Hey, I heard you saying ni**er; let me see your farkin' papers. Gimme the papers; show me the papers!" [pretends to read a sheet] "Christmas Eve! 4:48! You just made it, motherfarker! Pissed on you! ...I hope they catch that ni**er!"


That was hilarious.
 
2013-06-20 08:54:39 PM  

parasol: Okay - gosh - Paula Dean is a product of her environment (include area and age) and probably
wont ever "catch up" with the larger progressive community
I know a woman like this, same age, southern, who swore to me she could NOT be racist because
she worked alongside "those people" on her daddy's farm as a child -
bite your lip, people and do as my mother did - she taught me so well I can't force the "n" word
(or the "c" word) out of my mouth without feeling dirty and stupid for using "small" and "useless" words

This too, will pass


Savannah is 67% black. Not that it matters a lot but there's not a lot of blatant racism here if any. Paula just happens to be the worst thing to get famous from here.
 
2013-06-20 08:55:02 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Yet I can turn on BET and watch rampant racism that is acceptable. Makes sense.


is it any coincidence that BET is an anagram for EBT
 
2013-06-20 09:00:10 PM  

bdub77: I'm pretty sure she said 'attractive and successful African-Americans' and it came out wrong with that fake southern drawl.


apparently nag -- well you know,  hits a filter.
 
2013-06-20 09:01:08 PM  
There's a time and place for even "Lootie" to show up.  This is one of those times cause I don't care about Paula Dean calorie excessive fat infused personal life.

i379.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-20 09:01:15 PM  

Mrs.Sharpier: digitalrain: The one time white people can say ni**er, OK: if it's Christmas Eve, and it's between 4:30 and 4:49 in the morning. If you white, and you're on your way to Toys 'R' Us to get your kid the last Transformer doll, and right before you walk into Toys 'R' Us, some black person runs up beside you, smacks you in the head with a brick, knocks you to the ground, stomps on your face--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Riverdances on your head--"take that, you cracker-ass motherfarker!" Takes your money, pisses on you, and runs away--if you white, at that moment, you can say "Somebody stop that ni**er!"

Matter of fact, if you white and that happens to you, you can say ni**er for a whole month! But you gotta walk around with the police report in your pocket. In case any black people catch you sayin' ni**er, the police report will act as your freedom papers. "Hey, I heard you saying ni**er; let me see your farkin' papers. Gimme the papers; show me the papers!" [pretends to read a sheet] "Christmas Eve! 4:48! You just made it, motherfarker! Pissed on you! ...I hope they catch that ni**er!"

That was hilarious.


Wish I could take credit. It's Chris Rock's genius, not mine :)
 
2013-06-20 09:02:30 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: [encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 200x168]

"Screw you,Marge Simpson! Don't read my books and don't make my recipes! May my curse follow you beyond the grave!"  -Paula Paul


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 09:04:20 PM  
So an old southern woman used a racist term 27 years ago when describing the person who held a gun to her head during a robbery?

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 09:10:49 PM  
i379.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-20 09:14:26 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Seriously, Fark?  You seriously believe none of us in the south ever said that word?


On the contrary, we believe that y'all rarely utter a sentence without including it.
 
2013-06-20 09:14:31 PM  

red5ish: My personal experience has been that the people who use that word in the most derogatory and vicious manner are black people talking about or yelling at other black people.

And racism isn't limited to old white people by any stretch of the imagination, and it certainly isn't limited to the United States.


White people aren't bad! EVERYBODY does it!

/Is that the defense you're going to run with? Lol
 
2013-06-20 09:14:57 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Spanky McStupid: Seriously, Fark?  You seriously believe none of us in the south ever said that word?

On the contrary, we believe that y'all rarely utter a sentence without including it.


n-word what?
 
2013-06-20 09:15:07 PM  
...aaaaand Southern.  Don't forget she's Southern!
 
2013-06-20 09:19:17 PM  

Omahawg: Patti Smith couldn't take back rock and roll porch monkey either and neither will Paula Deen


Did someone say "porch monkey?"
 
2013-06-20 09:20:47 PM  
Just to be safe, I think we should assume that anyone with that horrible accent is a racist.
 
2013-06-20 09:26:08 PM  
As for her "I'm from a different generation" excuse, baloney. She's not 90, and she hasn't been locked away in a sanitarium for the past 40 years. She's a hugely successful, well-travelled professional. Her failings are her own doing.
 
2013-06-20 09:27:35 PM  

Perducci: Just to be safe, I think we should assume that anyone with that horrible accent is a racist.


I kind of suspected as much.

farking Australians...
 
2013-06-20 09:32:24 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I hope I never get famous, so I won't have to pretend like I'm not racist.


heh
 
2013-06-20 09:34:31 PM  
Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.
 
2013-06-20 09:38:39 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-20 09:38:50 PM  
Jesus this is getting entirely out of proportion. She's an old fat woman who got famous for having a cooking show. She's not running for office or heading a major university. Who gives a fark what offensive words are in her vocabulary?

If we're going to ride people out on a rail for the dumb shiat they do, I think a little bit of casual bigotry is pretty farking far down the list.
 
2013-06-20 09:39:52 PM  
That word used to really make me mad when I was young, fresh outta small town white high school. In the last 16 years, I've lived in different cities, met tons of good and bad people, and the word doesn't really bug me anymore.

/shrugs
 
2013-06-20 09:40:32 PM  
She was asked under oath if she'd ever used the word N--ger.  Come on, who hasn't used that word in a sentence at least once?  Jesus.
Being this repressed isn't good for society.
 
2013-06-20 09:41:06 PM  
Seriously, how does this woman cook any better than some of our grandmothers? It might be tasty, but what she does isn't exactly the art of a real chef. I watched her show once (was a captive audience), and nothing she did was unique or intriguing. She's a great cook, and I'd gladly eat one of her meals after a long day, but a celebrity 'chef?'
 
2013-06-20 09:42:59 PM  

Mock26: MNguy: Mock26: 1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.

I guess, if you're looking for an excuse to use a word.

Wow do you have to be looking for an excuse to use the word?  Sometimes words come out when you are angry.


If the word isn't already part of your vocabulary, it can't just "come out" under any circumstances, now can it? It has to be "in there" in the first place.
/yes you're looking for an excuse to say a word you really want to say but know that it is socially unacceptable
//admit it
 
2013-06-20 09:51:29 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: She was asked under oath if she'd ever used the word N--ger.  Come on, who hasn't used that word in a sentence at least once?  Jesus.
Being this repressed isn't good for society.


it's not the word we're afraid of but the crime of aggrevated assault that usually tends to follow
 
2013-06-20 09:51:39 PM  
Total witch hunt by liberal women who can't find success in the kitchen. I'm sure they'll biatch about how they have careers and don't have time to cook. Height of irony.
 
2013-06-20 09:52:55 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Jesus this is getting entirely out of proportion. She's an old fat woman who got famous for having a cooking show. She's not running for office or heading a major university. Who gives a fark what offensive words are in her vocabulary?

If we're going to ride people out on a rail for the dumb shiat they do, I think a little bit of casual bigotry is pretty farking far down the list.



Well, since it doesn't bother you, then lets just close the case. Look, you're the one who is overreacting. No one has firebombed her house or phoned in death threats. Shes a product that the network sells to us. The media is informing her customers that she may not appreciate their patronage as much as we previously believed because she's of the mind that some of us would look good as slaves. Meh, that's her opinion, so its cool. But I'd rather spend my time and money with a person who doesn't view me as inferior. That's just me. Its not a big deal. She doesn't fark with me, so I don't fark with her.  Nobody is losing sleep.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:52 PM  
Nope. As an older white person from the south (I actually lived in Albany, Georgia at the same time she was there, for a short while) I know the rules, and she is full of it. Respectable white folks in the south never say n*gg*r. Only poor white trash do that. You can hate blacks with a purple passion, but if you have any class at all, you never say the word. Just the same as you would never say any other swear word. And revealing that you did in public, under oath? Please. GTFO.

So I'm sorry Paula, regardless of how rich and famous you will ever become, you are simply NOKD. (not our kind, dear)
 
2013-06-20 09:57:28 PM  

mrlewish: Because the world is full of hypocrisy and double standards, get used to it.


This is what I get for not signposting my trolls better. People who "agree" with me for entirely the wrong reasons.

1/10,  semiotix.
 
2013-06-20 09:58:37 PM  

kortex: Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.



Do you mean that black people have been racist towards you specifically, or that black people are generally more racist than whites? Or both?
 
2013-06-20 09:58:38 PM  
Obamas Grandma made it ok to be racist. Every ignorant cop who acted stupidly knows that.
 
2013-06-20 10:04:00 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 10:05:10 PM  

PainInTheASP: shanrick: I read the headline:  Paula Deen's reps buttering up the ole and I prayed there would be no pictures.

Oh c'mon, it's Paula Deen! OF COURSE there's going to be pictures!

[img.fark.net image 514x308]


Someone with mad shoop skills should do this pic up in Blackface.
 
2013-06-20 10:07:23 PM  
In her defense, she was referring to Sandra Lee.
 
2013-06-20 10:09:54 PM  

Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"


You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.
 
2013-06-20 10:12:06 PM  

rewind2846: Mock26: MNguy: Mock26: 1986, which TMZ notes is the year Paula admitted to using the word after "a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head."

Sorry, but that is a justifiable excuse for the use of the n-word.

I guess, if you're looking for an excuse to use a word.

Wow do you have to be looking for an excuse to use the word?  Sometimes words come out when you are angry.

If the word isn't already part of your vocabulary, it can't just "come out" under any circumstances, now can it? It has to be "in there" in the first place.
/yes you're looking for an excuse to say a word you really want to say but know that it is socially unacceptable
//admit it


So what if it is part of your vocabulary?  It is possible to know the word and not apply it to all black people and only apply it to select individuals.
 
2013-06-20 10:19:42 PM  

kortex: Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.


I'm not sure I would trust your judgment, since a) she's not on trial for racism, and b) she's not on trial. She gave a deposition in a harassment suit.
 
2013-06-20 10:21:55 PM  
t3.gstatic.com
Speaking of old bigots, how's Prince Philip doing?
 
2013-06-20 10:23:26 PM  
Get it out of your system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBmrHPONt4

NSFW
 
2013-06-20 10:24:42 PM  

varmitydog: As an older white person from the south (I actually lived in Albany, Georgia at the same time she was there, for a short while) I know the rules, and she is full of it.


So if you were placed under oath, you would swear to God that you've never said the word, right?
 
2013-06-20 10:28:21 PM  

lohphat: Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"

You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.


I wasn't aware you had the power to tell me what should and should not offend me. Don't blame black people for the "double standard". Blame your grandfather and people like Paula for being bigots in the first place.
 
2013-06-20 10:32:16 PM  

Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.

Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people
 
2013-06-20 10:41:05 PM  

rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people


Sometimes, honesty is the best policy.
 
2013-06-20 10:45:50 PM  

djkutch: rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people

Sometimes, honesty is the best policy.


Yeah, but nothing beats having a good lawyer.
 
2013-06-20 10:46:06 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Shes a product that the network sells to us.


Nope, we're the product. The advertisers are the customers.
 
2013-06-20 10:50:20 PM  

dickfreckle: Seriously, how does this woman cook any better than some of our grandmothers? It might be tasty, but what she does isn't exactly the art of a real chef. I watched her show once (was a captive audience), and nothing she did was unique or intriguing. She's a great cook, and I'd gladly eat one of her meals after a long day, but a celebrity 'chef?'


sadly we have hit a point where many thinking "Cooking" is putting a freezer meal in a preheated oven and seasoning is a few drops of tabasco sause

it shocked the hell of my girlfriend that when i went to cook dinner after she moved in i would be in there for hours doing prep work

///she still looks at my shortening like it is some horror from beyond the vail
 
2013-06-20 10:51:07 PM  

I Browse: kortex: Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.


Do you mean that black people have been racist towards you specifically, or that black people are generally more racist than whites? Or both?


In my life. I can't say about anywhere else.
 
2013-06-20 10:51:31 PM  

Walter Paisley: Uzzah: PainInTheASP

[img.fark.net image 630x378]

I don't really know why. Just because.

Looks like fun. Let's go full Lovecraftian abomination!
[img.fark.net image 680x519]
[img.fark.net image 640x382]


Jesus H. Fark, make it stop!
 
2013-06-20 10:52:23 PM  

rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people


Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.
 
2013-06-20 10:54:02 PM  
Mock26:
So what if it is part of your vocabulary?  It is possible to know the word and not apply it to all black people and only apply it to select individuals.

You know there's a third option. I'll let you guess what that is.
 
2013-06-20 10:54:25 PM  
Who cares.  She's a farking cook on TV.  Maybe if she was an elected representative or someone who actually mattered it would be worth getting pissed off about.  Does the random douche down the street saying n*gger piss people off as well?  If so you need to calm the fark down.

Anyway, old people do get a bit of a pass.  My grandparents were racist, but they would use the word even in non-racist ways; it was just a word for them.  For example, the following:

img.fark.net

...was referred to as a 'n*gger tit'.  If you use the n-word to describe a delicious chocolatey morsel, I would hardly consider that racist.  If anything that's pro black titties.
 
2013-06-20 10:55:31 PM  
I don't know any 60-years olds who use the N-word; I have a southern grandmother (deceased) who used it all the time when I would visit her as a kid... didn't want me playing with 'those' kids. But she was born in the 19th Century, so it must be OK.
 
2013-06-20 10:55:50 PM  
Paula Deen's creepy laugh reminded me of something, but I didn't remember what until a few moments ago. She reminds me of two things from my youth: One of the creatures from the game Splatterhouse 3 and the sand worms from Dune. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for those all-nighters of watching sci-fi and horror films on VHS and playing Sega Genesis games while nodding on codeine and listening to Skinny Puppy through headphones.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 11:01:06 PM  
Bumblefark:
Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.

Why do people always forget that there is a third option besides being either an honest asshole or a closeted bigot?
 
2013-06-20 11:01:35 PM  

rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people


I think it's from the same school of thought that makes people think all opinions are worthy and should be respected.
 
2013-06-20 11:02:41 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: lohphat: Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"

You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.

I wasn't aware you had the power to tell me what should and should not offend me. Don't blame black people for the "double standard". Blame your grandfather and people like Paula for being bigots in the first place.


I'm not responsible for what offends you. You are.

My grandfather was Chinese and a victim of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

We got over it.
 
2013-06-20 11:07:43 PM  

YouAreIncorrect: Who cares.  She's a farking cook on TV.  Maybe if she was an elected representative or someone who actually mattered it would be worth getting pissed off about.  Does the random douche down the street saying n*gger piss people off as well?  If so you need to calm the fark down.

Anyway, old people do get a bit of a pass.  My grandparents were racist, but they would use the word even in non-racist ways; it was just a word for them.  For example, the following:

[img.fark.net image 180x207]

...was referred to as a 'n*gger tit'.  If you use the n-word to describe a delicious chocolatey morsel, I would hardly consider that racist.  If anything that's pro black titties.


well there is nothing like sucking on some black titties
 
2013-06-20 11:10:26 PM  
This was actually almost an intelligent thread for Fark. Except for nigs in a blanket guy. What a farktard.
 
2013-06-20 11:12:39 PM  
smh
What a bunch of losers.
 
2013-06-20 11:12:44 PM  

rewind2846: Bumblefark:
Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.

Why do people always forget that there is a third option besides being either an honest asshole or a closeted bigot?


Well...maybe because I was responding to a question about some hypothetical bigot, and whether being openly bigoted somehow makes them less of an asshole?

/But, if you really want to press the point, I'd be interested to know where you've found a human being entirely free of bigotry. The various academies of the human sciences would probably like to collect such a specimen.
 
2013-06-20 11:18:56 PM  
the poor ol' grandma defense.

Our grandma would occasionally haul out a racial slur, all the more shocking because she was otherwise very prim and proper. It really affected our impressions of her.
 
2013-06-20 11:19:05 PM  
Sooooooo her story is the bank robber forced her to say it by holding a gun to her head.  I'm just paraphrasing here but I can't get that image out of my head ...

Robber: "Say it, say it!"
Paula Deen: "No, it's too horrible and it will go on my permanent record that I am a racist."
 
2013-06-20 11:20:12 PM  
Oh no, someone on the internet was offended by something someone said 30 years ago!  Is it time for speech control yet?
 
2013-06-20 11:23:39 PM  

lohphat: DROxINxTHExWIND: lohphat: Arkanaut: She could just quote Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate n@ggers!"

You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another. It's then no longer vulgar.

I wasn't aware you had the power to tell me what should and should not offend me. Don't blame black people for the "double standard". Blame your grandfather and people like Paula for being bigots in the first place.

I'm not responsible for what offends you. You are.

My grandfather was Chinese and a victim of the Chinese Exclusion Act.

We got over it.


Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.
 
2013-06-20 11:26:30 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Well, it's hard to refute that, because it seems most old white people ARE farking racist. In the U.S., anyway.

 One of the topics of the recent Bilderberg meetings was whether or not to allow racism to spread outside of white people in the US, but I believe it was decided against.
My theory is that they're planning to release it the next time there's a major world conflict.


UH-oh, better get the message out to the asians.

/just because us English speakers don't know what mi dang means...
 
2013-06-20 11:28:25 PM  
No, sorry, Paula, that's not acceptable. My aged grandmother was born 97 years ago when the South was REALLY segregated, AND she was not only white but also wealthy and the daughter of the town's potentate; and while she still uses the condescending term "colored people" she has NEVER used the term "n*gger."

But since she disobeyed orders in 1959 and allowed her "colored" students to pass her English class, even though she'd been instructed not to give them any special treatment, (in other words, let them fail) I've always assumed her racism was, as they say, no more than skin deep. Unlike yours, Paula.
 
2013-06-20 11:28:52 PM  

Babwa Wawa: What person could claim under oath never to have said that word?

I mean, sh*t people.  Come on...


Every time I try to say it what actually comes out is "attractive and successful African American".

It's really weird.
 
2013-06-20 11:31:36 PM  
Bumblefark:
/But, if you really want to press the point, I'd be interested to know where you've found a human being entirely free of bigotry. The various academies of the human sciences would probably like to collect such a specimen.

Every human being who lives around other human being has some form of bigotry, whether it's against foodies or catholics or people who ride fixies. My point is that it's up to you as to how much you let bigotry infest your psyche, to the point where under any sort of stress racial epithets come flying out of your face.

If the word n***er isn't a regular part of your thought processes, the chances of it being released at any time are minimal. It's like this: I'm not British, so the phrase "bloody hell" isn't part of my normal speech, and it wouldn't say it, even under stress. For someone from the east end of London though, that phrase might be first on their lips.

In essence, you alone choose your level of bigotry, and toward whom. That is the third option.
 
2013-06-20 11:32:19 PM  

Bumblefark: rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people

Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.


As a southerner, I agree to this. Better than pretending you are enlightened but somehow you can count the number of black people that have been in your house, and make great pains to mention the "black friend" that your child hangs out with, as part of some group activity
 
2013-06-20 11:32:50 PM  

kortex: Stupid sensationalist trial.  Racism isn't a crime.  Black people, in my life, have always been more racist than white people.  It's just OK for them to be.  Way to go, America.


Are you that guy that says things like, "I don't know why but black people never seem to like me."  if so, the problem may be you.
 
2013-06-20 11:35:52 PM  

Greylight: Sooooooo her story is the bank robber forced her to say it by holding a gun to her head.  I'm just paraphrasing here but I can't get that image out of my head ...

Robber: "Say it, say it!"
Paula Deen: "No, it's too horrible and it will go on my permanent record that I am a racist."


I hope it went very similar to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYYBJ8XRdh4
 
2013-06-20 11:36:59 PM  
Babwa Wawa: So if you were placed under oath, you would swear to God that you've never said the word, right?

Damn straight. My company was once sued for discrimination by a deadbeat black worker by the black agenda assh*les out of Tallahassee, and won. A key point in my favor was that nobody ever heard me say the "n" word. It's not what ultimately decided the case (some fellow rural black friends speaking for me did that) but to have every witness asked if they'd ever heard me say it and have them say no didn't hurt any, either.
/In the south, being raised right used to protect you.
 
2013-06-20 11:43:53 PM  

varmitydog: Nope. As an older white person from the south (I actually lived in Albany, Georgia at the same time she was there, for a short while) I know the rules, and she is full of it. Respectable white folks in the south never say n*gg*r. Only poor white trash do that. You can hate blacks with a purple passion, but if you have any class at all, you never say the word. Just the same as you would never say any other swear word. And revealing that you did in public, under oath? Please. GTFO.

So I'm sorry Paula, regardless of how rich and famous you will ever become, you are simply NOKD. (not our kind, dear)


I'm calling BS.  What you say may be true today, but as late as 1968 (and maybe even into the late '70s) Respectable white folk (or white folk of any class) in the South would have found that word entering their conversations on a regular basis.  It's just how things were.  Most cleaned up their act after their schools and workplaces became integrated, but those who were too old to care were just too old to care.  Even Happy Chandler, the man who integrated baseball, regularly said the word in public in the late '80s.
 
2013-06-20 11:43:53 PM  

rewind2846: Mock26:
So what if it is part of your vocabulary?  It is possible to know the word and not apply it to all black people and only apply it to select individuals.

You know there's a third option. I'll let you guess what that is.


I never said that the third option did not exist.  I was merely pointing out that that is not the only option.  If a man calls a woman the c-word does that mean that he is a sexist who hates women?  Of course not.  Similarly, if a white person calls a black person the n-word that does not mean that he is a racist who hates black people.  It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.
 
2013-06-20 11:47:15 PM  

rewind2846:
Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.


You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.
 
2013-06-20 11:55:45 PM  
Perhaps leading by example and not using the word within "the community" to set an example might go further instead of trying to catch people in superficial word traps while the popular media features countless people using the word freely.

If you want to treated with respect, how about showing some self-respect?
 
2013-06-21 12:02:09 AM  
Mock26:It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.

Then I ask the question again: why can't the white person simply call the black person he is angry at an asshole? Jerkoff? Moron? Dickhead? Sh*t for brains? Why use n****r?
 
2013-06-21 12:02:35 AM  

the money is in the banana stand: Yet I can turn on BET and watch rampant racism that is acceptable. Makes sense.


If you think Bill Cosby can get away with doing a Jeff Foxworthy routine, then you have a point.
 
2013-06-21 12:03:36 AM  

Wall_of_Doodoo: Do racist remarks hurt or help with her fan base? I was under the impression the the average Paula Dean fan probably used the N word pretty often themselves when talking about the colored folkes. (not Oprah of course, she's one of the good ones. So articulate.)


Where do you get that idea?
 
2013-06-21 12:06:57 AM  

rewind2846: Mock26:It is in fact possible that he only hates that one person.

Then I ask the question again: why can't the white person simply call the black person he is angry at an asshole? Jerkoff? Moron? Dickhead? Sh*t for brains? Why use n****r?


Different levels of anger call for different words.
 
2013-06-21 12:10:50 AM  

rewind2846: In essence, you alone choose your level of bigotry, and toward whom. That is the third option.


Fair enough. I'm just not sure that's empirically true. I mean, most of the research I've seen seems to suggest that bigotry is a pretty insidious (and mostly unconscious) aspect of human psychology. Universally so. And what resides in the subconscious is pretty much by definition outside of our conscious control.

I certainly get your point that the person who also consciously practices bigoted thoughts, by putting them into their everyday language habits, are abnormally preoccupied with their bigotries. I don't disagree with that, and my point wasn't, "let's all embrace our moral failings!"

My point was simply to suggest that covert bigotry is probably the bigger social problem than the idiot who openly wears their moral failings on their sleeve. Those people are easy to spot and ridicule. My worries are for the "cultured" bigot, who is practiced enough in self-deception to have convinced themselves (and those around them) that they aren't bigoted at all.

Fano: As a southerner, I agree to this. Better than pretending you are enlightened but somehow you can count the number of black people that have been in your house, and make great pains to mention the "black friend" that your child hangs out with, as part of some group activity


...and, yup: I've spent a fair amount of time in the South, myself. That's clearly colored my view of things.

/Heh..."colored."
 
2013-06-21 12:11:53 AM  

rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people


If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.
 
2013-06-21 12:12:16 AM  
Cataholic: I'm calling BS. What you say may be true today, but as late as 1968 (and maybe even into the late '70s) Respectable white folk (or white folk of any class) in the South would have found that word entering their conversations on a regular basis. It's just how things were. Most cleaned up their act after their schools and workplaces became integrated, but those who were too old to care were just too old to care. Even Happy Chandler, the man who integrated baseball, regularly said the word in public in the late '80s.

I'm 56, so my time frame would be from around 61 to when things changed in the late 70's. During that time the "n" word was very much a swear word, and in those times swearing in public was very much frowned upon and not tolerated like it is today. Remember Carlin's magic words? Add the "n" word to it.
Of course there were always people who swore and used not only n*gg*r but also all the other colorful expressions for them: jig-a-boo, spade, darkie, burrhead, junglebunny, spearchucker, spook, missionary eater, etc., that have all but disappeared. But it might have been different for different areas of the south, for in north Alabama and on the Gulf Coast we always referred to the blacks as "colored folks", and some of the older folks (70's and up) still do, but some farker from South Carolina informed me that nobody has used that term in forty years over there. But using the n word where I grew up would get you a taste of soap for swearing. Which nowadays is child abuse.
 
2013-06-21 12:13:52 AM  
lohphat:
You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.


You might want to look a little closer at that "culture" prase, before it gets you into trouble. Just as not all (or even most) asian aren't computer geniuses, blanket statements like the ones you made usually result from too much FoxNews and other right-wing information sources. And let's not even go into the Asian Tongs, which have lasted for many generations in this country, along with the current rash of asian "gangstaz", okay?

I can also call a word anything I choose. You don't get to determine that for me, so get it through your thick head. You don't have that power, and you never will. Tough sh*t.

Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.
 
2013-06-21 12:14:46 AM  
Wait, we're judging people by what they did and said 30 years ago?  'Cause 30 years I go I was still shiatting myself and sucking nipples.  I probably even bathed nude with my parents.  I must have been such a deviant!  30 years is a long time.  A long, long time. People can change over a few years, much less 30.  I don't care if she was in the KKK 30 years ago so long as she doesn't bring racism to her personality and products today.
 
2013-06-21 12:17:22 AM  

Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.


Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.
 
2013-06-21 12:22:27 AM  
Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?
 
2013-06-21 12:23:18 AM  

lohphat: rewind2846:
Being treated by white people as "model minorities" instead of "born suspects" kinda helps in the "getting over it" thing, even though that's racist as well. And the exclusion act pertained to a people who chose to come here to work, make new lives for themselves and seek their fortune in a foreign country, and deal with the resultant racism they encountered. Not quite the same as being dragged here on boats against their will and made to work for free.

DROxINxTHExWIND may be offended because that word is still used in a derogatory manner today, in 2013, toward people of African ancestry. I'm sure you know the history of the word, and how it was and is used, so I won't go into that. Just realize that you don't get to tell him or anyone else what they should be offended by, as they don't have the right to tell you.

You can't call a word vulgar and then pepper your daily language with it. Then call foul when someone calls you out for the hypocrisy.

I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny. Perhaps a look in the mirror might shed a light on root causes.


I'd love to know who the fark asked for your pity? Or why I need introspection because some old white lady is a bigot. Kinda telling that in a thread where there should only be one bad guy you've made it a discussion about how bad black people are. Eat a bowl.
 
2013-06-21 12:26:09 AM  

rewind2846: Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?


1993 was when gangsta rap hit maximum cultural saturation. I could see how someone in 1993 might use the n-word.
 
2013-06-21 12:29:51 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy:

1993 was when gangsta rap hit maximum cultural saturation. I could see how someone in 1993 might use the n-word.

You're not suggesting that this poster child for THE DIABEETUS was actually "M.C.P.D., gangsta rap star, two turntables and a stick of butter", are you? Cause that would be really stupid.
 
2013-06-21 12:46:49 AM  

rewind2846: Name_Omitted:
If you are honest about what you said two decades ago, and honest that you have not said it in two decades since you now know better, then yeah, perhaps a little slack.

Two decades ago was 1993. Are you suggesting that she didn't know any better in 1993? What was she, sealed in an air raid shelter since the mid 60's?


No, she was living in the south (Savannah, Georgia to be exact), working as a bank teller.

Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago.  The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Hell, 20 years ago my grandmother used it in everyday conversation.  She was in her 60's, and she used every epithet and slur you'd ever heard of, I don't think she even knew non-offensive names for non-whites (the most polite term she had was "colored" and she refused to use anti-Semitic terms on the religious grounds that since she believed that Jews were the chosen people, it was insulting to God to use insulting names for them)

As a little kid, I learned some very interesting words and expressions from her. . .until my mother caught me using them and quickly put a stop to that.
 
2013-06-21 12:49:04 AM  
Everybody is racist. Who cares?
 
2013-06-21 01:17:04 AM  

Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.


Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.
 
2013-06-21 01:34:15 AM  

rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.


Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

I guess you've never once in your life ever said anything you'd regret, even if it was decades prior?  Not a single racial slur, not a single sexist comment, not a single homophobic joke, not a single Islamophobic or anti-Semitic remark?

She probably would have called him an asshole, or a farker or something.  Yeah, there is an excuse, people aren't perfect, and somebody saying a word doesn't instantly make them a bad person.

So yeah, it's a fine excuse: people aren't perfect, and one racial slur said in a emotionally charged incident 20 years ago is perfectly forgivable to any reasonable person.
 
2013-06-21 01:55:06 AM  

rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.


What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.
 
2013-06-21 01:56:43 AM  
So she uttered a racial slur in the privacy of her own home and has to apologize for that? My lord.
 
2013-06-21 02:01:20 AM  
Silverstaff:

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

Nothing to do with being "politically correct", which I believe is code for "I can't be an asshole anymore"... it has to do with where your head was at, what kind of person you choose to be.

Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

You're trying to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. I might be willing to give her, and you, a pass if this were 1963 when she said it... but it was supposed to be in the early 90's. There is no excuse. Why she may not have used the same term as she might have had a white man had her at gunpoint gives one some insight as to what kind of person she really is, and not the facade she puts on for her television audience. That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.
 
2013-06-21 02:05:20 AM  

rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.


Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".
 
2013-06-21 02:10:12 AM  
Fano:
What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.


No, it is you who needs to fire up a few brain cells. Let me explain it to you, and I'll type slowly.

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. What word would Deen have used to describe the gunman had that person been white? As in "this asshole is robbing the bank!" Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. Simple.

now~

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. Why didn't Deen use the same word to describe the black gunman? Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. What makes him so different that he requires a whole new description?

There. Get back to me when you've thought that puzzle through.
 
2013-06-21 02:12:11 AM  

lohphat: rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.

Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".


Neither do I, which is why I didn't/don't use that phrase. Telling that you did, isn't it?
 
2013-06-21 02:15:38 AM  

rewind2846: Silverstaff:

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

Nothing to do with being "politically correct", which I believe is code for "I can't be an asshole anymore"... it has to do with where your head was at, what kind of person you choose to be.

Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

You're trying to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. I might be willing to give her, and you, a pass if this were 1963 when she said it... but it was supposed to be in the early 90's. There is no excuse. Why she may not have used the same term as she might have had a white man had her at gunpoint gives one some insight as to what kind of person she really is, and not the facade she puts on for her television audience. That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.


You seem determined to misunderstand what people are saying, either because you don't want to understand or because you're trolling or something.  There are two points being made, and only one of them is that she was in an emotionally charged situation.  The other point, which is added to the first, is that she is white trash from the south and was probably exposed to that word in terrible contexts much more frequently than someone from a different background.  And it's not okay, of course it isn't, but the point people are making is that the rush to judge someone's entire character based on that event is small minded.  And misses many of the nuances of how humans interact, and change over time, and learn new things, and grow.  And repeated attempts to ignore those things makes it difficult for progress to be made.  The idea is we want to be better than that, don't we?
 
2013-06-21 02:18:24 AM  

TerminalEchoes: So she uttered a racial slur in the privacy of her own home and has to apologize for that? My lord.


I'm not asking that she apologize for it, because I don't know her nor was it directed at me. The point is that now there are some cockroaches in her kitchen that have been exposed to the light, and that homespun southern matron bullsh*t act, sales pitch and image she has so lovingly crafted is showing noticeable wear and tear. It was also germane to the particulars of the case she was giving the deposition for.

Never bought her stuff, don't give a sh*t. I simply dislike phonies and liars, especially racist ones.
 
2013-06-21 02:18:39 AM  
Wow really? removing long standing meme images for being racist? I guess fark has joined the downcline of today's media standards where no one has a sense of humor anymore. That is ok we can just do personal attacks and call her fat, and that is all ok. But make fun of what she said is racist.
 
2013-06-21 02:24:38 AM  

rewind2846: lohphat: rewind2846: Most black people's "culture" is amazingly similar to the one you profess to be a part of. Why not ask one and they will tell you.
Oh, and quite a few of us can spell "misogyny" as well, even though we don't practice it.

Wrong. I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".

Neither do I, which is why I didn't/don't use that phrase. Telling that you did, isn't it?


You, unfortunately are not representative. You know this. Time and time again we hear the testimonials of people trying to escape that "culture" because education is eschewed and dysfunction embraced.

The "white man" is not your problem. The black on black violence stats stand on their own.
 
2013-06-21 02:26:14 AM  

rewind2846: Fano:
What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Try again, Phoenix Wright.

No, it is you who needs to fire up a few brain cells. Let me explain it to you, and I'll type slowly.

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. What word would Deen have used to describe the gunman had that person been white? As in "this asshole is robbing the bank!" Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. Simple.

now~

Imagine the bank holdup is going on. Why didn't Deen use the same word to describe the black gunman? Here is a guy... with a gun... robbing the bank. What makes him so different that he requires a whole new description?

There. Get back to me when you've thought that puzzle through.


You can conduct that tune for your Aspieland Band, but let's scratch the needle for a second. If a black woman was being held at gunpoint... by a white guy... with a gun, you would not give her the least bit of forgiveness for uttering the words "ofay, honky, or cracker" in describing the person that did so?

It's not ok to use racial slurs, and she is certainly not off the hook for the other offensive shiat she has said. But this is where you are pushing the LEAST persuasive part of your argument.

Let's requote you:"Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

Why golly, neither of these situations seem in the same level of duress as the others. To be fairer in the first count might be a Vietnam P.O.W. and in the second a man who just went through a nasty divorce.

The world is messy. And people use words of power when they feel powerless.
 
2013-06-21 02:30:35 AM  

ShangriLlama: The idea is we want to be better than that, don't we?


That would be an admirable goal, if it were true.I grew up in the south (NC) in the 1960's and 70's and still have many relatives there, so I got to experience that "southern hospitality" up close and personal. It's hidden, even today, but it's not gone. Yes there is some on the north too, it doesn't stay on only one side of the Mason-Dixon.

It's during times of stress that who a person really is comes out, be they a hero, a coward, selfish, vain, or whatever. That's when one gets to see what a person really is. It's the reason why some soldiers earn the medal of honor, and others in the same situation do not.

As for her entire character... I don't know her. However, when I hear or know that such words have come from that person, I know to stay clear of them in future, and that they are not persons I wish to be associated with. Your background, even if it's "white trash" is not changeable... what you do with it is, and I think she is old enough to have moved past that background by the early 90's.

And I still haven't seen an answer to my question.
/off to bed
 
2013-06-21 02:39:04 AM  
I've used that word more recently than 1986, and it was perfectly apt for the person and his behavior that I was describing.  It's inappropriate as a generality or gratuitous insult.
 
2013-06-21 02:39:04 AM  

rewind2846: That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.


That you are making mountains out of molehills gives me some insight into this whole stupidity of this politically correct mess gives me plenty of insight into the petty, pedantic overly-politically-correct person you are.  It's a pretty petty thing that somebody said that once two decades ago.

Is what she said a good thing?  No.  However, it's so petty and insignificant that it's not worth the scandal.  It's minor at best.  I knew kids in Junior High back around the early '90's that used that word every day, because their parents did.

Fano: What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?


Nope, I never said any such thing.  She used the "n word" to describe a "black" person, a "colored" person, an "Afro American", an "African-American", a "Person of Color", a "negro".  Why?  Because when she was little it was a common term with at least some derogatory intent, and if somebody had just been robbed at gunpoint by a person to which that common term applied, I wouldn't hold it against them if they said it in anger.  Where the hell did you think I said anything different.

Really, you're getting this farking worked up because in 1993 a 46 year old mother of two, working as a bank teller in Savannah, used the "n word" after she had a gun put to her head during a robbery?  According to the exact court testimony, she says she used the word in private, talking with her husband, that night, discussing what happened.   This bank teller just happened to start a catering business a few years later, which grew into a popular restaurant, which turned into her getting a cookbook and TV show deal. . .and then twenty years later when somebody wants to try to paint her as a bigoted racist or something, the biggest thing they can come up with is her admitted "n word" remark in '93?

So she's not always been a perfect model of racial tolerance and political correctness to the standards of 2013.  Who gives a flying fark?  That was 20 years ago, in Savannah, being said .  It's not like she said it on The View last week or casually threw it out on Food Network last month or printed it in one of her cookbooks.
 
2013-06-21 02:45:23 AM  

Silverstaff: rewind2846: That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.

That you are making mountains out of molehills gives me some insight into this whole stupidity of this politically correct mess gives me plenty of insight into the petty, pedantic overly-politically-correct person you are.  It's a pretty petty thing that somebody said that once two decades ago.

Is what she said a good thing?  No.  However, it's so petty and insignificant that it's not worth the scandal.  It's minor at best.  I knew kids in Junior High back around the early '90's that used that word every day, because their parents did.

Fano: What are you, hard of thinking? You are pinning your checkmate to the idea that she might equally have used the n-word to describe an asian, an australian aborigine, or a caucasian?

Nope, I never said any such thing.  She used the "n word" to describe a "black" person, a "colored" person, an "Afro American", an "African-American", a "Person of Color", a "negro".  Why?  Because when she was little it was a common term with at least some derogatory intent, and if somebody had just been robbed at gunpoint by a person to which that common term applied, I wouldn't hold it against them if they said it in anger.  Where the hell did you think I said anything different.

Really, you're getting this farking worked up because in 1993 a 46 year old mother of two, working as a bank teller in Savannah, used the "n word" after she had a gun put to her head during a robbery?  According to the exact court testimony, she says she used the word in private, talking with her husband, that night, discussing what happened.   This bank teller just happened to start a catering business a few years later, which grew into a popular restaurant, which turned into her getting a cookbook and TV show deal. . .and then twenty years later when somebody wants to try to paint her as a bigot ...


uh, I think you crossed the streams. That was where I was questioning rewind on being deliberately obtuse.
 
2013-06-21 02:46:17 AM  

Fano: The world is messy. And people use words of power when they feel powerless.


And if you think that calling someone a racial slur because you "feel powerless" is okay, then that is what's wrong with you.

If a black woman was being held at gunpoint... by a white guy... with a gun, you would not give her the least bit of forgiveness for uttering the words "ofay, honky, or cracker" in describing the person that did so?

Now how often have you actually heard black people use those phrases, or have you watched a few too many blaxploitation movies? I grew up in the 60's and 70's when they were much more in vogue, and seem to remember very little use, at least around me.
See, what you don't seem to understand is that racial slurs, at least in my experience, are not usually the first thing to come to mind - that is, unless you were raised that way.

lohphat: The "white man" is not your problem. The black on black violence stats stand on their own.


Never met an asian skinhead before. Is there an asian stormfront, because what you just wrote sounds very much like what the white version says on their website. How do you get into the meetings?
And those "stats"... if you were smart enough (and I doubt it) to correct for education, unemployment and underemployment, rates of poverty and family income and so on, you might see a remarkable similarity to the "violence" that other ethnic groups exhibit. White trash does just as much violence to itself, as evidenced by the posts on FARK.

But I guess that's too much to ask from someone who is so doggedly determined to somehow prove their own superiority to others without realizing that when the sh*t hits the fan your yellow ass and my black ass and his brown ass and her red ass will be in the same boat.

/off to get my beauty rest
//ta
 
2013-06-21 02:48:23 AM  

rewind2846: Never met an asian skinhead before. Is there an asian stormfront, because what you just wrote sounds very much like what the white version says on their website. How do you get into the meetings?


You seem to be taking your debate style classes from the GOP yourself.

Can't refute the data so ad hominem.

/buh bye
 
2013-06-21 02:49:19 AM  

Fano: uh, I think you crossed the streams. That was where I was questioning rewind on being deliberately obtuse.


Sorry about that.  I thought rewinds overly-PC "if you've ever used a slur ever in your life it's unacceptable" derp was contagious or something.
 
2013-06-21 02:59:46 AM  

Silverstaff: Fano: uh, I think you crossed the streams. That was where I was questioning rewind on being deliberately obtuse.

Sorry about that.  I thought rewinds overly-PC "if you've ever used a slur ever in your life it's unacceptable" derp was contagious or something.


No problem. The not so subtle threat that also anyone that can understand why a person might use such ugly words is also a contemptible racist was what pushed me to answer more forcefully.

Furthermore, 99/100 when I see someone in a thread repeatedly saying "no one has answered my question," the means no one has given the proper response that the op wants to tee off on with what they consider the perfect diatribe. I learned this mostly in the evolution threads.
 
2013-06-21 02:59:52 AM  
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2013-06-21 03:16:00 AM  

lohphat: [img.fark.net image 225x425]


So asians and mexicans never kill any white or black victims?

/ your graph appears to be of the made up internet BS kind, judging from the fact that the numbers add up to 100 and exclude all other races as potential aggressors.
 
2013-06-21 03:19:05 AM  
So all of the sudden a rich white girl has the hots for the song:  "Rich nubians in Paris" and everybody has their underwear in a bunch.

At least her butt is not anywhere near as big and ugly as Beyoncé's.
 
2013-06-21 03:30:19 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: She was asked under oath if she'd ever used the word N--ger.  Come on, who hasn't used that word in a sentence at least once?  Jesus.
Being this repressed isn't good for society.


I can honestly say I never have.

And nor have I ever wanted to.

I sure as hell didn't grow up in a multi racial utopia (SE Michigan, so lots of issues with black/white relations for sure) - but still.   That apparently Paula didn't see what was wrong with having an ideal situation of nicely identically dressed black people serving her and her guests (much worse than dropping the n word IMHO)... blows my mind.
 
2013-06-21 03:32:17 AM  

lohphat: rewind2846: Never met an asian skinhead before. Is there an asian stormfront, because what you just wrote sounds very much like what the white version says on their website. How do you get into the meetings?

You seem to be taking your debate style classes from the GOP yourself.

Can't refute the data so ad hominem.

/buh bye


"Data" without context is bullsh*t. Of course you would know this if you had actually, you know, taken some debate classes. Your professor would have evicted you from the class the first day.

I sound fat: lohphat: [img.fark.net image 225x425]

So asians and mexicans never kill any white or black victims?

/ your graph appears to be of the made up internet BS kind, judging from the fact that the numbers add up to 100 and exclude all other races as potential aggressors.


And this. No one ever kills anyone else, just black people and white people. As I said, bullsh*t.

Silverstaff:
Sorry about that.  I thought rewinds overly-PC "if you've ever used a slur ever in your life it's unacceptable" derp was contagious or something.

What it does is tell me what kind of person you are. Some people go through stress after stress without using such language, and some people don't. BTW, it would help your case if you let go of that phrase "politically correct", because we all know what it really means, and is usually used by butthurt white males who get caught saying dumb sh*t they know they shouldn't, and who can't deal with the fact that the world and society is changing and their prehistoric attitudes are no longer accepted.

"Women don't accept being called b*tches and c*nts any more, black people get upset when you call them n****rs, spades, jigaboos or porch monkeys, asians get incensed after they're called slopes or gooks or chinks, even mentally and physically handicapped people get pissed when they're called retards and cripples! What's this world coming to? Why are they getting all upset? Dammit back in my day..."

/and so it goes
 
2013-06-21 03:32:36 AM  

rewind2846: See, what you don't seem to understand is that racial slurs, at least in my experience, are not usually the first thing to come to mind - that is, unless you were raised that way.


image1.frequency.com

/bears repeating
 
2013-06-21 03:45:10 AM  

rewind2846: Silverstaff:

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

Nothing to do with being "politically correct", which I believe is code for "I can't be an asshole anymore"... it has to do with where your head was at, what kind of person you choose to be.

Some asshole asian driver cuts me off on the freeway, the word "gook" isn't what comes into my head, but the word "asshole" does. Some woman pushes ahead of me in line, "c*nt" is not what first comes out of my mouth. No one is perfect, but you make the choice.

You're trying to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. I might be willing to give her, and you, a pass if this were 1963 when she said it... but it was supposed to be in the early 90's. There is no excuse. Why she may not have used the same term as she might have had a white man had her at gunpoint gives one some insight as to what kind of person she really is, and not the facade she puts on for her television audience. That you are defending such stupidity gives some insight into what kind of person you are.

And you still didn't answer my question, which is even more telling.


That's probably the best down&dirty explanation of who is and is not a racist I've ever come across. Everyone has an automatic epithet when they encounter stupidity in life. Nevermind that the asshole driver cut you off because they weren't paying attention. If your automatic response is to vilify that person based upon a racial stereotype--then you are racist. If it is to vilify that person based on a sexist stereotype--then you are sexist.

[ponders]

I like it.
 
2013-06-21 04:31:07 AM  
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-21 05:14:23 AM  

rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.


Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.
 
2013-06-21 06:04:06 AM  

Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.


Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.
 
2013-06-21 06:05:59 AM  
Better an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

/FTFM
//I hate typos
 
2013-06-21 06:48:04 AM  
Can't we just go full-Soviet, make racism and the n-word a crime, then start putting people on trial for even the slightest suspicion of racism?
 
2013-06-21 06:54:13 AM  

theBigBigEye: Can't we just go full-Soviet, make racism and the n-word a crime, then start putting people on trial for even the slightest suspicion of racism?


I wouldn't recommend that. Being a racist shouldn't be a criminal activity. It's a sickness, a disease of the mind passed from parent to child. It will only disappear with education and time. Criminalizing it would only drive it further underground, like child molesters.

Besides, I'm glad when the racists say something stupid... makes them easier to find and ostracize.
 
2013-06-21 06:55:16 AM  

varmitydog: Babwa Wawa: So if you were placed under oath, you would swear to God that you've never said the word, right?

Damn straight. My company was once sued for discrimination by a deadbeat black worker by the black agenda assh*les out of Tallahassee, and won. A key point in my favor was that nobody ever heard me say the "n" word. It's not what ultimately decided the case (some fellow rural black friends speaking for me did that) but to have every witness asked if they'd ever heard me say it and have them say no didn't hurt any, either.
/In the south, being raised right used to protect you.


The question was not, "varmitydog, has anyone ever heard you use the word 'n&gger'?"


The question was "have you ever said n&gger?"

If the word has ever passed your lips. Regardless of context.

It's an irrelevant question to determine whether someone's a racist.
 
2013-06-21 07:04:29 AM  

rewind2846: Better an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

/FTFM
//I hate typos


i found your store

chubstr.com
 
2013-06-21 07:39:01 AM  

rewind2846: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.

Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.


Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.
 
2013-06-21 07:53:40 AM  

Mock26:
Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.

So people who say "now don't be a racist asshole toward other people" are the bad guys now?
What I think is "how would I like to be treated by other people?" and just run with that idea. Works like a charm.
Dude... you are one seriously twisted psyche.
Besides, that tshirt should be free.


Jon iz teh kewl: rewind2846: Better an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

i found your store


Nah, they sell old people clothes.
 
2013-06-21 08:12:08 AM  
Is being racist againt the law or something? Every time i see the word "racist" in a headline, my thoughts are "who cares"..
 
2013-06-21 08:51:17 AM  
What's the big deal?

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 09:03:21 AM  
I love stories like these. Keep helping to make the word "racism" utterly void of any tangible meaning.
 
2013-06-21 09:04:46 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 09:07:28 AM  

Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.

Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.


Just ignore that douche.  Much like Drox, they are the racist one.  I did get to add them to the ignore list and suggest ya do the same.
 
2013-06-21 09:12:30 AM  
I don't see what the big deal is, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who could swear under oath that they never said that word.
 
2013-06-21 09:21:09 AM  

kimmygibblershomework: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.

Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.

Just ignore that douche.  Much like Drox, they are the racist one.  I did get to add them to the ignore list and suggest ya do the same.


You shouldn't ignore Drox I have him favorites with the tag "read his posts in an Uncle Remus voice" it makes him humorous. He is nothing but a low rent wanna be Louis Farrakhan (sp?) Filled with impotent rage. Even if you try to have discussion to understand his side he will just put up his little black panther fist and tell you "I don't need your white man understanding. Now go away my mama's making me lunch."
 
2013-06-21 09:50:27 AM  
called it
 
2013-06-21 09:51:51 AM  

rewind2846: Better an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

/FTFM
//I hate typos


You could have just called it another Paula Deen pun.
 
2013-06-21 10:28:27 AM  
Let me know when black people are banned from saying the word "cracker".

/Freedom of speech does not exist if any words are banned
 
2013-06-21 10:34:31 AM  

I sound fat: lohphat: [img.fark.net image 225x425]

So asians and mexicans never kill any white or black victims?

/ your graph appears to be of the made up internet BS kind, judging from the fact that the numbers add up to 100 and exclude all other races as potential aggressors.


Would stats from the FBI's website make you happy or are you still going to deny the data supporting the premise that black on black crime is where the "oppression" is coming from?

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 10:51:07 AM  
Since when does using the N-word automatically make a person a racist? If we define racism that broadly, then we could all be considered racist, and the word loses all meaning.
 
2013-06-21 11:33:06 AM  
At first I was all glad that the usual racist Farkers were conspicuously absent from this thread. Then i saw this:

lohphat:
You can't be black and incensed if you accept the word in everyday speech referring to one another.

"Black People Say it. Why can't I?"

lohphat: My grandfather was Chinese


"I have minorities in my family"

So then I was still pretty happy that at least the proud, angry, ignorant Sormfront racists were no-shows, and all we had were some clueless racists. Then I saw this:

lohphat: I have little pity for a culture that can't pull its pants up, abhors education, and embraces mysogeny


"Black people are sloppy, ignorant misogynists [sic]... "

lohphat: If you want to treated with respect, how about showing some self-respect?


" ...with no self respect... "

lohphat: I don't consider getting a HS education and speaking like an adult "acting white".


"... and are not only proud of their ignorance, but also acknowledge that white people are less ignorant"

Wow. I mean... wow.

lohphat: You, unfortunately are not representative. You know this


He's one of the good ones, amirite?
 
2013-06-21 11:35:28 AM  

Amusement: There's a time and place for even "Lootie" to show up.  This is one of those times cause I don't care about Paula Dean calorie excessive fat infused personal life.

[i379.photobucket.com image 350x450]


+1 interwebz
i don't care if i'm late
 
2013-06-21 11:39:55 AM  

Bullseyed: Let me know when black people are banned from saying the word "cracker".


/Freedom of speech does not exist if any words are banned

What are you going on about? What word has been "banned"?
 
2013-06-21 11:42:33 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: At first I was all glad that the usual racist Farkers were conspicuously absent from this thread. Then i saw this:

[selective overgeneralizations and misquotes]


That was a lot of effort to avoid the premise that is shared by many that the self-destructive behaviors in the "black commuity" need to be acknowledged and addressed. The inter-generational dysfunction of fatherless households, dropping out of school, misogyny (happy now?), and appeal to organized crime have to be addressed.

Bill Cosby, John McWhorter, B. Obama, et al have commented on this.

This is not an indictment that nothing can change, but that change is needed from within.

But no. It's easier to call us "racists" then address the problem.

Good job.

/and yes, I think Zimmerman committed murder
 
2013-06-21 12:12:54 PM  
Ah, glad to see the *Fark Racist Hunters came out.
Diligently tracking down any perceived racial judgement or slur anywhere in America, then outing the RACISTS, so we all know not to listen to anything they say. Keep up the noble cause! Your work is important.
 
2013-06-21 12:34:16 PM  

lohphat: derp derp derp. But no. It's easier to call us "racists"


I don't know what's in your heart. All I know about  you is the nonstop stream of racist mouthpoop you've been glurging out into this discussion. So I suppose it's possible that you're just a normal, non-racist person who loves to say lots of extremely racist things, and argue passionately that a variety of really offensive racist stereotypes are actually true. But I'll stick with Occam's razor on this one.

then address the problem.

You concern is touching
 
2013-06-21 12:40:13 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: I don't know what's in your heart. All I know about  you is the nonstop stream of racist mouthpoop you've been glurging out into this discussion.


"mouthpoop"?

I'm in good company:

We Cannot Blame the White People any Longer by Bill Cosby

...People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what?

And they won't spend $200 for "Hooked on Phonics."

....

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18, and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

And where is the father? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward. Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

...

I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany, Scotland, England, Ireland, or the Netherlands.

The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa - so stop, already!

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap...and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed.

Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' - or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read. We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks, have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

We have to start holding each other to a higher standard....

----

Yeah, "mouthpoop".
 
2013-06-21 12:46:22 PM  
Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America by John McWhorter (accomplished author who happens to also be black)
"Berkeley linguistics professor John McWhorter, born at the dawn of the post-Civil Rights era, spent years trying to make sense of this question. Now he dares to say the unsayable: racism's ugliest legacy is the disease of defeatism that has infected black America. Losing the Race explores the three main components of this cultural virus: the cults of victimology, separatism, and antiintellectualism that are making blacks their own worst enemies in the struggle for success.

More angry than Stephen Carter, more pragmatic and compassionate than Shelby Steele, more forward-looking than Stanley Crouch, McWhorter represents an original and provocative point of view. With Losing the Race, a bold new voice rises among black intellectuals."

And his follow-up:

Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black America

"In his first major book on the state of black America since the New York Times bestseller Losing the Race, John McWhorter argues that a renewed commitment to achievement and integration is the only cure for the crisis in the African-American community.
Winning the Race examines the roots of the serious problems facing black Americans today-poverty, drugs, and high incarceration rates-and contends that none of the commonly accepted reasons can explain the decline of black communities since the end of segregation in the 1960s. Instead, McWhorter posits that a sense of victimhood and alienation that came to the fore during the civil rights era has persisted to the present day in black culture, even though most blacks today have never experienced the racism of the segregation era.

McWhorter traces the effects of this disempowering conception of black identity, from the validation of living permanently on welfare to gansta rap's glorification of irresponsibility and violence as a means of "protest." He discusses particularly specious claims of racism, attacks the destructive posturing of black leaders and the "hip-hop academics," and laments that a successful black person must be faced with charges of "acting white." While acknowledging that racism still exists in America today, McWhorter argues that both blacks and whites must move past blaming racism for every challenge blacks face, and outlines the steps necessary for improving the future of black America."
 
2013-06-21 01:39:55 PM  

lohphat: Ctrl-Alt-Del: I don't know what's in your heart. All I know about  you is the nonstop stream of racist mouthpoop you've been glurging out into this discussion.

"mouthpoop"?

I'm in good company:

We Cannot Blame the White People any Longer by Bill Cosby

...People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what?

And they won't spend $200 for "Hooked on Phonics."

....

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18, and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

And where is the father? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward. Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

...

I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany, Scotland, England, Ireland, or the Netherlands.

The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa - so stop, already!

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap...and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed.

Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' - or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read. We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks, have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are ...


Bill Cosby rules.  And I like the speeches he gives about this very topic.  It's good to see that he's trying to be critical and yet make a difference at the same time.
 
2013-06-21 02:01:57 PM  

titwrench: kimmygibblershomework: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.

Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.

Just ignore that douche.  Much like Drox, they are the racist one.  I did get to add them to the ignore list and suggest ya do the same.

You shouldn't ignore Drox I have him favorites with the tag "read his posts in an Uncle Remus voice" it makes him humorous. He is nothing but a low rent wanna be Louis Farrakhan (sp?) Filled with impotent rage. Even if you try to have discussion to understand his side he will just put up his little black panther fist and tell you "I don't need your white man understanding. Now go away my mama's making me lunch."


I like Drox. I especially like him the threads where people are really wearing their Klan robes, he really takes it to them.
 
2013-06-21 02:24:50 PM  
Seriously,  unless a racist affects my ability to get service or goods or affect my income flow I could give 2 farks.  Please feel free to believe whatever the hell you want, i am not going to trample on your right to say anything in this word to anyone,  nor im i going to  try to get you to think my way about race. it makes it easier for me to make my ,  should I avoid this person"decision tree  much easier to complete .
 
2013-06-21 03:47:37 PM  

rewind2846: Mock26:
Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.

So people who say "now don't be a racist asshole toward other people" are the bad guys now?
What I think is "how would I like to be treated by other people?" and just run with that idea. Works like a charm.
Dude... you are one seriously twisted psyche.
Besides, that tshirt should be free.


No.  I am not saying that at all.  I am saying that people who say "this word can only mean one thing or can only be said by one type of person"  are the bad guys. 
Nor have I ever said anything that would run contrary to "how would I like to be treated by other people" is a bad thing.  Some people, however, are not worth any sort of consideration along those lines.  If someone hits you in the back of the head and is currently yanking your wallet out of your pocket do you really believe that thinking "how would I like to be treated by other people" would work like a charm at that moment?  Does that person who is mugging you deserve to be treated with dignity and respect and as a human being?  No.  They do not.  That person is the lowest form of scum to ever crawl out of the gutter and deserves every single scrap of anger and hatred that can be summoned up from the depths of your soul.  If you want to care about that person's feelings then go ahead.  I, however, will not.
 
2013-06-21 04:35:17 PM  

Silverstaff: rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

I guess you've never once in your life ever said anything you'd regret, even if it was decades prior?  Not a single racial slur, not a single sexist comment, not a single homophobic joke, not a single Islamophobic or anti-Semitic remark?

She probably would have called him an asshole, or a farker or something.  Yeah, there is an excuse, people aren't perfect, and somebody saying a word doesn't instantly make them a bad person.

So yeah, it's a fine excuse: people aren't perfect, and one racial slur said in a emotionally charged incident 20 years ago is perfectly forgivable to any reasonable person.


In may states if a man walks in on his wife have sex with another man and he kills the man 'in the heat of passion' he gets off scott free for murder.  I would think having a gun to your head would get you at least 1 free use of the N-word.
 
2013-06-21 04:50:59 PM  

Fano: titwrench: kimmygibblershomework: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: rewind2846: Mock26: Different levels of anger call for different words.

Bullsh*t. If a white man was equally angry at another white man, would he call that other white man a n****r?
Stop making excuses, it's making you look really stupid.

Stop being a brainwashed, politically correct drone.  It is making you look like a farking asshole.

Batter an asshole than scum that makes excuses for racists. I'll take that "asshole" t-shirt now, size xl thanks.

Better make sure that the people who tell you what to think tell you it is OK to be an asshole before you go spending your money.

Just ignore that douche.  Much like Drox, they are the racist one.  I did get to add them to the ignore list and suggest ya do the same.

You shouldn't ignore Drox I have him favorites with the tag "read his posts in an Uncle Remus voice" it makes him humorous. He is nothing but a low rent wanna be Louis Farrakhan (sp?) Filled with impotent rage. Even if you try to have discussion to understand his side he will just put up his little black panther fist and tell you "I don't need your white man understanding. Now go away my mama's making me lunch."

I like Drox. I especially like him the threads where people are really wearing their Klan robes, he really takes it to them.


Not really he just acts like a butt hurt Kanye West a lot of bolster and chest puffing but no real argument.
 
2013-06-21 04:51:46 PM  

pdee: Silverstaff: rewind2846: Silverstaff: Believe it or not, there were a lot of parts of the south were that word was still in significant use 20 years ago. The idea that a white woman in Savannah in 1993 might use that word in an emotionally charged situation like the aftermath of a bank robbery where she was held at gunpoint is NOT surprising.

Okay... so the question still stands - as I asked another poster, "If she said that word every time she was under stress, what word would she have used if the gunman was white?"

If the "under stress" excuse is the one she's going with, then why not use the same word no matter who is holding her at gunpoint?
The answer to that is the tell. There is no excuse.

Drop the goddamn politically correct bullshiat.  Guess what: not every person is perfect, and if you're going to go all holier than thou on somebody who used a racial slur 20 years ago after they had a gun pressed to their head.

I guess you've never once in your life ever said anything you'd regret, even if it was decades prior?  Not a single racial slur, not a single sexist comment, not a single homophobic joke, not a single Islamophobic or anti-Semitic remark?

She probably would have called him an asshole, or a farker or something.  Yeah, there is an excuse, people aren't perfect, and somebody saying a word doesn't instantly make them a bad person.

So yeah, it's a fine excuse: people aren't perfect, and one racial slur said in a emotionally charged incident 20 years ago is perfectly forgivable to any reasonable person.

In may states if a man walks in on his wife have sex with another man and he kills the man 'in the heat of passion' he gets off scott free for murder.  I would think having a gun to your head would get you at least 1 free use of the N-word.


Not according to some farkers!  They would have you believe that if you even think of using the word that you are a racist hellbent on lynching every single black person on the planet.
 
2013-06-21 05:20:13 PM  

rewind2846: TerminalEchoes: So she uttered a racial slur in the privacy of her own home and has to apologize for that? My lord.

I'm not asking that she apologize for it, because I don't know her nor was it directed at me. The point is that now there are some cockroaches in her kitchen that have been exposed to the light, and that homespun southern matron bullsh*t act, sales pitch and image she has so lovingly crafted is showing noticeable wear and tear. It was also germane to the particulars of the case she was giving the deposition for.

Never bought her stuff, don't give a sh*t. I simply dislike phonies and liars, especially racist ones.


I knew she was a phoney the minute she told people to add sugar to cornbread. Blasphemy.
 
2013-06-21 10:24:58 PM  

Bumblefark: rewind2846: Lorelle: I'm no fan of hers, but she's being honest.
Why do people use this phrase as if it somehow absolves the person in question of what they have done or said that was wrong?
I'm in the "don't give a sh*t" category about whether she was "honest" or not, the issue is what she said. If I run around screaming that I hate Jews or Muslims or whatever dumb sh*t I could spew from my piehole, does the fact that I'm being "honest" about how I feel negate the fact that I'm an asshole?
/seriously people

Nope. But it does at least make you an honest asshole. I'll take that over a closeted bigot, any day.


This.

As others have noted, she was under oath to tell the truth. She could have easily lied, but didn't. If she had lied, the truth would have come out eventually, and then she would be attacked for THAT.

I see that the Food Network has now dropped her show.
 
2013-06-21 11:04:41 PM  
I can't believe all of the hoopla over this.  It's ridiculous.

If she said it on her program, the food network should drop her.

Her stating she said it 27 years ago should be ignored.

Should we all cancel HBO for showing Blazing Saddles?  The Comedy Channel for their roasts and comedians who use it?  Boycott Leonardo DiCaprio and Jamie Foxx movies for their language in Dango Unchained?

The only time I heard that word any more is coming from a rapper, comedian, or actor - rarely white.
 
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