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(ABC News)   Melissa Etheridge doesn't think Angelina Jolie is brave because "It's my belief that cancer comes from inside you." Unlike most scientists, who think cancer comes from demons hiding under your bed   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2013-06-20 07:41:27 PM  
This is why you don't consult a pop musician on medical matters. Certainly she is entitled to an opinion, but she is speaking about something outside her field of expertise, about a complex matter where her opinion has no value.
 
2013-06-20 07:42:28 PM  
I think her sister must have diddled all the sense out of that woman.
 
2013-06-20 07:43:27 PM  

Takeshi6400: T.rex: Whether you think she's a fool or not, i guarantee her thinking is at least as equally as effective as chemo or whatever else cancer docs try to shill out.

You're not very smart.


Please cite me an article from anywhere on the web (i'll leave the choice to you) that hypes the efficacy of chemotherapy, and lets discuss.
 
2013-06-20 07:44:38 PM  
"I don't have any opinion of what she 'should have' done. All are free to choose. I only objected to the term 'brave' describing it," Etheridge said in a statement to ABC News.

OK, I'll agree with that.  "Brave" could possibly be attributed to the act of announcing it and bringing public awareness to a public health issue, particularly since much of her living is based on her good looks.  Personally, I think she was just getting out in front of the eventual disclosure, though I don't doubt her sincerity when she speaks about her condition and warns others about it.

The actual double-mastectomy, however, was a conscious choice made after carefully considering the pluses and minuses of each.  No bravery is involved in making a decision that you consider to be the safest, healthwise.  It's just trying to make the best of being dealt a shiatty genetic hand.

The rest of what Etheridge said, however, sounds like she's been soaking in holistic 'medicine' since her last radio hit, and forgot to come up for air all that time.
 
2013-06-20 07:45:47 PM  

LewDux: StoPPeRmobile: [img.fark.net image 468x623]

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RIP


That's messed up.
 
2013-06-20 07:47:30 PM  
I was surprised to find out that silicone can get cancer.
 
2013-06-20 07:50:34 PM  

Mugato: Arachnophobe: Did a great cover of You Shook Me All Night Long.

Thanks, that made me reflexively punch my cat in the face. I'm sending you the vet bill.

/just kidding, I'm at work
//still, you're a dick


Oh, nobody told you about the Celine Dion version, then?

Umm, well, frankly I won't even link it.  The black hole of suck would DESTROY US ALL!


Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.


Why the hell is it people are bringing up stuff lately that I thought only I remembered?

/have three of her albums
//For your linkie pleasure
///No Celine Dion, I promise, though the Joan Osborne duet is better
 
2013-06-20 07:52:10 PM  
Hey Missy, come to my window ...  I'm too lazy to get up to huck this at you.
 
2013-06-20 07:53:08 PM  
I marvel at healthy people going on about the racket that cancer care is. If you don't have cancer, STFU. If you do have cancer, you're going to die. I had stage 3 cancer. I'm alive because of those expensive ass chemicals and poisonous radiation. The shills were the people trying to get me to believe that bullshiat like magnets and eating raw food would save me.
 
2013-06-20 07:55:32 PM  

Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.


As I lay me down to sleep was pretty good, and helped me managed a long distance relationship in high school, but there's this nagging thought in my head:
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Ah yes, the woman that could stick 9 dicks in her mouth at once, if she wasn't munching Darlene Conner's carpet.
 
2013-06-20 07:59:42 PM  

Fano: Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.

As I lay me down to sleep was pretty good, and helped me managed a long distance relationship in high school, but there's this nagging thought in my head:
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Ah yes, the woman that could stick 9 dicks in her mouth at once, if she wasn't munching Darlene Conner's carpet.


Put a book in front of it.
 
2013-06-20 08:01:08 PM  

Irving Maimway: The women on my mom's side of the family have BRAC running through them like kudzu in the South. We've had three double mastectomies in the last 10 years, not to mention my mom dying at 29 from breast cancer. Miss Etheridge can go fark herself.


Reposted because science!
 
2013-06-20 08:03:59 PM  

T.rex: Takeshi6400: T.rex: Whether you think she's a fool or not, i guarantee her thinking is at least as equally as effective as chemo or whatever else cancer docs try to shill out.

You're not very smart.

Please cite me an article from anywhere on the web (i'll leave the choice to you) that hypes the efficacy of chemotherapy, and lets discuss.


This thread is going places.  Better put a bag of SmartPop in the microwave
 
2013-06-20 08:04:50 PM  
Strangely sexy lesbian singers from the '90s thread!

img.fark.net

Ok she might not be a lesbian but she clearly hates men.
 
2013-06-20 08:06:00 PM  
brave or not, she's GAY and that's all that really matters
 
2013-06-20 08:07:25 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: LesserEvil: Igor Jakovsky: Cancer does come from in side of you unless it is melanoma.

Well, I had melanoma inside my eye, and the doctors have no idea how that happens, either.

Yeesh, hope you are OK and can still see out of that eye. Ive never heard of that.


If it was a squamous cell tumor, it might've been because he was looking for love in all the wrong places.

/so sorry
 
2013-06-20 08:08:34 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: LesserEvil: Igor Jakovsky: Cancer does come from in side of you unless it is melanoma.

Well, I had melanoma inside my eye, and the doctors have no idea how that happens, either.

Yeesh, hope you are OK and can still see out of that eye.  Ive never heard of that.


Treated with radiation back in 2010... they put a radioactive plaque (chip) on the eyeball where the tumor was - in this case, toward the back, which meant taking the eye out of the socket to perform the operation -  for a week, then they removed it. That was followed up by a few visits for laser treatment (burning the rest of the tumor out, inside the eyeball). Yeah, not a fun deal for me at all. Even the laser treatments involved the fun of painful shots under my eye to temporarily paralyze the eye, as well as ultrasound probes that had to be run directly on the surface of my eye.

The lasting effect on my vision is the optic nerve took damage from the radiation and is degrading. I still have depth perception, but I cannot really read with that eye. I describe it as looking through a pane of glass spattered with water.

The oddest thing though is that I also discovered that I have a missing memory... a cat we had in 2005 has been completely erased from my memory. I wouldn't have even realized it had it not been for a picture of the cat in my house. A cat that apparently hung out with me constantly when I was home, but had health problems and we ended up putting him to sleep. I suspect the radiation did a number on my brain, too.
 
2013-06-20 08:08:40 PM  

CWeinerWV: This thread is going places. Better put a bag of SmartPop in the microwave


Pleasantly surprising, no?  Shkrimps on the barbie, and what not.
 
2013-06-20 08:15:13 PM  

T.rex: Please cite me an article from anywhere on the web (i'll leave the choice to you) that hypes the efficacy of chemotherapy


Debate does not work that way. You made an entirely unsupported allegation. You have no credibility.

Please show us the extensive testing which proves chemo is ineffective.
 
2013-06-20 08:23:04 PM  
Angelia Jolie was "fearful" and not "brave" for undergoing a double mastectomy to avoid breast cancer.

That's 100% true, Jolie was afraid she would get cancer so she had the surgery. Don't know why people are making a big deal out of it.
 
2013-06-20 08:23:42 PM  

Mugato: Strangely sexy lesbian singers from the '90s thread!

[img.fark.net image 300x450]

Ok she might not be a lesbian but she clearly hates men.


Having heard her interviewed at length (Stern) I don't think that's true at all.  I think there's a couple guys out there she's pretty pissed at, but I found her to be surprisingly level-headed and self-aware...fun, even.

I don't know why I thought I needed to share that.

/cool story?

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2013-06-20 08:27:43 PM  
I keep trying to manifest a million bucks and a tentacle monster but it ain't happened yet.
 
2013-06-20 08:29:09 PM  

ReapTheChaos: That's 100% true, Jolie was afraid she would get cancer so she had the surgery. Don't know why people are making a big deal out of it.


I dunno, a lot of people (like me) would bury their head in the sand and ignore the issue until they were dead. She faced it and dealt with it, I think that was pretty brave.
 
2013-06-20 08:40:20 PM  

Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.


Mine too.  Her star should've been hotter.  She also had a baby at 43, not long ago - good on her.
 
2013-06-20 08:51:03 PM  
I guess that just goes to show you that Melissa Etheridge is offensively ignorant.
 
2013-06-20 09:00:23 PM  
Is Melissa Etheridge a scientologist? ... Cause she's acting like one.
 
2013-06-20 09:03:15 PM  

Mrs.Sharpier: Is Melissa Etheridge a scientologist? ... Cause she's acting like one.


No, scientology keeps their celebrity members in the closet.
 
2013-06-20 09:12:05 PM  
Chemo is horrible, awful, miserable stuff. Cancer is worse.

Watching someone you love struggle with cancer and with chemo is so horrible that I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. And I'm fairly vindictive.

Angelina Jolie made a painful decision that may spare herself and the people she loves the agony of cancer and cancer treatments. I personally call that brave and wish her the best.
 
2013-06-20 09:20:25 PM  

T.rex: Whether you think she's a fool or not, i guarantee her thinking is at least as equally as effective as chemo or whatever else cancer docs try to shill out.


My CA-125 had gone from 300-something down to 8 since I started chemo. Believe it or not, there is a science behind getting pumped full of toxic chemicals that target fast-growing cells. But if you're telling me that Etheridge's medieval attitude is "at least as effective" as what I'm doing now, I suppose I should stop the chemo and save myself all the discomfort and nausea.
 
2013-06-20 09:20:41 PM  

SpdrJay: But Michael Douglas said that oral sex causes cancer?


Oral sex can transmit the HPV virus, which does, indeed, cause cancer.  That's why you should get vaccinated against it.
 
2013-06-20 09:25:39 PM  

starleen: I marvel at healthy people going on about the racket that cancer care is. If you don't have cancer, STFU. If you do have cancer, you're going to die. I had stage 3 cancer. I'm alive because of those expensive ass chemicals and poisonous radiation. The shills were the people trying to get me to believe that bullshiat like magnets and eating raw food would save me.


Thank you for sharing this.  I hope that you have continued good health.
 
2013-06-20 09:34:58 PM  

T.rex: Takeshi6400: T.rex: Whether you think she's a fool or not, i guarantee her thinking is at least as equally as effective as chemo or whatever else cancer docs try to shill out.

You're not very smart.

Please cite me an article from anywhere on the web (i'll leave the choice to you) that hypes the efficacy of chemotherapy, and lets discuss.


I question your choice of the word "hype" but here's a study on chemotherapy's efficacy for testicular cancer, peer reviewed and published in a reputable medical journal:  http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/8/11/1777.abstract
 
2013-06-20 09:37:34 PM  

Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.


My theory is that Melissa Etheridge and Holly Near are slowly merging into the same person.
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2013-06-20 09:48:58 PM  

meanmutton: SpdrJay: But Michael Douglas said that oral sex causes cancer?

Oral sex can transmit the HPV virus, which does, indeed, cause cancer.  That's why you should get vaccinated against it.


There's no way in hell I'm getting vaccinated against oral sex!
 
2013-06-20 09:49:29 PM  
If you have your boobs removed because you fear getting cancer in them, you're fearful.

French kissing your brother on the red carpet at the Oscars is brave (and sick).
 
2013-06-20 09:50:30 PM  

Mugato: Sophie B. Hawkins is my favorite lesbian singer from the 90's. When asked.


In, what, 1990 (?), you could throw a stick at any radio anywhere and you'd hit Closer To Fine.
 
2013-06-20 10:06:14 PM  

TheOmni: There's been a lot of terrible comments about Angelina Jolie's decision, but those have been mostly in the misogynist 'women's bodies are public property' sort of vein. I haven't really seen that much of this sort of 'I don't understand science' stuff though. There has been a lot of failure to understand exactly how high risk she was and underplaying that, but I'm not sure if that's just poor reading comprehension or poor math skills.

Either way, it's all bullshiat.


M.E. has a point.  If you have a high risk of getting a cancer that is going to kill you someday and you can nip it in the bud, how are you heroic for doing so?  I mean, if I choose to save my own life, how am I a hero?  To whom?  Plenty of people battle far worse than what Jolie went through but their names are getting put up in lights about what a hero they are. One of the basic human instincts is survival.
 
2013-06-20 10:12:09 PM  

srhp29: M.E. has a point.  If you have a high risk of getting a cancer that is going to kill you someday and you can nip it in the bud, how are you heroic for doing so?  I mean, if I choose to save my own life, how am I a hero?  To whom?  Plenty of people battle far worse than what Jolie went through but their names are getting put up in lights about what a hero they are. One of the basic human instincts is survival.


You could ignore the problem and hope for the best or you can get proactive and go through some terrible experiences to deal with it. The latter is brave.

I find that from helping to rebuild NOLA to adopting children who would otherwise be dead, Jolie can do no right for some people.
 
2013-06-20 10:13:01 PM  

srhp29: TheOmni: There's been a lot of terrible comments about Angelina Jolie's decision, but those have been mostly in the misogynist 'women's bodies are public property' sort of vein. I haven't really seen that much of this sort of 'I don't understand science' stuff though. There has been a lot of failure to understand exactly how high risk she was and underplaying that, but I'm not sure if that's just poor reading comprehension or poor math skills.

Either way, it's all bullshiat.

M.E. has a point.  If you have a high risk of getting a cancer that is going to kill you someday and you can nip it in the bud, how are you heroic for doing so?  I mean, if I choose to save my own life, how am I a hero?  To whom?  Plenty of people battle far worse than what Jolie went through but their names are getting put up in lights about what a hero they are. One of the basic human instincts is survival.


What you say is completely irrelevant. She said that Jolie was not brave. You are pretending the issue is that she said Jolie is not a hero.
 
2013-06-20 10:14:07 PM  
"If I did it, that means everyone else must be like me!!"

Attention whore is attention whoring.
 
2013-06-20 10:16:11 PM  
People have smoked tobacco in Africa for hundreds of years - BUT lung cancer was never a problem (hardly even reported) UNTIL the British colonized and industrialized Africa. Occurences of lung cancer came immediately after DEISEL FUEL EXHAUST was introduced into their environment. In fact, the reason WHY there aren't many full-service gas stations left is because the attendants started being commonly diagnosed with lung cancer FROM the DEISEL FUEL EXHAUST.

People smoked in Africa for thousands of years but never got lung cancer until the British industrialized them (full-service gas stations closed because ALL the attendants got lung cancer FROM breathing diesel exhaust)... SMALL PARTICLES CAUSE CANCER (mold, radiation) - smoke is NOT small enough...

I've spent hours researching this topic and have never found a single peer-reviewed report of a REAL study proving that smoking tobacco causes cancer. This experiment is as simple as putting rats in 2 separate cages, and blowing smoke into one of them - IF cigarette smoke DOES cause cancer = the rats in the smoke-filled chamber will develop cancerous tumors, while the rats in the control cage would NOT. So after all the money THEY spend telling us that smoking causes cancer - WHY NOT spend $100 on some rats and a pack of smokes to PROVE it? Until THEY do, this is just a load of propaganda to defer the responsibility and cost of the INDUSTRIAL SMOKESTACKS that THEY scrape for sodium fluoride to add to our public water supply (which does indeed cause osteoporosis and bone cancer in boys).


Got that? Tobacco good, fluoride bad. It's unfortunate how many people actually believe this sort of crap. Or that there is a cure for cancer, but "big pharma" won't let it be released. Then they make important decisions based on their horoscope.
 
2013-06-20 10:18:54 PM  
I don't know I this has been said yet, but...
What a tard
 
2013-06-20 10:27:36 PM  
Repo Man:
Got that? Tobacco good, fluoride bad. It's unfortunate how many people actually believe this sort of crap. Or that there is a cure for cancer, but "big pharma" won't let it be released. Then they make important decisions based on their horoscope.

I was doubtful, but the website seems to be organic. I think that's worth something at least.
 
2013-06-20 10:47:26 PM  

Lorelle: If you have your boobs removed because you fear getting cancer in them, you're fearful.

French kissing your brother on the red carpet at the Oscars is brave (and sick).


Fearful?  How about realistic.  She had a close to 90% chance of developing very aggressive breast cancer.  Something like a 50% mortality rate even if caught early.

With the mastectomy her odds of being dead in 10 years from cancer went from something like flipping a coin and if it comes up tails you die to something like rolling a 1 on a D20.

Given that math, you may call her fearful, but I'd call the other choice stupid.
 
2013-06-20 10:51:08 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Repo Man:
Got that? Tobacco good, fluoride bad. It's unfortunate how many people actually believe this sort of crap. Or that there is a cure for cancer, but "big pharma" won't let it be released. Then they make important decisions based on their horoscope.

I was doubtful, but the website seems to be organic. I think that's worth something at least.




He really gets going on the autism/anti vax section of his site. Or she, moronity isn't limited to men. It boggles my mind; apparently, prior to western science, everyone was healthy, and no one had cancer ever. I wonder what their Fark handle is?
 
2013-06-20 11:10:52 PM  

Irving Maimway: The Caladrius Bird is placed beside a patient. If the bird looks at a patient's face, she should have her breasts removed; but if it looks at her feet, she should not.

 
2013-06-20 11:39:03 PM  
Sounds like a clear imbalance of the humors
 
2013-06-20 11:45:14 PM  

FarkinHostile: Irving Maimway: The Caladrius Bird is placed beside a patient. If the bird looks at a patient's face, she should have her breasts removed; but if it looks at her feet, she should not.


Hey, who's the Barber here?


Another pint from Etheridge and two pints from the bird!
 
2013-06-20 11:45:28 PM  
I'm still undecided on this one, I need to hear a few more celebrity opinions before making my mind.
 
2013-06-20 11:50:06 PM  

Mugato: "...and further, I'm an obnoxious bulldog who hasn't been relevant in a decade 1

/2 Century, so let me glom on to the story of one of my betters."
 
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