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2013-06-20 01:42:03 PM
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Project much, Rush?
 
2013-06-20 01:46:32 PM
why can't this fat fark just die of a heart attack already.
 
2013-06-20 01:47:54 PM
He's so boring.
 
2013-06-20 01:48:16 PM
Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.
 
2013-06-20 01:50:19 PM
What's the one thing traditional marriage should never say to gay marriage in a bar?

Can I push your stool in?
 
2013-06-20 01:51:57 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.


Is that a rhetorical question or do you really want an answer?
 
2013-06-20 01:53:20 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.


It's because they have just enough self-awareness to fear what they themselves would do in a a world where they were free to let up on their own breaks just a little bit. I honestly don't think you make a life (or certainly a career) out of being "conservative" on every goddamn issue unless you are repressing something about yourself that haunts you a great deal and you desperately need the weight of society to help you keep the monsters caged.
 
2013-06-20 01:53:57 PM
Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.
 
2013-06-20 01:54:59 PM
Why is it the loudest defenders of "traditional marriage" are the ones with the most ex-wives?
 
2013-06-20 01:55:04 PM
He forgot turtles, man, it's turtles all the way down.
 
2013-06-20 01:56:35 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?


Well it is Rush Limbaugh he has lots of practice from his all man trips to Dominican Republic, child prostitution capital of the world with a bottle of Viagra.
 
2013-06-20 01:58:17 PM
If we let gay people get married then what is to stop Jabba the Hutt from marrying an Ewok?  It will be the end for traditional Huttese marriages(whatever those are.)
 
2013-06-20 01:58:40 PM

gshepnyc: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

It's because they have just enough self-awareness to fear what they themselves would do in a a world where they were free to let up on their own breaks just a little bit. I honestly don't think you make a life (or certainly a career) out of being "conservative" on every goddamn issue unless you are repressing something about yourself that haunts you a great deal and you desperately need the weight of society to help you keep the monsters caged.


That would be the same society that conservatives rail against because it takes away their Freedoms.

In other words, they want to be free to be monsters as long as no-one else can.
 
2013-06-20 01:59:37 PM
I really hope limbaugh continues to speak for the GOP and their family values platform. Every time he tries to claim the moral high ground the GOP loses a couple hundred more voters.
 
2013-06-20 02:01:26 PM
Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.
 
2013-06-20 02:01:35 PM
I won't outright dismiss the idea that pedophilia is connected to a fixed sexual orientation.
If that's what the evidence suggests then there's really no denying it.

But that wouldn't change that children can't consent, and anyone looking to engage in sexual acts with children is ethically and legally in the wrong.

I mean, fark, if you're going to suggest that gay marriage opens the floodgates for legal child molestation then you might as well say it also opens the floodgates for legal murder, theft, and everything else under the sun. Yes, that would be total anarchy. Good thing that consent is such an important facet of our laws, totally annihilating any such "danger" posed by gay marriage.
 
2013-06-20 02:01:47 PM

ManateeGag: why can't this fat fark just die of a heart attack already.


Probably that contract he signed with Satan. I think he has another 20 years, at least.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:09 PM

Weaver95: I really hope limbaugh continues to speak for the GOP and their family values platform. Every time he tries to claim the moral high ground the GOP loses a couple hundred more voters.


Luckily for the GOP, they'll just gerrymander those 100 voters into.a 98% Republican district they just pulled out of their ass.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:22 PM
Rush has been saying that for a while now.

A year from now, he'll be saying it was never a big deal to begin with.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:34 PM
Does he also believe that legalization of marijuana will lead to an increase of people destroying their hearing by Oxy abuse?

You just know that he is dejected because he sees the time-share money he spent in the Dominican at El Niño Chingado resort might have been wasted if everyone can get it locally
 
2013-06-20 02:02:51 PM

Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.


This isn't 4chan.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:59 PM
FTFA: There is a movement on to normalize pedophilia, and I guarantee you your reaction to that is probably much the same as your reaction when you first heard about gay marriage.

If by "much the same" you mean "completely the opposite", then yes.
 
2013-06-20 02:03:13 PM

Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.


Most anal sex between heterosexuals.
 
2013-06-20 02:03:52 PM

meat0918: Why is it the loudest defenders of "traditional marriage" are the ones with the most ex-wives?


They have the most marrying experience.
 
2013-06-20 02:04:18 PM
Hey Republicans... tell us again how he's just an entertainer and doesn't speak for the GOP. Then you can prove it by listing all the Republicans in Congress who support gay marriage (don't worry - it won't take you very long).
 
2013-06-20 02:05:14 PM

Cythraul: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

This isn't 4chan.


It was yesterday.
 
2013-06-20 02:06:08 PM

GhostFish: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

Most anal sex between heterosexuals.


And if you're doing it right, fecal matter isn't involved.  Nice try though.  Let us know when your standup tour starts.
 
2013-06-20 02:06:22 PM
I have never heard this argument before.
 
2013-06-20 02:06:34 PM
Hey Rush, that bandwagon has left the station.
 
2013-06-20 02:06:57 PM

Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.


Someone has never tried to remove anal lube stains from 1500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets.
 
2013-06-20 02:08:02 PM

Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wifes.


FTFY

Ex 21:10 If he take him another wife....
De 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated....
 
2013-06-20 02:08:16 PM

wellreadneck: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

Someone has never tried to remove anal lube stains from 1500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets.


That's why I always have a layer of plastic sheets over my 'real' ones.
 
2013-06-20 02:08:47 PM

Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.


Only until he died.  After that, his brother owned her.
 
2013-06-20 02:08:58 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

boys?

All these people are incredibly ignorant or deliberately misleading or massive sexists if not all three when they don't mention all the girls that get abused.  If there really was a marriage->pedophilia connection the solution would be banning ALL marriage.
 
2013-06-20 02:09:27 PM

Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.


That is hilarious!!!

The way you allude to "packing shiate" and how that is all Takei is humor at its finest.

It won't be long before Comedy Central will be knocking on your door.

Hold your breath till then
 
2013-06-20 02:09:52 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.


You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.
 
2013-06-20 02:10:58 PM

theorellior: He forgot turtles, man, it's turtles all the way down.


Every time someone mentions this now all I can think about are people being forced to marry Mitch McConnell.
 
2013-06-20 02:11:45 PM
The slippery slope argument should never be used by anyone, not even to advocate for what you or I might agree is the "right" side. It is fundamentally flawed logic. Every step deserves to be judged on its own merits. We're trying to climb to the top of Mt. Moral. If the peak is 50 feet in front of us, we should walk 50 feet. The fact that 70 feet is too far doesn't eliminate the fact that where we are isn't far enough.
 
2013-06-20 02:12:01 PM

ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.


When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?
 
2013-06-20 02:13:01 PM

A Terrible Human: theorellior: He forgot turtles, man, it's turtles all the way down.

Every time someone mentions this now all I can think about are people being forced to marry Mitch McConnell.


That is just SICK! You need a brain bleach!
 
2013-06-20 02:13:41 PM
Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL


That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.
 
2013-06-20 02:14:01 PM
Rush has 4 wives?
How did he manage that?  Is polygamy legal in Florida?
 
2013-06-20 02:14:48 PM
The "rising sense of inevitability," as the Pew researchers explained, was significant in groups that are usually reluctant to support gay marriage, including Republicans, seniors and white evangelical Protestants. Although the same-sex marriage issue remains divisive - with 42% saying they opposed making it legal and 45% believing homosexual behavior is a sin - opponents and supporters are resigned to its eventual legalization. Released Thursday, the Pew study included phone-survey responses from 1,504 adults in all 50 states who were polled in the first five days of May.

Lay back and relax, Bloviator. This isn't going to hurt at all, I promise.
 
2013-06-20 02:14:53 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing
 
2013-06-20 02:14:54 PM

Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


I'm guessing that, according to Wikipedia, the 80s?  According to Wikipedia, that is.
 
2013-06-20 02:15:17 PM

Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


Not the whole community.

Just the closeted Republicans.
 
2013-06-20 02:15:27 PM

Cythraul: wellreadneck: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

Someone has never tried to remove anal lube stains from 1500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets.

That's why I always have a layer of plastic sheets over my 'real' ones.


PSA -http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all &a ddress=105x773819
 
2013-06-20 02:16:08 PM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


why the focus on consenting or not?
Are you okay with consenting child?
 
2013-06-20 02:16:10 PM

Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


It wasn't. But conservatives are still trying to find an equalizer for the whole Catholic sex abuse thing, so they pretend that was the case.
 
2013-06-20 02:16:29 PM
So Rush Limbaugh thinks raping kids is OK? Is that even news?
 
2013-06-20 02:17:36 PM
The mouthpiece of the GOP has spoken!

not shocking, not edgy, nothing of actual substance, just loud mouth attention gettin' hate.

so, we take out the attention & it's simply some guy in a booth talking to his constituency regurgitating their beliefs to one another.

he is powerless against us.
 
2013-06-20 02:18:16 PM

Farxist: Are you okay with consenting child?


This must be the Politics tab I've heard so much about.  Pardon me while I go get a post-facepalm ice pack.
 
2013-06-20 02:21:24 PM

Tommy Moo: The slippery slope argument should never be used by anyone, not even to advocate for what you or I might agree is the "right" side. It is fundamentally flawed logic. Every step deserves to be judged on its own merits. We're trying to climb to the top of Mt. Moral. If the peak is 50 feet in front of us, we should walk 50 feet. The fact that 70 feet is too far doesn't eliminate the fact that where we are isn't far enough.


There are plenty of occasions when the slope is actually quite slippery.
 
2013-06-20 02:22:20 PM
Oddly enough, he said almost the same thing last year, after SCOTUS ruled Obamacare legal.
 
2013-06-20 02:22:53 PM
You know, we could just ignore him.
 
2013-06-20 02:24:58 PM

factoryconnection: Farxist: Are you okay with consenting child?

This must be the Politics tab I've heard so much about.  Pardon me while I go get a post-facepalm ice pack.


When you selective cut out things from a post, you will lose context.  I am not sure why you did that whether it was deliberate or not.
 
2013-06-20 02:26:10 PM

ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing


Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.
 
2013-06-20 02:26:41 PM

EyeballKid: You know, we could just ignore him.


that seems to be our best option, i must admit that it's hard not to point & laugh & then feel offended, followed by acceptance of the Right wing view on SS marriage.

Then vote accordingly, so some good may come out of their hate.
 
2013-06-20 02:29:28 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.


But that was in the Dominican Republic so it is okay. Leave Rush alone!
 
2013-06-20 02:32:46 PM

Weaver95: I really hope limbaugh continues to speak for the GOP and their family values platform. Every time he tries to claim the moral high ground the GOP loses a couple hundred more voters.


This should be true, but then again, these family voters are the biggest hypocrites...

Exhibit A)
SC family voters voting in Mark Sanford to Congress this year.
 
2013-06-20 02:34:47 PM

Cythraul: Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.


In this instance, the LGBT community is a person called Harry Hay. And he didn't even support NAMBLA, he just said it seemed hypocritical of the gay community to utterly reject them the way that it had since their inception.
 
2013-06-20 02:35:25 PM

Farxist: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

why the focus on consenting or not?
Are you okay with consenting child?


A child is incapable of consent.  QED
 
2013-06-20 02:35:38 PM

EyeballKid: You know, we could just ignore him.


Are you kidding me? What would we do without him?! The more rush talks, the more he weakens the republican party. Every time limbaugh grabs a headline he inspires contempt for the GOP and their family values platform. I couldn't find a more effective weapon against evangelical dominionist Christian repubublicans than rush limbaugh and his insane rants about how he is gonna fix this country and stop the godless heathen libruls who are ruining it for rich white guys and their 20 something trophy wives.
 
2013-06-20 02:35:59 PM

Farxist: When you selective cut out things from a post, you will lose context. I am not sure why you did that whether it was deliberate or not.


You suck at this. Really, really badly. My advice: lurk moar, and take notes. Come back with an alt that's not associated with fail of such magnitude.
 
2013-06-20 02:36:09 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.



From the article:


Allen Ginsberg,
Harry Hay,
Pat Califia,
Gay PAC (Gay People at Cornell)
New York City Gay Pride March
Gay Liberation Front
The International Lesbian and Gay Association

notice under the section "Relations with LGBT organizations", there's a whole lot of condemning and ejecting, but pay attention to the dates: this all happened during 1993-1994, whereas Nambla had been associated with these groups throughout the 80's. So there's a 10-15 year gap between Nambla's participation and these organization's condemnation.
 
2013-06-20 02:36:56 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


Nineteen derpity-five.
 
2013-06-20 02:38:59 PM
If I were King, I would have one of you do a little research and find him talking about this subject every few days/weeks since his maw first intruded on the public airwaves and show that his dire predictions never really occur.  They are only meant to scare rubes and garner notice to him.

I would also have one of you bring me an iced tea, slightly sweetened with a lemon wedge.
 
2013-06-20 02:39:04 PM
None his 4 wives available for comment

Nor were the children of the Dominican Republic.
 
2013-06-20 02:41:02 PM

ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.

Gay PAC (Gay People at Cornell)
Gay Liberation Front
The International Lesbian and Gay Association


Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.
 
2013-06-20 02:41:21 PM
Rush limbaugh leads to the expansion of Dominican boy's bungholes.
 
2013-06-20 02:41:44 PM
Cythraul:

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.

They never really had much support, and there was active opposition to including them right from the beginning.  GLAAD didn't make an official statement about NAMBLA until 1994, so I suppose that's what  ScreamingHangover is referring to as "acceptance."
 
2013-06-20 02:43:09 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.

Gay PAC (Gay People at Cornell)
Gay Liberation Front
The International Lesbian and Gay Association

Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.


*pulls string* The whackadoodle goes "herpa derpa doooooo!"
 
2013-06-20 02:43:18 PM

ScreamingHangover: So there's a 10-15 year gap between Nambla's participation and these organization's condemnation.


I guess there's a reason you keep flogging this hobby-horse, but I don't think it's working the way you intended it.
 
2013-06-20 02:43:26 PM

theorellior: Farxist: When you selective cut out things from a post, you will lose context. I am not sure why you did that whether it was deliberate or not.

You suck at this. Really, really badly. My advice: lurk moar, and take notes. Come back with an alt that's not associated with fail of such magnitude.


If a response is already 100% fail, that I only quoted 50% of it, it is still completely consisting of failure.  I see my point has already been covered, however.
 
2013-06-20 02:44:33 PM

theorellior: Farxist: When you selective cut out things from a post, you will lose context. I am not sure why you did that whether it was deliberate or not.

You suck at this. Really, really badly. My advice: lurk moar, and take notes. Come back with an alt that's not associated with fail of such magnitude.


Well, at least I know which alts you use.
 
2013-06-20 02:45:17 PM

Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.


Terrible delivery. Just bad, and you should feel bad.

"In case of a fire their shiat is already packed!"
 
2013-06-20 02:46:28 PM
Subby, since none of his 4 wives were available for comment, you could ask Dominican republic boys about it. I'm sure some of them will be happy.
 
2013-06-20 02:46:34 PM

Farxist: Well, at least I know which alts you use.


If you're thinking that I'm an alt of anyone's, or have any alts, then you can cross off "become Sherlock Holmes" from your bucket list, because it ain't happening.
 
2013-06-20 02:47:09 PM

Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.


Hold on, they'll be getting around to that part.
 
2013-06-20 02:47:57 PM
ScreamingHangover:

notice under the section "Relations with LGBT organizations", there's a whole lot of condemning and ejecting, but pay attention to the dates: this all happened during 1993-1994,

You should go back and re-read that section of your link.  It does not support your claim.
 
2013-06-20 02:50:53 PM

Cythraul: Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.


Funny how you missed the New York City Gay Pride March . That's how I (and most) first heard of Nambla: back in the 80's, it was an annual event in the local news how various LGBT organizations were protesting their participation in the parade. Nonetheless, they were still sanctioned participants.

The article I linked to was quite well written and contains quite a few citations from reputable source. I know the LGBT community likes to act like none of this ever existed; however, it did. Deal with it.

Now, if you  want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.
 
2013-06-20 02:53:56 PM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


My honest-to-god understanding is that conservatives were never really that big on consent.
 
2013-06-20 02:54:06 PM

Farxist: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

why the focus on consenting or not?
Are you okay with consenting child?


A child, legally, cannot consent.  They can sign all the papers they want saying they consent and you can get a video of them saying "yes I consent to have sex" and it doesn't matter.  By operation of law, they cannot consent.

/not sure if this was already covered
 
2013-06-20 02:54:08 PM

Farxist: factoryconnection: Farxist: Are you okay with consenting child?

This must be the Politics tab I've heard so much about.  Pardon me while I go get a post-facepalm ice pack.

When you selective cut out things from a post, you will lose context.  I am not sure why you did that whether it was deliberate or not.


Hey - don't blame him.
YOU'RE the one seeming to imply that children can consent to being raped and abused.
 
2013-06-20 02:55:06 PM

Farxist: Well, at least I know which alts you use.


All of them. Fark is only me talking to myself, and your lame troll account.
 
2013-06-20 02:55:08 PM

ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.

Funny how you missed the New York City Gay Pride March . That's how I (and most) first heard of Nambla: back in the 80's, it was an annual event in the local news how various LGBT organizations were protesting their participation in the parade. Nonetheless, they were still sanctioned participants.

The article I linked to was quite well written and contains quite a few citations from reputable source. I know the LGBT community likes to act like none of this ever existed; however, it did. Deal with it.

Now, if you  want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.


You can also stop wasting my time by citing a few organizations that either no longer exist, or whom are so obscure as to never even crossed my radar in my entire life as examples of wide acceptance by the LGBT community for NAMBLA.

Also, a gay pride parade in one city does not constitute wide support by an entire national subculture.
 
hej
2013-06-20 02:55:38 PM

EyeballKid: You know, we could just ignore him.


It's far better to play into his trolling by giving him publicity.
 
2013-06-20 02:56:02 PM
You'd think he'd want those things...
 
2013-06-20 02:56:40 PM

ScreamingHangover: Now, if you want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.


Why are you flogging this particular hobbyhorse? What's your point, and how is it relevant to a discussion in 2013?
 
2013-06-20 02:57:20 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.

Funny how you missed the New York City Gay Pride March . That's how I (and most) first heard of Nambla: back in the 80's, it was an annual event in the local news how various LGBT organizations were protesting their participation in the parade. Nonetheless, they were still sanctioned participants.

The article I linked to was quite well written and contains quite a few citations from reputable source. I know the LGBT community likes to act like none of this ever existed; however, it did. Deal with it.

Now, if you  want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.

You can also stop wasting my time by citing a few organizations that either no longer exist, or whom are so obscure as to never even crossed my radar in my entire life as examples of wide acceptance by the LGBT community for NAMBLA.

Also, a gay pride parade in one city does not constitute wide support by an entire national subculture.


Yes. because we all know New York's gay population is marginal.
 
2013-06-20 02:57:39 PM

Farxist: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

why the focus on consenting or not?
Are you okay with consenting child?


The point being that a child can't consent.  The focus is on consent because that's a very bright line between sex that should be legal, and sex that shouldn't be legal.  You of course, know this already but thought you had a neat gotcha created only due to jumping on a statement without actually reading it.
 
2013-06-20 02:58:36 PM

ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: Gay people at Cornell? Seriously? That's your "LGBT community?"

I've never even heard of the Gay Liberation Front or the IL&GA.

Sounds like a community wide scandal to me.

Funny how you missed the New York City Gay Pride March . That's how I (and most) first heard of Nambla: back in the 80's, it was an annual event in the local news how various LGBT organizations were protesting their participation in the parade. Nonetheless, they were still sanctioned participants.

The article I linked to was quite well written and contains quite a few citations from reputable source. I know the LGBT community likes to act like none of this ever existed; however, it did. Deal with it.

Now, if you  want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.


You might as well claim that Christians support child molestation because fundamentalist Mormons believe they have the right to underage spirit brides.

Deal with it. That's how facts work.
 
2013-06-20 03:01:09 PM
"There is a movement on to normalize pedophilia,"

No.

"and I guarantee you your reaction to that is probably much the same as your reaction when you first heard about gay marriage."

And no.

What a buffoon.
 
2013-06-20 03:01:14 PM

Lutrasimilis: You might as well claim that Christians support child molestation because fundamentalist Mormons believe they have the right to underage spirit brides.


Of course Christians support child/wives.  Mary, the mother of Jesus, was only 12 when she was knocked up by god himself.  If god saw no problem with knocking up a 12 year old, why would any Christian?
 
2013-06-20 03:01:37 PM

theorellior: ScreamingHangover: Now, if you want to stick your head in the sand, that's your business. But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.

Why are you flogging this particular hobbyhorse? What's your point, and how is it relevant to a discussion in 2013?


As per my original post: it explains why old conservatives tend to associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm just pointing out that allowing  Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.
 
2013-06-20 03:02:15 PM
Via the mouseover in yesterday's XKCD:

"Unfortunately, the notion of marriage which prevails...at the present time...regards the institution as simply a convenient arrangement or formal contract...this disregard for the sanctity of marriage and contempt for its restrictions is one of the most alarming tendencies of the present age  --  John Harvey Kellogg, Ladies' guide in Health and Disease (1883)"
 
2013-06-20 03:02:39 PM
I like how the anti-gay stance in this thread is stuck with intentional misreadings and "something upsetting happened once 30 years ago".
 
2013-06-20 03:03:02 PM
 
2013-06-20 03:07:18 PM

ScreamingHangover: Yes. because we all know New York's gay population is marginal.


I said a herp, derp, the herpie, the herpie to the herp herp derp and you don't stop, to rock it to the whar whargarbl, say up jumped the garbl to the rhythm of the garbl-dy beat.
Now, what you hear is not a test, I'm derpin' to the beat!
 
2013-06-20 03:07:49 PM
I've been "gay" married for a year and I haven't raped a child yet.
 
2013-06-20 03:08:06 PM
Sure, we lose Gandolfini, but this fat useless fark stays alive.  Makes sense.

However if there are two things Rush Limbaugh knows about, and there are probably ONLY two, they are pedophilia and ruined marriages.
 
2013-06-20 03:11:35 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover:


You done got yourself trolled there son...I reckon he got you good...
 
2013-06-20 03:16:22 PM

Uzzah: ScreamingHangover: Yes. because we all know New York's gay population is marginal.

I said a herp, derp, the herpie, the herpie to the herp herp derp and you don't stop, to rock it to the whar whargarbl, say up jumped the garbl to the rhythm of the garbl-dy beat.
Now, what you hear is not a test, I'm derpin' to the beat!


HA! That was awesome!  When I first saw that I thought to myself, "Wouldn't that be awesome if he did that to Baw-wit-da-baw (sp?)?"  And it was!  Hooray!  +2 internets to you.
 
2013-06-20 03:18:49 PM

ScreamingHangover: As per my original post: it explains why old conservatives tend to associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm just pointing out that allowing Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.


Interesting.  And I suppose Old Conservatives tend to associate the Catholic church with pedophile rape, what with them allowing and covering it up for hundreds of years including much more recently than the 80s.  And Old Conservatives tend to associate the Republican party with racism, what with their courting of racists, including into the 80s.

No, Conservatives tend to associate homosexuality to pedophilia because they are attempting to court religious conservatives, who hate gays, "Because the Bible said so."  But hating gays simply because, "The Bible said so," isn't really looked upon with favor in the civilized parts of the U.S.  So they have to muddy the waters by associating gays with two, sometimes three, separate taboo out-groups in the hopes of smearing them by associating, those groups being NAMBLA, animal fauckers and polygamists.  Or, I suppose you're going to show how Conservatives just tend to associate gays with animals fauckers and polygamists by pointing to the inclusion of the Mormon Animal Faucker floats in the N.Y. pride parade as well.
 
2013-06-20 03:22:31 PM

theorellior: ScreamingHangover: So there's a 10-15 year gap between Nambla's participation and these organization's condemnation.

I guess there's a reason you keep flogging this hobby-horse, but I don't think it's working the way you intended it.


You know how when a minister or politician really loudly decries homosexuality and actively campaigns to deny civil rights to gay people? And you know that it's just a matter of time that he's caught with a male prostitute?

Yep.
 
2013-06-20 03:23:11 PM

Uzzah: ScreamingHangover: Yes. because we all know New York's gay population is marginal.

I said a herp, derp, the herpie, the herpie to the herp herp derp and you don't stop, to rock it to the whar whargarbl, say up jumped the garbl to the rhythm of the garbl-dy beat.
Now, what you hear is not a test, I'm derpin' to the beat!


As a man that has Rapper's Delight memorized since 1984, I found this quite amusing. +100 Bonus Zenny points for you!
 
2013-06-20 03:31:21 PM
What about straight pedos? Just because you like kids doesn't mean you're only into kids of the same sex.
 
2013-06-20 03:31:25 PM
Rush wasn't associating homosexuality to pediphile rape.

The article's headline as well as the subby's is way off base and misleading to say the least..

Half of the posts in this thread have thier head up thier ass.   What Limbaugh did was claim that changing the language of the discussion can sway public acceptance of an idea.

Just as many people who were once against gay marraige came to accept it, he claims because the language about it changed.

Rush then said that there are groups that are trying to normalize pediphile and doing so by addressing it as an alternative life style and change the language of the discussion to sway people.

You can agree with him, disagree, i don't farking care but claiming Rush Limbaugh is linking homosexaul marraige to pediphile rape is welll, you're either lying or ignorant.
 
2013-06-20 03:38:16 PM
Limbaugh's just fishing for ratings as usual.  I wonder if this fat hypocrite actually believes any of his drivel any more?

By the way, how are your sponsors these days, Rush?
 
2013-06-20 03:43:02 PM
Rush Limbaugh says gay people marrying Rush Limbaugh will lead to acceptance of pedophilia and destroy 'traditional marriage.'  None of his 4 wives available for comment.

FTFY
 
2013-06-20 03:44:45 PM
I can understand why he would be opposed to an "acceptance of pedophelia"--it's a pocketbook issue for him, given that it could increase the competition and pricing for renting the hottest and youngest Dominican boys.
 
2013-06-20 03:45:09 PM

gshepnyc: It's because they have just enough self-awareness to fear what they themselves would do in a a world where they were free to let up on their own breaks just a little bit. I honestly don't think you make a life (or certainly a career) out of being "conservative" on every goddamn issue unless you are repressing something about yourself that haunts you a great deal and you desperately need the weight of society to help you keep the monsters caged.


That's one of my biggest beefs with conservatives - that EVERY viewpoint must follow some master plan or golden playbook.  It was weird being a Christian and hearing my friends and family say they followed everything the Republicans believed in.  If Man cannot be perfect, how can a political party or man-made ideology be perfect?
 
2013-06-20 03:45:43 PM

FatherChaos: By the way, how are your sponsors these days, Rush?


All two of them.

img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 03:48:10 PM
 
2013-06-20 03:49:22 PM

2 grams: but claiming Rush Limbaugh is linking homosexaul marraige to pediphile rape is welll, you're either lying or ignorant.


I'm so sorry. Your post was well-reasoned and thought-out, but I read that as "homosex maul" and couldn't help but picture a giant, wooden-handled metal phallus with spikes on. I swear I couldn't stop giggling for 10 minutes.
 
2013-06-20 03:49:35 PM

2 grams: You can agree with him, disagree, i don't farking care but claiming Rush Limbaugh is linking homosexaul marraige to pediphile rape is welll, you're either lying or ignorant.


Save yourself some typing, Rush Limbaugh is not going to sleep with you.

/ Unless you're a Dominican boy
 
2013-06-20 03:49:59 PM

meat0918: Why is it the loudest defenders of "traditional marriage" are the ones with the most ex-wives?


Sometimes that beard needs extra maintenance.
 
2013-06-20 03:50:51 PM
Rush Limbaugh doesn't get paid to make sense.
 
2013-06-20 03:54:36 PM

mayIFark: Subby, since none of his 4 wives were available for comment, you could ask Dominican republic boys about it. I'm sure some of them will be happy.


Is this a real thing or a "Glenn Beck yadda yadda 1990 yadda yadda" thing?
 
2013-06-20 03:55:33 PM

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Rush Limbaugh doesn't get paid to make sense.


To be fair,  making sense doesn't pay very well these days.
 
2013-06-20 03:58:23 PM
 
2013-06-20 04:02:20 PM

rwhamann: mayIFark: Subby, since none of his 4 wives were available for comment, you could ask Dominican republic boys about it. I'm sure some of them will be happy.

Is this a real thing or a "Glenn Beck yadda yadda 1990 yadda yadda" thing?


Rush arrested returning from the Dominican Republic, carrying Viagra in someone else's name.  Lots of suspicion that he went there to screw children, but AFAIK, no proof.
 
2013-06-20 04:03:40 PM

rwhamann: mayIFark: Subby, since none of his 4 wives were available for comment, you could ask Dominican republic boys about it. I'm sure some of them will be happy.

Is this a real thing or a "Glenn Beck yadda yadda 1990 yadda yadda" thing?


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 04:03:41 PM

Cythraul: ManateeGag: why can't this fat fark just die of a heart attack already.

Probably that contract he signed with Satan. I think he has another 20 years, at least.


img.fark.net
Come on, even he has standards.
 
2013-06-20 04:11:17 PM

Gergesa: If we let gay people get married then what is to stop Jabba the Hutt from marrying an Ewok?  It will be the end for traditional Huttese marriages(whatever those are.)


One male Hutt, one female Hutt, and a slave girl in which to implant the larva.
 
hej
2013-06-20 04:11:47 PM

codergirl42: I've been "gay" married for a year and I haven't raped a child yet.


But you can't pretend like the temptation isn't there.
 
2013-06-20 04:14:04 PM
What a jester that man is.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 04:16:19 PM

flondrix: Gergesa: If we let gay people get married then what is to stop Jabba the Hutt from marrying an Ewok?  It will be the end for traditional Huttese marriages(whatever those are.)

One male Hutt, one female Hutt, and a slave girl in which to implant the larva.


Just keep the Mandalorians away from the booze, let me tell you!
 
2013-06-20 04:19:47 PM

ScreamingHangover: But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.


OK, I'll bite.

Assuming your "facts" (as full of contrariness of your own sources as to any unanimous or even majority embrace by "the gay community" there was of NAMBLA for a short period of time in the history of the movement)...

What's your  point?

That an idea, once held, can never be rejected?

That there cannot be legitimate differences of opinion within a group of people?  That if held by a few it is held by all?

That repugnant ideas once held, certainly by many people now long dead, persist and stain those that come after them, regardless of whether those new persons ever held such an idea, at all?

I mean, seriously, what are you getting at, here?

Because it doesn't make much sense on its face.
 
2013-06-20 04:24:51 PM

codergirl42: I've been "gay" married for a year and I haven't raped a child yet.


According to Rush that was supposed to happen at your bachelors party.

I am not even sure if you are really married if that didn't happen. You might wanna check your local ordinances.

How many traditional marriages have you destroyed in the last year?

In fact I am really doubting your commitment to the "gay agenda" (or as the republicans know it Sparkle Motion.)
 
2013-06-20 04:35:15 PM

Deucednuisance: ScreamingHangover: But if you're going to keep playing dumb and insist I provide more and more facts that you then choose to ignore, please stop wasting my time.

OK, I'll bite.

Assuming your "facts" (as full of contrariness of your own sources as to any unanimous or even majority embrace by "the gay community" there was of NAMBLA for a short period of time in the history of the movement)...

What's your  point?

That an idea, once held, can never be rejected?

That there cannot be legitimate differences of opinion within a group of people?  That if held by a few it is held by all?

That repugnant ideas once held, certainly by many people now long dead, persist and stain those that come after them, regardless of whether those new persons ever held such an idea, at all?

I mean, seriously, what are you getting at, here?

Because it doesn't make much sense on its face.


To reiterate:


As per my original post: it explains why old conservatives tend to associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm just pointing out that allowing  Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.
 
2013-06-20 04:41:51 PM

ScreamingHangover: I'm just pointing out that allowing  Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.


Ok, but usually when people use the phrase "may have had something to do with it", it's a sarcastic understatement. So are you saying that that's the whole reason or that it's only part of the reason (then what is the rest of the reason)?
 
2013-06-20 05:01:10 PM
Whitman00: Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

Came here for the legal Beastiality - now leaving thoroughly satisfied.....just horsing around.
 
2013-06-20 05:05:24 PM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


Sure, but when I leave a few bills on the dresser as I leave... suddenly I'm the criminal!

/"freeze, buddy. I'm a cop!"
 
2013-06-20 05:09:21 PM

Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.


Not always.  Sometimes they think about raping animals too.
 
2013-06-20 05:12:15 PM

ScreamingHangover: As per my original post: it explains why old conservatives tend to associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm just pointing out that allowing  Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.


To what end?

What's the point of making the observation (lacking as it does much sound foundation, and please don't go there, it's been dealt with) what behavior do you think it explains?

That a few old guys don't know the difference between anecdote and data?

And since homosexuality and pedophilia have long been (largely falsely) linked, your point (such as it is) seems puny and smacks of axe-grinding.
 
2013-06-20 05:13:15 PM

Ilmarinen: ScreamingHangover: I'm just pointing out that allowing  Nambla to openly participate in the largest gay pride parade in the country back in the 80's may have had something to do with it.

Ok, but usually when people use the phrase "may have had something to do with it", it's a sarcastic understatement. So are you saying that that's the whole reason or that it's only part of the reason (then what is the rest of the reason)?


I'm not saying it's the whole reason, nor am I saying it's only part of the reason. I'm simply saying that there are events in the past that support/reinforce the view that there is a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia.

Note that I have not stated there is a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, I do not believe there is. However, others on this board seem to be under the impression that any attempt to associate homosexuals and pedophiles is some type of pure conservative fiction. However, as shown, in the past, there have been relationships between the two groups (albeit tentative and strained).

That being said, I am enjoying how - once this relationship was pointed out- various members of this message board started acting like Penn State fans.
 
2013-06-20 05:13:18 PM

IamTomJoad: codergirl42: I've been "gay" married for a year and I haven't raped a child yet.

According to Rush that was supposed to happen at your bachelors party.

I am not even sure if you are really married if that didn't happen. You might wanna check your local ordinances.

How many traditional marriages have you destroyed in the last year?

In fact I am really doubting your commitment to the "gay agenda" (or as the republicans know it Sparkle Motion.)


We Thought The Marriage Destruction Ritual Involved Turtles So Maybe We Did Something Wrong.
 
2013-06-20 05:18:13 PM
And I want to point out the movement of the goalposts from "accepted by the Gay Community" to "allowed to march a few times in one city", while somehow continuing to  claim that that is a major factor in forming opinion within a nationwide party.

Have you never been to `Frisco?  New York is peanuts, in terms of a Pride Parade.  Hell, come to DC.  Entire blocks of downtown get blocked off.

What some old farts saw in the Big Apple thirty years ago don't amount to a hill of beans.

It's just the same old fear that it ever was.
 
2013-06-20 05:19:33 PM
THE WHOLE LGBT COMMUNITY EMBRACED NAMBLA BACK IN THE 80S! GAY PEOPLE = PEDOPHILES!

What do you mean the entire Republican Party embraced the Southern Strategy post Civil Rights Act? That's wrong and offensive! You're the real racist!
 
2013-06-20 05:26:21 PM

Cythraul: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

This isn't 4chan.


School is out for summer break.
 
2013-06-20 05:34:47 PM
Rush Limbaugh also said "Hey Obama, the American people want jobs, not health care reform", completely ignoring how the Republican party has spend 5+years filibustering and fighting every attempt to do anything about the recession because "The number-one job is to make Obama a one-term president" -Mitch McConnell, and ignoring how Romneycare was thought up by Republicans in the 90's, installed in Massachusetts by Romney (with absolutely no complaints), and wasn't thought about one bit until Obama liked it enough to make it national (which Romney wanted to do as well) and the right went absolutely berserk about it to the point where Romney promised to destroy Romneycare when he was elected... then put it right back up again, but it would be good and holy because a white Republican did it.

And let's not forget how Rush and the right outright lie and falsify everything involving the recession, job growth and loss, and Romneycare (especially Romneycare) for the purpose of demonizing Obama and the left. Republicans are no longer for the country, they're for themselves and anyone who isn't one of them be damned. They'll destroy the country out of spite and hate if they get half a chance.
 
2013-06-20 05:38:52 PM
Of course, he's talking out his ass again...because there is no connection
 
2013-06-20 05:40:26 PM

BMFPitt: Tommy Moo: The slippery slope argument should never be used by anyone, not even to advocate for what you or I might agree is the "right" side. It is fundamentally flawed logic. Every step deserves to be judged on its own merits. We're trying to climb to the top of Mt. Moral. If the peak is 50 feet in front of us, we should walk 50 feet. The fact that 70 feet is too far doesn't eliminate the fact that where we are isn't far enough.

There are plenty of occasions when the slope is actually quite slippery.


That's because of all the astro-glide
 
2013-06-20 05:40:56 PM

ScreamingHangover: As per my original post: it explains why old conservatives tend to associate homosexuality with pedophilia.


That's a long, elaborate explanation for something that is much more likely explained by sheer ignorance and stupidity.
 
2013-06-20 05:42:24 PM
And as a slight aside, why does Sean Hannity have a song about a woman immolating herself alive to escape her abusive husband as his "TO ARMS, AMERICA! DECLARE WAR AGAINST YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS!" battle cry?
 
2013-06-20 05:52:41 PM

ManateeGag: why can't this fat fark just die of a heart attack already.


I know! We lose James Gandolfini, a man INFINITELY more desirable and useful to have in the world that farking Limpbaugh, and yet with all the food and drugs, that idiot asshole is STILL ALIVE!
 
2013-06-20 06:14:27 PM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.
 
2013-06-20 06:21:01 PM

Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.


You need a better concept of comparisons.
 
2013-06-20 06:23:19 PM

Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.


You fark your food? Guess it is cheaper than buying mayonnaise.
 
2013-06-20 06:27:52 PM

BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.


Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

I'm not arguing for bestiality, but I am calling into question the idea that "consent" is the right logical course of argumentation to take.
 
2013-06-20 06:33:31 PM
To paraphrase what Colbert said about Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh has had twice as many wives as both Mormons in the 2012 GOP Primaries combined!


Arkanaut: Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.

Hold on, they'll be getting around to that part.


FloydA: Only untiless he died without a male heir. After that, his brother owned her long enough to generate said heir.


/FT4Y

joeshill: Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wifes.

FTFY

Ex 21:10 If he take him another wife....
De 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated....


I'll see you those and raise you II Samuel 12:8, in which the LORD God Himself, through His Prophet Nathan (the one who anointed David as King), point-blank told David that He Himself personally gave David the wives of his former master King Saul unto his bosom.
 
2013-06-20 07:03:21 PM

Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

I'm not arguing for bestiality, but I am calling into question the idea that "consent" is the right logical course of argumentation to take.


Ah, so you're from PETA.

There's a difference between eating an animal and farking an animal. Just like there's a difference between CONSENSUAL HUMAN BEINGS getting together and a human farking an animal.

And if we're going to talk "consent to being killed and devoured", you better go out and tell those mean and evil carnivores to stop that meaniness and ask for their prey's consent.
 
2013-06-20 07:03:33 PM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


Are chickens capable of consenting to... uh, "relations"?

Because I've never heard of a chicken-human hybrid, which means all those episodes of chicken-human "relations" must have been legitimate rape.

I'm just asking.  For a friend.
 
2013-06-20 07:36:06 PM

ManateeGag: why can't this fat fark just die of a heart attack already.


I'm glad it only took to post number two to break out the fat joke.  On Michael Moore threads it usually takes until the fifth comment. This proves Fark's librul bias.
 
2013-06-20 08:04:14 PM

jaytkay: Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

Not the whole community.

Just the closeted Republicans.


At the Gay Pride parade in NYC, they were allowed to have their own float in the parade.  This was some years back and the local media made sure to get pictures of them to publish in the local papers.  I'm guessing the parade organizers realized it made them (all gays) look bad to continue allowing them (NAMBLA) so they stopped allowing them in the parade.
 
2013-06-20 08:10:35 PM
Do you think he ever thinks about how many families and lives he has ruined by spreading this poisonous lie? I wonder how many gay teens have killed themselves because their parents believed Rush, heart and soul, and abused or shunned subsequently?

Tell me, Rush, what do you think your body count is, you slimy pile of shiat?
 
2013-06-20 08:11:35 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?


Having their own float in the Gay Pride parade would be an indication of that.
www.biblestudysite.com

May not be true today, but they do have some skeletons in their closet.
 
2013-06-20 08:17:52 PM

FloydA: Cythraul:

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.

They never really had much support, and there was active opposition to including them right from the beginning.  GLAAD didn't make an official statement about NAMBLA until 1994, so I suppose that's what  ScreamingHangover is referring to as "acceptance."


So until 1994 GLADD was doing this in regards to them.
t0.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-20 08:24:16 PM

Latinwolf: May not be true today, but they do have some skeletons in their closet.


And that's the big difference between the gay community, and a moral authority like the Catholic Church.

The gay community rose up and expelled NAMBLA from its attempts to associate. The reason it's not true today is because gay people put an end to it.

The moral authority, on the other hand, moved its army of predators around and kept them hidden. The reason it's still true today is because the leadership didn't do a thing.
 
2013-06-20 08:39:58 PM

Lutrasimilis: Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

It wasn't. But conservatives are still trying to find an equalizer for the whole Catholic sex abuse thing, so they pretend that was the case.


Lutrasimilis: In this instance, the LGBT community is a person called Harry Hay. And he didn't even support NAMBLA, he just said it seemed hypocritical of the gay community to utterly reject them the way that it had since their inception.


Lutrasimilis: You might as well claim that Christians support child molestation because fundamentalist Mormons believe they have the right to underage spirit brides.

Deal with it. That's how facts work.


Lutrasimilis: And that's the big difference between the gay community, and a moral authority like the Catholic Church.

The gay community rose up and expelled NAMBLA from its attempts to associate. The reason it's not true today is because gay people put an end to it.


I like how you started out with a categorical denial.
....then claimed it was a few fringe examples,
...then pointed the finger at someone else.
... and now admit Nambla was a part of the community.


You're still in denial about a whole decade of participation, but at least progress is being made.
 
2013-06-20 08:58:11 PM

Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?


Where to start?  For one, food animals are not the same as pets or (ugh) hump animals typically.  For another thing, killing an animal humanely is not the same thing as ass farking one for funsies.  Causing an animal pain for your own pleasure is sadistic behavior.  Humanely killing an animal to make into food, or clothing or what have you is acceptable even if people don't want to think about the details.  Penetrating an animal that is not built for it is not significantly removed from tying fire crackers to a cat's tail.

Mostly, it's that you are not making a fair comparison.  Even a 7th level vegan is going to be OK with me wanting to eat a red onion.  maybe I even really dig red onions, to the point where I eat them on everything all the time.  Maybe I even evangelize to my friends and co workers how awesome red onion is.  Sure that would get me some eyerolls, maybe an unflattering nickname or two, but that's about as far as it goes.

If I wandered around talking about how I just love to dig holes in a red onion to fark it hard, and if I don't have knife, I just slap an onion with my cock, and boy you have no idea what sexy is until you see your load dripping down the side of an onion bulb; I would be (rightly) drummed from normal society.
 
2013-06-20 09:19:10 PM

BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

Where to start?  For one, food animals are not the same as pets or (ugh) hump animals typically.  For another thing, killing an animal humanely is not the same thing as ass farking one for funsies.  Causing an animal pain for your own pleasure is sadistic behavior.  Humanely killing an animal to make into food, or clothing or what have you is acceptable even if people don't want to think about the details.  Penetrating an animal that is not built for it is not significantly removed from tying fire crackers to a cat's tail.

Mostly, it's that you are not making a fair comparison.  Even a 7th level vegan is going to be OK with me wanting to eat a red onion.  maybe I even really dig red onions, to the point where I eat them on everything all the time.  Maybe I even evangelize to my friends and co workers how awesome red onion is.  Sure that would get me some eyerolls, maybe an unflattering nickname or two, but that's about as far as it goes.

If I wandered around talking about how I just love to dig holes in a red onion to fark it hard, and if I don't have knife, I just slap an onion with my cock, and boy you have no idea what sexy is until you see your load dripping down the side of an onion bulb; I would be (rightly) drummed from normal society.


By the way, rubbing your junk with a stainless steel soap bar (e.g. the Amco Rub-A-Way Bar) gets rid of that onion smell.  Also removes fishy odors.

img.fark.net

Washing "down there" with table salt or baking soda also works.

Uh... that's I've been told... by a friend.  Yeah, a friend.
 
2013-06-20 09:21:54 PM

Parthenogenetic: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

Where to start?  For one, food animals are not the same as pets or (ugh) hump animals typically.  For another thing, killing an animal humanely is not the same thing as ass farking one for funsies.  Causing an animal pain for your own pleasure is sadistic behavior.  Humanely killing an animal to make into food, or clothing or what have you is acceptable even if people don't want to think about the details.  Penetrating an animal that is not built for it is not significantly removed from tying fire crackers to a cat's tail.

Mostly, it's that you are not making a fair comparison.  Even a 7th level vegan is going to be OK with me wanting to eat a red onion.  maybe I even really dig red onions, to the point where I eat them on everything all the time.  Maybe I even evangelize to my friends and co workers how awesome red onion is.  Sure that would get me some eyerolls, maybe an unflattering nickname or two, but that's about as far as it goes.

If I wandered around talking about how I just love to dig holes in a red onion to fark it hard, and if I don't have knife, I just slap an onion with my cock, and boy you have no idea what sexy is until you see your load dripping down the side of an onion bulb; I would be (rightly) drummed from normal society.

By the way, rubbing your junk with a stainless steel soap bar (e.g. the Amco Rub-A-Way Bar) gets rid of that onion smell.  Also removes fishy odors.

[img.fark.net image 500x465]

Washing "down there" with table salt or baking soda also works.

Uh... that's I'v ...


COPY-->PASTE-->Save As....
 
2013-06-20 09:32:52 PM

BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

Where to start?  For one, food animals are not the same as pets or (ugh) hump animals typically.  For another thing, killing an animal humanely is not the same thing as ass farking one for funsies.  Causing an animal pain for your own pleasure is sadistic behavior.  Humanely killing an animal to make into food, or clothing or what have you is acceptable even if people don't want to think about the details.  Penetrating an animal that is not built for it is not significantly removed from tying fire crackers to a cat's tail.

Mostly, it's that you are not making a fair comparison.  Even a 7th level vegan is going to be OK with me wanting to eat a red onion.  maybe I even really dig red onions, to the point where I eat them on everything all the time.  Maybe I even evangelize to my friends and co workers how awesome red onion is.  Sure that would get me some eyerolls, maybe an unflattering nickname or two, but that's about as far as it goes.

If I wandered around talking about how I just love to dig holes in a red onion to fark it hard, and if I don't have knife, I just slap an onion with my cock, and boy you have no idea what sexy is until you see your load dripping down the side of an onion bulb; I would be (rightly) drummed from normal society.


All I was saying was that the "consent" argument was terribly reasoned.  We don't ask animals to consent to anything else, so it must be something else about farking them that we find a problem with.  You hit on the idea that it was basically animal abuse - just as we would find someone criminally liable for beating their dog, farking them is similarly off the table.

That's all I really wanted to get at.
 
2013-06-20 09:42:45 PM

Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

RTFA: The 80's. They openly participated in LGBT events. As I said, it wasn't until the mid -90s that the LGBT community threw them under the bus and whitewashed the whole thing

Even if what you say is true, you should narrow your accusations down a little. What is the 'LGBT community' in this instance? I'm a member of the LGBT community, and I, and anyone else I know in the LGBT community sure as hell would never support NAMBLA.


What he says isn't even remotely true. In the 70's, a gay activist named Harry Hay insisted NAMBLA be included in the gay pride parade in NY, and they were, until the early 80's, when other gay activists began to object. Harry Hay protested loudly and continued to support NAMBLA into the mid and late 80's, but he was shunned by the rest of the gay community as a whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hay
 
2013-06-20 09:43:55 PM

ScreamingHangover: I like how you started out with a categorical denial.
....then claimed it was a few fringe examples,
...then pointed the finger at someone else.
... and now admit Nambla was a part of the community.


You're still in denial about a whole decade of participation, but at least progress is being made.


You started out with:

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

For one, it's a weak rationalization to begin with, since it's unlikely that any of these bigoted conservatives are actually familiar enough with gay pride rallies to know who actually attended. They're more likely just throwing out these accusations out of general idiocy and bigotry, as with their delusional rants about bestiality. Just apply Occam's Razor rather than coming up with some convoluted explanation based on what you think they "remember".

Second, a brief period of attendance at pride events is a very, very weak criterion for "active and accepted part of the LGBT community", since (as per your own link) they were opposed by many prominent LGBT leaders and organizations right from the start.

In other words, the only way your argument can be sustained is if we dilute the meaning of words like "accepted" to near-meaninglessness.
 
2013-06-20 09:46:02 PM

FloydA: Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.

Only until he died.  After that, his brother owned her.


Oh lordy, if my husband died and they told me I was now the property/spouse of his mouth breathing, furry man-titted aspie brother, I would hang myself.
 
2013-06-20 09:52:57 PM

2 grams: Rush wasn't associating homosexuality to pediphile rape.

The article's headline as well as the subby's is way off base and misleading to say the least..

Half of the posts in this thread have thier head up thier ass.   What Limbaugh did was claim that changing the language of the discussion can sway public acceptance of an idea.

Just as many people who were once against gay marraige came to accept it, he claims because the language about it changed.

Rush then said that there are groups that are trying to normalize pediphile and doing so by addressing it as an alternative life style and change the language of the discussion to sway people.

You can agree with him, disagree, i don't farking care but claiming Rush Limbaugh is linking homosexaul marraige to pediphile rape is welll, you're either lying or ignorant.


No, the liar is you. Rush is claiming that "liberals" are trying to "normalize" pedophilia and they're doing it the same way they normalized gay marriage, by changing the language. (Never mind that this isn't even happening, but whatever).
(That's how all movements are done, by the way. It's one one side calls it "Pro Life" and the other calls it "Pro Choice". Language matters).
So why didn't Rush say that women voting and owning property was once unthinkable, just as legalized pedophilia is unthinkable now? Well, because he's not trying to establish a link between those two things in anyone's minds, and he can't publicly admit that he's opposed to women voting and owning property either. But he is, however, trying to establish a link between homosexuality (which he calls "gay marriage", but let's not kid ourselves) and pedophilia. And he does it because he thinks if he and Ben Cason and Rick Santorum and Pat Robertson and Michelle Bachman and every other social conservative  constantly say "gay" and "pedophile" in the same sentence, people will establish that link.
And apparently some people are falling for it.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:57 PM

codergirl42: IamTomJoad: codergirl42: I've been "gay" married for a year and I haven't raped a child yet.

According to Rush that was supposed to happen at your bachelors party.

I am not even sure if you are really married if that didn't happen. You might wanna check your local ordinances.

How many traditional marriages have you destroyed in the last year?

In fact I am really doubting your commitment to the "gay agenda" (or as the republicans know it Sparkle Motion.)

We Thought The Marriage Destruction Ritual Involved Turtles So Maybe We Did Something Wrong.


THE TURTLES!?!?

My god don't you even read the newsletters?

It clearly states in section 32 paragraph 7 and I quote "specific animals will be used for specific marriage destruction"

But I will be keeping an eye on Mitch McConnell's marriage viability.

I am almost afraid to ask if you are sure you kept only your left sock on as you hopped around the smoldering ashes of the flag, a portrait of Regan and two copies from Ayan Rand. If not I suggest reporting to re-education camp on Fire Island July 5-7.

Brunch is included
 
2013-06-20 10:00:18 PM

Even With A Chainsaw: BSABSVR: Even With A Chainsaw: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality Hamburgers - NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

FTFY

You need a better argument against bestiality.

You need a better concept of comparisons.

Howso?  Murder of a non-consenting animal is ok, but rape is not?

I'm not arguing for bestiality, but I am calling into question the idea that "consent" is the right logical course of argumentation to take.


We don't allow inhumane treatment of animals, even if we do kill and eat them on the regular. Most people consider farking a sheep to be inhumane to the sheep.
Frankly, I don't care that much about animals or their rights, though I would be very squicked out if a dude told me he farked sheep.
 
2013-06-20 10:04:39 PM

Latinwolf: Cythraul: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

Having their own float in the Gay Pride parade would be an indication of that.
[www.biblestudysite.com image 393x285]

May not be true today, but they do have some skeletons in their closet.


And? Your point? Should we scan the signs at the latest Tea Party rally and then declare that that is what all Republicans believe?
 In the 70's when the gay rights movement was in it's infancy, there were radicals who thought any restrictions on sex was wrong. There's really no way of telling how many there were, or even how many of those marching even knew what NAMBLA was. In 1980, lesbian groups began protesting NAMBLA's inclusion in gay pride parades, and they were banned by 1981.
 
2013-06-20 10:10:44 PM

ScreamingHangover: Lutrasimilis: Cythraul: When in the blue fark was NAMBLA an 'accepted' part of the LGBT community?

It wasn't. But conservatives are still trying to find an equalizer for the whole Catholic sex abuse thing, so they pretend that was the case.

Lutrasimilis: In this instance, the LGBT community is a person called Harry Hay. And he didn't even support NAMBLA, he just said it seemed hypocritical of the gay community to utterly reject them the way that it had since their inception.

Lutrasimilis: You might as well claim that Christians support child molestation because fundamentalist Mormons believe they have the right to underage spirit brides.

Deal with it. That's how facts work.

Lutrasimilis: And that's the big difference between the gay community, and a moral authority like the Catholic Church.

The gay community rose up and expelled NAMBLA from its attempts to associate. The reason it's not true today is because gay people put an end to it.

I like how you started out with a categorical denial.
....then claimed it was a few fringe examples,
...then pointed the finger at someone else.
... and now admit Nambla was a part of the community.


You're still in denial about a whole decade of participation, but at least progress is being made.


Legitimate question.

Is this perhaps your premiss for your psych/sociology thesis?

You seem really invested in trying to give cover for bigoted ideas by pointing out events that took place one day a year some 20 years ago.

Was it that tramatic for you or are you postulating that it was such a breach of social norms that people that witnessed it have been permanently warped 20 years later?
 
2013-06-20 10:25:53 PM

Biological Ali: ScreamingHangover: I like how you started out with a categorical denial.
....then claimed it was a few fringe examples,
...then pointed the finger at someone else.
... and now admit Nambla was a part of the community.


You're still in denial about a whole decade of participation, but at least progress is being made.

You started out with:

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

For one, it's a weak rationalization to begin with, since it's unlikely that any of these bigoted conservatives are actually familiar enough with gay pride rallies to know who actually attended. They're more likely just throwing out these accusations out of general idiocy and bigotry, as with their delusional rants about bestiality. Just apply Occam's Razor rather than coming up with some convoluted explanation based on what you think they "remember".

Second, a brief period of attendance at pride events is a very, very weak criterion for "active and accepted part of the LGBT community", since (as per your own link) they were opposed by many prominent LGBT leaders and organizations right from the start.

In other words, the only way your argument can be sustained is if we dilute the meaning of words like "accepted" to near-meaninglessness.


I also love the idea that "older conservatives" were incredibly well-informed about the gay rights movement in the 70's and knew all the ins and outs of it,,,and then apparently went into a deep coma until a couple years ago.
 
2013-06-20 11:43:51 PM

Ed Grubermann: FTFA: There is a movement on to normalize pedophilia, and I guarantee you your reaction to that is probably much the same as your reaction when you first heard about gay marriage.

If by "much the same" you mean "completely the opposite", then yes.


The difference of course also being that the "movement on to normalize pedophilia" remains the same small group of perverts and deviates it was when it started; there is no groundswell of support for NAMBLA in the past 40 years like there was for gay rights. Nobody wants to make boy-loving legal like they wanted to make sex between consenting adults legal, and that, dear Rushbo, is the big difference between pedophilia and gay marriage.

There will never be a big acceptance of letting people do things to kids, no matter how much perverts like Rush desperately want there to be. Sorry.
 
2013-06-21 12:15:43 AM

Biological Ali: ScreamingHangover: I like how you started out with a categorical denial.
....then claimed it was a few fringe examples,
...then pointed the finger at someone else.
... and now admit Nambla was a part of the community.


You're still in denial about a whole decade of participation, but at least progress is being made.

You started out with:

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

For one, it's a weak rationalization to begin with, since it's unlikely that any of these bigoted conservatives are actually familiar enough with gay pride rallies to know who actually attended. They're more likely just throwing out these accusations out of general idiocy and bigotry, as with their delusional rants about bestiality. Just apply Occam's Razor rather than coming up with some convoluted explanation based on what you think they "remember".

Second, a brief period of attendance at pride events is a very, very weak criterion for "active and accepted part of the LGBT community", since (as per your own link) they were opposed by many prominent LGBT leaders and organizations right from the start.

In other words, the only way your argument can be sustained is if we dilute the meaning of words like "accepted" to near-meaninglessness.


How many straight people were accepting of the slave owner community back when that was legal under the constitution?
 
2013-06-21 01:02:11 AM
The only people who rail against gays are closeted and the only people who rail against equality in family are low-lifes who cannot stay married. That's how I see it.

Personal liberty should be the only talking point here. Either it exists or it doesn't, you fake farking 'conservatives'.
 
2013-06-21 01:52:55 AM
Rush Limbaugh ate a halibut so how can he be opposed to Jeffrey Dahmer eating people?
 
2013-06-21 02:02:52 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Rush Limbaugh ate a halibut so how can he be opposed to Jeffrey Dahmer eating people?


Is he?
 
2013-06-21 02:43:57 AM
Rush Limbaugh says gay people marrying will lead to acceptance of pedophilia and destroy 'traditional marriage'. None his 4 wives available for comment

I suppose none of the un-numbered Dominican "cabana boys" have anything to say either.
 
2013-06-21 04:06:17 AM
"The lardy doth protest too much, methinks."
 
2013-06-21 05:42:27 AM
Yay, slippery slope arguments!


We're cooking peanut butter brittle, Mr. White?

img.fark.net

Peanut brittle is the gateway candy, Jesse.
From brittle we move on to nougat.
He who controls the nougat
controls EVERYTHING.
 
2013-06-21 07:15:15 AM

whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.


Even if a CHILD CONSENTED ITS STILL WRONG! You sick NAMBLA freak! Your post is exactly what nambla is about, removing penalties from sex with children who "consented".

Way to prove conservatives right... You are so progressive that you already accept the feared definition of pedophilia that conservatives think will be fought for.
 
2013-06-21 07:25:52 AM

1nsanilicious: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

Even if a CHILD CONSENTED ITS STILL WRONG! You sick NAMBLA freak! Your post is exactly what nambla is about, removing penalties from sex with children who "consented".

Way to prove conservatives right... You are so progressive that you already accept the feared definition of pedophilia that conservatives think will be fought for.


The point is- legally and morally, children *cannot* consent to a sexual relationship with an adult. It is the same reason why there are statutory rape laws, even for heterosexual sex. So the slippery slope is a red herring.

It's dumb anyway. Heterosexual marriage does not and has not normalized adult men sleeping with female children. Right?
 
2013-06-21 07:28:26 AM

Corvus: Remember "Traditional Marriage" was basically a man OWNING his wife.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-21 08:23:07 AM

Eddie Barzoom: 1nsanilicious: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

Even if a CHILD CONSENTED ITS STILL WRONG! You sick NAMBLA freak! Your post is exactly what nambla is about, removing penalties from sex with children who "consented".

Way to prove conservatives right... You are so progressive that you already accept the feared definition of pedophilia that conservatives think will be fought for.

The point is- legally and morally, children *cannot* consent to a sexual relationship with an adult. It is the same reason why there are statutory rape laws, even for heterosexual sex. So the slippery slope is a red herring.

It's dumb anyway. Heterosexual marriage does not and has not normalized adult men sleeping with female children. Right?


.

You are sick
 
2013-06-21 09:12:05 AM

theorellior: Farxist: Well, at least I know which alts you use.

All of them. Fark is only me talking to myself, and your lame troll account.


Ha! Good one.

/On mobile, no funny button
 
2013-06-21 09:21:34 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Rush Limbaugh ate a halibut so how can he be opposed to Jeffrey Dahmer eating people?


Worst.
Analogy.
Evar.
 
2013-06-21 09:24:07 AM

1nsanilicious: whitman00: Two gay people- Consenting adults.

Pedophilia- NON CONSENTING CHILD
Bestiality- NON CONSENTING ANIMAL

That's why liberals accept gay relationships and gay marriage and will always be opposed to pedophilia and bestiality.

Even if a CHILD CONSENTED ITS STILL WRONG! You sick NAMBLA freak! Your post is exactly what nambla is about, removing penalties from sex with children who "consented".

Way to prove conservatives right... You are so progressive that you already accept the feared definition of pedophilia that conservatives think will be fought for.


Children cannot legally consent, your argument is invalid
 
2013-06-21 10:15:54 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: He's so boring.


I'll listen to him at lunch occasionally.  After he lost all but two of his sponsors, he would say things that were over the top offensive, and I realized He's just trying to be the conservative version of Howard Stern.  It's going over as well as the conservative version of the Daily Show.  Really sad.

Aside from that he rambles on for 20 minutes to get to part of a point which he promises to cover later.  I never have the patience to see if he ever gets around to that point.  I can't imagine anyone listening to him to make one point an hour.
 
2013-06-21 01:06:39 PM

GhostFish: Prey4reign: Why are hotel keepers so glad about same sex marriage?


Because, with them having their shiat packed all the time, patrons occupying the Honeymoon Suites will have a better chance of getting out of the hotel alive in case of a fire.

Most anal sex between heterosexuals.


Yay for Gen Y women.
 
2013-06-21 02:53:26 PM

ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.


I wish they threw 'em under the bus literally.
/all I'm saying is that we should kill all the pedos.
 
2013-06-21 05:14:27 PM

ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.


You know what's missing from that article? Actual evidence that NAMBLA  was even involved in said groups and it wasn't a load of bullshiat.

/Not everything you read on the internet is true.
//Shocking, I know.
 
2013-06-21 05:18:23 PM

Noam Chimpsky: Rush Limbaugh ate a halibut so how can he be opposed to Jeffrey Dahmer eating people?


Aren't humans considered "long pork"? So a proper (yet still retarded) analogy would be "Whoever eats pork products condones cannibalism".
 
2013-06-21 05:20:14 PM

Eddie Barzoom: It's dumb anyway. Heterosexual marriage does not and has not normalized adult men sleeping with female children. Right?


Well, there was the practice of older men marrying women as young as 12 back in olden times. And the entire betrothal process.
 
2013-06-21 05:45:39 PM

PsiChick: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

You know what's missing from that article? Actual evidence that NAMBLA  was even involved in said groups and it wasn't a load of bullshiat.

/Not everything you read on the internet is true.
//Shocking, I know.


NAMBLA was the first member of the IGLA.  However their participation in LGBT events, or even their association with gay advocacy group was strongly and consistently opposed since the beginning of the Gay Rights movement.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, and you can't immediately dismiss anything simply because it's on the internet.
 
2013-06-21 05:46:23 PM

thamike: NAMBLA was the first US based member of the IGLA.

 
2013-06-21 06:02:29 PM

thamike: thamike: NAMBLA was the first US based member of the IGLA.


Again:  Where the hell is the citation for this? I'm not dissing it because it's on the internet, I'm dissing it because  they did not actually provide proof of this.
 
2013-06-21 06:58:20 PM

PsiChick: thamike: thamike: NAMBLA was the first US based member of the IGLA.

Again:  Where the hell is the citation for this? I'm not dissing it because it's on the internet, I'm dissing it because  they did not actually provide proof of this.


Maybe they didn't, but that's not my problem.  If you wiki NAMBLA, you'll get all the citations you need.  I wasn't addressing the form, but the content.  The implication might have more nefarious than the truth, but to say "NAMBLA is a skeleton in the Gay Rights closet," I don't think the statement alone is that outrageous.  To be more fair though, the statement should be "the all but completely abandoned and defunct NAMBLA movement was initially a problematic element in the LGBT movement."  The media made the NAMBLA specter stick for longer than was needed, and moral relativists with scrambled brains like Ginsberg only exacerbated it.
 
2013-06-21 07:18:25 PM

PsiChick: ScreamingHangover: Aarontology: Man, why are all these anti-gay conservatives so obsessed with f*cking children?

It's like all they can think about. Two dudes holding hands and their minds go right to raping a child.

You'll find this mostly amongst the older conservatives: the ones who remember when Nambla was an active and accepted part of the LGBT community for over a decade, openly participating in gay pride parades and events.

The LGBT community threw Nambla under the bus in the mid-90's when they realize it was hurting the cause, but that doesn't stop the fact that Nambla members were once accepted amongst their ranks. Link

Personally, I support gay marriage. However, much like Christians (or any other group), the LGBT community also has some skeletons in the closet.

You know what's missing from that article? Actual evidence that NAMBLA  was even involved in said groups and it wasn't a load of bullshiat.

/Not everything you read on the internet is true.
//Shocking, I know.


I agree. that's why I check The New York Times (1997):


I EXPLAINED why I didn't vote for Mayor Giuliani in the last election. I look at the gay pride parade coming up the avenue and I see the gay activists and they are followed by a group from Nambla, the pedophiles. And in back of the pedophiles come, smiling brightly and waving their hands, the two aspirants to be my Mayor, Mr. Dinkins and Mr. Giuliani. I couldn't under those circumstances vote for anyone that would march in a parade with pedophiles.


There are plenty more places you can look to verify this if you only pull your head out of the sand try googling "Namla parade". FYI Nambla was the ILGA's first American member.  Citation has been provided. Deal with it.
 
2013-06-21 07:36:34 PM

ScreamingHangover: /Not everything you read on the internet is true.
//Shocking, I know.

I agree. that's why I check The New York Times (1997):


I EXPLAINED why I didn't vote for Mayor Giuliani in the last election. I look at the gay pride parade coming up the avenue and I see the gay activists and they are followed by a group from Nambla, the pedophiles. And in back of the pedophiles come, smiling brightly and waving their hands, the two aspirants to be my Mayor, Mr. Dinkins and Mr. Giuliani. I couldn't under those circumstances vote for anyone that would march in a parade with pedophiles.


There are plenty more places you can look to verify this if you only pull your head out of the sand try googling "Namla parade". FYI Nambla was the ILGA's first American member.  Citation has been provided. Deal with it.


A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.

B) Your book  still does not provide a source. It provides sources in the chapter bibliography for quite a few other points, but  not this one. Something being in  print does not make it accurate either, even if someone stuck the word 'encyclopedia' on the title.

Now, I took your advice and Googled it. Know what I find? The same wiki article and a few dozen anti-gay sites. That's it. Not even a Snopes reference (Snopes doesn't have it).

Look, if you want to make this claim that's fine, but you have to provide sources that aren't farking laughable. Not just pulling random shiat out of your ass and calling it a day.
 
2013-06-21 07:44:39 PM

PsiChick: A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.


ok... I picked another random article out of the archive search (1983):

Nambla has not been shy of attention. Men and boys representing the organization have marched down Fifth Avenue in New York in the annual Gay Pride parade, although other homosexual groups protested its presence. ''That particular name, it's almost a red flag,'' says Tim Sweeney, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Educational Fund in New York. ''It's like, 'Oh, my God!' It really sets people back.''
 
2013-06-21 07:51:53 PM

ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.

ok... I picked another random article out of the archive search (1983):

Nambla has not been shy of attention. Men and boys representing the organization have marched down Fifth Avenue in New York in the annual Gay Pride parade, although other homosexual groups protested its presence. ''That particular name, it's almost a red flag,'' says Tim Sweeney, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Educational Fund in New York. ''It's like, 'Oh, my God!' It really sets people back.''


Good, you found evidence they were in a parade, and a spokesman for a gay rights movement did not openly condemn them, only stated factual information. That does not actually mean they were members or supported by any members of the gay rights community. Can you provide evidence of  that claim?
 
2013-06-21 08:03:19 PM

PsiChick: ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.

ok... I picked another random article out of the archive search (1983):

Nambla has not been shy of attention. Men and boys representing the organization have marched down Fifth Avenue in New York in the annual Gay Pride parade, although other homosexual groups protested its presence. ''That particular name, it's almost a red flag,'' says Tim Sweeney, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Educational Fund in New York. ''It's like, 'Oh, my God!' It really sets people back.''

Good, you found evidence they were in a parade, and a spokesman for a gay rights movement did not openly condemn them, only stated factual information. That does not actually mean they were members or supported by any members of the gay rights community. Can you provide evidence of  that claim?


As per the articles, they were allowed participation in the NY Gay Pride parade from at least 1983-1997. Meanwhile, here's the author of the book you consider un-citable. Does he look like a conservative shill to you? It's got his email address, so feel free to ask him for verification.

I can't help it if you're in denial. It's apparent your mind's already set on ignoring anything I'd provide, no matter what the source. So why bother at this point?
 
2013-06-21 08:11:15 PM

ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.

ok... I picked another random article out of the archive search (1983):

Nambla has not been shy of attention. Men and boys representing the organization have marched down Fifth Avenue in New York in the annual Gay Pride parade, although other homosexual groups protested its presence. ''That particular name, it's almost a red flag,'' says Tim Sweeney, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Educational Fund in New York. ''It's like, 'Oh, my God!' It really sets people back.''

Good, you found evidence they were in a parade, and a spokesman for a gay rights movement did not openly condemn them, only stated factual information. That does not actually mean they were members or supported by any members of the gay rights community. Can you provide evidence of  that claim?

As per the articles, they were allowed participation in the NY Gay Pride parade from at least 1983-1997. Meanwhile, here's the author of the book you consider un-citable. Does he look like a conservative shill to you? It's got his email address, so feel free to ask him for verification.

I can't help it if you're in denial. It's apparent your mind's already set on ignoring anything I'd provide, no matter what the source. So why bother at this point?


A) 'allowed in a parade' could mean several hundred things. Membership is  one of them. I would like to know specifically how you know that they had membership in the general gay rights movement,your original claim.

B) Look, I'm not even clicking that link because  I do not give a f*ck about the author. They could be a purple alien from outer space wearing a sombrero and wanting to eat all of our shoes for all I care. I  only care about the sources, and this specific claim of this book was left uncited. Got it? Whoever s\he is  does not farking matter. Right, left, purple.  I do not give a f*ck.

C) 'Denial' doesn't usually mean 'knowing the difference between real sources for extravagant claims and sources that are total bullshiat'.
 
2013-06-21 08:30:13 PM

ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: ScreamingHangover: PsiChick: A) No, that's not the New York Times confirming it; that's Mary A. Cummins who led a protest against a tolerance-based school curriculum explaining what sort of power, if any, a mayor has, in an article about how important mayors are. One woman's opinion, keeping in mind that Lying For Jesus is a thing (here's a site full of examples), does not a fact make.

ok... I picked another random article out of the archive search (1983):

Nambla has not been shy of attention. Men and boys representing the organization have marched down Fifth Avenue in New York in the annual Gay Pride parade, although other homosexual groups protested its presence. ''That particular name, it's almost a red flag,'' says Tim Sweeney, executive director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Educational Fund in New York. ''It's like, 'Oh, my God!' It really sets people back.''

Good, you found evidence they were in a parade, and a spokesman for a gay rights movement did not openly condemn them, only stated factual information. That does not actually mean they were members or supported by any members of the gay rights community. Can you provide evidence of  that claim?

As per the articles, they were allowed participation in the NY Gay Pride parade from at least 1983-1997. Meanwhile, here's the author of the book you consider un-citable. Does he look like a conservative shill to you? It's got his email address, so feel free to ask him for verification.

I can't help it if you're in denial. It's apparent your mind's already set on ignoring anything I'd provide, no matter what the source. So why bother at this point?


Wait, you're actually claiming that NAMBLA marched in NY Pride Parades until 1997?! You're actually claiming that? And Guliani marched next to them? Because a religious lady said so? Holy shiat.
 
2013-06-21 08:35:06 PM
THE POINT, PEOPLE, is that homosexuality =/= pedophilia, homosexuals ARE NOT TRYING TO GET AND DO NOT WANT raping children to be a protected behavior, and Republicans are being forced to use outright lies, guilt by tenuous association, and other bullshiat to continue their attack on American citizens who, by the very principles this country was founded on, DESERVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS OF EVERY OTHER CITIZEN REGARDLESS OF WHICH CONSENTING ADULT THEY'RE ATTRACTED TO.

You can argue the importance of that boy-lover group all you want, they never have and never will speak for homosexuals and trying to say that because gays didn't immediately murder all of them they 100% endorse them is a laughable fallacy. One that old Republicans and Christians have resorted to using because they're too farking stupid and stubborn to give up their petty crusade.
 
2013-06-22 12:51:17 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Noam Chimpsky: Rush Limbaugh ate a halibut so how can he be opposed to Jeffrey Dahmer eating people?

Aren't humans considered "long pork"? So a proper (yet still retarded) analogy would be "Whoever eats pork products condones cannibalism".


First rule of analogies: When analogizing something that is utterly stupid, the analogy must be up to the task. Cleverness attempts can only fail.
 
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