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(ABC)   Two days after they approved a bill banning abortion after 20 weeks, citing America's "moral duty" to protect our most vulnerable, the House votes to cut $2 billion from the Food Stamp program   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 289
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2013-06-20 01:39:26 PM
Jesus talked about protecting the unborn all the freaking time.
Jesus said little to nothing about feeding the poor.
 
2013-06-20 01:44:15 PM
If all of those children don't get born what are the poor expected to eat?
 
2013-06-20 01:46:43 PM
FTFA: The chamber rejected 234-188 a Democratic amendment to a wide-ranging farm bill that would have maintained current spending on food stamps and cut farm subsidies instead.

Next year, we'll have to increase farm subsidies by $2 billion because gross revenue went down $2 billion for some unknown reason.
 
2013-06-20 01:46:44 PM
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If you're Pre-born, you're fine, if you're pre-school, you're farked.
 
2013-06-20 01:51:06 PM

Sybarite: If all of those children don't get born what are the poor expected to eat?


You must have read Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal ...

Due to the utter contempt the Republican Party has for the poor and women's rights, what else can you expect? Pass an unconstitutional law to ban abortion while cutting food aid to millions of Americans. Typical.
 
2013-06-20 01:51:31 PM
Id actually respect the GOP if they really worshiped the Christian god. But they aren't actually Christian, they're following much crueler gods than that.
 
2013-06-20 01:53:34 PM
Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!
 
2013-06-20 02:00:41 PM

Weaver95: Id actually respect the GOP if they really worshiped the Christian god. But they aren't actually Christian, they're following much crueler gods than that.


I'd actually respect them more if they just admitted they actually worship Mammon and Abaddon.  At least it would be honest.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:04 PM
This is a tough issue for me. Frankly, if you're too stupid to realize you're pregnant or still unable to decide whether you want to abort your baby by 20 weeks into a pregnancy, you probably should have an abortion and save us all the trouble.
 
2013-06-20 02:03:29 PM

FirstNationalBastard: [img.fark.net image 539x418]

If you're Pre-born, you're fine, if you're pre-school, you're farked.


Came to post this^.
 
2013-06-20 02:03:41 PM

FloydA: Weaver95: Id actually respect the GOP if they really worshiped the Christian god. But they aren't actually Christian, they're following much crueler gods than that.

I'd actually respect them more if they just admitted they actually worship Mammon and Abaddon.  At least it would be honest.


Yup. The republicans glorify violence, greed and lust. They have contempt for the poor, despise the weak and refuse to help the sick. Nothing in the GOP platform reflects the values of Christ. But they try and claim the moral high ground as often as they can.

I dunno. Maybe this is more clear to me than ever before due to my own focus on spirituality lately.
 
2013-06-20 02:09:15 PM

Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!


Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.
 
2013-06-20 02:10:19 PM
Of course they did... it's pretty obvious the GOP has a high level of contempt for both women and the poor.

They should be ashamed of themselves, but proudly ignorant, mean-spirited, hypocritical ideologues rarely are...
 
2013-06-20 02:14:05 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: The chamber rejected 234-188 a Democratic amendment


While everything people here are saying about the GOP are true, I'm pretty sure most of Congress voted no as soon as they heard the food stamp bill was a "Democratic Amendment". They're worse than children.
 
2013-06-20 02:15:30 PM
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I'll add:

"Conservatives want live babies so they can become dead soldiers."
 
2013-06-20 02:16:04 PM

spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.


For when all other methods of birth control fail resulting in pregnancy, abortion is the last option for birth control.
 
2013-06-20 02:17:07 PM

Weaver95: Id actually respect the GOP if they really worshiped the Christian god. But they aren't actually Christian, they're following much crueler gods than that.


There's a fella named Mammon they're terribly fond of...It's a good thing for these fine upstanding Christians that Jesus never said a word about that guy.
 
2013-06-20 02:19:34 PM
That's what Jesus would do.
 
2013-06-20 02:23:14 PM

spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.


And if you are a poor kid relaint on a public school education, where are you going to learn about safe and effective ways to NOT have kids?  The same states that are vociferous about banning abortion, by and large, also have "abstienence only" laws and policies concerning sexual education in their schools.   So the state is effectively "forcing them to breed".

The tates withthe lowest rates of teen pregnancy are those that teach about birth control.  The only time in the last 30 years when the rate of abortion decreased dramatically is when clinton vastly expanded healthcare for poor women and Children and fully funded thing like Americorps and the Earned income Tax Credit to agressively fight povery.
 
2013-06-20 02:27:54 PM

Lando Lincoln: Jesus said little to nothing about feeding the poor


Said little.  Did much.
 
2013-06-20 02:28:24 PM
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2013-06-20 02:31:54 PM

Magorn: spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.

And if you are a poor kid relaint on a public school education, where are you going to learn about safe and effective ways to NOT have kids?  The same states that are vociferous about banning abortion, by and large, also have "abstienence only" laws and policies concerning sexual education in their schools.   So the state is effectively "forcing them to breed".

The tates withthe lowest rates of teen pregnancy are those that teach about birth control.  The only time in the last 30 years when the rate of abortion decreased dramatically is when clinton vastly expanded healthcare for poor women and Children and fully funded thing like Americorps and the Earned income Tax Credit to agressively fight povery.


Hey, I don't disagree, we need to cut the problem off at the knees and eliminate the situations that cause people to pop out 20 kids in 17 different daddies in the first place, but ignorant people are going to be ignorant no matter what, and I don't think education alone is enough to combat that.
 
2013-06-20 02:32:09 PM

Weaver95: FloydA: Weaver95: Id actually respect the GOP if they really worshiped the Christian god. But they aren't actually Christian, they're following much crueler gods than that.

I'd actually respect them more if they just admitted they actually worship Mammon and Abaddon.  At least it would be honest.

Yup. The republicans glorify violence, greed and lust. They have contempt for the poor, despise the weak and refuse to help the sick. Nothing in the GOP platform reflects the values of Christ. But they try and claim the moral high ground as often as they can.

I dunno. Maybe this is more clear to me than ever before due to my own focus on spirituality lately.


I'm seeing it in a lot of places lately.  I'm (a farily poor) roman Catholic, and my wife is spritual but an "unsigned free agent", so thanks to our Son's pee-wee football coach (VERY long story)  we find ourselves attending a "non-demominational evangelical Christian church" most Sundays for our son's sake.  It has been telling to me that I have NEVER heard pro-Republican propaganda from the pulpit there, and even how infrequently I pick up that chatter from the congragants, even during last years election.  There's a growing awareness among the very devout that the GOP is not their friend-The most poltical this particular church has been since I've been going is by working for immigration reform-mostly because they are active in trying to end human trafficking, which is a common sideline for "Coyotes" who smuggle in illegal immigrants
 
2013-06-20 02:46:02 PM

spman: Magorn: spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.

And if you are a poor kid relaint on a public school education, where are you going to learn about safe and effective ways to NOT have kids?  The same states that are vociferous about banning abortion, by and large, also have "abstienence only" laws and policies concerning sexual education in their schools.   So the state is effectively "forcing them to breed".

The tates withthe lowest rates of teen pregnancy are those that teach about birth control.  The only time in the last 30 years when the rate of abortion decreased dramatically is when clinton vastly expanded healthcare for poor women and Children and fully funded thing like Americorps and the Earned income Tax Credit to agressively fight povery.

Hey, I don't disagree, we need to cut the problem off at the knees and eliminate the situations that cause people to pop out 20 kids in 17 different daddies in the first place, but ignorant people are going to be ignorant no matter what, and I don't think education alone is enough to combat that.


it happens that I used to work on the front lines of that very problem.  I worked for the PG County MD (think more of less The Wire if you;re not from around here) Court int he Family Division which encompassed the office of Child Support Enforcement  (which among other things automatically pursues the fathers of any woman whose child is recieving public assistance).  So I saw the Patholigy up close and personal for about 5 years.  But I had a co-worker there whom everybody called Momma Cheryl who explained to me that there were really two kinds of people in that situation: the Ignorant and the "Ignint".  And as she famously explained it to me:
 "Ignorant people? they just don't know, and there's no shame in that.  You teahc the Ignorant, they learn, and they ain't ignorant no more.  Now the Ignint?  They dont know and they don't WANNA know, and they damn sure ain't gonna listen to you try to tell them.   There ain't nothing you can do for the ignint but pity them."

(she was also fond of exclaiming "Free schools and stupid people, ain't it a shame?" after dealing with a particularly difficult client)

SO yeah there are those you'll never reach, but there are those you will, and you owe it to those folks to TRY and at least make avaialble to them the info they need to survive and succeed.   If they won;t take that advice? That's on them.
 
2013-06-20 02:48:47 PM
If they were cutting $2bn from the bureaucracy that deals with food stamps, I'd be "meh" about the whole deal.  Instead, this is money that I'm assuming is supposed to go straight to hungry people.

Can't get more cartoonishly villainous than that.

/GOP:  "Challenge Accepted."
 
2013-06-20 02:53:04 PM

bdub77: This is a tough issue for me. Frankly, if you're too stupid to realize you're pregnant or still unable to decide whether you want to abort your baby by 20 weeks into a pregnancy, you probably should have an abortion and save us all the trouble.


For a "wow I'm not ready to be a mother" abortion, sure.  However, the 20 weeks figure isn't selected at random.  It is in general the 2nd ultrasound event during which they can find all sorts of major fetal anomalies that can render the child unviable ex-utero and/or a threat to the health of the mother.  All that you can tell with the 8-week ultrasound is that it isn't a molar or tubal pregnancy and that there's normal embryonic development including a rudimentary body shape and heartbeat.

The GOP sells this 20 week ban as preventing people from sex-selection abortions (which are actually huge in India and China) and aborting developmentally disabled (but still viable) fetuses.  Both of which are pretty callous acts, but I don't know how common they are.  Rick Santorum's wife was asked if they wanted to abort their soon-to-be stillborn child and that set his heart permanently ablaze against abortion rights.
 
2013-06-20 02:55:20 PM

Gig103: Mitch Taylor's Bro: FTFA: The chamber rejected 234-188 a Democratic amendment

While everything people here are saying about the GOP are true, I'm pretty sure most of Congress voted no as soon as they heard the food stamp bill was a "Democratic Amendment". They're worse than children.


They're Jr. High School girls.
 
2013-06-20 03:01:30 PM
You don't really know much, do you, subby? That's OK, I'll confront your ignorance. This isn't about not protecting "our most vulnerable," as you so glibly put it. This is about enhancing the quality of life for those most vulnerable. It's about providing them with more incentive to truly savor and enjoy life.

Have you ever been to a really good restaurant, subby? I mean a really good one, not like Sizzler. I doubt it, somehow, but for a frame of reference you might understand, think of Olive Garden or Outback Steakhouse, but without the muscle t-shirts and baseball caps. Now, if you someday go to one of these classy places, what you'll notice is that the portions you get there are actually smaller than what you're used to getting. And you'll think to yourself, I'm sure, "Wait a minute. This food is costing me like four times what I normally pay, so why is my plate not heaped three levels high like they do at the Great American Buffet? What the fark is this?" And you might even start to get angry and clench your pudgy little fists into sweaty hamballs. BUT RELAX. These smaller portions are *part* of the experience.

See, what you never learned, because you lack culture, is that true enjoyment comes from *limits*. For example, let's say you have a chocolate bar. You could, as I'm sure you often do, scarf the whole thing down in one sitting. But when you do that, are you really, truly appreciating it? Savoring it? Experiencing the sensation of the chocolate on your tongue? Will it be an experience you remember, in other words, something that you could take pictures of, post to Instagram?

No. Of course it's not. You're just cramming chocolate into your mouth and forcing it down your gullet. It's disgusting, really.

But it doesn't have to be that way. Imagine, in contrast, that instead of gobbling down *all* the chocolate at once and feeling sick all afternoon, you take a few little nibbles. Just enough to touch your palate, to give you that thrilling sensation of taste exploding upon your mouth. Then you wrap up the rest and put it away for later. See, this is what chefs, real chefs, know -- that the finest things are to be tasted, not devoured. Savored, not inhaled. The small morsel that you eat now is what makes the next morsel even better.

This is what it means to be cultured, subby. To appreciate things, to value life experiences. And this is what the GOP is trying to bring to our most unfortunate citizens. See, Democrats don't respect the poor. Democrats look at them as stupid, fat pigs who just want to waddle up to the buffet and gorge themselves like senseless beasts. And, you know something? Maybe the poor *do* want that. Maybe they do. But that's only because it's all that's ever been expected of them. What the GOP is showing here is enough actual respect to say to the poor, "No. We don't want to treat you like pigs at a trough anymore. We want to nurture within you the bright flame of humanity. We want for you to see how much life has to offer, for you to learn how you might actually savor this food not just as raw sustenance, but as an amazing experience, as part of the tapestry of life. As cuisine, as art, as beauty. For even though you might not have the money to dine in the fanciest restaurants, you can still live your life with the same richness as those who do." And you know what that shows to me, subby? Do you know what that shows in the end?

True caring, that's what it shows. In the end, it's not about the GOP denying food. It's about the GOP  elevating life.
 
2013-06-20 03:02:45 PM
Yay! More Americans get to go to Heaven sooner!
 
2013-06-20 03:11:11 PM
 
2013-06-20 03:14:51 PM

spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control.



It absolutely is. It is my personal opinion that it should only be used as one of last resort but how can you claim it isn't one at all? It prevents a birth, doesn't it?
 
2013-06-20 03:14:52 PM
And the Stupid Party just keeps on giving....
 
2013-06-20 03:15:55 PM

AirForceVet: Sybarite: If all of those children don't get born what are the poor expected to eat?

You must have read Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal ...

Due to the utter contempt the Republican Party has for the poor and women's rights, what else can you expect? Pass an unconstitutional law to ban abortion while cutting food aid to millions of Americans. Typical.


This is just kicking the can down the road. No, what we need is a final solution to this 'poors' problem.
 
2013-06-20 03:16:28 PM

Serious Black: Actually, the farm bill failed in the House.


YAY!

oh, cuts weren't deep enough.

BOOO!
 
2013-06-20 03:17:09 PM
Can we at least get some damned miniature american flagS?
 
2013-06-20 03:18:31 PM

Pocket Ninja: You don't really know much, do you, subby? That's OK, I'll confront your ignorance. This isn't about not protecting "our most vulnerable," as you so glibly put it. This is about enhancing the quality of life for those most vulnerable. It's about providing them with more incentive to truly savor and enjoy life.

Have you ever been to a really good restaurant, subby? I mean a really good one, not like Sizzler. I doubt it, somehow, but for a frame of reference you might understand, think of Olive Garden or Outback Steakhouse, but without the muscle t-shirts and baseball caps.


Luckily Olive Garden respects us "True Americans" by still giving us huge portions of cheap pasta and meat.
 
2013-06-20 03:18:35 PM

Pocket Ninja: You don't really know much, do you, subby? That's OK, I'll confront your ignorance. This isn't about not protecting "our most vulnerable," as you so glibly put it. This is about enhancing the quality of life for those most vulnerable. It's about providing them with more incentive to truly savor and enjoy life.

Have you ever been to a really good restaurant, subby? I mean a really good one, not like Sizzler. I doubt it, somehow, but for a frame of reference you might understand, think of Olive Garden or Outback Steakhouse, but without the muscle t-shirts and baseball caps. Now, if you someday go to one of these classy places, what you'll notice is that the portions you get there are actually smaller than what you're used to getting. And you'll think to yourself, I'm sure, "Wait a minute. This food is costing me like four times what I normally pay, so why is my plate not heaped three levels high like they do at the Great American Buffet? What the fark is this?" And you might even start to get angry and clench your pudgy little fists into sweaty hamballs. BUT RELAX. These smaller portions are *part* of the experience.

See, what you never learned, because you lack culture, is that true enjoyment comes from *limits*. For example, let's say you have a chocolate bar. You could, as I'm sure you often do, scarf the whole thing down in one sitting. But when you do that, are you really, truly appreciating it? Savoring it? Experiencing the sensation of the chocolate on your tongue? Will it be an experience you remember, in other words, something that you could take pictures of, post to Instagram?

No. Of course it's not. You're just cramming chocolate into your mouth and forcing it down your gullet. It's disgusting, really.

But it doesn't have to be that way. Imagine, in contrast, that instead of gobbling down *all* the chocolate at once and feeling sick all afternoon, you take a few little nibbles. Just enough to touch your palate, to give you that thrilling sensation of ta ...


I love you. I really deeply and truly love you.  That was magnificent-even for you
 
2013-06-20 03:19:10 PM
So the GOP would rather cut food stamps than farm subsidies, and then of course when revenue for the Ag industry goes down we'll have to up the subsidies.

This is our modern GOP at work, using our tax dollars to enrich their hillbilly farmers while leaving the most vulnerable in our nation to not be able to afford the very food they are paying taxes towards subsidizing. farking brilliant.
 
2013-06-20 03:19:27 PM

Serious Black: Actually, the farm bill failed in the House.


Republicans voted against it because it didn't cut food stamps enough.
 
2013-06-20 03:21:56 PM
This is actually a fairly consistent position.  Women commit the sin or cause men to commit the sin of lust and need to be punish by forcing them to suffer the pain of childbirth.  The poor commit the sin of sloth and need to be lead away from their sinful ways.
 
2013-06-20 03:22:38 PM
This pretty much exemplifies most every facet of what's wrong with our government right now.  At least in terms of domestic policy.
 
2013-06-20 03:23:17 PM
Pocket Ninja: True caring, that's what it shows. In the end, it's not about the GOP denying food. It's about the GOP  elevating life.

Well stroked!  I hadn't considered the care that Republicans are showing to the poorest amongst us.  It almost brought a tear to my eye...
 
2013-06-20 03:23:42 PM

Pocket Ninja: You don't really know much, do you, subby? That's OK, I'll confront your ignorance. This isn't about not protecting "our most vulnerable," as you so glibly put it. This is about enhancing the quality of life for those most vulnerable. It's about providing them with more incentive to truly savor and enjoy life.

Have you ever been to a really good restaurant, subby? I mean a really good one, not like Sizzler. I doubt it, somehow, but for a frame of reference you might understand, think of Olive Garden or Outback Steakhouse, but without the muscle t-shirts and baseball caps. Now, if you someday go to one of these classy places, what you'll notice is that the portions you get there are actually smaller than what you're used to getting. And you'll think to yourself, I'm sure, "Wait a minute. This food is costing me like four times what I normally pay, so why is my plate not heaped three levels high like they do at the Great American Buffet? What the fark is this?" And you might even start to get angry and clench your pudgy little fists into sweaty hamballs. BUT RELAX. These smaller portions are *part* of the experience.

See, what you never learned, because you lack culture, is that true enjoyment comes from *limits*. For example, let's say you have a chocolate bar. You could, as I'm sure you often do, scarf the whole thing down in one sitting. But when you do that, are you really, truly appreciating it? Savoring it? Experiencing the sensation of the chocolate on your tongue? Will it be an experience you remember, in other words, something that you could take pictures of, post to Instagram?

No. Of course it's not. You're just cramming chocolate into your mouth and forcing it down your gullet. It's disgusting, really.

But it doesn't have to be that way. Imagine, in contrast, that instead of gobbling down *all* the chocolate at once and feeling sick all afternoon, you take a few little nibbles. Just enough to touch your palate, to give you that thrilling sensation of ta ...


Welp, thread's over.  Nicely done.
 
2013-06-20 03:24:56 PM

Cheron: This is actually a fairly consistent position.  Women commit the sin or cause men to commit the sin of lust and need to be punish by forcing them to suffer the pain of childbirth.  The poor commit the sin of sloth and need to be lead away from their sinful ways.


That's pretty twisted.
 
2013-06-20 03:26:02 PM
Congratulations, your officially despicable.
 
2013-06-20 03:26:24 PM
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOP
 
2013-06-20 03:27:03 PM
Keep them breeding,
and keep them poor.
so we have enough bodies
to fight our war.
 
2013-06-20 03:27:33 PM
Hungry people can get awful irrational. Just sayin'
 
2013-06-20 03:28:17 PM

graeth: Can we at least get some damned miniature american flagS?


Sure. They have them at Wal-Mart:
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 03:28:54 PM

spman: Cythraul: Hey! I have an idea! Let's force the poor to breed, and then refuse to prevent them from living in total poverty. Brilliant!

Force the poor to breed? Yeah, I don't have anything to say about TFA one way or another, but abortion is not a form of birth control. No one is forcing anyone to breed. If having kids is going to cause such a financial strain on you that you have to turn to food stamps, maybe you should rethink the idea of having kids until you can afford them? The whole point of social services like food stamps and welfare is to assist needy families while they are down on their luck, not to subsidize people who can't stop popping out children.


Yes, because every single crippling, life changing forever birth defect is detected before 20 weeks.  And fetuses that have life crippling defects must be born.  If you're a poor.  You should have been smarter, poor, and not gotten preggo with that deformed babby.  Stupid poor.

You moron.
 
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