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2013-06-20 09:05:27 AM  
"I don't need them poking through my books, I don't need them telling my pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit," he continued. "In fact, it's not even the government's business how much money you make. That's a part of freedom."

Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'
 
2013-06-20 09:22:42 AM  

Diogenes: Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'


Sadly this is a statement too stupid for even Steve King to make. You might want to read the Ninth Amendment sometime.
 
2013-06-20 09:23:30 AM  
Unless of course you're in his district and not reporting your full income and paying your taxes I'm sure.
 
2013-06-20 09:23:44 AM  
Like how he's advocating shifting almost the entire tax burden to the poor and middle class, as well.
 
2013-06-20 09:25:16 AM  

Diogenes: "I don't need them poking through my books, I don't need them telling my pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit," he continued. "In fact, it's not even the government's business how much money you make. That's a part of freedom."

Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'


I never considered money laundering as a facet of freedom, but I'll take it.
 
2013-06-20 09:28:31 AM  
I've been for abolishing the IRS and establishing a fair tax

*rolls eyes*
 
2013-06-20 09:30:02 AM  
Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?
 
2013-06-20 09:31:20 AM  
Tax evasion is Patriotic.
 
2013-06-20 09:31:44 AM  

Diogenes: "In fact, it's not even the government's business how much money you make. That's a part of freedom."


Wait, what? I don't have to report my income to the IRS and state treasuries? There aren't penalties for misreporting that income?

Oh, wait - Steve King. Nature's null set.
 
2013-06-20 09:33:40 AM  
MOAR WAR!  Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!

Round up them illegals and send 'em back to Mexico!

...Wharrgarbl?  We have to pay TAXES?  FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU..........

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2013-06-20 09:33:46 AM  
Having no one watch me as I steal ppl blind is freedom - 1%er
 
2013-06-20 09:34:09 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Sadly this is a statement too stupid for even Steve King to make. You might want to read the Ninth Amendment sometime.


Well, there's always the 16th: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

I wonder what that implies about the legality of "secret income".
 
2013-06-20 09:34:27 AM  
"What was your income this year?"

"That's a secret."

"Then how are we supposed to assess how much tax you owe?"

"Just trust me when I assure you I have been taxed enough already."
 
2013-06-20 09:34:35 AM  
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nyyyeeeaahhh...ever hear of the commerce clause, doc?
 
2013-06-20 09:34:40 AM  
You have to love a guy who believes government spending is evil, yet has spent the last 15 years on the government payroll.
 
2013-06-20 09:35:53 AM  

theknuckler_33: I've been for abolishing the IRS and establishing a fair tax

*rolls eyes*


I had a good time accusing people who support the FairTax (the specific bill) of supporting a universal basic income.
 
2013-06-20 09:36:11 AM  
Steve King to be audited again in 5....4.....
 
2013-06-20 09:36:18 AM  
Dear Steve,

Stop trying to blatantly conceal your income and maybe the IRS will get out of your kitchen.

Just a thought.

--Dog Welder
 
2013-06-20 09:36:21 AM  
I love that income is private, but deciding whom you can marry is part of King's "smaller government" agenda. Also, what's up with his fantasy that the IRS wants to tell his "...pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit"?

These retards always have to shoehorn Jebus into every discussion, just because it riles up the rubes.
 
2013-06-20 09:37:47 AM  
Ah yes, nobody is going to rifle through anyone's books after a national sales tax is implemented.  All those corporations will just pass the money along to Uncle Sam, no problem.

// idiot.
 
2013-06-20 09:41:21 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Also, what's up with his fantasy that the IRS wants to tell his "...pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit"?


Churches have the option (they don't have to) to be a non-profit (virtually all do).  As a non-profit, they can't advocate directly for a particular candidate/party (they can hint like a motherfarker, but not directly say it).  If a church wants to forgo non-profit status, they can say what they want - though they have to pay taxes.  King wants his cake and eat it - the church pays nothing, but can browbeat parishoners to vote for him or risk everlasting hellfire
 
2013-06-20 09:41:58 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: I love that income is private, but deciding whom you can marry is part of King's "smaller government" agenda. Also, what's up with his fantasy that the IRS wants to tell his "...pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit"?

These retards always have to shoehorn Jebus into every discussion, just because it riles up the rubes.


It's illegal for non-profit religious organizations to endorse specific candidates.  Republicans have long wanted for the megachurch Baptist preachers on their payroll to be able to tell their flock how to vote.
 
2013-06-20 09:43:00 AM  

RsquaredW: Ah yes, nobody is going to rifle through anyone's books after a national sales tax is implemented.  All those corporations will just pass the money along to Uncle Sam, no problem.

// idiot.


Hey man, corporate graft is freedom. How come you're against freedom?
 
2013-06-20 09:43:31 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Diogenes: Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'

Sadly this is a statement too stupid for even Steve King to make. You might want to read the Ninth Amendment sometime.


I hope my nit was tasty.
 
2013-06-20 09:44:11 AM  
"And I went back out and climbed back into the seat of my old bulldozer and the smoke went out the exhaust stack and my ears. And I thought, 'I'd like to get rid of the IRS.'"

Seriously? Is this some kind of inbred folksy meditation?
 
2013-06-20 09:44:35 AM  

Diogenes: "I don't need them poking through my books, I don't need them telling my pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit," he continued. "In fact, it's not even the government's business how much money you make. That's a part of freedom."

Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'


Actually, no. The authority of the government, and the limits on that authority, are, however, delineated in the Constitution. Where does it say that keeping tabs on a person's income is a legitimate government function?
 
2013-06-20 09:45:23 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Also, what's up with his fantasy that the IRS wants to tell his "...pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit"?


I don't know, but my Mom got a Fw:Fw:Fw: e-mail from a derpy friend claiming that military chaplains were being banned from using the word "Jesus". Apparently it's the claim of the month in the derposphere.
 
2013-06-20 09:45:57 AM  

DrPainMD: Where does it say that keeping tabs on a person's income is a legitimate government function?


16th Amendment
 
2013-06-20 09:46:14 AM  
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R.I.P RICHARD BACH
 
2013-06-20 09:46:40 AM  

DrPainMD: Where does it say that keeping tabs on a person's income is a legitimate government function?


The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
 
2013-06-20 09:46:47 AM  
fta "For the last 30 years, I've been for abolishing the IRS and establishing a fair tax," King said.

That's a lot of abolishing
 
2013-06-20 09:46:54 AM  
If you don't want to pay taxes, you're essentially saying you don't want a government.  If so, then get the fark out of your country, and go live in some anarchistic backwater hell-hole like Somalia.
 
2013-06-20 09:48:18 AM  
The Iowa Republican asserted that "this big brother's gotten a lot creepier than George Orwell ever thought it would get."

Oh come the fark on. This man has obviously never seen or read 1984.
 
2013-06-20 09:48:27 AM  

Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?


If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.
 
2013-06-20 09:49:15 AM  

DrPainMD: Diogenes: "I don't need them poking through my books, I don't need them telling my pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit," he continued. "In fact, it's not even the government's business how much money you make. That's a part of freedom."

Our freedoms are defined and delineated in our Constitution.  Good to know you advocate violating our Constitution, 'Representative.'

Actually, no. The authority of the government, and the limits on that authority, are, however, delineated in the Constitution. Where does it say that keeping tabs on a person's income is a legitimate government function?


Yes, I should have allowed for the absence of the IRS in the Constitution in my post.  But knowing what is owed pretty much requires knowing what you have that is taxable.
 
2013-06-20 09:50:08 AM  
What an assclown.
 
2013-06-20 09:52:58 AM  
"I don't need them poking through my books, I don't need them telling my pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit,

Well, there's a simple solution for that.  Much quicker than trying to pass a law outlawing the IRS and repealing an amendment to the constitution.
Just tell your pastor to inform the IRS that your church is no longer a tax-exempt organization.
You INVITED them into your church when you asked to not pay taxes.

If you want to keep the church and the state separate then stop getting mixing up the business of the two.  You and your conservative friends have spent years passing around needles trying to inject religion into politics.  You can't complain now that those needles have become coated in political cooties.
 
2013-06-20 09:53:42 AM  

DrPainMD: Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?

If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.


"This salary is what we offer all our new hires; we don't negotiate".  Is really" This si the salary we offer all out new women hires; we offer more and allow negoiation for men."  No company actually says "fark you, biatch, we pay you less"
 
2013-06-20 09:56:04 AM  

phalamir: DrPainMD: Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?

If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.

"This salary is what we offer all our new hires; we don't negotiate".  Is really" This si the salary we offer all out new women hires; we offer more and allow negoiation for men."  No company actually says "fark you, biatch, we pay you less"


Don't bother. DrPain is a strong supporter of allowing businesses to engage in any discriminatory behaviors they desire.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:43 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Also, what's up with his fantasy that the IRS wants to tell his "...pastor or my priest what he's going to be able to preach from the pulpit"?

These retards always have to shoehorn Jebus into every discussion, just because it riles up the rubes.


No, no, he's right: those meddling IRS people keep interfering with his pastor's "God says he wants you to vote for Steve King or you will go to Hell!" sermon!
 
2013-06-20 09:57:41 AM  
"For the last 30 years, I've been for abolishing the IRS and establishing a fair tax,"

Administered by...?


Lexx
If you don't want to pay taxes, you're essentially saying you don't want a government. If so, then get the fark out of your country, and go live in some anarchistic backwater hell-hole like Somalia.

How about I stay and the government leaves?
 
2013-06-20 10:00:04 AM  

RanDomino: How about I stay and the government leaves?


So, Somalia gets a working infrastructure, but America gets hellhole.  Seems unwieldy, but to each his own
 
2013-06-20 10:00:13 AM  

RanDomino: "For the last 30 years, I've been for abolishing the IRS and establishing a fair tax,"

Administered by...?


Lexx
If you don't want to pay taxes, you're essentially saying you don't want a government. If so, then get the fark out of your country, and go live in some anarchistic backwater hell-hole like Somalia.

How about I stay and the government leaves?


The nature of your country IS the nature of your government.  Either rise up in revolution, leave, or shut up and do your civic duty.
 
2013-06-20 10:02:51 AM  

DrPainMD: Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?

If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.


Drew thanks you for the extra clicks this thread will get because of you.
 
2013-06-20 10:03:27 AM  

phalamir: DrPainMD: Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?

If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.

"This salary is what we offer all our new hires; we don't negotiate".  Is really" This si the salary we offer all out new women hires; we offer more and allow negoiation for men."  No company actually says "fark you, biatch, we pay you less"


Now... I don't got no fancy economical degree or nuthin', but... *spit*

If the little lady done took a job, and agreed to do it fer pay, why should she care what the menfolk are gettin' paid, if'n she agreed to do that job for what she's gits paid?

Plus... and I heard this on Hannity... if'n she births a baby, 0bama lets her take six weeks off for, uh... mothering leave.  I think it's "mothering".  Anyway...

Six weeks is almost two months.  And there's twelve months inna year.  So payin' women ten percent less is only fair, 'cause she ain't gonna be there but ten percent less.

So really, if you pay women the same, they're getting special treatment.  Just like gay marriage.  That's what Hannity said.
 
2013-06-20 10:04:44 AM  

phalamir: As a non-profit, they can't advocate directly for a particular candidate/party


Non-profits are free to endorse candidates- but they have to be the right kind of non-profit organization. Churches are not that kind. A church could easily incorporate under a different form of non-profit charter, but they would have a different set of restrictions and regulations. Essentially, they want their cake and its eating as well.
 
2013-06-20 10:05:22 AM  

DrPainMD: Serious Black: Secrecy of income is how a lot of businesses get away with pay discrimination. After all, if you're a woman and you have no access to any info that would show you how you make 10% less than the men with the same job description and experience in your company, how can you possibly know you should sue?

If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.


Dang.  Shoulda refreshed the thread before posting.
 
2013-06-20 10:09:05 AM  

t3knomanser: phalamir: As a non-profit, they can't advocate directly for a particular candidate/party

Non-profits are free to endorse candidates- but they have to be the right kind of non-profit organization. Churches are not that kind. A church could easily incorporate under a different form of non-profit charter, but they would have a different set of restrictions and regulations. Essentially, they want their cake and its eating as well.


I was trying to point out that there isn't a "church" category, but that they are a subset of a general category, not give a master course on the minutae of federal tax catagorization
 
2013-06-20 10:13:21 AM  

DrPainMD: If the woman is offered a certain pay/benefits package for a certain job, and she accepts the employment offer, she has no grounds for a law suit.


In your opinion.  And, your opinion is wrong, ethically, legally  http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/equalcompensation.cfm  and morally.
 
2013-06-20 10:16:37 AM  

t3knomanser: phalamir: As a non-profit, they can't advocate directly for a particular candidate/party

Non-profits are free to endorse candidates- but they have to be the right kind of non-profit organization. Churches are not that kind. A church could easily incorporate under a different form of non-profit charter, but they would have a different set of restrictions and regulations. Essentially, they want their cake and its eating as well to fry their chicken and fark it too.

 
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