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(CBS News)   In addition to the NSA recording all of your phone calls and emails, the FBI is videotaping your from the sky. Your proctologist has not been implicated in the spying scandal. Yet   (cbsnews.com) divider line 22
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2013-06-20 10:37:00 AM
4 votes:
I'm still shocked that anyone is honestly still surprised at this
2013-06-20 10:54:59 AM
3 votes:
"In addition to the NSA recording all of your phone calls and emails, the FBI is videotaping your from the sky. Your proctologist has not been implicated in the spying scandal. Yet "


Yo submitter......


FYI - The NSA does not need to talk to your Proctologist. They have already captured all of your (electronic) medical record transactions.
2013-06-20 11:41:57 AM
2 votes:
There's a world of difference between armed remote-control aircraft being used to kill people in foreign countries that we are not at war with and the use of remote-control aircraft here in the US for entertainment, for competition, to take mapping or survey photographs, to deliver pizza, or to take photo/video of a crime scene.

What the loonies in the media and Congress are doing very successfully right now is attempting to take the legitimate moral ethical and legal outrage over #1 and transfer it to #2 because it's the FBI and that means it's Obama and he bad.

No citizen of the United States has any legitimate reason to object to the FBI using a remote-control aircraft to take photos of, film, and otherwise provide situational awareness of a crime scene.  It's a 100% legitimate investigative tool and unless it somehow interferes with the FAA's flight paths (unlikely) it is 100% legal as it is currently used.

So go take a cold shower and rub one out on some Ayn Rand books, Mr. Tea-Bag idiot, there's no story here.
2013-06-20 10:47:39 AM
2 votes:
I'm shocked there is any expectation of privacy from aerial vehicles...
2013-06-20 10:40:08 AM
2 votes:
I guess I should start sunbathing in the nude now
2013-06-20 10:39:38 AM
2 votes:

DrPainMD: Is there anybody left who doesn't see that our greatest enemy (our only enemy, really) is our own government? Anybody?


This. The largest terror cell in the world is in DC
2013-06-20 10:38:16 AM
2 votes:
Is there anybody left who doesn't see that our greatest enemy (our only enemy, really) is our own government? Anybody?
2013-06-20 02:04:46 PM
1 votes:

bdub77: Noticeably F.A.T.: bdub77: My privacy is being violated! I am totally going to update my Facebook status about this!

Are you really unaware that there is a difference between information freely given to an entity of you choice, and information taken without your permission by people you don't necessarily want to have that information?

Of course not. But I find it ironic that the vast majority of people are generally happy with the status quo and yet are so upset about this, because they already gave their rights away more than a decade ago after 9/11 under the Patriot Act, they never voted the clowns who instituted it out of office, they continue to be fine with our huge military, including a huge presence in other countries (Syria being the latest flavor of the month) and meanwhile, they continue to give rights about their info away every day so they can play on their Xbox One or get gmail or go to Facebook or listen to music. Anyone connected to the world not living in a bunker somewhere has been giving their personal info to one corporate entity or another - why isn't that discussed? The EU has strong personal privacy laws? Why not us?

I would be the first to condemn Obama for his actions violating the 4th amendment. I don't like it one bit. I think it should be illegal under the Constitution. Unfortunately a majority of 9 people on the Supreme Court disagree with me. Don't like it? Well create a movement and throw these assclowns out of office.


It looks like people are coming around.  I'm interested to see how large privacy is during the '14 midterms. It has a lot to do with what the media makes of it. The AP, NY TImes, and CBS seem to interested. CNN hasn't had the recent coverage that others have....
2013-06-20 12:34:34 PM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: the FBI operating a handful of drones for legitimate (and legal) purposes isn't a big deal


You're making a rather large assumption that that's what's going on. In light of the NSA revelations, the Feds have zero credibility when they assure us that they're respecting civil liberties.
2013-06-20 12:32:14 PM
1 votes:
If they have a valid reason, and a warrant, why not? They have done this forever, drones, regular planes, choppers, who cares?
2013-06-20 12:30:48 PM
1 votes:
Bush is spying in 2007:
  -  Republicans: This is needed for security.
  -  Democrats: This is an outrage of liberty.

Obama is spying in 2013:
  -  Democatss: This is needed for security.
  -  Republicans: This is an outrage of liberty.

/trollface
2013-06-20 12:10:52 PM
1 votes:

Amish Tech Support: Ok America,

Why are we all suddenly enraged by something that has been going on for years?

So next week are we all going to discover the atrocities in Vietnam?


They'll forget about this as soon as Kim and Kanye show pics of their baby and start their own Kim, Kanye, and K-baby foundation.
2013-06-20 12:04:59 PM
1 votes:

bdub77: The important thing is that all of these 'scandals' are really just a way to waste everyone's time on an issue that will never go away whilst simultaneously Congress does absolutely f*cking zero.

I wouldn't be surprised if all this crap, Snowden included, was just done on purpose to distract us from the fact that our government in essence should be governing, which means drafting workable legislative compromises, and yet the immigration bill is a morass of crap and Congress wants to focus all its time and effort on an abortion bill and repealing Obamacare for the sake of political gamesmanship, two things which will never pass the Senate but will get out its base of crazies in 2014.

If you want the government to spy on you less, then VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEFUND THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS.

Maybe we could even save a little cash too.


Yes but the Greens will never win! That's throwing your vote away!
2013-06-20 12:01:56 PM
1 votes:
The important thing is that all of these 'scandals' are really just a way to waste everyone's time on an issue that will never go away whilst simultaneously Congress does absolutely f*cking zero.

I wouldn't be surprised if all this crap, Snowden included, was just done on purpose to distract us from the fact that our government in essence should be governing, which means drafting workable legislative compromises, and yet the immigration bill is a morass of crap and Congress wants to focus all its time and effort on an abortion bill and repealing Obamacare for the sake of political gamesmanship, two things which will never pass the Senate but will get out its base of crazies in 2014.

If you want the government to spy on you less, then VOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEFUND THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS.

Maybe we could even save a little cash too.
2013-06-20 11:52:30 AM
1 votes:
They can monitor me from the sky all they want. All they will discover is that I don't spend much time on my roof.
2013-06-20 11:42:01 AM
1 votes:
This is a travesty of our civil rights!Bush and Cheney should be impeached!Wait, what...? Ah, never mind.
2013-06-20 11:32:34 AM
1 votes:

jjorsett: The day will shortly be here, if it isn't already, when all urban areas will be videotaped in high resolution 24/7 from surveillance aircraft or satellites. I've seen demonstrations of such a system in which individuals are identifiable or nearly so. It'll be essentially what London is trying to do, except they won't have to carpet a city with a gazillion individual cameras and there won't be any uncovered areas.


You'll know its here when some bullshiat reason for banning awnings over sidewalks is put forth.
2013-06-20 11:28:09 AM
1 votes:

Amish Tech Support: Ok America,

Why are we all suddenly enraged by something that has been going on for years?


Because now Fox is covering it.
2013-06-20 11:13:26 AM
1 votes:

rkettens: Amish Tech Support: Ok America,

Why are we all suddenly enraged by something that has been going on for years?

So next week are we all going to discover the atrocities in Vietnam?

This


For me, that's not the point.  FTFA:

"At Wednesday's hearing, Grassley asked Mueller whether the bureau has developed a set of policies and procedures establishing the "operational limits" of its drone use on American soil.
Mueller responded, "We are in the initial stages of doing that, and I will tell you that our footprint is very small."

"We have very few, and of limited use," he added, "and are exploring not only the use, but the necessary guidelines for that use.""

By their own admission, they have no policies, no procedures, no guidelines for their use.  That's what's troubling, along with the (to me) obvious conclusion that there's no oversight.
2013-06-20 10:59:40 AM
1 votes:
Ok America,

Why are we all suddenly enraged by something that has been going on for years?

So next week are we all going to discover the atrocities in Vietnam?
2013-06-20 10:56:39 AM
1 votes:
Just vote for the other guy.

Oh wait.

Well I'm stumped.
2013-06-20 10:51:12 AM
1 votes:
During the RNC in NYC several years ago they deployed a Surveillance blimp to keep tabs on the demonstrators etc. So I think congress might want to ask questions about aerial surveillance vs. just drone use.
 
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