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2013-06-20 02:46:15 AM  
I have no clue how they begin to undo the damage they did to tens of thousands of families, but the long journey starts with a single step.
 
2013-06-20 03:57:45 AM  
Between ministries like Exodus apologizing for past wrongs against the LGBTQ community, and multiple conservative politicians changing their stance on Gay Marriage (to now be in favor of it) this week, it seems like a lot of people are trying to do one thing: Get on the right side of history, with the SCOTUS decisions on Prop 8 and DOMA coming by the end of the week. It sounds like they see the writing on the wall, assume the SCOTUS will overturn Prop 8 and DOMA, heralding in a major victory for LGBTQ equality in America.

This isn't the end of the fight for equality, if SCOTUS rules favorably, but it is a start. And all these former opponents of LGBTQ equality changing their tune does not mean there are not still many formidable enemies to face. But it is a beginning, and that is all we can ask for.

/Straight Ally
 
2013-06-20 08:21:11 AM  

MmmmBacon: Between ministries like Exodus apologizing for past wrongs against the LGBTQ community, and multiple conservative politicians changing their stance on Gay Marriage (to now be in favor of it) this week, it seems like a lot of people are trying to do one thing: Get on the right side of history, with the SCOTUS decisions on Prop 8 and DOMA coming by the end of the week. It sounds like they see the writing on the wall, assume the SCOTUS will overturn Prop 8 and DOMA, heralding in a major victory for LGBTQ equality in America.


I hope you're right about the SCOTUS ruling. But there are ways that they could rule on DOMA that could really put an obstacle in the way of nation wide recognized gay marriage.

This isn't the end of the fight for equality, if SCOTUS rules favorably, but it is a start.

No, it isn't the end. A lot of people seem to think that once we get 'gay marriage' that the fight will be over. There's still discrimination in the work place, adoption rights, and maybe a couple more I'm forgetting.
 
2013-06-20 09:27:22 AM  
Link is Farked. Anyone have copypasta to post in the thread?
 
2013-06-20 09:28:21 AM  
marcus bachmann.
 
2013-06-20 09:28:42 AM  
"You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?
 
2013-06-20 09:30:00 AM  
Who the Hell are these Exodus people, and what, exactly did they fark up?
 
2013-06-20 09:33:44 AM  

James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?


I think so, but there's positive in this.   It sounds like they're apologizing for "You're a sinner and need to be cured, and we can force you to do that," so at least they're dropping Asshat Defcon down a few notches.  When one of the most hardcore anti-LGBTQ organizations out there drops an apology and decides to change their core mission, a key point has been won.
 
2013-06-20 09:36:02 AM  
I'm feeling a swell of joy and surging happiness at the news.
 
2013-06-20 09:36:03 AM  
Even the professional bigots are throwing in the towel on this issue. Will the Republican Party end up being the last anti gay rights organization in the country?
 
2013-06-20 09:36:50 AM  

BassmanBP: James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?

I think so, but there's positive in this.   It sounds like they're apologizing for "You're a sinner and need to be cured, and we can force you to do that," so at least they're dropping Asshat Defcon down a few notches.  When one of the most hardcore anti-LGBTQ organizations out there drops an apology and decides to change their core mission, a key point has been won.


True.
 
2013-06-20 09:38:26 AM  

James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?


I don't see a problem with that.  They can think the other side is wrong all they want... I mean, I know I think they are crazy for wasting time in church once (or more) a week, giving 10% of their money to the church, and praying to an invisible man.

Where you go wrong is when you try to force the other side to change, make life harder on the people that think think and feel differently than you, or keep the other side from doing things that are perfectly legal for your side to do.
 
2013-06-20 09:43:02 AM  

Cythraul: MmmmBacon: Between ministries like Exodus apologizing for past wrongs against the LGBTQ community, and multiple conservative politicians changing their stance on Gay Marriage (to now be in favor of it) this week, it seems like a lot of people are trying to do one thing: Get on the right side of history, with the SCOTUS decisions on Prop 8 and DOMA coming by the end of the week. It sounds like they see the writing on the wall, assume the SCOTUS will overturn Prop 8 and DOMA, heralding in a major victory for LGBTQ equality in America.

I hope you're right about the SCOTUS ruling. But there are ways that they could rule on DOMA that could really put an obstacle in the way of nation wide recognized gay marriage.


There are a couple of potential results in DOMA I can think of that aren't very clean. One is getting five justices to agree on the 10th amendment solution; that seems basically impossible to me. The other is getting five justices to agree that the BLAG had no standing to defend DOMA and letting the 2nd circuit court opinion stand; that seems possible but still not very likely. Besides, if that second option happened, Obama would then have to choose between enforcing DOMA differently in different parts of the country or choosing to not enforce it anywhere. Do you really think he would choose to enforce it everywhere but the circuits where they ruled it was unconstitutional?

This isn't the end of the fight for equality, if SCOTUS rules favorably, but it is a start.

No, it isn't the end. A lot of people seem to think that once we get 'gay marriage' that the fight will be over. There's still discrimination in the work place, adoption rights, and maybe a couple more I'm forgetting.


There's a whole host of things that need to be done relating to gender identity and expression. The military still bans transgendered people from serving for one.
 
2013-06-20 09:43:21 AM  

James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?


I don't think so. I think he's saying that he finally remembers what Jesus said, and if he wants to be a true Christian, he should follow the words of Christ before he follows the misinterpretations and silly whims of the people in his church.
 
2013-06-20 09:44:27 AM  

James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?



yes it is.  said another way, "I still consider you damned to hell and an abomination, but in the interest of not being vilified by a growing majority of my fellow men, I'm going to suppress this burning hatred and put on my nice face."
 
2013-06-20 09:45:18 AM  

SDRR: Link is Farked. Anyone have copypasta to post in the thread?


No, please, it's a billion words long!

Here's the gist:

"Sorry we tried to pray away the gay, that was wrong and harmed people.
Oh, and I'm gay.
Did mention MY WIFE (I'm not the bad kind of gay).
The end."
 
2013-06-20 09:45:30 AM  
If you can believe that being gay is sinful and keep it to your farking self, and not treat gay people any differently than anyone else, and refrain from trying to legislate against or prevent teh ghey, then I don't give a fark what you believe, even if it's retarded and hypocritical because you completely ignore every single other so-called abomination in Leviticus, except teh ghey.

The problem is that people who can do this don't seem to exist.
 
2013-06-20 09:46:21 AM  

PawisBetlog: James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?


yes it is.  said another way, "I still consider you damned to hell and an abomination, but in the interest of not being vilified by a growing majority of my fellow men, I'm going to suppress this burning hatred and put on my nice face."


oh and he also said he's gay, but moved past that point pretty quickly.
 
2013-06-20 09:49:14 AM  

James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for someone else being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?


You were never his enemy. He's sorry he was yours.
 
2013-06-20 09:52:44 AM  

ThunderPelvis: If you can believe that being gay is sinful and keep it to your farking self, and not treat gay people any differently than anyone else, and refrain from trying to legislate against or prevent teh ghey, then I don't give a fark what you believe, even if it's retarded and hypocritical because you completely ignore every single other so-called abomination in Leviticus, except teh ghey.

The problem is that people who can do this don't seem to exist.


How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure
 
2013-06-20 09:53:39 AM  
You cannot hope to begin to make things right between you and someone you wronged until you speak the two words "I'm sorry."

Exodus isn't (and the rest aren't) off the hook yet, but this is an incredible step on par with the Anglicans ordaining gay priests or Episcopals ordaining women. If nothing else, the easily-led will take a cue from an organization they trust and realize that "choice" therapy is bullshiat like phrenology. Hell, maybe this is the next step in getting people (the, what 40%? who don't yet) to realize that gay is not a choice.
 
2013-06-20 09:54:37 AM  
It's always adorable when a hate-filled, god-clotted Liar for Jesus tries to change his spots.
 
2013-06-20 09:55:36 AM  
Hopefully this leads to an end of so-called Biblical values and basing morality on mythology.  The sooner that we can relegate Evangelical, Roman-Catholic, Christians and Mormons to the sidelines of the political process, the better off we'd be as a nation.
 
2013-06-20 09:55:39 AM  

BassmanBP: James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?

I think so, but there's positive in this.   It sounds like they're apologizing for "You're a sinner and need to be cured, and we can force you to do that," so at least they're dropping Asshat Defcon down a few notches.  When one of the most hardcore anti-LGBTQ organizations out there drops an apology and decides to change their core mission, a key point has been won.


I think this is the key point:

"I cannot apologize for my deeply held biblical beliefs about the boundaries I see in scripture surrounding sex, but I will exercise my beliefs with great care and respect for those who do not share them."

What a person thinks in the quiet recesses of his own mind is his own business. When those thoughts translate into actions that affect others, that is another matter entirely. I think he finally came to that realization.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:02 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure


0/10, and may God have mercy on your soul
 
2013-06-20 09:57:52 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: ThunderPelvis: If you can believe that being gay is sinful and keep it to your farking self, and not treat gay people any differently than anyone else, and refrain from trying to legislate against or prevent teh ghey, then I don't give a fark what you believe, even if it's retarded and hypocritical because you completely ignore every single other so-called abomination in Leviticus, except teh ghey.

The problem is that people who can do this don't seem to exist.

How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure


Hah! Where do you think you are? Soccermoms.com? You'll have to try better than that to troll Farkers.
 
2013-06-20 09:58:08 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure


You might get a bite or two with this.

Still, it's kind of sad that acting like a moron simply to get attention is so important to you. You must live a painfully lonely life, friend.
 
2013-06-20 09:58:51 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: ThunderPelvis: If you can believe that being gay is sinful and keep it to your farking self, and not treat gay people any differently than anyone else, and refrain from trying to legislate against or prevent teh ghey, then I don't give a fark what you believe, even if it's retarded and hypocritical because you completely ignore every single other so-called abomination in Leviticus, except teh ghey.

The problem is that people who can do this don't seem to exist.

How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure


You're so cute. Here's a quarter; go play a song on the jukebox.
 
2013-06-20 10:05:11 AM  
Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.
 
2013-06-20 10:09:10 AM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.


As GI26M said, LGBT should be fine with USAns.  Let's not make an FBI, CIA, ATF, TSA, PTA, USMC, IBM case out of this, okay, Ds, Rs, Is & TBs?

/sorry.
//I should really know when to just stop posting.
 
2013-06-20 10:11:21 AM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.


THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.
 
2013-06-20 10:15:55 AM  

gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.


In the words of a man wiser than myself: You either suck a dick or you don't.
 
2013-06-20 10:16:58 AM  

gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.


I'm just wondering why lesbians get always top-billing in LGBT.  Does the acronym just roll off the tongue better that way?

/again, sorry.
//seriously.  You'd think I'd know not to post sometimes.
 
2013-06-20 10:17:34 AM  

MmmmBacon: Between ministries like Exodus apologizing for past wrongs against the LGBTQ community, and multiple conservative politicians changing widening their stance on Gay Marriage


FTFY
 
2013-06-20 10:18:27 AM  

gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.


I can understand wanting L and G to be apart, and also needing the B and T.  But Q?  Is that really necessary?  If you're going to add an extra letter, the only letters I can potentially see being justified are I for intersexed and maybe A for asexuals.

/Not gay, but a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
 
2013-06-20 10:25:45 AM  

Vodka Zombie: gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.

I'm just wondering why lesbians get always top-billing in LGBT.  Does the acronym just roll off the tongue better that way?

/again, sorry.
//seriously.  You'd think I'd know not to post sometimes.


Rearrange the letters and you're too close to BLT.
 
2013-06-20 10:28:29 AM  

Misch: Vodka Zombie: gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.

I'm just wondering why lesbians get always top-billing in LGBT.  Does the acronym just roll off the tongue better that way?

/again, sorry.
//seriously.  You'd think I'd know not to post sometimes.

Rearrange the letters and you're too close to BLT.


Bisexual Lesbian Tomatoes?
 
2013-06-20 10:32:17 AM  

QifutuWahuta: gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.

I can understand wanting L and G to be apart, and also needing the B and T.  But Q?  Is that really necessary?  If you're going to add an extra letter, the only letters I can potentially see being justified are I for intersexed and maybe A for asexuals.

/Not gay, but a lesbian trapped in a man's body.


"Q" is "Questioning." Meaning you are undecided. Sorry, but it's only an experiment the first time. The "Q" phase doesn't last long enough to have its own letter.
 
2013-06-20 10:34:31 AM  
So, Exodus International is going to continue to exist but with a totally different purpose?  Dude, it's easier to disband.  Whatever good you are hoping to do, there are already organizations trying to do that but without the baggage that Exodus would be dragging along.
 
2013-06-20 10:37:58 AM  

BassmanBP: James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?

I think so, but there's positive in this.   It sounds like they're apologizing for "You're a sinner and need to be cured, and we can force you to do that," so at least they're dropping Asshat Defcon down a few notches.  When one of the most hardcore anti-LGBTQ organizations out there drops an apology and decides to change their core mission, a key point has been won.


Sorry, I'll believe that when I see it. Usually stuff like this just means "damn we lost this war front, let's make nice and start a new one".

Or alternately "well, demographics show we're better off trying to get money believers from a more centrist audience, so let's shift that way. The anti-gay population demographic only has a few more years before they start dropping from old age anyway"...
 
2013-06-20 10:38:12 AM  

Vodka Zombie: I'm just wondering why lesbians get always top-billing in LGBT. Does the acronym just roll off the tongue better that way?


Otherwise, it would seem too GLiB.

Seriously, though, there is also GLAD.  And I also thought that the word "gay" could refer to women as well as men, but apparently only straight people think that, so it's a no-go.
 
2013-06-20 10:39:12 AM  

Serious Black: Duke_leto_Atredes: ThunderPelvis: If you can believe that being gay is sinful and keep it to your farking self, and not treat gay people any differently than anyone else, and refrain from trying to legislate against or prevent teh ghey, then I don't give a fark what you believe, even if it's retarded and hypocritical because you completely ignore every single other so-called abomination in Leviticus, except teh ghey.

The problem is that people who can do this don't seem to exist.

How about stop going after our kids, we need to protect our kids and also study the illness that makes people "gay" find the cause and then the cure

You're so cute. Here's a quarter; go play a song on the jukebox.


Ignoring Serious Black's troll, but not the point he brings up:

I've always been curious why a certain subsection of the "anti-gay" crowd sees homosexuality as a genetic disease, as if reproduction was an end good for a individual regardless of any other outside factors. Does that mean that everyone should be encouraged to have children, regardless of circumstances? While successfully raising children into productive members of society is laudable, it really isn't noble or even necessary on a individual level.

And to head off some tired and unproductive discussion points.

A)Religious arguments are invalid on this point.

We are not discussing the moral or spiritual implications of homosexuality, none of which can be conclusively proven medically or scientifically. I'm not saying there isn't a place for that discussion, just that it is not here.

B) Homosexuality is damaging to the long term survival of the nation / species.

This argument would only be valid if we were confronted with a sweeping a catastrophic wave of homosexuality, something approaching over 50%. If there is any real rise in homosexuality and not just a recognition of previously repressed instances, an increased rate of homosexuality could be seem as species wide adaptation to over population pressures.

C)Genetic imperative, ect ect.

Again, this only applies to a species as a whole and not individuals. Thinking that *your* line in particular has to go on, at the cost of the well being of freedom and well being of child of yours who is gay is incredibly self serving.
 
2013-06-20 10:56:40 AM  
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Whoa, crazy stuff here.  At least the guy seems to be trying to do the right thing-- actions will speak louder than words, though.

So... What's Chambers communicating here, other than he feels kinda bad about all the lives destroyed by his organization?

Are they taking the Catholic church's approach-- where it's "OK" to be gay, but you can never have sex unless it's with somebody you're not attracted to, and only then after you got married?  If that's the case, then it's a huge improvement, but still pretty awful.

I can understand Chambers getting married while still in denial about being gay.  It's tragic, but understandable given the bigotry and pressures so many face to be "normal." But what about now?  What about his wife?

What's the purpose for Exodus going forward?  Are they going to disband?  Are they still going to try to turn gay people straight, or are they only going to try to "fix" people they deem aren't "really" gay, but just straight guys who want to suck cock now and then?
 
2013-06-20 11:00:47 AM  

MmmmBacon: with the SCOTUS decisions on Prop 8 and DOMA coming by the end of the week.

month


Looks like we're going to have to wait until next week to find out
 
2013-06-20 11:01:00 AM  

SheltemDragon: B) Homosexuality is damaging to the long term survival of the nation / species.

This argument would only be valid if we were confronted with a sweeping a catastrophic wave of homosexuality, something approaching over 50%.


Because one dude can't fark like 300 women - approximately one per day for 10 months "straight" - to produce a litter of kids? I'd guess all we need is on the order of 10,000 men and 20,000 women (if not fewer) for all the genetic variation we'll need for the next million or so years.

Sure, we'd be axing several genetic branches off the humanity tree, but I think we could survive even with 90% homos (assuming a dedicated cadre of babymakers).
 
2013-06-20 11:05:17 AM  

Misch: Vodka Zombie: gshepnyc: Gone In 26 Minutes: Mostly in response to the earlier messages in the thread:

LGBTQOMGBBQ

Stop farking adding letters to this shiat. LGBT is fine. Not every 'alternative' sexuality deserves its own initial.

THIS.

How about just Gay? Aren't lesbians gay women? And as far as bisexuals, no one says you can't be gay and still sleep with the opposite sex when you want, or straight and still sleep with the same sex when you want. And Transgender is, frankly, an entirely separate concept.

/Gay.

I'm just wondering why lesbians get always top-billing in LGBT.  Does the acronym just roll off the tongue better that way?

/again, sorry.
//seriously.  You'd think I'd know not to post sometimes.

Rearrange the letters and you're too close to BLT.


It could always be a GQBLT, then you've covered bacon, men's fashion, and pop culture.
 
2013-06-20 11:08:23 AM  

Cybernetic: BassmanBP: James!: "You're still a sinner, but I apologize for being such a dick about it."

Is that what I'm reading?

I think so, but there's positive in this.   It sounds like they're apologizing for "You're a sinner and need to be cured, and we can force you to do that," so at least they're dropping Asshat Defcon down a few notches.  When one of the most hardcore anti-LGBTQ organizations out there drops an apology and decides to change their core mission, a key point has been won.

I think this is the key point:

"I cannot apologize for my deeply held biblical beliefs about the boundaries I see in scripture surrounding sex, but I will exercise my beliefs with great care and respect for those who do not share them."

What a person thinks in the quiet recesses of his own mind is his own business. When those thoughts translate into actions that affect others, that is another matter entirely. I think he finally came to that realization.


Yeah, I think that's the deal.

The lede is kinda buried.  Elsewhere on the website:
Exodus International to Shut Down
So it looks like the entire mission of trying to pray away the gay is done and gone.

and the statement from the guy's wife is a combination of weird and heartbreaking.
Key quote: "Alan has openly admitted his same-sex attractions. As his wife, I can honestly say that the last thing I want him to pursue is heterosexuality. "  I mean... wow, lady.  You poor thing.  Good luck in riding the emotional roller coaster, seriously.

I honestly wish this guy and his family all the luck in the world. This is definitely a painful journey.
 
2013-06-20 11:11:16 AM  

flondrix: So, Exodus International is going to continue to exist but with a totally different purpose?  Dude, it's easier to disband.  Whatever good you are hoping to do, there are already organizations trying to do that but without the baggage that Exodus would be dragging along.


Sounds like they're going to disband: link
 
2013-06-20 11:15:53 AM  

cosmiquemuffin: The lede is kinda buried. Elsewhere on the website:
Exodus International to Shut Down
So it looks like the entire mission of trying to pray away the gay is done and gone.


Good. That whole apology makes no sense otherwise.
 
2013-06-20 11:16:02 AM  

SheltemDragon: catastrophic wave of homosexuality


Finally found the name for my One Direction cover band.
 
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