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(Entertainment Weekly)   Zod is unhappy with Zod   (insidemovies.ew.com) divider line 134
    More: Obvious, Zod, Terence Stamp, Richard Donner, Marlon Brando, Superman II, Man of Steel, Superman, Superman reboot  
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2013-06-19 11:45:50 PM  
Wait until Zod sees Injustice Zod.
multiplayerblog.mtv.com
 
2013-06-19 11:46:42 PM  
kneel before me?
 
2013-06-20 12:00:20 AM  
Just put Terence Stamp on "Boardwalk Empire" opposite Michael Shannon and take my money, HBO.
 
2013-06-20 12:03:00 AM  
 big movies have become computer generated. They've become unemotional,

You took the check for The Phantom Menace, didn't you?
 
2013-06-20 12:31:46 AM  
Donner got the last laugh on that whole Superman II mess.  No one even remembers the names of the idiot producers responsible for all of that, but every nerd worth his salt has seen the Donner Cut.
 
2013-06-20 12:36:57 AM  

Mentat: Donner got the last laugh on that whole Superman II mess.  No one even remembers the names of the idiot producers responsible for all of that, but every nerd worth his salt has seen the Donner Cut.


My wife got it for me for Christmas the year it came out, it was by far my favorite Christmas getting to basically watch a new Chris Reeves Superman while she was making dinner in the kitchen.  I should say ex wife shouldn't I
 
2013-06-20 12:41:05 AM  

Mentat: No one even remembers the names of the idiot producers responsible for all of that,


Salkin maybe? Whoever was responsible, they seemed to be pretty giant assholes. We're lucky we got any decent movies at all out of them.
 
2013-06-20 12:45:55 AM  
I can understand Terrance's disappointment. There was not enough kneeling, dammit!
 
2013-06-20 12:55:25 AM  

Confabulat: Mentat: No one even remembers the names of the idiot producers responsible for all of that,

Salkin maybe? Whoever was responsible, they seemed to be pretty giant assholes. We're lucky we got any decent movies at all out of them.


Salkind.  They fired Donner because he kept rewriting their scripts to make them less campy.  Superman III was supposed to be a Brainiac film, instead it became the Richard Pryor clusterfark we all know and love.
 
2013-06-20 12:59:45 AM  
"Zod?"
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2013-06-20 01:00:14 AM  
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"Now THAT is unmistakably haterade."
 
2013-06-20 01:01:19 AM  
Love Terry, but Shannon's Zod is THE Zod. He just owned that role.
 
2013-06-20 01:03:59 AM  

Mugato: big movies have become computer generated. They've become unemotional,

You took the check for The Phantom Menace, didn't you?


Hell, he took the check for Superman II, which was considered him -with his reputation for small English films and stage plays- selling out back then.  He's never owned up to what he was paid, but it's clear it was a lot at the time.

(Brando famously made $1 million for a few days work on the first film).
 
2013-06-20 01:29:28 AM  

Confabulat: Mentat: No one even remembers the names of the idiot producers responsible for all of that,

Salkin maybe? Whoever was responsible, they seemed to be pretty giant assholes. We're lucky we got any decent movies at all out of them.


Alexander and Ilya Salkind. They pretty much burned their bridges by III. Superman III and Supergirl, which they had free reign on, sucked solely because of them. It just goes to show that the first two were successes in spite of the Salkinds, not because of them.

/Though it took Golan and Globus' Cannon Films to truly sink the franchise, but that's a whole other story...
 
2013-06-20 01:31:28 AM  
blogging.la
 
2013-06-20 01:35:32 AM  
www.mailleartisans.org

Who the hell could be unhappy with getting a Zod?
 
2013-06-20 01:43:32 AM  
Doesn't sound like he's seen the new one yet.

I've heard a LOT about that Donner cut, but haven't seen it yet.
 
2013-06-20 01:48:37 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: Superman III and Supergirl, which they had free reign on, sucked solely because of them.


Supergirl I liked, though it wasn't a commercial success, sadly.
I'm quite ok with Helen Slater...
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 01:49:58 AM  
I didn't care for the Donner cut too much. Don't get me wrong, it was enjoyable, but to have the movie resolve itself in the same, exact way as the first was bad.
 
2013-06-20 01:50:09 AM  
Is "kneel before Zod" another thing that male geeks do to girls along side with "I know"?  I know I have done both with every girlfriend I have had..... I wonder how many other memes are standard fare.
 
2013-06-20 01:51:23 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Jizz Master Zero: Superman III and Supergirl, which they had free reign on, sucked solely because of them.

Supergirl I liked, though it wasn't a commercial success, sadly.
I'm quite ok with Helen Slater...
[img.fark.net image 255x520]


She looked good in the outfit, but that was one hellatiously cheeseball movie.
 
2013-06-20 02:09:55 AM  
SPOILERS
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Shannon Zod was too much of a wimp. He's supposed to be this badass General, the man in charge of Krypton's defense, yet he gets his ass kicked by Jor-El, humiliated by Clark in Smallville, and ultimately beaten down and killed in Metropolis. Zod's only kill came in the most cowardly way possible, too, so it was really hard to see him as a credible threat.

Stamp Zod had class and a sweet pimp shirt; Shannon Zod had rage and bad CGI armor.
 
2013-06-20 02:20:24 AM  

Sweet Chin Music: Stamp Zod had class and a sweet pimp shirt;


Which is all Zod'll ever need.
 
2013-06-20 02:27:32 AM  

Alphax: Doesn't sound like he's seen the new one yet.

I've heard a LOT about that Donner cut, but haven't seen it yet.


It's good, but sadly, they didn't get the end of it shot before Donner was fired and Dick Lester took over.
 
2013-06-20 02:31:14 AM  
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KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
 
2013-06-20 02:33:29 AM  
Zod is dod.
 
2013-06-20 02:37:52 AM  

Sweet Chin Music: SPOILERS
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Shannon Zod was too much of a wimp. He's supposed to be this badass General, the man in charge of Krypton's defense, yet he gets his ass kicked by Jor-El, humiliated by Clark in Smallville, and ultimately beaten down and killed in Metropolis. Zod's only kill came in the most cowardly way possible, too, so it was really hard to see him as a credible threat.

Stamp Zod had class and a sweet pimp shirt; Shannon Zod had rage and bad CGI armor.

 
2013-06-20 02:38:41 AM  
Sigh, lying subby is lying.

He was unhappy with the idea of a remake.  Didn't comment on the new performance at all.

This lying headline thing is getting to be a worse trend than the "smoking hot" headlines.
 
2013-06-20 02:39:20 AM  
SPOILERS:

Supes did eventually physically kneel before Zod in Man of Steel.
 
2013-06-20 02:43:16 AM  

theusercomponent: I didn't care for the Donner cut too much. Don't get me wrong, it was enjoyable, but to have the movie resolve itself in the same, exact way as the first was bad.


That's because the "go back in time" thing was supposed to be the resolution to II, not I. Both movies were filmed at the same time, and Donner had filmed 75% of part II before he was replaced by Lester. All the scenes with Luthor were either footage shot with Hackman by Donner, or done with a body double with Lester because Hackman quit when Donner got canned. The Donner Cut was the way the movie would've been done had the Salkinds not been total assclowns.
 
2013-06-20 02:45:12 AM  

Sweet Chin Music: SPOILERS
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Shannon Zod was too much of a wimp. He's supposed to be this badass General, the man in charge of Krypton's defense, yet he gets his ass kicked by Jor-El, humiliated by Clark in Smallville, and ultimately beaten down and killed in Metropolis. Zod's only kill came in the most cowardly way possible, too, so it was really hard to see him as a credible threat.

Stamp Zod had class and a sweet pimp shirt; Shannon Zod had rage and bad CGI armor.





Not sure what movie you saw, but the one I saw had Zod damn near killing Superman several times.

Zods armor was practical, some CGI was done for transformation shifts.

Both Zods are cool. Terrance Stamp is just old.
 
2013-06-20 02:50:35 AM  
New Zod is significantly more complex and reasoned. A lunatic with the believable character and motivations that allow us to imagine (or even relate to) the evolution from once-decent-guy to now villain. .

80's Zod was a superficial, wooden, 2-dimensional villain.
 
2013-06-20 02:52:01 AM  
Terrence Stamp was the best Jor-El ever.

On Smallville.

Next to Julian Sands who was also Jor-El on Smallville.

Where Helen Slater was Lara.
 
2013-06-20 03:04:53 AM  

Aboleth: Terrence Stamp was the best Jor-El ever.

On Smallville.

Next to Julian Sands who was also Jor-El on Smallville.

Where Helen Slater was Lara.


And don't forget Ma Kent was Lana Lang in Superman III.
 
2013-06-20 03:06:28 AM  
New Zod sucked. I felt sorry for him, not afraid of him. Old Zod was scary. I don't like this modern movie and tv trend of making sympathetic assholes. Quit blurring the line between good guy and bad guy. Give me one character I want to see succeed and another I want to see get defeated. And get off my lawn.
 
2013-06-20 03:07:34 AM  

MurphyMurphy: New Zod is significantly more complex and reasoned. A lunatic with the believable character and motivations that allow us to imagine (or even relate to) the evolution from once-decent-guy to now villain. .

80's Zod was a superficial, wooden, 2-dimensional villain.


Yeah, pretty much.  Old Zod was an egomaniac, who didn't care that Krypton was gone, took over America, but was bored with it, and just wanted to subjugate the son of his jailer.

New Zod attempts a military coup on his government, when it became clear that their world was doomed because of them.  He was banished, seached the galaxy for decades for remnants of his people, and seeks Jor-El for the genetic codes he has, for future generations of Kryptonians.  Then he tries to turn Earth into New Kryton, which would killl all of us.
 
2013-06-20 03:10:14 AM  

LDM90: Give me one character I want to see succeed and another I want to see get defeated. And get off my lawn.


Grandpa I told you a thousand times. It's only 6:30.

Matlock and Walker Texas Ranger don't start until 8, just like they always have.
 
2013-06-20 03:12:10 AM  

LDM90: New Zod sucked. I felt sorry for him, not afraid of him. Old Zod was scary.


Scary?  I can't imagine why.

Only times he had any advantage were when he took hostages.
 
2013-06-20 03:20:07 AM  

LDM90: New Zod sucked. I felt sorry for him, not afraid of him. Old Zod was scary. I don't like this modern movie and tv trend of making sympathetic assholes. Quit blurring the line between good guy and bad guy. Give me one character I want to see succeed and another I want to see get defeated. And get off my lawn.


I'm on the opposite side.  I see the new Zod and a see a man who's a victim but chooses to be the villain all the same.  A man willing to commit genocide for the revival of his own species, which is both admirable and horrible at the same time.

I felt bad for him, knowing he was only doing what he thought best, but I also knew that he needed to be taken down.  It made him easier to understand, to relate with.

But, that's just me.
 
2013-06-20 04:23:47 AM  

Confabulat: Aboleth: Terrence Stamp was the best Jor-El ever.

On Smallville.

Next to Julian Sands who was also Jor-El on Smallville.

Where Helen Slater was Lara.

And don't forget Ma Kent was Lana Lang in Superman III.


Let's not forget that Lois Lane was Lois Lane's mom, and Superman was a crazy guy who cut out parts of people to save his wife

/also, bolded part is truth
 
2013-06-20 04:24:29 AM  
Though both actors were great, as characters, I liked Stamp's megalomaniacal Zod better than Shannon's racial-purity Zod. Shannon's Zod didn't really stand out from amongst his men except for his fanaticism, and that didn't make him seem dangerous in the same way Stamp's Zod was. I'm not sure giving Shannon's Zod the whole "saviour of Krypton" mantle worked either, since Goyer never really fleshed out Kal'L's relationship with his adopted planet properly.
 
2013-06-20 04:40:34 AM  

LDM90: Give me one character I want to see succeed and another I want to see get defeated.


I've got stacks of pulp novels that will give you exactly what you desire.

Me, I like things a bit more complex than that.
 
2013-06-20 04:48:01 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Jizz Master Zero: Superman III and Supergirl, which they had free reign on, sucked solely because of them.

Supergirl I liked, though it wasn't a commercial success, sadly.
I'm quite ok with Helen Slater...
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The Salkinds get a lot of criticism over the Donner and Brando flaps but damn if they didn't cast and costume Superman and Supergirl to look exactly like they flew off the comic book page. Plus they hired Donner and Brando in the first place. All subsequent superhero blockbuster owe a debt to the Salkinds taking the risk to make a big-budget comic book movie with A-list stars, which was not an established genre when they did it.
 
2013-06-20 05:01:11 AM  

Nem Wan: The Salkinds get a lot of criticism over the Donner and Brando flaps but damn if they didn't cast and costume Superman and Supergirl to look exactly like they flew off the comic book page. Plus they hired Donner and Brando in the first place. All subsequent superhero blockbuster owe a debt to the Salkinds taking the risk to make a big-budget comic book movie with A-list stars, which was not an established genre when they did it.


The basic problem seems to have been that they thought that "comic books" meant "funny papers"; they didn't really know what they were making, and they were too scared to trust the creatives (Mario Puzo and Dick Donner) they hired.

And given that we're talking about a big-budget Hollywood movie made in the late 1970s (and involving Puzo and Donner) there's probably also drug-related issues involved.
 
2013-06-20 05:12:40 AM  
dilbert.com
 
2013-06-20 05:19:57 AM  

MurphyMurphy: 80's Zod was a superficial, wooden, 2-dimensional villain.


Yes, he was rather 2-dimensional.

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2013-06-20 05:37:35 AM  
Harry_Seldon:
Yes, he was rather 2-dimensional.

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;)
 
2013-06-20 05:57:44 AM  
i didnt get why zod wanted to get kal el back. it didnt make any sense.
 
2013-06-20 06:03:48 AM  

CSM101: Confabulat: Aboleth: Terrence Stamp was the best Jor-El ever.

On Smallville.

Next to Julian Sands who was also Jor-El on Smallville.

Where Helen Slater was Lara.

And don't forget Ma Kent was Lana Lang in Superman III.

Let's not forget that Lois Lane was Lois Lane's mom, and Superman was a crazy guy who cut out parts of people to save his wife


You're also missing Superman's assistant who was also Lois Lane, And Superman was also a guy who cured meteor freaks.
 
2013-06-20 06:07:59 AM  
I'm unhappy because I avoided all trailers and commercials, then Mattel plays a commercial between episodes of Adventure Time featuring General Zod. farking gave away most of the movie in a toy commercial.
 
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