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(Metro)   Study suggests children given antibiotics before their first birthday could be at a much greater risk of developing eczema, but experts warn against making any rash decisions   (metro.co.uk) divider line 35
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2013-06-20 12:33:22 AM
ya, well...thanks for letting me know 40 farking years later...
 
2013-06-20 12:57:00 AM
The child's gut microbiome is still forming a year or so after birth, so I could see something like this being possible.
 
2013-06-20 02:33:15 AM
Elephant babies eat their parents' poop to form an immune system.
 
2013-06-20 03:03:02 AM
Scientists are barely scratching at the surface on this research.
 
2013-06-20 05:31:52 AM
That's a pretty flaky study.
 
2013-06-20 05:38:21 AM
People with eczema freak me out.
 
2013-06-20 05:42:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.


They should. Mine once flared up so badly that I was bleeding from my palms.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
 
2013-06-20 05:47:45 AM
So can I sue my family for this?

Eczema on my hands gets so bad I have to file for temporary disability as I can no longer work. Hands swell to three times their size and constantly crack, eczema pus and blood just oozing.

/disgusting and man does it hurt like hell
 
2013-06-20 05:48:43 AM

aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.

They should. Mine once flared up so badly that I was bleeding from my palms.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.


Sorry dude but you've got worse problems.  That's stigmata.
 
2013-06-20 05:51:03 AM
InB4JennyMcCarthy
 
2013-06-20 05:54:30 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.


people like you freak me out. freak
 
2013-06-20 06:46:28 AM

unlikely: Elephant babies eat their parents' poop to form an immune system.


So do koala bears. I bet a lot of animals do it.
 
2013-06-20 06:46:52 AM
See, that's what *I* thought, but I later learned that the nails have to go in through the wrist.
 
2013-06-20 06:48:02 AM

spidermann: So can I sue my family for this?

Eczema on my hands gets so bad I have to file for temporary disability as I can no longer work. Hands swell to three times their size and constantly crack, eczema pus and blood just oozing.

/disgusting and man does it hurt like hell


Have you also discovered the terrible yet sweet relief that comes from the application of near-boiling water?
 
2013-06-20 07:00:14 AM
It's an RR of .4; call me when they find something with an RR of 2 or greater.
 
2013-06-20 07:05:54 AM
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2013-06-20 07:12:18 AM
If you can't survive your first year without antibiotics (which we over-prescribe, fail to take according to directions, and get low doses of via artificially-healthy/fattened animal protein, leading to the emergence of resistant strains of bacteria), perhaps you should be removed from the gene pool.
 
2013-06-20 07:31:52 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.


I know you are a colossal troll, but if you really  would like to be freaked out, do a GIS for "psoriasis."

Most eczema sufferers feel lucky they don't have it.
 
2013-06-20 07:42:59 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: If you can't survive your first year without antibiotics (which we over-prescribe, fail to take according to directions, and get low doses of via artificially-healthy/fattened animal protein, leading to the emergence of resistant strains of bacteria), perhaps you should be removed from the gene pool.


Really!  Because at < 1 year of age you have total control over your destiny and shouldn't make such poor life choices.

/Sarcasm ON
 
2013-06-20 08:18:03 AM

aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.

They should. Mine once flared up so badly that I was bleeding from my palms.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.


I knew someone in high school like that. I always figured it was a results of hardcore stroking.
 
2013-06-20 08:21:32 AM

aagrajag: AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.

They should. Mine once flared up so badly that I was bleeding from my palms.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.


Thats the way it used to happen to me. It went away for good roundabout the time I hit adolescence. Anything with any ingredient from eggs brought it out on the insides of my arms, all the way to my palms, and behind my knees. The worst I ever had it was after a friends 8th birthday party. Cake and ice cream just about killed me.
 
2013-06-20 08:27:59 AM
Or.........your kid could die from not getting the antibiotic, huh, let me think about that choice...........

/they'll get over it
//and now they have another snowflake excuse for being inadequate
 
2013-06-20 08:45:53 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: If you can't survive your first year without antibiotics (which we over-prescribe, fail to take according to directions, and get low doses of via artificially-healthy/fattened animal protein, leading to the emergence of resistant strains of bacteria), perhaps you should be removed from the gene pool.


Actually most resistant forms of bacteria are forming thanks to over application of drugs in food production.

Literally they just spray fruit trees willy nilly with the shiat, like they used to with DDT. Now there is a resistant strand of staph that used to affect fruit trees cropping up that has the high potential to cross species into humans with fatal results.

Enjoy  that apple people!
 
2013-06-20 08:48:58 AM

aagrajag: spidermann: So can I sue my family for this?

Eczema on my hands gets so bad I have to file for temporary disability as I can no longer work. Hands swell to three times their size and constantly crack, eczema pus and blood just oozing.

/disgusting and man does it hurt like hell

Have you also discovered the terrible yet sweet relief that comes from the application of near-boiling water?


Oh yeah. For a few seconds, the relief is almost orgasmic

/hands and arms
//also used to be on my ankles
 
2013-06-20 08:51:40 AM

Cold_Sassy: AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.

I know you are a colossal troll, but if you really  would like to be freaked out, do a GIS for "psoriasis."

Most eczema sufferers feel lucky they don't have it.


And most insurance companies won't pay for $%#*&* to get it treated because it "isn't debilitating."  $700 after insurance for a 6 oz tube of ointment.   Screw you!

/thanks for the crappy genes family, multiple siblings have it too
//mine is the most mild, thank GOODNESS
///but I also have eczema too.  (weeps)
 
2013-06-20 09:01:56 AM

SharkaPult: Cold_Sassy: AverageAmericanGuy: People with eczema freak me out.

I know you are a colossal troll, but if you really  would like to be freaked out, do a GIS for "psoriasis."

Most eczema sufferers feel lucky they don't have it.

And most insurance companies won't pay for $%#*&* to get it treated because it "isn't debilitating."  $700 after insurance for a 6 oz tube of ointment.   Screw you!

/thanks for the crappy genes family, multiple siblings have it too
//mine is the most mild, thank GOODNESS
///but I also have eczema too.  (weeps)


I am sorry to hear that.  You'd think that something like this would be taken care of due to psychological effects (depression etc.)

I mean, obesity has now been proclaimed to be a "disease" and treatments will most likely be covered by insurance.  What's fair about that?  If you are obese, you are personally responsible, whereas psoriasis is completely involuntary.
 
2013-06-20 09:02:23 AM

aagrajag: spidermann: So can I sue my family for this?

Eczema on my hands gets so bad I have to file for temporary disability as I can no longer work. Hands swell to three times their size and constantly crack, eczema pus and blood just oozing.

/disgusting and man does it hurt like hell

Have you also discovered the terrible yet sweet relief that comes from the application of near-boiling water?


Oh man, I do that every time I wash my hands when I get an outbreak. It feels so good but you know it will end poorly
 
2013-06-20 09:09:30 AM

machoprogrammer: aagrajag: spidermann: So can I sue my family for this?

Eczema on my hands gets so bad I have to file for temporary disability as I can no longer work. Hands swell to three times their size and constantly crack, eczema pus and blood just oozing.

/disgusting and man does it hurt like hell

Have you also discovered the terrible yet sweet relief that comes from the application of near-boiling water?

Oh man, I do that every time I wash my hands when I get an outbreak. It feels so good but you know it will end poorly


For a time, I had it over almost my entire body. I had to go do a "treatment", as I came to call it, twice a night until I could get it under control with steroids: getting into the shower and finding that magic point between painful and destructive. Otherwise, I couldn't sleep more than a total of one hour per night.

The scalding water ultimately does less damage to the skin than does pulling off chunks of it.

Better now.
 
2013-06-20 09:17:05 AM
My daughter had eczema when she was a baby, but it went away completely after she stopped getting regular vaccinations when she 4 or so. She's 16 now and there's been no sign of it in a while.

Several members of my family have pretty bad cases, though. I've heard that tanning helps reduce outbreaks, have any of you experienced that?
 
2013-06-20 09:21:54 AM
Antibiotics are so overused. In a large number of cases, I doubt they're really called for. When my sons were little, I remember other mothers insisting that you should pump a kid full of tylenol and "the pink medicine" (amoxicillan) when they got a cold. I told one mother that antibiotics did nothing to fight a virus, and reducing a low-grade fever robbed the body of its best defense against a virus. She looked at me funny- maybe because of all that complicated "book larnin". My kids got cool-mist humidifiers in their room, plenty of fluids and popsicles, and tylenol if their fever went over 101F. If doctors keep caving in to stupid parents and over-prescribing antibiotics, I think we'll see a lot more super bugs, skin disorders, and other serious long-term effects.
 
2013-06-20 09:22:48 AM

QT_3.14159: My daughter had eczema when she was a baby, but it went away completely after she stopped getting regular vaccinations when she 4 or so. She's 16 now and there's been no sign of it in a while.

Several members of my family have pretty bad cases, though. I've heard that tanning helps reduce outbreaks, have any of you experienced that?


I've heard that too, but when it gets bad enough to try it, the last thing I wish to do is expose my skin in public for fear of getting dragged off to a quarantine facility by some guys in condom suits.
 
2013-06-20 09:29:18 AM

aagrajag: QT_3.14159: My daughter had eczema when she was a baby, but it went away completely after she stopped getting regular vaccinations when she 4 or so. She's 16 now and there's been no sign of it in a while.

Several members of my family have pretty bad cases, though. I've heard that tanning helps reduce outbreaks, have any of you experienced that?

I've heard that too, but when it gets bad enough to try it, the last thing I wish to do is expose my skin in public for fear of getting dragged off to a quarantine facility by some guys in condom suits.


Lol, I think you're supposed to try it before it gets that bad.
 
2013-06-20 09:30:18 AM

QT_3.14159: My daughter had eczema when she was a baby, but it went away completely after she stopped getting regular vaccinations when she 4 or so. She's 16 now and there's been no sign of it in a while.

Several members of my family have pretty bad cases, though. I've heard that tanning helps reduce outbreaks, have any of you experienced that?


I had a cousin with severe psoriasis that ran in her family. The dermatologist gave her a lotion to use that was mostly coal tar. It sounds nasty, but it really helped. She also did reasonable exposure times under a "sun lamp" (I'd never seen one before- this was in the 60s). Although her skin still looked mottled, it didn't bother her. She always did wear long sleeves, though. The condition went away completely by the time she was in her late twenties.
 
2013-06-20 09:49:23 AM

MarshWoman: QT_3.14159: My daughter had eczema when she was a baby, but it went away completely after she stopped getting regular vaccinations when she 4 or so. She's 16 now and there's been no sign of it in a while.

Several members of my family have pretty bad cases, though. I've heard that tanning helps reduce outbreaks, have any of you experienced that?

I had a cousin with severe psoriasis that ran in her family. The dermatologist gave her a lotion to use that was mostly coal tar. It sounds nasty, but it really helped. She also did reasonable exposure times under a "sun lamp" (I'd never seen one before- this was in the 60s). Although her skin still looked mottled, it didn't bother her. She always did wear long sleeves, though. The condition went away completely by the time she was in her late twenties.


Coal tar is a common active ingredient in dandruff shampoos. How some figured that out has for to have some kind of story to it.
 
2013-06-20 03:04:10 PM

MarshWoman: Antibiotics are so overused. In a large number of cases, I doubt they're really called for. When my sons were little, I remember other mothers insisting that you should pump a kid full of tylenol and "the pink medicine" (amoxicillan) when they got a cold. I told one mother that antibiotics did nothing to fight a virus, and reducing a low-grade fever robbed the body of its best defense against a virus. She looked at me funny- maybe because of all that complicated "book larnin". My kids got cool-mist humidifiers in their room, plenty of fluids and popsicles, and tylenol if their fever went over 101F. If doctors keep caving in to stupid parents and over-prescribing antibiotics, I think we'll see a lot more super bugs, skin disorders, and other serious long-term effects.


Hopefully studies like this will empower doctors to refuse antibiotic prescriptions to patients who don't need them. They give them out to get patients to get them to shut up, or worse, to keep them from switching to a doctor who will. But if we have the scientific data (common sense data has been around for quite some time) to indicate that giving antibiotics to a healthy individual or to treat something it has zero ability to affect will have serious health implications, then we'll have enough doctors on board to keep people from feeding unnecessary drugs to their kids.

The anti-bacterial craze definitely contributed to problems like this. When I was a kid - talking 80's and 90's here, almost onion-on-belt territory but not quite - we never heard of a kid stop breathing after being near peanut butter, milk, or chocolate. You'd have an allergic kid here and there but it was usually just hives and they simply had to make sure not to eat the allergen. We didn't need peanut-free tables or entire class units having to restrict allergens in their lunches because some kid would have an anaphylactic reaction if they got a whiff of chocolate.

Fear is great for overriding people's judgement. That's partly why the talk about antibiotics not killing viruses and low-grade fevers being useful doesn't register. Not really difficult concepts, but when people are running on fear that higher-brain part is not really operating.
 
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