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(Lexington Herald Leader)   To appeal to foodie wannabes, fast food chains and industrial food suppliers are engineering new generation of "rustic" pizzas and "hand-sliced" ham, lab-crafted, distressed and machine-cut to look homemade   (kentucky.com) divider line 104
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2013-06-20 07:19:46 AM

hlehmann: Dwight_Yeast: UsikFark: I think it was 6.99, probably made by the same company that makes all the other non-stamped "ergonomic" can openers but decals on a different name for a different price. I can easily see a can opener going for $20 if it had the right brand on it. Here is a $21 bottle opener: Link and a $50 manual can opener Link
Rethink Possible.

Oh, oh dear.  that's a piece of shiat.  Go buy yourself an OXO smooth-edge can opener.

I don't even know who owns KitchenAid today, but their mixers still seem to be okay.  Originally, they were an off-shoot of Hobart, and the home mixers were a small version of these beasts:

[www.deliciousmusings.com image 850x1133]

/My mother has a KitchenAid that's six or eight years older than I am, which makes it at least 40.

The old KitchenAid mixers were built like battleships.  Any sold within the past ten years or so are pieces of crap.  KitchenAid, like all good American companies, has decided to rely on its brand image rather than make a good product.  The gears in the mixers used to be made of metal; now they're made of plastic.


Depends on the model. I just picked up a Professional series mixer a couple of months ago. All steel transmission. I'm quite pleased with it.
 
2013-06-20 07:23:30 AM

mike_d85: 4 words:
Tostito's Artisanal Tortilla Chips.

/"Artisanal" means nothing


Art is Anal?
 
2013-06-20 07:26:55 AM
FTA:   Ultimately, Moore said the change didn't really impact the taste.  Because it still tastes like cooked feet.

\Loves to cook
\\Hates douchebag "foodie" people
\\\

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/06/17/2681934/food-companies-work-to-mak e -it.html#storylink=cpy
 
2013-06-20 07:35:29 AM

gittlebass: [img.hsmagazine.net image 500x500]


I chuckled.
 
2013-06-20 07:44:39 AM
Sounds like hipster shiat.
 
2013-06-20 07:50:43 AM

voodoohotdog: mike_d85: 4 words:
Tostito's Artisanal Tortilla Chips.

/"Artisanal" means nothing

Art is Anal?


Film students have been telling models that for years.
 
2013-06-20 07:56:21 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: not5am: gadian: I think if you care more about how your food looks than how it tastes, you're doing it really wrong.  Unless it looks like vomit.  I've been to a lot of fancy diners where people insist on serving vomit.  That helps no one.  For the record, anything with bits of tofu or couscous looks like vomit.

iirc, fast food nation has an anecdote about a psychological experiment with food. they had volunteers eat steaks dyed green, but wasn't aware of the color because the room was lit in green light. the initial reactions were positive, everyone liked the steak. then they switched from green to white light, and all the volunteers expressed being ill. like they say, presentation is everything.

It is a good evolutionary move to be repulsed by green meat.


Probably a sort of "uncanny valley" effect, much like how the uncanny valley comes from how humans recognize other humans, but know to avoid corpses.

We are wired to know what our food should look like, or at least recognize what's probably good and probably bad.  Green meat = bad.   The entire thing about the appearance of food affecting its taste probably plays into it.
 
2013-06-20 08:19:03 AM
How pathetic your life must be if you're a "foodie wannabe".

Being a "foodie" is the epitome of failure. And there are some people who can't even manage that?
 
2013-06-20 08:27:07 AM
People won't eat gray Cheetos. They tested it during attempts to ban yellow 5, and without the food coloring, people thought Cheetos were more disgusting than usual. Appearance does matter!

/why they color margarine
//gray, chemically created foods are usually pretty nasty before they are "touched up"
 
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2013-06-20 08:30:44 AM

gadian: I think if you care more about how your food looks than how it tastes, you're doing it really wrong.  Unless it looks like vomit.  I've been to a lot of fancy diners where people insist on serving vomit.  That helps no one.  For the record, anything with bits of tofu or couscous looks like vomit.


mmmmm, i'm making beef stroganoff tonight.
 
2013-06-20 08:30:52 AM
My favorite food scam is charging a premium for the most common breed of beef cow in the U.S.  Get your Angus suckers!
 
2013-06-20 08:35:02 AM

gadian: I think if you care more about how your food looks than how it tastes, you're doing it really wrong.  Unless it looks like vomit.  I've been to a lot of fancy diners where people insist on serving vomit.  That helps no one.  For the record, anything with bits of tofu or couscous looks like vomit.


img.fark.net

MMm.. delicious pork tofu vomit
 
2013-06-20 08:35:37 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: UsikFark: illannoyin: 

Don't be farkin' dissin' on my KitchenAid, mofo.  I will CUT you.


Fine then but I will.  A few years ago, I was getting my start in life, living by myself, barely scraping by.  I had to buy a number of basic things to have a working, liveable kitchen.  Despite being broke, I opted to "spend a little more" and buy recognizable name brands for certain things, like kitchen utensils and cooking supplies, under the misguided belief that it's better to pay a little more now for something that lasts.

The KitchenAid stuff is crap, no better than the much cheaper generic stuff in terms of durability and function.  Period.  I paid more for stuff that never worked quite right and/or broke and had to be replaced within a year or two.  The brand name's reputation is an illusion.
 
2013-06-20 08:38:03 AM

LordOfThePings: Yum?

[img.fark.net image 500x333]


Yes.
 
2013-06-20 08:52:50 AM

hlehmann: The old KitchenAid mixers were built like battleships.  Any sold within the past ten years or so are pieces of crap.  KitchenAid, like all good American companies, has decided to rely on its brand image rather than make a good product.  The gears in the mixers used to be made of metal; now they're made of plastic.


Well said. I have a KitchenAid K-45 mixer that my parents purchased in January, 1974, and it still works like it's brand new and have never had even the slightest problem with it. The sales receipt shows the cost was $101.72, including tax.
 
2013-06-20 08:52:56 AM
Things must be pretty good in America if people have time to complain about this.
 
2013-06-20 08:55:40 AM

MrHappyRotter: Benevolent Misanthrope: UsikFark: illannoyin: 

Don't be farkin' dissin' on my KitchenAid, mofo.  I will CUT you.

Fine then but I will.  A few years ago, I was getting my start in life, living by myself, barely scraping by.  I had to buy a number of basic things to have a working, liveable kitchen.  Despite being broke, I opted to "spend a little more" and buy recognizable name brands for certain things, like kitchen utensils and cooking supplies, under the misguided belief that it's better to pay a little more now for something that lasts.

The KitchenAid stuff is crap, no better than the much cheaper generic stuff in terms of durability and function.  Period.  I paid more for stuff that never worked quite right and/or broke and had to be replaced within a year or two.  The brand name's reputation is an illusion.


My KitchenAid stand mixer is fantastic. Yes, if you buy the Walmart special $99 on sale model, you will get shiat. (shiat, by the way that lasts though 5 years of heavy use, including pasta, sausge, and bread.). If, however, you buy the more expensive "Pro" model, with the metal gears and better tranny, it is absolutely worth it. If you need a stand mixer at all.

Seriously - it's like comparing my Waring Pro restaurant grade stick blender with the Waring $10 stick blender you can get at Walmart. All brands have quality lines and shiatty lines. Choose wisely.
 
2013-06-20 08:56:01 AM
What will they come up with next? Intentionally fading and distressing jeans?
 
2013-06-20 08:57:03 AM

xria: They would be packaging the product in some budget supermarket Ice Cream boxes, then once those were done a load of premium brand Ice Cream (which were the actual owners of the factory), and then some mid-brand cartons. Nothing during the process actually changed apart from the labels on the packaging.


You know, I've heard this claim many times about food, and I'm even sympathetic to the idea that it's true, but I've been grocery shopping for a couple of decades and have tried a lot of different products and I just don't see (or taste) the evidence that the practice is at all widespread.  Perhaps the less expensive repackaged brands are kept out of same stores/regions that also carry the premium product and therefore I've never ran into two ice creams (or whatever food) being exactly the same with different labels and price points.   People say this all the time about store brands and generics, but I've yet to taste a store brand that was exactly the same as any of the name brand products in the same store.  We prefer some of the store brands, actually.

Now, when it comes to appliances and electronics, one can clearly see nearly identical products with different brand names.   One just needs to order a replacement part.
 
2013-06-20 09:00:01 AM
on fast food being manufactured to look more "real"
it's fast food...it's always been manufactured...if anyone thinks the turkey on their jack-in-the-box turkey panini is handsliced by folks who care in the kitchen, then they're stupid. with that said, as a lifelong lover of fastfood, i must say that now more than ever you can find some good variety in a fast food restaurant. is it chef-quality high end stuff? nope. but it's good for what it is...inexpensive convenience food.

on kitchenaid
i have no doubt that, like most other things, the quality has slipped over the years in favor of cheaper parts and labor. unfortunately that's the world we live in. however, the $200 i spent 3 years ago on my wife's kitchenaid mixer for our anniversary was $200 well spent. it works well for home use, has all the power we'll ever need, and most importantly she's far happier with it than she was with the cuisenart stand mixer her grandmother had bought her.

we've been thru 2 electric & 3 manual can openers in 5 years, none of which worked well from the start. recently bought the $6.99 kitchenaid manual, have opened 1 can with it, and it's by far the easiest/quickest can opening experience i've had in 5 years

on appliances
just bought a 7.whateverfraction cu. ft. chest freezer. name on the label is IGLOO...never knew they had a line of freezers...looks exactly like any other basic model 7 cu. ft. chest freezer...kenmore, ge, etc. probably IS the exact same. but i got it on sale at best buy for about $25 cheaper than any other brand i'd looked at.

on brands
i've worked at a factory bakery...yes there would be 5 different labels/bags, ranging from generic brands to fancier brands, being filled on the same conveyer belt from the same batch.
 
2013-06-20 09:06:24 AM

DrBrownCow: xria: They would be packaging the product in some budget supermarket Ice Cream boxes, then once those were done a load of premium brand Ice Cream (which were the actual owners of the factory), and then some mid-brand cartons. Nothing during the process actually changed apart from the labels on the packaging.

You know, I've heard this claim many times about food, and I'm even sympathetic to the idea that it's true, but I've been grocery shopping for a couple of decades and have tried a lot of different products and I just don't see (or taste) the evidence that the practice is at all widespread.  Perhaps the less expensive repackaged brands are kept out of same stores/regions that also carry the premium product and therefore I've never ran into two ice creams (or whatever food) being exactly the same with different labels and price points.   People say this all the time about store brands and generics, but I've yet to taste a store brand that was exactly the same as any of the name brand products in the same store.  We prefer some of the store brands, actually.

Now, when it comes to appliances and electronics, one can clearly see nearly identical products with different brand names.   One just needs to order a replacement part.


truth. i also believe they mix it up regionally, or something to that effect.

there are some store brands i'd just as soon have as the name brand, but the problem is the "premium" store brands typically cost really close to the name brand prices these days (ahem, target's archer farms!). there are some things we're very happy paying less for...some store brands we do like better than or at least as well as the name brands, and some things that we MUST get the name brand for.

we buy a large amount of our staple foods at aldi. my 3 year old son prefers aldi's shells and cheese macaroni to velveeta's, and it's 1/2 the price
 
2013-06-20 09:18:40 AM
Things may have changed in the last 30+ years, but I found it interesting that one of the examples of processed foods that they cited was the "round discs" used in Egg McMuffins.  Those eggs were probably the least processed thing on McD's menu way back when I worked the grill.  I'm not vouching for English muffin, cheese or Canadian bacon, but the eggs came in fresh (i.e., in the shell).  Crack egg into ring, break yolk, a little water for steam and cover.  That was it.  At the time, McD's took some pride in being the only fast food place (at least in our little town) that actually used fresh eggs.
 
2013-06-20 09:20:50 AM
I really like the Carving Board line of meats. They taste great and a welcome change from the decades of thin deli slices. By the way, they are way more expensive, and worth it. That doesn't make me a foodie wannabe.
 
2013-06-20 09:25:10 AM

muwaryer: Things may have changed in the last 30+ years, but I found it interesting that one of the examples of processed foods that they cited was the "round discs" used in Egg McMuffins.  Those eggs were probably the least processed thing on McD's menu way back when I worked the grill.  I'm not vouching for English muffin, cheese or Canadian bacon, but the eggs came in fresh (i.e., in the shell).  Crack egg into ring, break yolk, a little water for steam and cover.  That was it.  At the time, McD's took some pride in being the only fast food place (at least in our little town) that actually used fresh eggs.


i always crack up at the photoshop pic of the egg loaf thing being sliced to make egg mcmuffins, knowing since i was a child that the egg on that sandwich was the freshest, least processed thing mcdonalds has on the menu. it's so cheap and easy to make an egg like that, why bother having some manufacturing process for it?
 
2013-06-20 09:28:42 AM

Aulus: UsikFark: illannoyin: 'Foodie wannabes'? You mean people who like food but are too poor to afford artisan foods but would like to?

It's like designer imposter perfume that you can eat.

It's called brand aspiration. Kitchenaid makes good stuff, right? So a company like Kitchenaid produces a couple items that are only sold at Kmart and Target so they can get a slice of lower-income purchasers who don't have $300 for a mixer but might have $20 for a can opener. Likewise, a company that makes $400-1000 purses can sell $60 sunglasses with a huge logo on the temples.
/has a new Kitchenaid manual can opener that is rusting through the chrome finish

Old news.  Back in the sixties, when my mom was working part-time in housewares and appliances at Sears, she learned that Sears' Kenmore stuff was actually made by the big appliance companies and was pretty much the same as those brands.  Back then, at least, every year, Sears would have a bidding contest among appliance manufacturers as to who would make that year's Kenmore stuff.  One year it would be Kitchenaid, the next GE, the next someone else.   The same was true with power tools in hardware and automotive stuff.

About twelve years ago, I had a summer temp job at the Sears.com office in West Des Moines and found it was still the case.


And probably each year, GE and Kitchen aid having a bidding contest to see which group of Chinese children will actually make their product.
 
2013-06-20 09:42:32 AM

not5am: gadian: I think if you care more about how your food looks than how it tastes, you're doing it really wrong.  Unless it looks like vomit.  I've been to a lot of fancy diners where people insist on serving vomit.  That helps no one.  For the record, anything with bits of tofu or couscous looks like vomit.

iirc, fast food nation has an anecdote about a psychological experiment with food. they had volunteers eat steaks dyed green, but wasn't aware of the color because the room was lit in green light. the initial reactions were positive, everyone liked the steak. then they switched from green to white light, and all the volunteers expressed being ill. like they say, presentation is everything.


At the extremes it is. But a green piece of steak is not at the same level of presentation as a slightly less round pizza.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:09 AM
What's next?????

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-20 10:03:00 AM

greggm59: I have a KitchenAid K-45 mixer that my parents purchased in January, 1974, and it still works like it's brand new and have never had even the slightest problem with it. The sales receipt shows the cost was $101.72, including tax.


That would be about 480 in today's dollars, which sounds about right.   Our KitchenAid mixer was $300 ten years ago and it is going strong.  I don't know if it has plastic or metal gears, but I think it could double as a blacksmith's anvil.
 
2013-06-20 10:11:24 AM
When I was in grad school I bought a crappy duplex in a terrible neighborhood.  I worked in a bakery all through high school and college, so I wanted a nice mixer and did a bunch of research and got a 'good' KitchenAid. I wanted a bowl lift instead of the tilt head and made sure to get one with metal gears and such.  I trolled sales flyers and finally found a killer deal for the good model at a discount store.  It still represented a huge purchase for me.

It turned out to be the nicest thing in that crap-hole.  In the ~13 years since I've since gotten married, lived a few different places and replaced almost every other possession at least once.  But that mixer is on my counter at home and I'm confident it will still be there ready to kneed dough or whip up a merringue at a moment's notice.

You don't always get what you pay for, but sometimes the more expensive stuff really is better.
 
2013-06-20 10:11:38 AM
2nd order simulacra?
 
2013-06-20 10:22:33 AM

Parkanzky: When I was in grad school I bought a crappy duplex in a terrible neighborhood.  I worked in a bakery all through high school and college, so I wanted a nice mixer and did a bunch of research and got a 'good' KitchenAid. I wanted a bowl lift instead of the tilt head and made sure to get one with metal gears and such.  I trolled sales flyers and finally found a killer deal for the good model at a discount store.  It still represented a huge purchase for me.

It turned out to be the nicest thing in that crap-hole.  In the ~13 years since I've since gotten married, lived a few different places and replaced almost every other possession at least once.  But that mixer is on my counter at home and I'm confident it will still be there ready to kneed dough or whip up a merringue at a moment's notice.

You don't always get what you pay for, but sometimes the more expensive stuff really is better.


truth. even with the supposed drop in quality mentioned in this thread, there is NOTHING in the way of made-for-household-use mixers like a kitchenaid. the cuisenart my wife had didn't even compare to the style, power, and heft of the kitchenaid (it's better not to have a mixer that's easily moved)
 
2013-06-20 11:17:48 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: UsikFark: illannoyin: 'Foodie wannabes'? You mean people who like food but are too poor to afford artisan foods but would like to?

It's like designer imposter perfume that you can eat.

It's called brand aspiration. Kitchenaid makes good stuff, right? So a company like Kitchenaid produces a couple items that are only sold at Kmart and Target so they can get a slice of lower-income purchasers who don't have $300 for a mixer but might have $20 for a can opener. Likewise, a company that makes $400-1000 purses can sell $60 sunglasses with a huge logo on the temples.
/has a new Kitchenaid manual can opener that is rusting through the chrome finish

Don't be farkin' dissin' on my KitchenAid, mofo.  I will CUT you.


My last three can openers have stripped the gears so they just spin instead of opening the Goddamn can. Why do you have plastic gears?? Fark you KitchenAid!
I've been using a P-38 for the last year for all my can opening needs.
 
2013-06-20 11:32:32 AM

hlehmann: The gears in the mixers used to be made of metal; now they're made of plastic.


It might be more than intial manufacturing cost savings.  Just speculation, but, a set of plastic gears, depending on the type of plastic and mode of manufacturing, would give the motor a easy point to fail.  The gear would break before you could damage the motor.  A metal gear might not break before damaging the engines.  Replacing a gear is a lot better than replacing the entire motor.

Does anyone know what kind of warranty the plastic geared mixers have?
 
2013-06-20 11:43:11 AM
To answer a question above, Kitchenaid is now owned by Whirlpool.
 
2013-06-20 12:06:25 PM

ggecko: What's next?????

[i.imgur.com image 850x1133]


Dude, that's totally NSFW. Even though it's not what it looks like, it's what it looks like that counts. LOL
 
2013-06-20 01:05:16 PM

manimal2878: And probably each year, GE and Kitchen aid having a bidding contest to see which group of Chinese children will actually make their product.


GE actually makes a lot of its products in the USA.   I recall a story about a year ago where they stated for some products it is cheaper in the early to mid-life cycle to manufacture in the USA because of the more direct input the workers and engineers can have on improving costly/inefficient designs and manufacturing procedures.  Specifically, their new water heaters were brought back to the USA after several costly years being manufactured overseas.  If they were still being made in China (or whereever) those cost-savings and design improvements wouldn't have happened due to the difficultly communicating and negotiating with multiple foreign factories.
 
2013-06-20 01:23:34 PM
I was wondering about this in regards to Trader Joe's home style flour tortillas. They are all different shapes. I was thinking they have a machine that makes them in imperfect shapes to make them look home made.
 
2013-06-20 02:14:21 PM

Chainsaw Turd Elf: I was wondering about this in regards to Trader Joe's home style flour tortillas. They are all different shapes. I was thinking they have a machine that makes them in imperfect shapes to make them look home made.


interesting. i assume these prepackaged torillas, not some you can pick up at the bakery counter? i was in our super ginormous kroger yesterday in north ft worth, and i noticed they have a tortilleria in-house making fresh flour and corn tortillas, and doing things like cinnamon and sugar tortillas. next time i'll have to try some.
 
2013-06-20 02:48:15 PM
On the kitchenaide home mixers. I have two from when Hobart owned the company. They claim that the plastic gear (singular) in the newer models are to protect the motor from burning out. The gear strips, has to be replaced, but no further damage happens. At least that is the spin. Sorta like "Corning" or whomever they are called on the consumer side changing the borosilicate formulation in the states to be cheaper, but keeping the older and better formulation in Europe.
 
2013-06-20 02:52:18 PM
Hey, no hate on Hillshire. I could live (briefly before having a fat induced heart attack) on their cheddar wurst.
I can get great and awesome brats living in Wisconsin, but there is something about the chemical cheese and cheap animal parts in their cheddar wurst that I love.
 
2013-06-20 03:55:54 PM
I only eat all un-natural, inorganic food. No Angus for me, I prefer retired dairy cow Guernsey. Cheese Whiz out of a can, instead of Vermont Cheddar. One molecule away from plastic margarine, instead of butter. Cheap dollar store bologna or hot dogs, on white bread hot dog buns, with whatever's on sale yellow mustard. I eat good, and my large puss gut stomach proves it.
 
2013-06-20 04:09:34 PM

MythDragon: My last three can openers have stripped the gears so they just spin instead of opening the Goddamn can. Why do you have plastic gears?? Fark you KitchenAid!



You need on of these swing-a-way can openers. They're seven bucks on Amazon and I'm still using the one that I took to college 29 years ago.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 04:53:51 PM

Fear the Clam: MythDragon: My last three can openers have stripped the gears so they just spin instead of opening the Goddamn can. Why do you have plastic gears?? Fark you KitchenAid!


You need on of these swing-a-way can openers. They're seven bucks on Amazon and I'm still using the one that I took to college 29 years ago.
[img.fark.net image 435x450]


BANG
 
2013-06-20 04:58:03 PM
Lab-crafted meat...why does that sound so familiar?
 

Speaking of food, should foods containing GMO's be allowed to be labelled "all-natural"?
 
2013-06-20 05:30:02 PM

DrBrownCow: xria: They would be packaging the product in some budget supermarket Ice Cream boxes, then once those were done a load of premium brand Ice Cream (which were the actual owners of the factory), and then some mid-brand cartons. Nothing during the process actually changed apart from the labels on the packaging.

You know, I've heard this claim many times about food, and I'm even sympathetic to the idea that it's true, but I've been grocery shopping for a couple of decades and have tried a lot of different products and I just don't see (or taste) the evidence that the practice is at all widespread.  Perhaps the less expensive repackaged brands are kept out of same stores/regions that also carry the premium product and therefore I've never ran into two ice creams (or whatever food) being exactly the same with different labels and price points.   People say this all the time about store brands and generics, but I've yet to taste a store brand that was exactly the same as any of the name brand products in the same store.  We prefer some of the store brands, actually.

Now, when it comes to appliances and electronics, one can clearly see nearly identical products with different brand names.   One just needs to order a replacement part.


You would not notice that 'sameness' unless you had those products in front and tested them blindly all at the same time without packaging. I worked for 2 quality control labs (one independent, one large supermarket one)...

What the other poster said is true... One ice cream maker will make their own brand and then put up the same ice cream in store brand labels. Dairy products like milk as well... Check the plant codes among store and big label milk... See if they are the same. It's usually a couple of letters/numbers hyphenated with several additional numbers. If they're the same one is putting the other up. One supermarket dairy used to put up the big name in my area in their stores... So people paid the extra 50 or 75 cent premium for a name label.

Certainly buy things if they taste or perform better, but always try out a comparable store brand of the same level of quality...
 
2013-06-20 05:33:12 PM

bungle_jr: Chainsaw Turd Elf: I was wondering about this in regards to Trader Joe's home style flour tortillas. They are all different shapes. I was thinking they have a machine that makes them in imperfect shapes to make them look home made.

interesting. i assume these prepackaged torillas, not some you can pick up at the bakery counter? i was in our super ginormous kroger yesterday in north ft worth, and i noticed they have a tortilleria in-house making fresh flour and corn tortillas, and doing things like cinnamon and sugar tortillas. next time i'll have to try some.


Both HEB and Kroger will have fresh tortillas in their stores in Texas. One of the things I miss having just moved from Houston/Galveston to Detroit.

Some suggestions:
Stick with the plain flour or corn types. Avoid the butter ones. The cayenne ones can be hit or miss.

Be careful if they are still hot from the store. Open the bag and let dry a bit before refrigeration.

They are easily toasted using a dry pan.

The microwave can be used for quick tortilla cheese rollups.

The flour tortillas need to be toasted just shy of stiff for enchiladas, the corn need just a slight toasting.

The flour tortillas make for awesome grilled quesodillas. Load them up with grilled chicken or beef, some asadero cheese and a little pico (not salsa) and then grill them crispy. These are awesome.

Disclaimer: The above hints are for the fresh tortilla stands at the HEB/Kroger stores.Homemade,refrigerated manufactured or dry stored manufactured tortillas may act differently.
 
2013-06-20 05:44:47 PM

cardex: cyberspacedout: fusillade762: It's one reason why Wendy's softened the edges of its famously square hamburger patties. The Dublin, Ohio-based company says it changed the patty to a "natural square" with wavy edges because tasters said the straight edges looked processed.

Who the fark cares how their hamburger is shaped?

I'm wondering how anyone can think a hamburger *doesn't* look processed.

By sticking your head in the bulls ass ? Or was that a t bone


Wait.  It's gotta be your bull.

/Love that movie.
 
2013-06-20 07:43:48 PM
Available for angry comments on multinational companies attempting to pretend that they use real ingredients in their products...

www.takepart.com

/"Well what a surprise, a trust fund Hipster talking out of his ass!"
//"Well let me help you out, 'Spencer' or 'Linus' or whatever the fark your name is!"
 
2013-06-20 08:37:27 PM

ch13fwiggum: You would not notice that 'sameness' unless you had those products in front and tested them blindly all at the same time without packaging. I worked for 2 quality control labs (one independent, one large supermarket one)...

What the other poster said is true... One ice cream maker will make their own brand and then put up the same ice cream in store brand labels. Dairy products like milk as well... Check the plant codes among store and big label milk... See if they are the same. It's usually a couple of letters/numbers hyphenated with several additional numbers. If they're the same one is putting the other up.


At least three people have made this claim in this thread, but not a single specific example has been given.   Again, I'm open to the idea, but just because two products come out of the same "food factory" doesn't mean they don't change the specs/ingredients for certain batches.    Like I said above, if it is happening,my guess is that those same two products very rarely end up in the same store.
 
2013-06-21 12:43:10 AM

DrBrownCow: ch13fwiggum: You would not notice that 'sameness' unless you had those products in front and tested them blindly all at the same time without packaging. I worked for 2 quality control labs (one independent, one large supermarket one)...

What the other poster said is true... One ice cream maker will make their own brand and then put up the same ice cream in store brand labels. Dairy products like milk as well... Check the plant codes among store and big label milk... See if they are the same. It's usually a couple of letters/numbers hyphenated with several additional numbers. If they're the same one is putting the other up.

At least three people have made this claim in this thread, but not a single specific example has been given.   Again, I'm open to the idea, but just because two products come out of the same "food factory" doesn't mean they don't change the specs/ingredients for certain batches.    Like I said above, if it is happening,my guess is that those same two products very rarely end up in the same store.


Wow, take off the blinders. It's called the illusion of choice.  Learn it, live it.

I know for a fact that store brand canned food is made in the same lines as the name brand.  You're paying for the name.
 
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