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2013-06-20 06:11:32 AM  
I heard he would stay up all night and walk around with a rock in his shoe so he would always look pissed off during the Sopranos.
 
2013-06-20 06:17:25 AM  

Deep Contact: I heard he would stay up all night and walk around with a rock in his shoe so he would always look pissed off during the Sopranos.


You can't do that, you'll end up having a heart att...   oh. Never mind.
 
2013-06-20 06:37:48 AM  

StrikitRich: [img.fark.net image 160x240][img.fark.net image 600x251]

So sad to hear this about Jimmy, but  he should never have pulled a gun on Denzel.


He really looked like he wanted to shoot him in that scene. I always wondered how much of that was acting
 
2013-06-20 07:01:27 AM  
www.memecreator.org
 
2013-06-20 07:01:54 AM  

ParagonComplex: Carth: ParagonComplex: Carth: 51 is too young. Get in shape people being overweight is literally killing people everyday.

For real. Literally too young. People need to litereally get into shape. Being literally overweight litereally does literally kill people every day. Literally.

Also, talking about a person's weight the day they die literally makes you an ass.

Just like you can't talk about gun control on days of mass shootings right?

It's 100% certain that if a mass shooting takes place that a gun was involved. It isn't 100% certain that a person has a heart attack because of weight issues. Could have been heart disease or something else genetic. Even skinny people drop dead of heart attacks. I'd have said the same thing if you implied he was a drug addict or any thing else. Poor taste is poor taste.


But it is 100% certain that obesity increases the risk for heart attacks and kills thousands of people a year well before they need to die.

I agree we can't be sure Gandolfini died because of his weight but that doesn't mean it isn't worth mentioning. We can't be sure  gun control measures would stop mass shootings but it is still a topic talked about every time there is a tragedy. The reason both are brought up isn't out of disrespect to the dead but to try and preserve the living.

As for poor taste? You've been on fark 8 years. my comments are tasteful compared to many in RIP threads.
 
xcv
2013-06-20 07:14:57 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The Russian finally found his way out of the Pine Barrens


The series ending I can understand but the way the writers just left that storyline with all its potential bothered me.
 
2013-06-20 07:23:52 AM  

Babbs: rnatalie: RIP ALFONSO SORIANO
[disciplesofuecker.com image 500x420]

I wish this meme would die. I really hate it.



www.ilikeweirdstuff.com
RIP MEME
 
2013-06-20 07:29:58 AM  
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"Look, Tucker, you might be some scary little poodlefarker over in England, but out here you're nothing. You know what you look like? A squeezed dick. You got a big blue vein running up your head all the way to the temple. See, that's where I'd put the bullet. Only I'd have to stand back 'cause you look like a squirter."

RIP big man, 51 is way too young :(
 
2013-06-20 07:42:33 AM  

xcv: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The Russian finally found his way out of the Pine Barrens

The series ending I can understand but the way the writers just left that storyline with all its potential bothered me.


I used to feel the same way till I heard Chase's rationale for handling it that way - he was basically irritated (with some justification) at the way people expect every storyline to be resolved in what they consider a proper way. The way they did it adds an important sense of realism to the show, I think, since you don't always get that sense of closure in real life either.
 
2013-06-20 07:49:25 AM  
2 years younger than me

/i have chest pains
 
2013-06-20 08:22:35 AM  

dougfm: mechgreg: bulldg4life: What's the over/under on number of posts before someone tries to claim Tony Soprano doesn't die right at that black screen?

I'll take that one. He didn't die. A surprise twist where Tony dies is super hackey writing. And David Chase is a lot of things but he wasn't a hack.

Actually, he did. Gandolfini said they filmed a whole death scene for Tony and he was upset that they didn't use it.


If it's not in the show, then it's not in the show - it's not exactly unheard of for content to be considered (and even filmed) before being rejected in the end.

Personally I don't have strong feelings about whether or not Tony died per se (in that I don't particularly want him to have died or to not have died) - I just don't like the most popular explanation for how he was supposedly whacked. My biggest problem is with the clumsy and unsubtle lengths the show goes to make you suspicious of that one guy who goes to the bathroom. It's like with the opening scene in 24, or that creepy arson investigator in Dexter just to name a couple recent examples - whenever I see a show making such a conspicuous effort to make a guy stand out like that, I just assume that it's misdirection of some sort. I mean, it may even turn out that the guy actually does whack Tony, but it would just feel a little silly to me in the context of the scene.

My own interpretation is that Tony just straight up passes out, and then possibly has a heart attack while he's unconscious.
 
2013-06-20 08:41:16 AM  
Aww shiat.
 
2013-06-20 08:44:00 AM  

tuna fingers: aendeuryu: Biological Ali: astouffer: mechgreg: I'll take that one. He didn't die. A surprise twist where Tony dies is super hackey writing. And David Chase is a lot of things but he wasn't a hack.

The best explanation I've heard was that you the viewer, was whacked.

Hmm. I hadn't considered that. I think that might be my favourite interpretation too.

The viewer was meant to experience the feeling of being whacked through Tony, but to suggest that the show "whacked the viewers" is ridiculous.

There needs to be a word for people finding delight in an incorrect audience-focused interpretation.

For you to suggest only your interpretation is correct is asshattery.


Ok, sure, let's ignore all the careful work that went into the writing for the episodes setting up a striking finale, just because we think Chase wanted to indulge in some metafictional narrative stunt.

If you want to feel clever for that interpretation, go nuts. It's the intellectual equivalent of making sure even the losers get a medal in elementary school soccer games, but hey, it's your right.
 
2013-06-20 08:54:14 AM  
No Tony, do NOT go into the light!

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Aw, crap.
R.I.P.
 
2013-06-20 08:54:30 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com
RIP Tony
 
2013-06-20 09:13:56 AM  
Read his bio and you'll see what a sad, pathetic place the US has become.

James grew up in Park Ridge, NJ,  a suburb of New York City.  His parents were Italian immigrants.  His father was a mason, and his mother worked in the cafeteria if a local public school.   After high school, Gandolfini earned a degree from Rutgers University.

"So what?", you say.  A couple of generations ago, working class people could afford to BUY their own homes in neat little town, raise a family, and send their kids off to State U.  Today the average college grad would be hard pressed to buy a home in Park Ridge, and most kids leave school tens of thousands in debt.

So how's that supply side stuff working out for you Joe/Jane American?

/RIP Tony, and RIP America.
 
2013-06-20 09:22:16 AM  

Fissile: Read his bio and you'll see what a sad, pathetic place the US has become.

James grew up in Park Ridge, NJ,  a suburb of New York City.  His parents were Italian immigrants.  His father was a mason, and his mother worked in the cafeteria if a local public school.   After high school, Gandolfini earned a degree from Rutgers University.

"So what?", you say.  A couple of generations ago, working class people could afford to BUY their own homes in neat little town, raise a family, and send their kids off to State U.  Today the average college grad would be hard pressed to buy a home in Park Ridge, and most kids leave school tens of thousands in debt.

So how's that supply side stuff working out for you Joe/Jane American?

/RIP Tony, and RIP America.


Why don't you shut the fark up and go live in a favella in Brazil?
 
2013-06-20 09:32:05 AM  
i.imgur.com


RIP
 
2013-06-20 09:32:53 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Fissile: Read his bio and you'll see what a sad, pathetic place the US has become.

James grew up in Park Ridge, NJ,  a suburb of New York City.  His parents were Italian immigrants.  His father was a mason, and his mother worked in the cafeteria if a local public school.   After high school, Gandolfini earned a degree from Rutgers University.

"So what?", you say.  A couple of generations ago, working class people could afford to BUY their own homes in neat little town, raise a family, and send their kids off to State U.  Today the average college grad would be hard pressed to buy a home in Park Ridge, and most kids leave school tens of thousands in debt.

So how's that supply side stuff working out for you Joe/Jane American?

/RIP Tony, and RIP America.

Why don't you shut the fark up and go live in a favella in Brazil?


================

Shaddup, you mutt.  You know why dere ain't no mafia left in the dis country no more?  Because the farking bankers and Wall St operators stole everything for themselves.  They're the real organized crime.  Fugeddaboudit.
 
2013-06-20 09:35:51 AM  

Biological Ali: dougfm: mechgreg: bulldg4life: What's the over/under on number of posts before someone tries to claim Tony Soprano doesn't die right at that black screen?

I'll take that one. He didn't die. A surprise twist where Tony dies is super hackey writing. And David Chase is a lot of things but he wasn't a hack.

Actually, he did. Gandolfini said they filmed a whole death scene for Tony and he was upset that they didn't use it.

If it's not in the show, then it's not in the show - it's not exactly unheard of for content to be considered (and even filmed) before being rejected in the end.

Personally I don't have strong feelings about whether or not Tony died per se (in that I don't particularly want him to have died or to not have died) - I just don't like the most popular explanation for how he was supposedly whacked. My biggest problem is with the clumsy and unsubtle lengths the show goes to make you suspicious of that one guy who goes to the bathroom. It's like with the opening scene in 24, or that creepy arson investigator in Dexter just to name a couple recent examples - whenever I see a show making such a conspicuous effort to make a guy stand out like that, I just assume that it's misdirection of some sort. I mean, it may even turn out that the guy actually does whack Tony, but it would just feel a little silly to me in the context of the scene.

My own interpretation is that Tony just straight up passes out, and then possibly has a heart attack while he's unconscious.



Nah, they would have filmed that, if for no other reason than  to pull the rug out from the audience.
Throughout the show, we knew there was only one way Tony's life would end. The audience tuned in to see Tony get killed. They got what they wanted, but Chase just didn't indulge them with blood splatters and melodramatic wailing from Carmela, like you would see in countless other gangster stories.

Plus, nowadays, people kind of expect a misdirect. A bigger misdirect is for the character to do exactly what the audience thought they would do.
 
2013-06-20 09:53:57 AM  

hardinparamedic: tenpoundsofcheese: - someone asked you for statistics about the risks of a fat vs. skinny person dying of a heart attack

Uh, no. he did not. He asked me this:

jaytkay: Please educate us with statistics showing skinny and fat people are at equal risk of hard disease.

That's nothing what you say he asked me.

Next time, read a little better before you go off on a soapbox. You look less like an idiot.


I hardly think that's possible, from ≈  four kilos of dairy.
 
2013-06-20 09:56:23 AM  

stoli n coke: Nah, they would have filmed that, if for no other reason than to pull the rug out from the audience.
Throughout the show, we knew there was only one way Tony's life would end. The audience tuned in to see Tony get killed. They got what they wanted, but Chase just didn't indulge them with blood splatters and melodramatic wailing from Carmela, like you would see in countless other gangster stories.


See, I don't know about that, especially after reading about what Chase had to say re: people whining about the lack of "closure" after the Pine Barrens episode. The man clearly doesn't feel as though he has any obligation to resolve plots in the most intuitively satisfying ways.

I will concede that Tony being assassinated is probably the closest thing to how a show like that is typically "supposed" to end. I just don't think that it's clear that Chase would have necessarily wanted to close the show in such an obvious way. And even if Chase did have something in mind re: what "really" happens, I don't think the people who watch the show are under any obligation to accept it. It's what happens when you go with a deliberately ambiguous ending - if he wanted there to be a definitive answer (and I don't know that he did), then he should have given it in the show itself.

Then of course there's the interesting anecdote about the Journey guy, and the circumstances under which he let the show use that song in the end. Not necessarily definitive proof about what "really" happened, but Chase obviously said something to the guy which finally convinced him to come around.
 
2013-06-20 09:58:00 AM  

The_Warning: [img.fark.net image 460x276]

RIP Paul Gambaccini


Ah, the good days of Radio 1.


www.wtnphotos.com

R.I.P GABRIELA SABATINI
 
2013-06-20 10:05:58 AM  
the ending is a constrained choose your own adventure. they laid the pieces for a handful of very plausible outcomes. pick whichever you want most and think of that as the real ending of the show. there is no one right answer.

it's not the most satisfying way to end a show, but it is original and consistent with Chase's non-handholding style of writing.

/compare with Lost -- no one gives a shiat about the show anymore given how bad the ending was.
 
2013-06-20 10:09:56 AM  

LucklessWonder: djkutch: MayoSlather: ontariolightning: Sorry to hear that. Sucks for his family. My thoughts are with them.
However, The Wire > Deadwood> Oz > Six Feet Under ....................................................................  The Sopranos.

The Wire is overrated. The Sopranos is infinitely more watchable.

The Wire required an attention span longer than a gnat. That's why I gave up.

HBO makes great shows. I keep wondering when they will fark up.

John from Cincinatti


My husband and I actually loved that show. We wanted to hate it since it supposedly killed Deadwood, but we watched it and ended up loving it. You really had to just throw out any ideas about typical storytelling and just let it wash over you. The guy who played Al in "Married with Children", Ed something or other, was *fantastic* in that show.

HBO farked up when they cancelled Carnivale before any of the mysteries were revealed, when they cancelled Deadwood (no reason at all to do that, I don't give a crap what the excuse was, it was bullshiat), and when they cancelled Rome because it was expensive. So farking what? Look at GoT for fark's sake. It's hugely expensive and worth every frickin' penny.

Anyway, John from Cincinnati was a lot better than most people give it credit for, you just had to watch it on its own terms and not your own.
 
2013-06-20 10:15:09 AM  
I just watched 'The Juror' Tuesday night and saw him lying there dead with his throat cut open by Alec Baldwin, and now he really is dead.  That's F'd up.
 
2013-06-20 10:29:33 AM  

december: the ending is a constrained choose your own adventure. they laid the pieces for a handful of very plausible outcomes. pick whichever you want most and think of that as the real ending of the show. there is no one right answer.

it's not the most satisfying way to end a show, but it is original and consistent with Chase's non-handholding style of writing.

/compare with Lost -- no one gives a shiat about the show anymore given how bad the ending was.


Oh yeah? Well, Di Caprio was still dreaming at the end of Inception, so there.
 
2013-06-20 10:36:23 AM  

theurge14: I always liked those scenes in Sopranos where he would get all worked up about something and not say a word but just breath through his nose.  He could carry a scene with his nose breathing.  I might just go on a Sopranos marathon this weekend, I really miss that show.


Me too. I was actually wanting to do a Sopranos marathon for a while now, and now I have the most excellent excuse. I'm kind of afraid it will make me sad...
 
2013-06-20 10:36:30 AM  
Tonight he sings with the fishes

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2013-06-20 10:37:16 AM  
At 51?  But I thought he was a machine.  The Machine, rather.
 
2013-06-20 10:44:43 AM  
The last image was Meadow running in.
She killed him.

The whole series is tony dealing with the ideal maternal image in his and wanting to be loved by the women around him... and they want to kill him, or a disappointed by his life.

RIP tony pizzaria,
 
2013-06-20 10:49:11 AM  
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RIP LUCA BRASI
 
2013-06-20 11:01:46 AM  

valkore: peachpicker: Few actors Italians in recent memory have embodied an Italian character so fully as he did Tony Soprano. I enjoyed him in everything I found him in, and I will miss his work.

FTFY.


If that's all you took away from 86 episodes of nuanced, full-spectrum characterization, I honestly feel bad for you. It was a brilliant sustaned performance, and I'm far from the only one who thinks so. From The AV Club:

"Tony Soprano was, like all humans, a complicated mess, and James Gandolfini made the character the most complete realization of that ineffable human condition in the history of the medium. Beneath the superficial exterior of the 'mob boss'--as shallow an archetype as was ever created--Gandolfini found bottomless layers: the anxious father, the affection-starved son, an alternately loving and terrible husband, a helpless romantic, a coldblooded pragmatist, an arrested-adolescent goofball, a raging bull, and on and on. That he contained these multitudes so effortlessly is what made Tony Soprano real."
 
2013-06-20 11:44:11 AM  

december: the ending is a constrained choose your own adventure. they laid the pieces for a handful of very plausible outcomes. pick whichever you want most and think of that as the real ending of the show. there is no one right answer.

it's not the most satisfying way to end a show, but it is original and consistent with Chase's non-handholding style of writing.

/compare with Lost -- no one fanboys don't gives a shiat about the show anymore given how bad butthurt they got about the ending was.


FIFY
 
2013-06-20 11:56:29 AM  

texdent: Marlee Matlin
SHOCKED AT READING ABOUT THE UNTIMELY PASSING OF JAMES GANDOLFINI. A MAN OF ENORMOUS TALENT. WHAT SHOCKING AND SAD NEWS.


FTFY.

/Sorry, had to
 
2013-06-20 11:57:10 AM  
This news makes me so sad...that I never got into The Sopranos. I feel like I can't relate to anyone in this thread. Gandolfini's death is tough for me.
 
2013-06-20 12:00:35 PM  
Man, the ending of his show pissed me off.

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RIP James.
 
2013-06-20 12:10:13 PM  

silvervial: LucklessWonder: djkutch: HBO makes great shows. I keep wondering when they will fark up.

John from Cincinatti

My husband and I actually loved that show. We wanted to hate it since it supposedly killed Deadwood, but we watched it and ended up loving it. You really had to just throw out any ideas about typical storytelling and just let it wash over you. The guy who played Al in "Married with Children", Ed something or other, was *fantastic* in that show.

HBO farked up when they cancelled Carnivale before any of the mysteries were revealed, when they cancelled Deadwood (no reason at all to do that, I don't give a crap what the excuse was, it was bullshiat), and when they cancelled Rome because it was expensive. So farking what? Look at GoT for fark's sake. It's hugely expensive and worth every frickin' penny.

Anyway, John from Cincinnati was a lot better than most people give it credit for, you just had to watch it on its own terms and not your own.


I agree completely... I was totally hooked on that show! And, very bummed we never got to see just exactly WTF was up with John... An alien? The return of Jesus? In either case, why was he so interested in a family of farking surfers?? It was one of the strangest shows I've seen since probably "Twin Peaks", but damn I couldn't get enough of it!

And, yes, Ed O'Neill was awesome in it!

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"I've got my eye on you!"
 
2013-06-20 12:30:53 PM  
So what now, no more farkin' ziti?
 
2013-06-20 12:32:12 PM  
Headline should've been "James Gandolfini found      ".
 
2013-06-20 12:59:11 PM  
What're ya gonna do?
 
2013-06-20 01:06:51 PM  

thamike: F*CKING F*CK.


ALL, I was just reading this:

http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-d efinitive-explanat ion-of-the-end/

Kind of long but it's there if you want to check it out.
 
2013-06-20 01:07:33 PM  
Dusk-You-n-Me:   img.fark.net

Holsten's honors memory of @JamesGandolfini reserves table where final scene of #TheSopranos was shot. pic.twitter.com/JMf5xuFEra- John Klekamp (@JKlekamp) June 20, 2013

It looks like they have the key in it.

Hey!  I have a remote jukebox controller just like that.
I should sell it as being a Sopranos prop.
 
2013-06-20 01:38:37 PM  

NickelP: astouffer: mechgreg: I'll take that one. He didn't die. A surprise twist where Tony dies is super hackey writing. And David Chase is a lot of things but he wasn't a hack.

The best explanation I've heard was that you the viewer, was whacked.

Its years later and several interpretations are still commonly discussed. It meant whatever you wanted it to. It took tons of shiat at the time but what a way to let your series live on.


That's called lazy writing.
 
2013-06-20 01:59:18 PM  

jerrytaylor: Dang.

When I heard the news I was all like this:

[img.fark.net image 420x316]


So, you're the guy who submitted that article before me with an inadequate headline.
 
2013-06-20 02:02:26 PM  

Crewmannumber6: december: the ending is a constrained choose your own adventure. they laid the pieces for a handful of very plausible outcomes. pick whichever you want most and think of that as the real ending of the show. there is no one right answer.

it's not the most satisfying way to end a show, but it is original and consistent with Chase's non-handholding style of writing.

/compare with Lost -- no one gives a shiat about the show anymore given how bad the ending was.

Oh yeah? Well, Di Caprio was still dreaming at the end of Inception, so there.


What happened at the end of Vanilla Sky?
 
2013-06-20 02:42:48 PM  

NorCalLos: Crewmannumber6: december: the ending is a constrained choose your own adventure. they laid the pieces for a handful of very plausible outcomes. pick whichever you want most and think of that as the real ending of the show. there is no one right answer.

it's not the most satisfying way to end a show, but it is original and consistent with Chase's non-handholding style of writing.

/compare with Lost -- no one gives a shiat about the show anymore given how bad the ending was.

Oh yeah? Well, Di Caprio was still dreaming at the end of Inception, so there.

What happened at the end of Vanilla Sky?


He wakes up in the future, his face fixed, but his money all gone and everyone he knew and loved dead.  It's not exactly a cliffhanger, because they kinda straight up tell you what happens.
 
2013-06-20 02:42:59 PM  

NorCalLos: What happened at the end of Vanilla Sky?


I asked for 2+ hours of my life back.
 
2013-06-20 03:09:57 PM  

NorCalLos: What happened at the end of Vanilla Sky?


I woke up and turned off the TV
 
2013-06-20 03:19:46 PM  
Big deal. He was an actor that just about none of you even knew IRL. An actor. Meanwhile, thousands of people who spent their lives doing good for others died in anonymity and no one gives a shiat.

Also, is anyone really surprised? He was grossly overweight and didn't seem like he had too many healthy habits. That is what happens to you when you disrespect your body; you die too young.

I just don't get all the faux grief and sadness over an actor whose most famous role was a criminal maggot piece of shiat.
 
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