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(Politicus USA)   Last year, healthcare costs fell for the first time in forty years. THANKS OBAMA   (politicususa.com) divider line 293
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2013-06-20 01:00:03 AM
Let's just get to the core of the issue. Obama sucks and the people that still support him suck even more.
 
2013-06-20 01:02:26 AM

theknuckler_33: Stupid libs. Ever hear of the clam before the storm? The storm is coming and when it come it will be shoved down our throats!


Don't mix Absinthe with LSD.
 
2013-06-20 01:03:30 AM

inglixthemad: His biggest complaint was that the new generation wanted the perks (pay, prestige, et al.) without being willing to work the hard hours. He was a real old school doctor: house calls, being woken up in the middle of the night for emergencies, being on call as an Ob-Gyn, et al. Long hours and few vacations for 30 years. He knew how to rip an insurance rep a new strip as well.

Too bad more docs aren't like him, the medical profession would be all the better.


In a world where the country is fully insured, fewer people end up in the ED for their colds. They get preventative care so the polyp is removed, not the cancer. They're more employable.

And we'll need a buttload of primary care docs to do that grunt work. We're about to see Medicine become a very middle-class job. Not many smart people will want to put up with the demanding, self-destructive, undereducated patients that are 'Merica. And even fewer smart people will want to deal with the mandatory billing and insurance requirements to get adequate compensation. And even the stupid people won't want to deal with the frivolous lawsuits that are commonplace.

So, good luck to us all in 20 years. Our doctors will be rushed, undereducated, and overwhelmed.
And that is not Obama's fault, truly. It's the media, that teaches our population to be stupid and dependent.
 
2013-06-20 01:04:37 AM

Fart_Machine: I really don't think you know how inane your arguments are when put in front of you.


Why would I ask for less money?  my labor provides value to the company which they then use to make money.  If they felt like they were overcompensating me, they would let me know and then I could decide whether or not I wanted to stay or go.

No shareholder of a company is having trouble feeding their kids because of the general payroll of said company.  If there was no payroll, there'd be no employees to make money for the company.  If revenue is down, people are let go. If someone's labor doesn't bring the value to the company that the company pays them in salary, then equilibrium has to be found.

This has nothing to do with the original point which was "If a guy wants to own a house and have a family, thats his right and someone else has to pay for it"
 
2013-06-20 01:04:53 AM

tuna fingers: great_tigers: Because health cost benefits have decreased for those working. An MRI for my wife three years ago would have been an out of pocket cost of 100 bucks. Now it is 1100, we are too scared to see what her hip surgery will cost. We are choosing to deal with it.

Good for you!
I'm glad you are opting for choice.
I call bullshiat.

Three years ago, your wife was probably employed and now she isn't.  Or some other piece of the puzzle is missing.


You.  Suck on my nuts.

My insurance went up AND my doctor decided to implement a 500$ per person charge for the wife and I. WEEEEE.
Apparently, the doc has a lot of medicare patients, and was getting reamed.

Ask me if my insurance went down by $2500 like Big Joe and Barry said.

Go ahead.
 
2013-06-20 01:05:44 AM

o5iiawah: I never said that.


o5iiawah: So an able bodied man (A) owes a percentage of his wage to another able bodied man (B) how?


There's a scroll function on the side of your screen if you need it.
 
2013-06-20 01:08:09 AM

dmax: So, good luck to us all in 20 years. Our doctors will be rushed, undereducated, and overwhelmed.


....This is different from now...how exactly?
 
2013-06-20 01:09:12 AM

Evil High Priest: If only there were an interweb around when Social Security or Medicaid went into effect. Oh, the massive butthurt. And by year two it was the greatest thing ever. Good luck, fascists.


Yeah, exactly. In 1965 the same brand of handwringing Republitards and medical corporatists fearing for their inflated profits came up with bogus butthurt that looks remarkably similar to the warmed over butthurt over the ACA.  Lest we forget:



 This program could destroy private initiative for our aged to protect themselves with insurance against the cost of illness....Presently, over 60 percent of our older citizens purchase hospital and medical insurance without Government assistance. This private effort would cease if Government benefits were given to all our older citizens.
- Sen. Milward Simpson (R-WY).08/08/1965

 We oppose the Medicare program because foreign experience has shown that socialized medicine is harmful to both the doctor and the patient, primarily to the patient. He suffers most.
- Harry E. Northam, director of the Association of American Physicians.04/11/1965

 ...we cannot stand idly by now, as the Nation is urged to embark on an ill-conceived adventure in government medicine, the end of which no one can see, and from which the patient is certain to be the ultimate sufferer.
- Rep. Durward Hall (R-MO).04/08/1965

[The Medicare bill would] set up a health care program which served little or no necessary social purpose and which would be a direct, unwarranted and completely unfair intrusion in private enterprise.
-Dr. Clifford H. Keene, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan.

...the result of such programs in other countries had been over utilization of facilities and rising costs, and that as emphasis shifted from quality to cost, as it must under a publicly financed program, a deterioration in the quality of care is inescapable.
-Dr. Donovan Ward, President, American Medical Association. 04/01/1965

It is socialism. It moves the country in a direction which is not good for anyone, whether they be young or old. It charts a course from which there will be no turning back.
-"Senator Carl Curtis (R-NE), 1965.
aaaaand, finally, Saint Ronald:

Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business.
- Ronald Reagan

 
2013-06-20 01:09:14 AM

dmax: So, good luck to us all in 20 years. Our doctors will be rushed, undereducated, and overwhelmed.


Or maybe, just maybe, Americans are not stupider and lazier than the entire rest of the first world and we'll end up with OK medical service - just like every other first world nation. Hell, my English relatives will spend all day ripping the NHS but still consider the US healthcare system a global laughing stock.
 
2013-06-20 01:10:06 AM

dmax: inglixthemad: His biggest complaint was that the new generation wanted the perks (pay, prestige, et al.) without being willing to work the hard hours. He was a real old school doctor: house calls, being woken up in the middle of the night for emergencies, being on call as an Ob-Gyn, et al. Long hours and few vacations for 30 years. He knew how to rip an insurance rep a new strip as well.

Too bad more docs aren't like him, the medical profession would be all the better.

In a world where the country is fully insured, fewer people end up in the ED for their colds. They get preventative care so the polyp is removed, not the cancer. They're more employable.

And we'll need a buttload of primary care docs to do that grunt work. We're about to see Medicine become a very middle-class job. Not many smart people will want to put up with the demanding, self-destructive, undereducated patients that are 'Merica. And even fewer smart people will want to deal with the mandatory billing and insurance requirements to get adequate compensation. And even the stupid people won't want to deal with the frivolous lawsuits that are commonplace.

So, good luck to us all in 20 years. Our doctors will be rushed, undereducated, and overwhelmed.
And that is not Obama's fault, truly. It's the media, that teaches our population to be stupid and dependent.


Or - and this is just a passing thought - in twenty years, the people who practice medicine will do so because they want to prevent and cure disease ... instead of too many "specialists" being greedy, money-grubbing whores.

/During WWII, FDR threatened to draft every farking physician, nationalize medical schools, and crank out a few hundred thousand physicians.
 
2013-06-20 01:11:12 AM

o5iiawah: Why would I ask for less money? my labor provides value to the company which they then use to make money.


Everybody thinks they're the cog that holds the machine together.

o5iiawah: This has nothing to do with the original point which was "If a guy wants to own a house and have a family, thats his right and someone else has to pay for it"


Which gets to the point that keeps flying over your head.  Both you and the public employee are paid by their employer except you don't think they deserve a decent wage because taxes!!111 (which they pay as well).
 
2013-06-20 01:16:44 AM

Demonrats: Nadia Suleman should be living in a cardboard house with her 14 children. She used money designated for college to get preggers with 8 kids after she already had 6. The liberal Farker will gladly let her use tax money to reward her with a house, medical care, and food so she can possibly have a few more kids. Why not? Its what Fark Jesus would do.


Maybe, but her kids didn't ask to be born. Why not help the kids in the hope that they won't be as farked up?
 
2013-06-20 01:26:53 AM

tuna fingers: great_tigers: Because health cost benefits have decreased for those working. An MRI for my wife three years ago would have been an out of pocket cost of 100 bucks. Now it is 1100, we are too scared to see what her hip surgery will cost. We are choosing to deal with it.

Good for you!
I'm glad you are opting for choice.
I call bullshiat.

Three years ago, your wife was probably employed and now she isn't.  Or some other piece of the puzzle is missing.



Meh, I can see it. I've been with the same employer for over a decade, and citing the Affordable Care Act along with increases in cost, changes this last year were from individual deductibles for the family to a single deductible, prescriptions became subject to the decudtible, and my premiums doubled to keep the same effective coverage rates (though out of pocket maximums and deductible values did increase).  I know that my typical $50 copay for my montly prescriptions turned into $1800 in January and I hit my $5k family deductible by March.  As the only typical user of coverage in my family it realistically increased my out-of-pocket costs by $4200 annually.
 
2013-06-20 01:28:22 AM

Fart_Machine: except you don't think they deserve a decent wage


There's a scroll function to the right since yours obviously doensn't work.

o5iiawah: They should be paid a fair wage based on the compensation of similar trades/jobs in the area.



Fart_Machine: Everybody thinks they're the cog that holds the machine together.


Strawman (No surprise).  I never said I was indispensable - just that my labor provided an amount of value to the company which they willingly pay for.

Fart_Machine: Both you and the public employee are paid by their employer except you don't think they deserve a decent wage because taxes!!111 (which they pay as well).


And the point that keeps going over your head is that I cannot go to my employer and say, "I have a family to feed and a mortgage to pay, so I need more money."  If it sounds as dumb as it reads, then it must be one of your arguments.


I'd be inclined to go longer with you, if 8 of the top 11 wealthiest counties in the USA weren't in DC.  Your argument might hold a shred of validity but at this point, its like watching the dachshund try to mount and have his way with a sheep.  You really dont know what you're talking about even more so, you arent smart enough to know it.
 
2013-06-20 01:30:02 AM

themindiswatching: Maybe, but her kids didn't ask to be born. Why not help the kids in the hope that they won't be as farked up?


Help the kids.  I agree with that.

What is her debt to the society that is now taking care of her kids?
 
2013-06-20 01:37:00 AM

o5iiawah: I'd be inclined to go longer with you, if 8 of the top 11 wealthiest counties in the USA weren't in DC.


Because those represent the average as far as what public employees are paid.  Are you really that dumb?

o5iiawah: There's a scroll function to the right since yours obviously doensn't work.


So you didn't say what was quoted above?  I see that was made after you got called out on the original statement.   Now who is moving the goal posts.

o5iiawah: Strawman (No surprise). I never said I was indispensable - just that my labor provided an amount of value to the company which they willingly pay for.


You might want to look into what a strawman actually is.  And now you've shifted to "provide an amount of value to the company" instead of that you are an asset that makes them money (which is entirely subjective).  So you're not different at all from the guy being paid by the government except taxes!!1111

o5iiawah: And the point that keeps going over your head is that I cannot go to my employer and say, "I have a family to feed and a mortgage to pay, so I need more money."


The point was that they should be provided a decent wage.  Not exactly groundbreaking here.  I'm sure you value your labor to want a decent wage as well.
 
2013-06-20 01:40:59 AM

dropdfun: jaayjones: Wifes insurance went up 13% leaving me confused about the lower cost?

Now I don't feel so bad about our 9% increase. Also sucks that all our co pays have increased dramatically.


My dad has it worse. He has Medicaid and Part D, well... his doctor's thinking of dropping it, or retiring (and no one to replace him). Has issues with ANY specialist (mainly with Medicare)...
 
2013-06-20 01:43:12 AM

o5iiawah: like watching the dachshund try to mount and have his way with a sheep.


Also you should keep your fetishes to yourself.  Thanks.
 
2013-06-20 01:49:26 AM

firefly212: o5iiawah: Just raise the top income tax rate, levy a tax on so-called 'Cadillac' health plans, levy a tax on medical devices, Raid the VA and tri-care budget, take money out of medicare and put all that into the offset of consumer costs. In other words,  Raise taxes and use it to subsidize costs.  Ooh! but look at all the money I save!

firefly212: The reality for these towns is that taxes should be slightly higher, high enough that civil servants and public employees can feed their families, pay their mortgage AND go to the doctors office when they are sick. These aren't wacky demands from some lazy welfare queens

So an able bodied man (A) owes a percentage of his wage to another able bodied man (B) how?  Please explain the origin of that debt.  What then does B owe to A upon A's request?  B willingly chose to purchase a home and start a family. Why is it fair to A that he has to labor not only for his own family but for B?

Yes, you owe tax money from your wages to the government... You owe for police, you owe for fire, you owe for ambulances, you owe for roads that enable you to get to work, you owe for roads that enable your product to go to consumers from your work, you owe for the streetlights that owe those streets. The people who do those works, who do those jobs, are owed money, by you, for the performance of their duties.

Jesus Christ, are you like farking 4 or something?


I kinda thought that pretty much settled the argument, but it is nice of you to keep the 4 year entertained.
 
2013-06-20 02:06:13 AM
healthcare costs fell for the first time in forty years.

bizarrocentral.files.wordpress.com


OH NO NO NO PLEASE GOD HELP ME
 
2013-06-20 02:08:10 AM

Satanic_Hamster: 2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.

We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.


Leave your Mom out of it.
 
2013-06-20 02:09:07 AM

themindiswatching: Demonrats: Nadia Suleman should be living in a cardboard house with her 14 children. She used money designated for college to get preggers with 8 kids after she already had 6. The liberal Farker will gladly let her use tax money to reward her with a house, medical care, and food so she can possibly have a few more kids. Why not? Its what Fark Jesus would do.

Maybe, but her kids didn't ask to be born. Why not help the kids in the hope that they won't be as farked up?


Because hope is a lie and drowning them is cheaper.
 
2013-06-20 02:26:33 AM
Someone isn't listening to their:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-20 02:41:13 AM

Demonrats: If you want to lower health care costs stop serving people who can't afford it.


Only if you're willing to deny them *all* care, including emergency care.  You're having a heart attack? No treatment for you.  Just got mugged and stabbed? No insurance? You  can lay there and die.

Otherwise, you're wrong.  Very, very obviously proven-by-every-other-industrialized-country wrong.

And its glaringly obvious.  Typical American over 50: overweight, high blood pressure. You could give them four doctor visits a year and some meds, as part of an insurance policy that costs $4K or $5K a year. And if the person can afford to pay part of that, even better. They keep working and paying taxes.

Or just wait.  Let them have a heart attack.  Lay out $50K if they die fast, $100K or more if they don't.  Might be in a convalescent home for a couple of decades.  Not hard to rack up even higher costs if they survive, but barely.

Its as if you were paying $50 a month for internet access. The city you live in found out they could buy one contract to give everybody access, and your bill would drop to $40 a month.  But you don't like it, because some poors would be getting it for free, and why should you pay for them.
 
2013-06-20 02:45:05 AM

MisterRonbo: Demonrats: If you want to lower health care costs stop serving people who can't afford it.

Only if you're willing to deny them *all* care, including emergency care.  You're having a heart attack? No treatment for you.  Just got mugged and stabbed? No insurance? You  can lay there and die.

Otherwise, you're wrong.  Very, very obviously proven-by-every-other-industrialized-country wrong.

And its glaringly obvious.  Typical American over 50: overweight, high blood pressure. You could give them four doctor visits a year and some meds, as part of an insurance policy that costs $4K or $5K a year. And if the person can afford to pay part of that, even better. They keep working and paying taxes.

Or just wait.  Let them have a heart attack.  Lay out $50K if they die fast, $100K or more if they don't.  Might be in a convalescent home for a couple of decades.  Not hard to rack up even higher costs if they survive, but barely.

Its as if you were paying $50 a month for internet access. The city you live in found out they could buy one contract to give everybody access, and your bill would drop to $40 a month.  But you don't like it, because some poors would be getting it for free, and why should you pay for them.


But that's it, exactly.

The difference between Democrats and Republicans are simple:

Democrats would rather everyone get access to something, even if it means there's someone out there taking advantage of the system.

Republicans would deny everyone access to something because someone, somewhere, is taking advantage of the system.
 
2013-06-20 02:57:35 AM

xaveth: rkiller1: A one month year-over-year decrease in the medical costs inflation RATE does not a reduction make.  Call me when medical prices are falling or when it's -1C in Hell.

Why do you hate Hope n Change? You must be racist.


When you make specific assertions and criticisms, you'll find that allegations of racism mostly disappear. When you make a stupid and misspelled sign and rant while being unable to specifically articulate what you're angry about, people suspect his non-whiteness is behind it.

He shreds the Constitution!

How? [crickets].

He's stealing our country from us!

How? [crickets].

He's simultaneously the most diabolical yet somehow utterly incompetent president ever!

How? [crickets].

Look man, if you want to talk sh*t about Obama, go ahead. I do it all the time and I voted for the guy. Just make sure you have some specific grievances, or others will wonder what the motivation is.
 
2013-06-20 04:01:44 AM

dickfreckle: Look man, if you want to talk sh*t about Obama, go ahead. I do it all the time and I voted for the guy. Just make sure you have some specific grievances, or others will wonder what the motivation is


HURR after the NSA SCANDAL, if you are still supporting the DEMOCRATS you are a PARTISAN SHILL DURR Obama=BUSH DERPDERPDERPDERP
 
2013-06-20 04:07:21 AM
I don't have time for this. I'm too busy looking for a job after the unemployment rate skyrocketed after the last minimum wage increase. and since the right wing is always correct, I'll just assume that the article is some sort of dog and pony show to distract from Obamacare's failures.
 
2013-06-20 04:08:56 AM
Thank you Farkers for such a great late-night laugh.
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-20 04:09:49 AM

whidbey: HURR after the NSA SCANDAL, if you are still supporting the DEMOCRATS you are a PARTISAN SHILL DURR Obama=BUSH DERPDERPDERPDERP


That's one thing that has really helped me fill out my list of people who look for headlines they agree with, and my list of people who actually read the article and make minimal assumptions.
 
2013-06-20 04:19:32 AM

o5iiawah: firefly212: Yes, you owe tax money from your wages to the government... You owe for police, you owe for fire, you owe for ambulances, you owe for roads that enable you to get to work, you owe for roads that enable your product to go to consumers from your work, you owe for the streetlights that owe those streets. The people who do those works, who do those jobs, are owed money, by you, for the performance of their duties.

Jesus Christ, are you like farking 4 or something?

That question flew over your head apparently.

Your initial argument was that we should raise taxes to make everyone's lives better so they can afford families that they willingly started and mortgages that they willingly signed.  You then came back with saying that taxes fund streetlights, etc.  I have no issue with taxes funding the legitimate functions of government.

Try again without strapping an Atlas Rocket booster to the goalposts - Unless of course your end point is that taxes should be unlimited to fund whatever lifestyle choices anyone in society wishes to take on.


That wasn't my argument at all, my argument wasn't about "making everyone's lives better"... it was about paying public sector employees fair wages. Where the fark did you get that from?
 
2013-06-20 04:32:57 AM
I think the real solution is to hop on the internet under a pseudonym and copy & paste flawed arguments and don't sleep until the other anonymous person on the internet compares you to Hitler.
 
2013-06-20 04:53:25 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: It would be interesting to compare how the UK and Canada got to where they are, in terms of nationalized health care, to the USA; all three, IIRC, were entirely fee-for-service a century ago...


For Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada#The_beginning_of_c o verage
 
2013-06-20 04:53:45 AM
does this mean the healthcare bubble finally burst?
 
2013-06-20 05:47:55 AM

Deep Contact: Imagine how low health care would be if health insurance was outlawed.


Actually, the prices of firearms would be lowered.  Insurance rates would skyrocket if health insurance was outlawed.
 
2013-06-20 05:49:26 AM

Infernalist: Republicans would deny everyone access to something because someone, somewhere, is taking advantage of the system.


Particularly, them.
 
2013-06-20 06:46:37 AM
This coming from a site that touts its self as "Real Liberal" and an ass kisser of Obama's. Pardon me if I call bullshiat on it.
 
2013-06-20 06:56:14 AM
I always feel sorry for the idiots, bigots and assholes when stuff like this happens because, lets face it, one of the unifying facets of all these people is that they do not think they are idiots bigots or assholes so when reality is shoved in their faces showing what they think to simply not be true they must suffer greatly and feel the need to go onto a public forum and insult strangers.

Like the people who say "Gun control will never work" which is true everywhere except anywhere they have tried it, australia for example who enacted assault weapon control and instead of a high school massacre almost every year, they have not had a single one since the laws came in (16 years)

I have not read the thread. The butthurt must be strong with all the idiots, bigots and assholes and I`m having a nice day....
 
2013-06-20 07:01:58 AM

StopLurkListen: StopLurkListen: rkiller1: A one month year-over-year decrease in the medical costs inflation RATE does not a reduction make.

Valid point, but I don't know which point is true, the article is inconsistent.


Ah, the original WSJ is a lot clearer
 " The Labor Department's price index for medical care  [...] fell a seasonally adjusted 0.1% in May. The leading driver of last month's drop was a 0.6% contraction in prescription-drug costs "


There would be a bigger contraction in drug prices if the FDA didnt allow drug companies to market isomers of old drugs that aren't any better than the old ones. Then they tell the docs the standard dose should be twice as much.

I'm looking at you, Dexilant.
 
2013-06-20 07:11:30 AM
On what planet did this occur? Mine went up. Must be referring to the slackers that are on Medicaid.
 
2013-06-20 07:17:59 AM

Harry_Seldon: Satanic_Hamster: 2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.

We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.

Leave your Mom out of it.


You really should read the whole thread before posting.  Otherwise, you won't look like the dumb for using a joke that's already been used more heavily then your mother.

(she's been used to heavily it's like driving a mini-coop into the Chunnel)
 
2013-06-20 07:20:12 AM
Holy fail article batman.

Government paying less to doctors and hospitals, consumers paying more cost out of pocket = health care costs getting lower?

Freakin libs.
 
2013-06-20 07:26:20 AM

TheEvilOne23: This coming from a site that touts its self as "Real Liberal" and an ass kisser of Obama's. Pardon me if I call bullshiat on it.


The source for the story is the Wall Street journal.

Now that you know that, I'm certain you will take the time to link to the sourced story and form a well informed opinion.

Just kidding. I know you wont.
 
2013-06-20 07:27:50 AM

Pick: On what planet did this occur? Mine went up. Must be referring to the slackers that are on Medicaid.


I know right? I mean, If something doesn't happen to me personally, then it must be like that for everyone else!
 
2013-06-20 07:49:45 AM
My premiums went up less than 1% with no change in benefits. I have never seen my rates increase so little without a drastic cut in benefits.
 
2013-06-20 07:54:51 AM

Thunderpipes: Holy fail article batman.

Government paying less to doctors and hospitals, consumers paying more cost out of pocket = health care costs getting lower?

Freakin libs.


The WSJ is liberal now?

Oh COME ON.

I'd say you can do better than that, but no, not really.
 
2013-06-20 08:27:03 AM

firefly212: That wasn't my argument at all, my argument wasn't about "making everyone's lives better"... it was about paying public sector employees fair wages. Where the fark did you get that from?


No, you said that everyone ought to be able to afford to buy a home and have a family for no other reason than they punch a clock and do a job.  Why should someone's wage be a function of the lifestyle that they want?  Is a single person with no kids who rents an apartment deserving of a same wage if they do the same job as a breadwinner with a mortgage?

Fart_Machine: So you didn't say what was quoted above?


Yeah, I really didn't.  Are you literate?  we pay taxes so government can do things the private sector cannot do.  we dont pay taxes as a means of proving employment or sustaining the lifestyle that someone expects because of choices they willingly made.  I'm happy to pay local gasoline taxes to fund the roads where I live but it is moronic to suggest people pay higher taxes because all the guys on the road crew bought homes and started families.  Again, since you're retarded:  I cannot go to my boss and ask for a raise because I bought a house and need more money.

Fart_Machine: And now you've shifted to "provide an amount of value to the company" instead of that you are an asset that makes them money (which is entirely subjective).


I didn't shift anything. I had to re-state what I said because you're too stupid to understand it the first time around. There's nothing different between saying that an employee's labor is valuable to a company and that the employee's labor is an asset.

The very definition of an asset is that it is something ofvalue and you just suggested that they are two different things.
Just stop.  You really aren't as smart as you think you are.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-06-20 08:36:30 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Wolfmanjames: Forgive me, subby if I fail to trust implicitly a source that declares itself, 'Real Liberal Politics' when it cheers Obamacare.

You read that but didn't see their source? The super liberal WSJ


Nonono, that's unpossible. So long as the article is from one of those commie lib marxist socialist kenyan islamofascist supporter sites, the content is void of any value. And the WSJ? EVEN MORE SO
 
2013-06-20 08:39:20 AM
Our rates went up 25% last year, so...whatever.
 
2013-06-20 08:49:06 AM
Lower for who?
the layabouts I'm guessing.
 
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