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(Politicus USA)   Last year, healthcare costs fell for the first time in forty years. THANKS OBAMA   (politicususa.com) divider line 293
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2013-06-19 08:48:53 PM
DAMMIT ORTON
 
2013-06-19 08:55:30 PM
Sure, lower, because they don't pay out a goddamn red cent.
 
2013-06-19 08:58:06 PM
See? Just like Nixon.
 
2013-06-19 08:58:29 PM
I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.
 
2013-06-19 09:00:15 PM
So is this a scandal yet?
 
2013-06-19 09:00:27 PM

2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.


We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.
 
2013-06-19 09:00:40 PM
Of course health care costs fell, the sick/old are being sent off to Obama death camps.
 
2013-06-19 09:00:41 PM

cman: DAMMIT ORTON


He killed Commander Hutchinson!  I always hated that guy!
 
2013-06-19 09:01:23 PM
The calm before the storm.
 
2013-06-19 09:01:48 PM
they will trot out any darn pony they can to make this look like a good deal
 
2013-06-19 09:02:32 PM
Prices fell in May not last year. One month temporary decrease does not a trend make.
 
2013-06-19 09:02:43 PM

porterm: they will trot out any darn pony they can to make this look like a good deal


Even the "This is a good deal" pony.
 
2013-06-19 09:02:50 PM
Just a bunch of people afraid of getting caught red handed with their fingers in the cookie jar.  They'll relax soon and start stealing at the regular rate again.
 
2013-06-19 09:03:56 PM

Satanic_Hamster: 2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.

We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.


well, there's your mom...
 
2013-06-19 09:04:28 PM
Just wait 'til doctors start treating Republican butthurt.
 
2013-06-19 09:04:37 PM

Fissile: Of course health care costs fell, the sick/old are being sent off to Obama death camps.


You know this isn't true.
The sick and old are being propped up and slain in staged mass murders like Aurora and Sandy Hook.
 
2013-06-19 09:04:44 PM
It's health care profits that we must worry about. After all, isn't that why the Republicans have tried to overturn Obamacare?
 
2013-06-19 09:06:15 PM
Because health cost benefits have decreased for those working. An MRI for my wife three years ago would have been an out of pocket cost of 100 bucks. Now it is 1100, we are too scared to see what her hip surgery will cost. We are choosing to deal with it.
 
2013-06-19 09:07:49 PM
A one month year-over-year decrease in the medical costs inflation RATE does not a reduction make.  Call me when medical prices are falling or when it's -1C in Hell.
 
2013-06-19 09:08:15 PM

great_tigers: Because health cost benefits have decreased for those working. An MRI for my wife three years ago would have been an out of pocket cost of 100 bucks. Now it is 1100, we are too scared to see what her hip surgery will cost. We are choosing to deal with it.


Good for you!
I'm glad you are opting for choice.
I call bullshiat.

Three years ago, your wife was probably employed and now she isn't.  Or some other piece of the puzzle is missing.
 
2013-06-19 09:09:22 PM

hammettman: Just wait 'til doctors start treating Republican butthurt.


That's gonna be a growth industry for years.
 
2013-06-19 09:10:02 PM

DeejayMental: The calm before the storm.


I know, right?  And right after that begins the hyper-inflation I was warned about in late 2007.
 
2013-06-19 09:10:10 PM
Truly, history's greatest monster.
 
2013-06-19 09:10:49 PM

2farknfunny: Satanic_Hamster: 2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.

We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.

well, there's your mom...


Yeah, but after a room full of sailors, pleasing her wasn't much of a challenge.
 
2013-06-19 09:10:49 PM
OMG Obama is crippling the profitability of the medical care industry!
 
2013-06-19 09:11:35 PM
The Hill highlights a new report from PricewaterhouseCoopers showing that "medical inflation will likely fall to 6.5 percent next year - a 50 year low." Link
 
2013-06-19 09:13:39 PM
All of the doctors I see are so against the ACA.  They rant every time I see one.  But, it should be noted that all of the doctors I see are very well-to-do older white males that service a town that is relatively poor.
We quit seeing doctors.
We now see nurse practitioners.  Much less derp.  Really.
 
2013-06-19 09:15:47 PM
Sure does smell like bull shiat in here.
 
2013-06-19 09:15:57 PM
So an article gives credit to something that hasn't gone into effect yet and people are lapping it up like dooshes. Just another repeat of the same old dog and pony show.
 
2013-06-19 09:16:26 PM
Try going to work for a great company with a great insurance plan.  Then you get laid off unexpectedly and cobra costs your family $1900/month.  Healthcare in the US is an absolute joke.
 
2013-06-19 09:16:35 PM

rkiller1: A one month year-over-year decrease in the medical costs inflation RATE does not a reduction make.


Valid point, but I don't know which point is true, the article is inconsistent.

"U.S. consumers' health-care costs fell"
vs
"the slowing of healthcare inflation".

We need a tie-breaker round. Or a follow up. Or a better written article.

/both outcomes are good, one is gooder
 
2013-06-19 09:17:20 PM

Benjimin_Dover: So an article gives credit to something that hasn't gone into effect yet and people are lapping it up like dooshes. Just another repeat of the same old dog and pony show.


You are misinformed.
 
2013-06-19 09:19:38 PM

StopLurkListen: rkiller1: A one month year-over-year decrease in the medical costs inflation RATE does not a reduction make.

Valid point, but I don't know which point is true, the article is inconsistent.



Ah, the original WSJ is a lot clearer
 " The Labor Department's price index for medical care  [...] fell a seasonally adjusted 0.1% in May. The leading driver of last month's drop was a 0.6% contraction in prescription-drug costs "
 
2013-06-19 09:20:18 PM
Forgive me, subby if I fail to trust implicitly a source that declares itself, 'Real Liberal Politics' when it cheers Obamacare.  I am sure those who reflexively scream at FoxNews and Daily Mail links share my cynicism.
 
2013-06-19 09:20:25 PM

Iron Felix: Try going to work for a great company with a great insurance plan.  Then you get laid off unexpectedly and cobra costs your family $1900/month.  Healthcare in the US is an absolute joke.


This I agree with.
The ACA isn't a health care reform, it was an insurance reform.
Baby steps.
The thing sucks, but it is a move in the right direction.
 
2013-06-19 09:20:43 PM
Medicare Part D trickle down.
 
2013-06-19 09:21:26 PM
I mean, if people start getting preventative care and don't get long-lived diseases that are expensive to treat, who is going to hire all the specialists that won't be needed? Healthy people are very inconsiderate to the Health Care Job Creators.
 
2013-06-19 09:21:40 PM

Wolfmanjames: Forgive me, subby if I fail to trust implicitly a source that declares itself, 'Real Liberal Politics' when it cheers Obamacare.


You read that but didn't see their source? The super liberal WSJ
 
2013-06-19 09:24:27 PM
Fell for who?  Mine has gone up every year for the past 4 years at least, and the three major health insurance companies in my state have had an increase in their premiums across the board for their individual (non-group) policies within the past 12 months.
I mean, if it's gone down great, but...
 
2013-06-19 09:24:29 PM
I think it was Karl Marx who said, "Decent health care for the working class is the true path to Communism."
 
2013-06-19 09:25:26 PM
Um no they didn't!!! Mine went up yet again! But to be fair I didn't think it was Obama's fault. It goes up $20 a year. By the time I'm 50 I will be paying $500 to $600 a month at this rate. Plus I can't ever get in to see a specialist for months on months, this IS a new thing.
Thank goodness I'm healthy. Except for falling off hill top hot tubs. If you are not healthy you got a tough go of it.
 
2013-06-19 09:26:33 PM
The second derivative of the rise in healthcare costs went down a little.

This makes my hospital bill lowering rock worth the investment.
 
2013-06-19 09:27:19 PM

2farknfunny: Satanic_Hamster: 2farknfunny: I assume this will be the night's shortest thread.

We could have a thread on all the women you've pleased sexually.

well, there's your mom...


As I said, it would be a short list.
 
2013-06-19 09:27:45 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Wolfmanjames: Forgive me, subby if I fail to trust implicitly a source that declares itself, 'Real Liberal Politics' when it cheers Obamacare.

You read that but didn't see their source? The super liberal WSJ


And the WSJ blog got the numbers from the department of labor and we know those guys never play with the numbers to make things look better. Not ever.
 
2013-06-19 09:28:42 PM
So what specifically did the ACA implement that resulted in these lower costs?

It hasn't even been fully put into effect yet. So what part of what has been implemented led to lower costs?
 
2013-06-19 09:29:35 PM

big pig peaches: And the WSJ blog got the numbers from the department of labor and we know those guys never play with the numbers to make things look better. Not ever.


Well gee golly, without proof of such a claim their dishonesty is limited only by your imagination!
 
2013-06-19 09:31:05 PM

js34603: So what specifically did the ACA implement that resulted in these lower costs?

It hasn't even been fully put into effect yet. So what part of what has been implemented led to lower costs?


"It cited new penalties on hospitals whose patients must be readmitted soon after being discharged, as well as still-developing efforts to improve care coordination and efficiency. Slow growth is also being driven by changes in employer-based healthcare plans, which are increasingly shifting more costs to employees." Link

A PwC study, but similar results.
 
2013-06-19 09:31:48 PM

js34603: So what specifically did the ACA implement that resulted in these lower costs?

It hasn't even been fully put into effect yet. So what part of what has been implemented led to lower costs?


Well you could RTFA.
 
2013-06-19 09:31:52 PM

js34603: So what specifically did the ACA implement that resulted in these lower costs?

It hasn't even been fully put into effect yet. So what part of what has been implemented led to lower costs?


Correlation, that's what.

Speaking of which, do your part and buy more mexican lemons, we can eliminate gun violence and somali pirates in one go.
 
2013-06-19 09:32:24 PM

js34603: So what specifically did the ACA implement that resulted in these lower costs?

It hasn't even been fully put into effect yet. So what part of what has been implemented led to lower costs?


Everything but the exchanges.
 
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