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2013-06-19 07:39:29 PM  
"Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.
 
2013-06-19 07:40:26 PM  

Jedekai: Everyone hates the Kinect. They think it's stupid - me? I don't have a problem with it... (CUE CLARKSON!)...
AND THIS IS WHY:

[www.7outof10.co.uk image 850x478]

Play Forza 4/Horizon with it once. ONCE.

You will never touch the controller again. Wheel and pedal combos? OBSOLETE! The best ($30,000,000 in R&D) racing controller ever!

/I fully expect to see Stig helmets aplenty vs. Guy Fawkes masks.


If you want to sit there with your arms stretched out into thin air for hours on end, go for it. Just don't for one second think the majority of gamers will ever agree with you.  Fitness games where you're exercising in front of the TV are one thing, but holding onto a pretend steering wheel is pants on head retarded.
 
2013-06-19 07:40:37 PM  
Cliffy Bs twitter right now is like the those bums who say the end is nigh because the gays are getting married.
 
2013-06-19 07:41:02 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Snaps: DanZero: Damn. So all those images bashing the console I've been hoarding and posting on nearly every Xbone thread here are useless.

And yes, still no word on the invasive camera.

The new hotness will be bashing MS for not sticking to their guns haha.

You aren't joking. Apparently there were people out there who were actively excited by all the DRM and they are actively complaining that MS "caved".

Microsoft is now in the worst of all possible marketing outcomes. They've already pissed off half their user community, who may or may not come back, and now they've pissed off the  other half that had bought into the claims that these changes were good things.

And all Sony had to do was sit back and watch the implosion.


Not really.

The specialist press went ape over these things. Your average person isn't going to give a shiat until the marketing machine picks up around September.

With this recant behind them, it's going to come down to what's going deliver a unique experience.
The question comes down to is a less powerful system with multiple HIDs be more fun vs a  more powerful platform.

For all the BS, I know that by the end of the lifespan, I'll end up having both.
As much as I piss and moan, it always ends the same way.
 
2013-06-19 07:41:20 PM  

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First it's ironic that Sony is now taking the high ground on anti-DRM.

Secondly, Microsoft will cave to public opinion on this. They're stupid, but not stubbornly so.


11 Jun 2013 05:50 PM

We're all proud of you.

This is what butthurt in text form looks like.


What exactly would I be butthurt about?
 
2013-06-19 07:41:52 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Elegy: snuffy: still there is bills unblinking eye on you.

Yeahhhhh, that ones been debunked.

From the article:
You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences

That's nice. So, tell me again, why I should pay $100 surcharge for hardware that I have no interest in nor intention of using, especially when it is entirely optional to the actual use experience.


Um, you probably shouldn't pay for it if you don't want it?

I was responding to the debunked and false "Kinect is watching you scratch your nuts and eat Cheetos" privacy concerns, not tying to convince anyone to buy one.

Make your own damn decisions about what you're going to buy, don't ask me to do it for you.
 
2013-06-19 07:44:01 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Elegy: snuffy: still there is bills unblinking eye on you.

Yeahhhhh, that ones been debunked.

From the article:
You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences

That's nice. So, tell me again, why I should pay $100 surcharge for hardware that I have no interest in nor intention of using, especially when it is entirely optional to the actual use experience.


A $100 cheaper xbox without kinect would be a pretty temping product. It would definitely get me to consider not buying a PS4.
 
2013-06-19 07:45:46 PM  
Ha ha, victory to the consumers.

So much for the "it's just a vocal minority" or "just angry internet nerds."

But in the end, the damage is done. The backlash has been immense and almost universal. It hasn't even been a month since the console was revealed and they've completely backpedaled from their biggest feature. At least before, they were selling it as an always connected device, and could try to pretend there were benefits to consumers from that. Now, all they have left is a underpowered and more expensive machine, that's still tied to the kinect system and all the privacy concerns surrounding it.
 
2013-06-19 07:45:56 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: codergirl42: Rev.K: Quality headline.

Stolen from Reddit.

And/or Joystiq.


And/or an ArsTechnica graphic.
 
2013-06-19 07:46:09 PM  

Elegy: Being able to lend out 10 digital copies of games isn't a shiatty DRM - it would have been the most permissive DRM for digital content in the industry. The 24/1 hr checkins were needed to counterbalance people cheating the loan system.

But everyone screamed about 24hr checkins, and MS didn't get on top of the message that the checkins were counterbalanced by a very generous loan policy, and now we're back to the same shiatty model Steam and the 360 have, where I buy a digital game and its stuck on my device [sigh]


Not everyone is interested in loaning games, in the first place, and there are plenty of users out there who do not always have guaranteed connections to the Internet. I know that my military friends were, in particular, considering this a deal breaker because it meant that they couldn't use the consoles on many of their deployments.

Worse, MS just brushed those concerns aside by claiming that we were now in a networked world and that we should just deal with it. They weren't expecting people to deal with it by switching to Sony, I guess.
 
2013-06-19 07:46:55 PM  
I submitted this with a way, way more lame headline.

Nice one, Subs.
 
2013-06-19 07:47:10 PM  

Elegy: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Elegy: snuffy: still there is bills unblinking eye on you.

Yeahhhhh, that ones been debunked.

From the article:
You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences

That's nice. So, tell me again, why I should pay $100 surcharge for hardware that I have no interest in nor intention of using, especially when it is entirely optional to the actual use experience.

Um, you probably shouldn't pay for it if you don't want it?

I was responding to the debunked and false "Kinect is watching you scratch your nuts and eat Cheetos" privacy concerns, not tying to convince anyone to buy one.

Make your own damn decisions about what you're going to buy, don't ask me to do it for you.


I wasn't. Calm down.
 
2013-06-19 07:50:30 PM  

Someothermonkey: But in the end, the damage is done. The backlash has been immense and almost universal. It hasn't even been a month since the console was revealed and they've completely backpedaled from their biggest feature. At least before, they were selling it as an always connected device, and could try to pretend there were benefits to consumers from that. Now, all they have left is a underpowered and more expensive machine, that's still tied to the kinect system and all the privacy concerns surrounding it.


I work at Microsoft and I can tell you that everything you have said here is false.  Number one, the Xbox is 300 to 500 times more powerful than the PlayStation 4, depending on how fast the clouds across the Oklahoma Plain are moving.  (During the Moore tornado, one of our playtesters was literally sucked into the game, never to be found again.)  Number two, the Kinect is not spying on you.  The person on the other end of the connection is the one spying on you.  And number three, the PlayStation 4 will not have Ryse.  In the past, video games sound and graphics with interactive components to create video games.  Ryse will remove the interactivity and usher in an incredible era of noninteractive interactive entertainment.  Wow.  I can't wait to watch Ryse.
 
2013-06-19 07:51:38 PM  

Elegy: Sony bricks users consoles with upgraded HDDs, MS reverses on DRM.

[img.fark.net image 294x515]

I need more popcorn.


hahaha. Nice try. What happened to digital only was the future and consumers were going to buy the DRM-laden console anyway because they have no impulse control?
 
2013-06-19 07:52:45 PM  

Carth: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Elegy: snuffy: still there is bills unblinking eye on you.

Yeahhhhh, that ones been debunked.

From the article:
You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences

That's nice. So, tell me again, why I should pay $100 surcharge for hardware that I have no interest in nor intention of using, especially when it is entirely optional to the actual use experience.

A $100 cheaper xbox without kinect would be a pretty temping product. It would definitely get me to consider not buying a PS4.


It would go a long way towards putting them back into play. I'm not a Sony fanboi. In fact, before all this started, I was heavily leaning towards the Xbox. I'm actually a bit surprised that I'm strongly leaning towards the PS4, now, but not only haven't we gotten any of this shiat from them, they're also the only ones promising backwards game compatibility and have just generally been paying attention to everything that people have been telling them they want.

Sony has been responsive to gamers and Microsoft has, at best, been reactive (when they haven't been actively dismissive). I'm really not sure I understand how MS could let themselves go from crowd favorite to a pariah in such a short span.
 
2013-06-19 07:53:20 PM  

RexTalionis: Someone should build an XBox indie game where it's just a chess playing engine where you call out your chess moves by voice via the Kinect. Also, the chess game asks you about your day and stuff.

img.fark.net

Let's make this happen!


But then the XBone calls out one move while making another then murders all your friends while they sleep.
 
2013-06-19 07:53:58 PM  

eddievercetti: Cliffy Bs twitter right now is like the those bums who say the end is nigh because the gays are getting married.


That guy is a douchebag.  I actively avoid projects he's apart of since I don't want the frat-ness to touch entertainment center.
 
2013-06-19 07:54:54 PM  
AkaDad: img.fark.net


To be fair, it would be almost impossible to remove the DRM if they had stuck to their 10 person family share business model.  What they did instead was remove the 10 person sharing of games in order to revert back to the old style of game sharing.

The 10 person model, while ambitious was shooting themselves in the foot.  Sure it SOUNDS nice to have 1 person buy a game and 10 different people play it, but when that option requires that you no longer OWN the game, it's a problem.
 
2013-06-19 07:55:40 PM  
Still leaning towards the PS4. I don't like the kinect and I'll save a hundred bucks.
 
2013-06-19 07:55:54 PM  

Testiclaw: I submitted this with a way, way more lame headline.


I submitted this with the exact same headline an hour later, then noticed this one was green. Stop stealing my ideas and time-travelling, subby.
 
2013-06-19 07:56:21 PM  

Elegy: TheOmni: Elegy: I'm actually a little bummed that MS backed down. I understand why they did it - Internet hate machine was steamrolling them and all - but with the DRM checking came the ability loan out digital copies of my game library, meaning I could have swapped games with my XBL friends. Now, no DRM, back to shiatty single-use licensing for digital content.

It's not no DRM. It's just back to the shiatty DRM we have had before instead of a new and differently shiatty DRM.

Being able to lend out 10 digital copies of games isn't a shiatty DRM - it would have been the most permissive DRM for digital content in the industry. The 24/1 hr checkins were needed to counterbalance people cheating the loan system.

But everyone screamed about 24hr checkins, and MS didn't get on top of the message that the checkins were counterbalanced by a very generous loan policy, and now we're back to the same shiatty model Steam and the 360 have, where I buy a digital game and its stuck on my device [sigh]


Wait, couldn't I loan out my disk of Halo 3 to infinity friends right now.  How is accepting a DRM scheme limiting me to sharing 10 times more permissive?
 
2013-06-19 07:56:44 PM  

Mike_LowELL: I work at Microsoft and I can tell you that everything you have said here is false.  Number one, the Xbox is 300 to 500 times more powerful than the PlayStation 4, depending on how fast the clouds across the Oklahoma Plain are moving.  (During the Moore tornado, one of our playtesters was literally sucked into the game, never to be found again.)  Number two, the Kinect is not spying on you.  The person on the other end of the connection is the one spying on you.  And number three, the PlayStation 4 will not have Ryse.  In the past, video games sound and graphics with interactive components to create video games.  Ryse will remove the interactivity and usher in an incredible era of noninteractive interactive entertainment.  Wow.  I can't wait to watch Ryse.


When I initially watched the Ryse demo, I was kind of excited. I'm a big fan of the Roman era and it was cool to see it being brought to life. Ten minutes into the demo my primary thought was, "What's up with all the farking QTEs? Is this the year 2000, still?"
 
2013-06-19 07:56:54 PM  

Someothermonkey: Elegy: Sony bricks users consoles with upgraded HDDs, MS reverses on DRM.

[img.fark.net image 294x515]

I need more popcorn.

hahaha. Nice try. What happened to digital only was the future and consumers were going to buy the DRM-laden console anyway because they have no impulse control?


I don't know, what happened to it?
 
2013-06-19 07:56:57 PM  

Jedekai: Everyone hates the Kinect. They think it's stupid - me? I don't have a problem with it... (CUE CLARKSON!)... 
AND THIS IS WHY:

[www.7outof10.co.uk image 850x478]

Play Forza 4/Horizon with it once. ONCE.

You will never touch the controller again. Wheel and pedal combos? OBSOLETE! The best ($30,000,000 in R&D) racing controller ever!

/I fully expect to see Stig helmets aplenty vs. Guy Fawkes masks.


You have to be trolling.  No real Forza player uses that option at all.  You can't drive properly like that, you can't drift at all.

0% of the Forza players on my friend's list have that achievement.  Even the ones with Kinect refuse to earn that cheevo, because it is so farking stupid.

Most people actually have the Fanatec wheels and use those.  Of course, those same Fanatec wheels are going to be obsolete when the XBox One arrives, and after spending as much as $500 on those wheels, they aren't looking to upgrade to the XBox One and having to buy a completely new wheel.

One day soon, maybe Polyphony Digital will get their act together and actually make a proper game, but until then, Forza is the best racing sim out there, excluding iRacing.
 
2013-06-19 07:57:06 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Carth: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Elegy: snuffy: still there is bills unblinking eye on you.

Yeahhhhh, that ones been debunked.

From the article:
You can use other inputs to control your games, TV and entertainment experiences

That's nice. So, tell me again, why I should pay $100 surcharge for hardware that I have no interest in nor intention of using, especially when it is entirely optional to the actual use experience.

A $100 cheaper xbox without kinect would be a pretty temping product. It would definitely get me to consider not buying a PS4.

It would go a long way towards putting them back into play. I'm not a Sony fanboi. In fact, before all this started, I was heavily leaning towards the Xbox. I'm actually a bit surprised that I'm strongly leaning towards the PS4, now, but not only haven't we gotten any of this shiat from them, they're also the only ones promising backwards game compatibility and have just generally been paying attention to everything that people have been telling them they want.

Sony has been responsive to gamers and Microsoft has, at best, been reactive (when they haven't been actively dismissive). I'm really not sure I understand how MS could let themselves go from crowd favorite to a pariah in such a short span.


Not to be terribly sarcastic, but, the 2nd Gen Arrogance is the norm.

I'd be more surprised if MS hadn't been tone deaf and dismissive going into this race.
 
2013-06-19 07:57:53 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: PainInTheASP: Don't fark with my Visual Studio

They already did.

/you HAVE seen the new color scheme, yes?


You should DEFINITELY check out the color scheme add-on. In addition to the "no caps-lock" menu options add-on. Much much better.
 
2013-06-19 07:58:10 PM  
Question: What about before they said you installed the game then could throw the disk away? Will you now have to keep the disk to play it?
I have no intention of getting one (for a while, at least) so that sorta intrigued me. I also don't like to buy used games (I've bought 3, but only because there were no new copies) so the old DRM didn't bother me.
 
2013-06-19 07:58:25 PM  

Mangoose: "Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.


The PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, you should try to not talk about things you don't know anything about.
 
2013-06-19 07:59:19 PM  

Elegy: Someothermonkey: Elegy: Sony bricks users consoles with upgraded HDDs, MS reverses on DRM.

[img.fark.net image 294x515]

I need more popcorn.

hahaha. Nice try. What happened to digital only was the future and consumers were going to buy the DRM-laden console anyway because they have no impulse control?

I don't know, what happened to it?


Not sure where the steambox is in terms of development, but its still the most promising candidate of these single-purpose toys that nestle beneath a TV in hopes that PC doesn't crush them.

/Valve figured out how to do DRM right
 
2013-06-19 08:00:02 PM  

Witty_Retort: Question: What about before they said you installed the game then could throw the disk away? Will you now have to keep the disk to play it?



Seems like the disc is going to go back to being the key.
 
2013-06-19 08:00:08 PM  

Elegy: Someothermonkey: Elegy: Sony bricks users consoles with upgraded HDDs, MS reverses on DRM.

[img.fark.net image 294x515]

I need more popcorn.

hahaha. Nice try. What happened to digital only was the future and consumers were going to buy the DRM-laden console anyway because they have no impulse control?

I don't know, what happened to it?


They did a 180.
 
2013-06-19 08:00:33 PM  

change1211: Mangoose: "Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.

The PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, you should try to not talk about things you don't know anything about.


What if, what if there were other x86 platforms that proved that such a claim was utter bullshiat....what if...
 
2013-06-19 08:01:07 PM  

Witty_Retort: Question: What about before they said you installed the game then could throw the disk away? Will you now have to keep the disk to play it?
I have no intention of getting one (for a while, at least) so that sorta intrigued me. I also don't like to buy used games (I've bought 3, but only because there were no new copies) so the old DRM didn't bother me.


You can do that now on either PS3 or Xbox 360 if you just buy digital copies. Which isn't as good as it sounds because for some insane reason it was often cheaper to buy a copy in-store than buy one digitally.
 
2013-06-19 08:01:40 PM  
Oh and to the PS3 bricking update, 360 did that as well...one year after launch!
 
2013-06-19 08:02:01 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: When I initially watched the Ryse demo, I was kind of excited. I'm a big fan of the Roman era and it was cool to see it being brought to life. Ten minutes into the demo my primary thought was, "What's up with all the farking QTEs? Is this the year 2000, still?"


The best part is that one of the Kotaku writers asked how come he couldn't fail the QTEs and the attendant said they didn't want players to become "frustrated".  (In fairness, the fact you could actually fail one of those things is farking remarkable and only something a Kotaku writer could do.)
 
2013-06-19 08:02:36 PM  

change1211: Mangoose: "Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.

The PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, you should try to not talk about things you don't know anything about.


Do you have a source for this? I've heard both that it was going to be, period, and also that it would be, but only for streaming titles. This is the first I've heard that it flat out won't be.
 
2013-06-19 08:04:45 PM  
Can Microsoft embarrass itself any more?

First they attempted to get behind quite possibly the least consumer-friendly DRM plan to date, then they fail to stand up for their own methods and prove that they haven't got the spine to support the controversial measure of their own making.
 
2013-06-19 08:05:05 PM  

Mike_LowELL: The best part is that one of the Kotaku writers asked how come he couldn't fail the QTEs and the attendant said they didn't want players to become "frustrated".


Seriously!? Wow, I didn't realize how unironic your sarcasm was.
 
2013-06-19 08:05:16 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Witty_Retort: Question: What about before they said you installed the game then could throw the disk away? Will you now have to keep the disk to play it?


Seems like the disc is going to go back to being the key.


Awesome.  : /

btw, GoG has about 500 games on sale. No DRM, no disk.

/PC Master Race
 
2013-06-19 08:07:10 PM  

eddievercetti: Oh and to the PS3 bricking update, 360 did that as well...one year after launch!


pedant: Technically the update didn't brick the PS3s since they can  be fixed with a USB drive and a software update.
 
2013-06-19 08:09:44 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: change1211: Mangoose: "Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.

The PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, you should try to not talk about things you don't know anything about.

Do you have a source for this? I've heard both that it was going to be, period, and also that it would be, but only for streaming titles. This is the first I've heard that it flat out won't be.


Last I heard, PS4 is not stick-an-old-disk-in-and-play backwards compatible. You buy almost any old game (even PS1, 2 and 3 games you have already bought digitally on your gamer tag) and then the video is streamed to your console and you control it.
 
2013-06-19 08:11:18 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Do you have a source for this? I've heard both that it was going to be, period, and also that it would be, but only for streaming titles. This is the first I've heard that it flat out won't be.


Out of the box the PS4 isn't backwards compatible.  They are promising it at some point through their streaming service.  However, since it won't happen until some point after launch who knows when if will turn up or if it will be practical or just a gimmick.  Home I'm looking at you.
 
2013-06-19 08:12:21 PM  
Cliffy B: No DRM = The end of gaming as you know it!, MORE TRANSACTIONS, MORE MULTIPLAYER, MORE DLC! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

Again, has he made anything of relevance lately?
 
2013-06-19 08:15:12 PM  

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First it's ironic that Sony is now taking the high ground on anti-DRM.

Secondly, Microsoft will cave to public opinion on this. They're stupid, but not stubbornly so.


11 Jun 2013 05:50 PM

We're all proud of you.

This is what butthurt in text form looks like.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 08:16:03 PM  

RexTalionis: codergirl42: Yeah it's not like you ever had to outstretch your arms for extended periods of times in real life.

Typically, I don't. They usually just hang at my side. I am not a Chinese vampire.


You Sound Fat
 
2013-06-19 08:16:22 PM  

Witty_Retort: Virtual Pariah: Witty_Retort: Question: What about before they said you installed the game then could throw the disk away? Will you now have to keep the disk to play it?


Seems like the disc is going to go back to being the key.

Awesome.  : /

btw, GoG has about 500 games on sale. No DRM, no disk.

/PC Master Race


General GoG question.

Say I pick up a classic like Ultima 7 at the wonderful price of $2.99.

Will it just work?

I have to admit that U7 was the game that capped the end of my PC gaming.
The Memory Manager was a complete mess, and I kept losing my backpack items.

To the point that I had to send my disk in to have it edited.
 
2013-06-19 08:16:52 PM  

Nefarious: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Do you have a source for this? I've heard both that it was going to be, period, and also that it would be, but only for streaming titles. This is the first I've heard that it flat out won't be.

Out of the box the PS4 isn't backwards compatible.  They are promising it at some point through their streaming service.  However, since it won't happen until some point after launch who knows when if will turn up or if it will be practical or just a gimmick.  Home I'm looking at you.


They're saying Gaikai will be ready by 2014. They didn't specify if it was early or late 2014 though. And they're still debating whether or not to put it behind the plus paywall.
 
2013-06-19 08:17:29 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: change1211: Mangoose: "Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games-games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. "

That's some mighty fine bullshiat you got there.

The PS4 isn't backwards compatible either, you should try to not talk about things you don't know anything about.

Do you have a source for this? I've heard both that it was going to be, period, and also that it would be, but only for streaming titles. This is the first I've heard that it flat out won't be.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4#Backward_compatibility

Both consoles are switching to a new architecture, therefore neither console can play old disks.
 
2013-06-19 08:19:12 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Absolutely disgusting.  If I go into your house and break something, I would go to jail, if I was poor.  You walked into Microsoft's consumer market and broke their business model.  You imbeciles caused billions of dollars of damage to a corporation.  How is that not a criminal offense?


Why so mad? This might actually increase sales for a system people ran away from.
 
2013-06-19 08:19:49 PM  

ajgeek: That was slower than I anticipated. I thought they'd reverse a couple weeks ago.

Q:    Will Xbox One allow players to trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games?
A:     We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We'll have more details to share later.

This particular FAQ is hilarious. "Designing" indeed.


They're going to have their own pawn shop, let you sell your used games to them waaaay under value, then they'll resell them to other people at a big mark-up, so they'll be able to profit 4-5 times over from one game.
 
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