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(International Business Times)   Liquid nitrogen pool party stunt caught on video almost kills 200 guests, leaves man in coma   (ibtimes.com) divider line 80
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2013-06-19 04:58:09 PM
They told the police officer to stay away, but he insisted on being a hero

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2013-06-19 05:42:29 PM
Science! It just works.
 
2013-06-19 05:46:59 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Science! It just works.


Science! It works even in Mexico!
Science! It works even when you don't want it to!
 
2013-06-19 05:56:13 PM
Jägermeister, that stuff will kill ya without resorting to shenanigans.
 
2013-06-19 05:57:46 PM
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/that'd best not be obscure!
 
2013-06-19 06:01:34 PM
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2013-06-19 06:01:45 PM
An unidentified spokesman for Jagermeister ..."Fortunately, all of those who required medical attention are out of danger and recovering."

Uh...

Jose Ignacio Lopez del Toro, is reportedly still suffering from a coma.
 
2013-06-19 06:02:12 PM

bluorangefyre: [moviesmedia.ign.com image 450x192]

/that'd best not be obscure!


That reference is invincible!
 
2013-06-19 06:02:22 PM
Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
 
2013-06-19 06:03:53 PM
How retarded to you have to be to figure filling a swimming pool with liquid N and letting people party around it as a good idea?

Besides which filling a swimming pool with liquid N is cheaper than hiring in some industrial smoke machines... REALLY?
 
2013-06-19 06:03:55 PM
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/hot
 
2013-06-19 06:05:09 PM

bluorangefyre: [moviesmedia.ign.com image 450x192]

/that'd best not be obscure!


Dude, the day that becomes obscure is the day all of FARK is lost.

/favorite Bond movie
//well, maybe after Thunderball
 
2013-06-19 06:08:36 PM
Jeez, just keep it simple.

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-19 06:11:08 PM
oxygen displacement is a biatch
 
2013-06-19 06:12:09 PM
A fog machine was too expensive?
 
2013-06-19 06:12:20 PM

Vaneshi: How retarded to you have to be to figure filling a swimming pool with liquid N and letting people party around it as a good idea?

Besides which filling a swimming pool with liquid N is cheaper than hiring in some industrial smoke machines... REALLY?


Meh, they poured a few bottles of it in the pool, a pool people were swimming in. The problem was it reacted with the chlorine and and produced hazardous vapors.

/also read TFA next time.
 
2013-06-19 06:16:11 PM
Party Responsibly.
 
2013-06-19 06:16:56 PM

divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch


But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).
 
2013-06-19 06:18:20 PM
FTA:  The incident was reportedly caused after the chemical became harmful due to its toxic properties when mixed with the chlorine in the swimming pool.

Um, I'm not a chemist, but I do have some experience with industrial chemicals. I'm not sure there would have been a reaction.

Maybe simple asphyxia from oxygen displacement? I mean the pool water is basically a weak bleach (sodium hypochlorite), right? Even if they are using gas chlorine to chlorinate the water (not likely, but I've seen it done at some municipal pools). Is there some mechanism I'm missing here?
 
2013-06-19 06:19:14 PM

COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).


I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.
 
2013-06-19 06:20:10 PM
We used liquid nitrogen when I was a machinist in the Air Force and had to take a day long safety course annually to do so. That shiat's hazardous on many levels and anyone who uses it as a party trick is a farking moron.
 
2013-06-19 06:21:02 PM

divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch


This was my first thought but TFA say the LN2 reacted with the Chlorine? Any chemistry whiz want to comment on this because I don't see it.
 
2013-06-19 06:21:44 PM
Um, the "smoke" is water vapor and tiny ice crystals. Not toxic.

The problem is that nitrogen will displace the oxygen and people will suffocate.
 
2013-06-19 06:21:53 PM
So what are the hazardous vapors produced? Or is it simply a displacement of Oxygen causing people to pass out?
 
2013-06-19 06:22:19 PM

subfactorial: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

This was my first thought but TFA say the LN2 reacted with the Chlorine? Any chemistry whiz want to comment on this because I don't see it.


TFA is stupid and they don't know what they're talking about.
 
2013-06-19 06:22:20 PM

Torqueknot: Vaneshi: How retarded to you have to be to figure filling a swimming pool with liquid N and letting people party around it as a good idea?

Besides which filling a swimming pool with liquid N is cheaper than hiring in some industrial smoke machines... REALLY?

Meh, they poured a few bottles of it in the pool, a pool people were swimming in. The problem was it reacted with the chlorine and and produced hazardous vapors.

/also read TFA next time.


Describe unto me how nitrogen would chemically react with anything in the pool.

Hint: it doesn't.

Likely the nitrogen evaporated when it warmed up, and displaced all the oxygen near the pool.
 
2013-06-19 06:22:37 PM
I bet guests did Nazi that coming
 
2013-06-19 06:27:08 PM
Not a chemist, but... I can't figure out what reaction it could possibly be.

I mean, I know Nitric Acid + Hydrochloric acid=Aqua Regia, butttt that's not what was going on here.
 
2013-06-19 06:28:38 PM
Just wanted to echo everyone else in the thread.

Nitrogen is valued because it's so chemically inert.  The danger here wasn't the temperature nor chemical reactions.  The problem is that you're diluting the oxygen content of the air.
 
2013-06-19 06:31:23 PM

GrendelMk1: Describe unto me how nitrogen would chemically react with anything in the pool.


Thank god. I thought that I had suffered a seizure and forgotten all of my high school chemistry.  I'm glad I'm not the only person having a WTF moment.
 
2013-06-19 06:31:26 PM

Felgraf: Not a chemist, but... I can't figure out what reaction it could possibly be.

I mean, I know Nitric Acid + Hydrochloric acid=Aqua Regia, butttt that's not what was going on here.


Yeah, what chemical reaction would happen with cold-as-fark liquid nitrogen that wouldn't have already gone on with warm N2 in the air?

A big, warm pool is going to make your liquid nitrogen evaporate almost immediately, displacing a farkton of oxygen.  A nice splash of panic and "smoke" (water vapor) isn't going to help much either.
 
2013-06-19 06:32:08 PM

Felgraf: Not a chemist, but... I can't figure out what reaction it could possibly be.

I mean, I know Nitric Acid + Hydrochloric acid=Aqua Regia, butttt that's not what was going on here.


N2 is very chemically inert. At ambient temperature it reacts with lithium metal and some very sensitive organometallic complexes and not much else. It certainly doesn't react with pool water or the chlorine in it. Remember that air is 78% N2.
 
2013-06-19 06:33:01 PM
Dry ice woulda done the same thing and been 100x cheaper. Still probably wouldve asphyxiated partygoers though.

What you want is a bigass fog machine then you run that through a box filled with dry ice, then you have nice safe propylene glycol smoke thats cold so it stays near the ground.
 
2013-06-19 06:33:45 PM

ReapTheChaos: We used liquid nitrogen when I was a machinist in the Air Force and had to take a day long safety course annually to do so.


I guess there's more to it, but I'm imagining the course as something like this:

[Slide 1]
This stuff's cold. Really cold.

[Slide 2]
You can't breathe it.

[lunch break]

[Slide 3]
Review of slides 1 and 2

[Slide 4]
Advanced Topics
 - Ensure rooms are well-ventilated to avoid asphyxiation
 - Watch out for liquid oxygen condensing on really cold surfaces
 - Don't carry it in glass dewars which may shatter
 - Don't put it in your mouth
 
2013-06-19 06:34:35 PM
so this is what they mean by "the stupid, it burns"
 
2013-06-19 06:38:12 PM
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RIP Jagr
 
2013-06-19 06:39:08 PM

Testiclaw: COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).

I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.


I don't understand why they don't just use nitrous oxide actually.
 
2013-06-19 06:43:22 PM

jigger: Felgraf: Not a chemist, but... I can't figure out what reaction it could possibly be.

I mean, I know Nitric Acid + Hydrochloric acid=Aqua Regia, butttt that's not what was going on here.

N2 is very chemically inert. At ambient temperature it reacts with lithium metal and some very sensitive organometallic complexes and not much else. It certainly doesn't react with pool water or the chlorine in it. Remember that air is 78% N2.


Thank you. I felt like i was taking crazy pills.
 
2013-06-19 06:44:56 PM
Cat's Cradle Lite?

/i'll just leave....
 
2013-06-19 06:50:21 PM

Cyclonic Cooking Action: Testiclaw: COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).

I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.

I don't understand why they don't just use nitrous oxide actually.


Me neither, I think it's a perfect solution.
 
2013-06-19 06:50:31 PM

Testiclaw: An unidentified spokesman for Jagermeister ..."Fortunately, all of those who required medical attention are out of danger and recovering."

Uh...

Jose Ignacio Lopez del Toro, is reportedly still suffering from a coma.


HE'S RECOVERING!  POLAND WAS THERE!  PUNCH WAS SERVED!
 
2013-06-19 06:54:42 PM

Testiclaw: Cyclonic Cooking Action: Testiclaw: COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).

I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.

I don't understand why they don't just use nitrous oxide actually.

Me neither, I think it's a perfect solution.


My guess is that people think it's too easy of a way out, but it seems to be humane and assured.
 
2013-06-19 07:08:31 PM

19 Kilo: Testiclaw: An unidentified spokesman for Jagermeister ..."Fortunately, all of those who required medical attention are out of danger and recovering."

Uh...

Jose Ignacio Lopez del Toro, is reportedly still suffering from a coma.

HE'S RECOVERING!  POLAND WAS THERE!  PUNCH WAS SERVED!


RECOMA'ING!

Cyclonic Cooking Action: Testiclaw: Cyclonic Cooking Action: Testiclaw: COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).

I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.

I don't understand why they don't just use nitrous oxide actually.

Me neither, I think it's a perfect solution.

My guess is that people think it's too easy of a way out, but it seems to be humane and assured.


Sadly, I suspect your guess is correct.
 
2013-06-19 07:14:21 PM

Testiclaw: COMALite J: divx88: oxygen displacement is a biatch

But it may be the single least painful way to die that doesn't involve leaving a really messy corpse (or being totally vaporized in an instant or some such).

I am all in favor of having death penalties being carried out by noble gas inhalation.  I think it's a profoundly humane solution, and elegant in its simplicity, in a morbid way.

Wasn't the original proposal to pump a gas into the prisoners cell on a random date, effectively they'd go to bed and never wake up and not even realize what was happening?


Cyno01: Dry ice woulda done the same thing and been 100x cheaper. Still probably wouldve asphyxiated partygoers though.

What you want is a bigass fog machine then you run that through a box filled with dry ice, then you have nice safe propylene glycol smoke thats cold so it stays near the ground.


CO2 would have been better, people may have realized something was wrong. The need to breath is dictated by CO2 levels not the lack of oxygen, so the high CO2 level  may have triggered some reaction.
 
2013-06-19 07:24:00 PM

Vaneshi: How retarded to you have to be to figure filling a swimming pool with liquid N and letting people party around it as a good idea?

Besides which filling a swimming pool with liquid N is cheaper than hiring in some industrial smoke machines... REALLY?



Someone needs to be locked up for a long time and lose a bunch of money.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 07:25:08 PM
H + N + Cl → HCN + l
Simple high school chemistry.
 
2013-06-19 07:43:15 PM

ZAZ: H + N + Cl → HCN + l
Simple high school chemistry.


Who knew that hydrogen gas, nitrogen gas, and aqueous chlorine come together to form hydrogen cyanide and iodine solid? I sure didn't.
 
2013-06-19 08:01:14 PM

Ivo Shandor: ReapTheChaos: We used liquid nitrogen when I was a machinist in the Air Force and had to take a day long safety course annually to do so.

I guess there's more to it, but I'm imagining the course as something like this:

[Slide 1]
This stuff's cold. Really cold.

[Slide 2]
You can't breathe it.

[lunch break]

[Slide 3]
Review of slides 1 and 2

[Slide 4]
Advanced Topics
 - Ensure rooms are well-ventilated to avoid asphyxiation
 - Watch out for liquid oxygen condensing on really cold surfaces
 - Don't carry it in glass dewars which may shatter
 - Don't put it in your mouth


It was actually a class on all types of gasses, from liquid oxygen/nitrogen to compressed gasses and it covered proper handling, transportation, storage, etc. The Air Force is big on safety, we even had to take a class on fire extinguishers yearly too.
 
jvl
2013-06-19 08:03:07 PM

Mike Chewbacca: ZAZ: H + N + Cl → HCN + l
Simple high school chemistry.

Who knew that hydrogen gas, nitrogen gas, and aqueous chlorine come together to form hydrogen cyanide and iodine solid? I sure didn't.


Zaz is the kind of Alchemy!
 
jvl
2013-06-19 08:03:12 PM

Mike Chewbacca: ZAZ: H + N + Cl → HCN + l
Simple high school chemistry.

Who knew that hydrogen gas, nitrogen gas, and aqueous chlorine come together to form hydrogen cyanide and iodine solid? I sure didn't.


Zaz is the king of Alchemy!
 
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