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(WTOP)   Ugly-assed baby liliger born in Russian zoo, for its skills in magic   (wtop.com) divider line 40
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2013-06-19 05:25:55 PM
There's cute.

Then there's CUUUTE!

These are al the way up there at KYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
 
2013-06-19 05:26:48 PM
So if a liger x lion cross is called a "liliger", what do you call a liger x tiger cross?  A "ligeger"?
 
2013-06-19 05:28:36 PM
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2013-06-19 05:28:54 PM

Mouser: So if a liger x lion cross is called a "liliger", what do you call a liger x tiger cross?  A "ligeger"?


Probably a Tiliger
 
2013-06-19 05:29:23 PM
So a cross of two of these is a lilililiger
 
2013-06-19 05:30:40 PM
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soon
 
2013-06-19 05:32:50 PM

Mouser: So if a liger x lion cross is called a "liliger", what do you call a liger x tiger cross?  A "ligeger"?


An exotic pussy.
 
2013-06-19 05:33:04 PM
won't be long before we end up with lililililililililililililililililililigers.
 
2013-06-19 05:39:05 PM
Are they playing in a wood pile?
 
2013-06-19 05:46:53 PM
So long as they don't get ahold of the Sword of Omens, I think we'll be good.
 
2013-06-19 05:49:05 PM
OK...answers the question...ligers are not mules (i.e., they can reproduce).

I wonder what characteristics an F2 liger would possess (both parents ligers)?

Same wonder about tigons...

Genetics...farkin' fascinating how they operate (sometimes they don't azackly 'work').

/ Those cublets are terminally cute.
// SQUEEEEEE
/// slashies
 
2013-06-19 05:51:32 PM
Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?
 
2013-06-19 05:55:42 PM
Huh. I thought ligers were sterile.  Must be the other cross whose name I can't think of just now.
 
2013-06-19 05:56:37 PM
Holy crap. Now I have diabetuus.
 
2013-06-19 06:08:15 PM

syzygy whizz: OK...answers the question...ligers are not mules (i.e., they can reproduce).

I wonder what characteristics an F2 liger would possess (both parents ligers)?

Same wonder about tigons...

Genetics...farkin' fascinating how they operate (sometimes they don't azackly 'work').

/ Those cublets are terminally cute.
// SQUEEEEEE
/// slashies


It is pretty rare for them to reproduce. They're normally born sterile.
 
2013-06-19 06:16:37 PM

balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?


"Yes" to question #1
"I guess we'll find out" to question #2
 
2013-06-19 06:16:38 PM
It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
 
2013-06-19 06:19:01 PM

leevis: syzygy whizz: OK...answers the question...ligers are not mules (i.e., they can reproduce).

I wonder what characteristics an F2 liger would possess (both parents ligers)?

Same wonder about tigons...

Genetics...farkin' fascinating how they operate (sometimes they don't azackly 'work').

/ Those cublets are terminally cute.
// SQUEEEEEE
/// slashies

It is pretty rare for them to reproduce. They're normally born sterile.


Yeah, I thought if they could reproduce they were still technically the same species, like dogs and wolves.  Obviously they have a common ancestor and I guess they haven't speciated hard enough yet?
 
2013-06-19 06:19:05 PM

balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?


Yes, they are.  And if a pair had an F2 baby it would also lack the stop growing now gene.  Does that mean tigons get stop growing now genes from both parents?
 
2013-06-19 06:19:28 PM

balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?


Yes, ligers are larger than both their lion/tiger parents.  I would think a liliger would be similarly large.

Female ligers aren't sterile.  Male ligers are.  They don't occur very often in nature, because lions and tigers rarely share the same habitat.  Female ligers can reproduce with male lions and tigers.

/learned way too much about ligers today
 
2013-06-19 06:21:37 PM
liliger?

/i hardly even knew her!
 
2013-06-19 06:26:10 PM
Awww, those little kitty sized things are going to grow up to be 500+ pound killing machines?

Seriously, how does a 500 pound beast have a 2-3 pound baby? Because lots of 100-200 pound women would like to know.
Especially my 5 '1 sister in law who barely cracks 100 pounds non pregnant. Her 7 pounder required an emergency c-section.
 
2013-06-19 06:36:55 PM
I think they're super cute, not ugly!
 
2013-06-19 06:37:15 PM

octopied: Awww, those little kitty sized things are going to grow up to be 500+ pound killing machines?

Seriously, how does a 500 pound beast have a 2-3 pound baby? Because lots of 100-200 pound women would like to know.
Especially my 5 '1 sister in law who barely cracks 100 pounds non pregnant. Her 7 pounder required an emergency c-section.


Having litters (instead of normally single births) helps a lot.
 
2013-06-19 06:43:32 PM

dehehn: leevis: syzygy whizz: OK...answers the question...ligers are not mules (i.e., they can reproduce).

I wonder what characteristics an F2 liger would possess (both parents ligers)?

Same wonder about tigons...

Genetics...farkin' fascinating how they operate (sometimes they don't azackly 'work').

/ Those cublets are terminally cute.
// SQUEEEEEE
/// slashies

It is pretty rare for them to reproduce. They're normally born sterile.

Yeah, I thought if they could reproduce they were still technically the same species, like dogs and wolves.  Obviously they have a common ancestor and I guess they haven't speciated hard enough yet?


"same species" would mean they can produce viable offspring. Horses and donkeys make mules, but mules cannot make more mules; and (typically) ligers cannot make more ligers (or liligers, apparently).

Of course, Lions and tigers (oh my) are also considered "different" species because their natural habitats do not overlap.

This must be some kind of anomaly. An adorable anomaly.
 
2013-06-19 06:43:35 PM
Holy crap those kittens are cute. Even if they are a travesty of nature.
 
2013-06-19 06:43:42 PM

Ramien: octopied: Awww, those little kitty sized things are going to grow up to be 500+ pound killing machines?

Seriously, how does a 500 pound beast have a 2-3 pound baby? Because lots of 100-200 pound women would like to know.
Especially my 5 '1 sister in law who barely cracks 100 pounds non pregnant. Her 7 pounder required an emergency c-section.

Having litters (instead of normally single births) helps a lot.


That's what my wife just said.  Then I made a "big pussy" joke and she glared at me.
 
2013-06-19 06:43:42 PM
Out comes the ol' Punnett square...
 
2013-06-19 06:45:42 PM

SwiftFox: So a cross of two of these is a lilililiger


And then one after that is a lililililiger
 
2013-06-19 07:00:09 PM
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Haters gonna hate
 
2013-06-19 07:01:49 PM
Good thing the Romans called them Leos and not Neos.
 
2013-06-19 07:05:16 PM
The GMO of big cats. Next up we mate them for their fang size.
 
2013-06-19 07:06:04 PM

Timid Goddess: balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?

Yes, they are.  And if a pair had an F2 baby it would also lack the stop growing now gene.  Does that mean tigons get stop growing now genes from both parents?


Tigons are apparently smaller than either parent species. If that helps. Probably not eh?
 
2013-06-19 07:30:15 PM
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This photo makes me want to call my mom and punch my brother.
 
2013-06-19 09:12:42 PM

octopied: Seriously, how does a 500 pound beast have a 2-3 pound baby? Because lots of 100-200 pound women would like to know.


Human babies have big heads.
 
2013-06-19 11:00:39 PM

theorellior: octopied: Seriously, how does a 500 pound beast have a 2-3 pound baby? Because lots of 100-200 pound women would like to know.

Human babies have big heads.


Apparently being a biped is a problem as well.
 
2013-06-19 11:06:45 PM
It's ligers all the way down.
 
2013-06-20 01:02:23 AM

Timid Goddess: balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?

Yes, they are.  And if a pair had an F2 baby it would also lack the stop growing now gene.  Does that mean tigons get stop growing now genes from both parents?


foo monkey: balancing act: Since this is Fark, and on Fark there is always SOMEONE that knows the answer; are ligers the ones that are missing the 'Hey, stop growing now" gene and can get ridiculously large?  And would that affect the ultimate size of these lili guys?

Yes, ligers are larger than both their lion/tiger parents.  I would think a liliger would be similarly large.

Female ligers aren't sterile.  Male ligers are.  They don't occur very often in nature, because lions and tigers rarely share the same habitat.  Female ligers can reproduce with male lions and tigers.

/learned way too much about ligers today


Thank you two. It sounds like there isn't much of a chance for an F2 generation if the males are sterile.  Probably for the best..


Gothnet:

Yes, they are.  And if a pair had an F2 baby it would also lack the stop growing now gene.  Does that mean tigons get stop growing now genes from both parents?

Tigons are apparently smaller than either parent species. If that helps. Probably not eh?


So if we kept cross breeding Tigons could we get little tiny tigons?  Hmm.  Guess that niche is already filled.
 
2013-06-20 02:00:53 AM
Wow, those are some surprisingly spotty kitties (yes, I know that tiger stripes are effectively an odd variant of tabby colouration, and I know there isn't too much difference between traditional tabbies (and spotty cats) and marble tabbies (with stripes being at the other end of the spectrum)--a marble-tabby pattern is known in king cheetahs--and I know that baaaaaaby lions tend to be somewhat spotty and then grow out of their spots).  Rather almost like leopard or jaguar spots or even clouded leopard colouration--it's going to be interesting to see if they keep their spots as adults.

(And no, I do not encourage the breeding of ligers and liger-spawn, but this IS actually pretty interesting in a feline genetics aspect--we can KIND of see it with little cats and with ur-kitties close to the base of Kitty Evolution (the puma-cheetah clade), we don't get to see it too often with pantherines, though.  Maybe these little adorable genetic nightmares can give hints on how kitties get properly spotty :D)
 
2013-06-20 01:40:55 PM
For those of you wondering about the "How liger was able to have little babbys" angle, here goes:

A scientist back in the 1920's discovered a principle (Haldane's rule) that the heterozygous sex offspring of a cross of two related species was sterile.  In this case a male (XY) liger can't have offspring, and therefore there is no such thing as an offspring of two ligers.  The female of such a hybrid (XX) may be fertile, although not necessarily (for example, female mules are rarely fertile even if they have estrus).

And to clarify, Morgellons, lions (Panthera leo) and tigers (Panthera tigrisare different species, oh my.  But it has nothing necessarily to do with native range since lions and tigers used to have wider ranges that did indeed overlap.
 
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