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(Opposing Views)   Here's the deal, son: I want you to spend 60 days in jail and really think about the two people you just killed   ( divider line 11
    More: Asinine, head-on collision, Kansas State University, drunk drivers, Bosch, minimum sentence, jail  
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9928 clicks; posted to Main » on 19 Jun 2013 at 1:36 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-06-19 01:41:17 PM  
4 votes:
FTA: "Bosch said he knew the sentence would be unpopular, but he hoped it would lead Theurer to give up alcohol altogether. "

This is what happens when you classify a failure in personal responsibility as a disease.
2013-06-19 01:48:55 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA:  ...because he believes the incident was atypical.

What a bunch of sh*t.

You know what is atypical?  Dying at age 31.
2013-06-19 04:10:02 PM  
1 votes:

MonkeyMaster: I actually drive that road to and from work everyday. When the accident happened they were doing (and still are) road construction, taking a divided four lane down to a two lane. And the two lane at the time they were using was the southbound lane. Those two lanes were divided with little orange cones, not the best marker IMHO. I could see how someone with a little impairment (tired/alcohol/crack/road head) could think they were driving in the left hand southbound lane when in fact they were in the northbound lane. Maybe thats what made it atypical.

Ok, that makes more sense.  I've encountered some very confusing lanes in road construction.  If a cone or two gets knocked down where they are shifting the lanes it can be very hard to know.

When you see big downward departures it's usually because while they were drunk the situation likely would have happened anyway had they been sober.

On the other hand I would like to see serious DUI offenses (or a second DUI offense, period) carry a lifetime no-alcohol probation requirement.  You've shown you can't handle it, give it up.
2013-06-19 02:42:26 PM  
1 votes:

meanmutton: A (criminal defense)  lawyer friend of mine once said that if you're going to murder someone, run them over with your car and then quickly down a pint of vodka, be sure to be the one to call the cops, and be performing CPR on them when the cops get there.

In Texas you just shoot them and then plant your wallet on the body.
2013-06-19 02:25:41 PM  
1 votes:

Highroller48: Of course the sentence is ridiculously light.

However, the REAL hypocrisy here is that the outrage is coming from a site populated by people that think random DUI checkstops and pre-set BAC limits are unconstitutional.

This guy killed 2 people and got off easy so everyone is guilty of drunk driving...or something.
2013-06-19 02:09:28 PM  
1 votes:

Somaticasual: In fairness, at least this one got jailtime. The blond girl in Austin, however, was a travesty of justice. Left the girl to die on the side of the road while she went home and "slept it off" => innocent.

You mean this one?

AUSTIN (KXAN) - Gabrielle Nestande will serve 180 days in jail in the May 2011 hit-and-run death of Courtney Griffin, Judge Karen Sage ruled Monday.
The judge also ruled that the 25-year-old former state Capitol aide must write a letter of apology to the Griffin family and pay a $10,000 fine. Also, if she violates the terms of the 10-year probation -- which includes drinking or taking illegal drugs -- Nestande will go to prison, Sage said.
2013-06-19 02:02:01 PM  
1 votes:
On the one hand, it's kind of nice to see the system actually trying to rehabilitate someone.  On the other hand, all drunk drivers should be shot in the head and thrown to the pigs.

Not sure how to feel about this one.
2013-06-19 01:58:16 PM  
1 votes:

Firethorn: Um...  yeah...

Normally I'm all for shorter sentences; combined with actual work at reforming people, it's just plain cheaper.

But 60 days for killing 2 people?  I could only see that if it's only the start of punishment/reform - mandatory alcohol counseling, years of community service, etc...

TFA says that is just the beginning. He has to spend the 60 days in jail coming up with a program to help prevent DUI deaths. Then after 60 days in jail he's released to house arrest. While on house arrest he must perform the program 36 times.

\not saying I agree with it, just saying it is just the beginning
2013-06-19 01:55:25 PM  
1 votes:

labman: 60 whole days. Wow.

How about this, chop off one of his hands and tell him if he's ever caught drinking and driving, he loses the other one.

Move to Saudi Arabia.

If he had crossed over the center line while sober you'd be saying what a tragedy it must be for this young man to have to live with knowing he killed 2 people.

What the linked article fails to mention is that this was a plea bargain.  It also fails to mention that it occurred in a construction zone which caused opposing lanes of traffic to be right next to each other.  And what of his 3 passengers? Should they not bear some responsibility too?

And of course, his sentence is not just 60 days.  There's more to it than that.

/just playing devil's advocate.
2013-06-19 01:40:00 PM  
1 votes:
60 whole days. Wow.

How about this, chop off one of his hands and tell him if he's ever caught drinking and driving, he loses the other one.
2013-06-19 01:38:15 PM  
1 votes:
Is he a Kennedy or something?
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