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(The Daily Caller)   Louisiana state Senator explains why he switched parties: the GOP is better at issues like minority employment, education, and helping black communities   (dailycaller.com) divider line 54
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2013-06-19 12:53:08 PM  
I'm pretty sure they both suck at this.
 
2013-06-19 01:02:21 PM  
"The basic American values have been abandoned, I believe, by the Democratic Party. Just to give you a couple of examples, here in Louisiana - and I speak more of Louisiana than anything else, but it is true nationally as well - but with respect to gun rights, with respect to abortion, prayer in school, with respect to marriage, family, all of those, the state party has left Louisiana behind, and they have left me behind as well," the pro-life former Democrat told TheDC.

So, the headline should really be "Ultra-conservative joins GOP". Why is this news exactly? Did Subby just discover the Blue Dogs?
 
2013-06-19 01:11:28 PM  
Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.
 
2013-06-19 01:18:41 PM  
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Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
 
2013-06-19 01:19:12 PM  
Also, they pay more
 
2013-06-19 01:19:32 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.


And Cops? Man, they just sit around all day eating donuts.
 
2013-06-19 01:24:04 PM  
"Perhaps to me the biggest disappointment has been the way the Democratic Party has treated the black community, as though we are simply in the hip pocket of the Democrats,"

Hilarious.

He was a Republican until 2007. He switched parties, to the Democratic party, to run for office.
He failed, but ran again in 2009 (again as a Democrat) and was elected.
Now he's simply switching back to Republican, which if you listen to him spout off about abortion, guns, "family values" (i.e. anti-gay policies), school prayer... pretty clear, from an ideological standpoint, his views never changed.

Guillory said that the people of his district did not necessarily vote for a Democrat, but for him.
"They voted for a man"


Right, right, that's why you switched to Democrat the same year you ran for office.
Sounds like the Democratic party suited him just fine when he could use it to get elected.
 
2013-06-19 01:27:25 PM  
This is the guy who argued faith healing should be allowed in science class.

Any doubt he was a Republican?
 
2013-06-19 01:31:51 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.


When asked about how the GOP could attract more minority voters Guillory advocated more "sensitivity."

Nice work there, dipshiat.
 
2013-06-19 01:58:57 PM  
For fair consideration, the state senator hails from here:

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2013-06-19 02:03:36 PM  
Okay, seriously, is there something in the water in Louisiana?

...

...

... besides New Orleans citizens?

/I'm so sorry.
 
2013-06-19 02:05:01 PM  

Bloody William: Okay, seriously, is there something in the water in Louisiana?

...

...

... besides New Orleans citizens?

/I'm so sorry.


There's also BP oil...
 
2013-06-19 02:06:25 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: "Perhaps to me the biggest disappointment has been the way the Democratic Party has treated the black community, as though we are simply in the hip pocket of the Democrats,"

Hilarious.

He was a Republican until 2007. He switched parties, to the Democratic party, to run for office.
He failed, but ran again in 2009 (again as a Democrat) and was elected.
Now he's simply switching back to Republican, which if you listen to him spout off about abortion, guns, "family values" (i.e. anti-gay policies), school prayer... pretty clear, from an ideological standpoint, his views never changed.

Guillory said that the people of his district did not necessarily vote for a Democrat, but for him.
"They voted for a man"

Right, right, that's why you switched to Democrat the same year you ran for office.
Sounds like the Democratic party suited him just fine when he could use it to get elected.


Sounds like Bloomberg. D > R > I, whichever would get him elected.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 02:08:57 PM  
The comments make the article for me. I couldn't produce a better caricature of the GOP and their constituents if I was paid to do it. It'd be comical if not for the fact that these are actual beliefs.

"Liberals and progressives, in particular, are pure evil. If they'll callously murder unborn babies, they'll certainly callously murder you if provided the power and the opportunity."

"Obama is a stuttering idiot burn out coke head. Haven't you ever heard him try to speak when his teleprompter quits on him? He sounds intelligent as long as he is reading words that were written for him by others. Why did he hide all his grades and transcripts? Because they show he is a fraud."

"I want free free free stuff and the GOP wants to take them away. Did you ever hear of Margaret Sanger? Democrat who created Planned Parenthood to ELIMINATE blacks. Try again."
 
2013-06-19 02:10:38 PM  
He just wants to work with the awesome governor we have here in "thank goodness for Mississippi", Louisiana. Last or First they're behind us on every list but we're working hard to change that. "Not second to last forever" that's our motto

Louisiana should have its own Tag.
 
2013-06-19 02:10:45 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: tallguywithglasseson: "Perhaps to me the biggest disappointment has been the way the Democratic Party has treated the black community, as though we are simply in the hip pocket of the Democrats,"

Hilarious.

He was a Republican until 2007. He switched parties, to the Democratic party, to run for office.
He failed, but ran again in 2009 (again as a Democrat) and was elected.
Now he's simply switching back to Republican, which if you listen to him spout off about abortion, guns, "family values" (i.e. anti-gay policies), school prayer... pretty clear, from an ideological standpoint, his views never changed.

Guillory said that the people of his district did not necessarily vote for a Democrat, but for him.
"They voted for a man"

Right, right, that's why you switched to Democrat the same year you ran for office.
Sounds like the Democratic party suited him just fine when he could use it to get elected.

Sounds like Bloomberg. D > R > I, whichever would get him elected.


Well, I want to run against the Republican who beat me in the primary, but I don't have the cash to front an independent/third-party run.  SWITCH TO DEMOCRAT!
 
2013-06-19 02:11:03 PM  
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2013-06-19 02:14:02 PM  

Bloody William: Okay, seriously, is there something in the water in Louisiana?

...

...

... besides New Orleans citizens?

/I'm so sorry.


Think about it: the Mississippi runs all the way from Canada to the Gulf.  All of the rivers in the Midwest deep into it, and all of that water passes by New Orleans, so they get all teh derp run-off from the rest of teh country.
 
2013-06-19 02:15:34 PM  

Theaetetus: So, the headline should really be "Ultra-conservative joins GOP". Why is this news exactly? Did Subby just discover the Blue Dogs?


FTFA: "I had two basic reactions, one from the officials of the Democrat Party..."

Daily Caller "editing" or this guy's true Republican colors shining through?

// he did use the correct adjective earlier, so I'm gonna chalk this one up to DC
 
2013-06-19 02:24:12 PM  

Arkanaut: Bloody William: Okay, seriously, is there something in the water in Louisiana?

...

...

... besides New Orleans citizens?

/I'm so sorry.

There's also BP oil...


Does the oil still have lead in it?  Because that would really explain a lot.
 
2013-06-19 02:27:42 PM  
More likely the democracts can't do anything because the GOP have decided not to compromise on any issue, and hold the economy hostage until they get what they want
 
2013-06-19 02:30:28 PM  
"Perhaps to me the biggest disappointment has been the way the Democratic Party has treated the black community, as though we are simply in the hip pocket of the Democrats," he explained.

From an article linked in TFA:

This is the second time Guillory, of Opelousas, has switched parties; the lawmaker was a Republican before running for the state House in 2007.

About Opelousas (from wiki): The racial makeup of the city was 69.12% African American, 29.30% White
(as of the 2000 census)

Seems like someone else treated the black community as if they were simply in the hip pocket of the Democrats back in 2007.
 
2013-06-19 02:31:40 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.


insure them against what?
 
2013-06-19 02:35:44 PM  
I haven't seen any Farkers try to refute any of Guillory's points.
 
2013-06-19 02:36:13 PM  

Arkanaut: Bloody William: Okay, seriously, is there something in the water in Louisiana?

...

...

... besides New Orleans citizens?

/I'm so sorry.

There's also BP oil...


And Corexit....lots and lots of Corexit.
 
2013-06-19 02:39:18 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: I haven't seen any Farkers try to refute any of Guillory's points.


His points on minority issues are vague and mindless, and he conflates them with social conservative values that have nothing to do with minority employment or education. When he rambles on about prayer in school, guns, and "the family" it's clear he's not speaking as someone whose primary concern is the black community, but whose primary concern is social conservative topics.

There. You farking happy?
 
2013-06-19 02:39:57 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: I haven't seen any Farkers try to refute any of Guillory's points.


He didn't make any points. "issues dealing with minority employment particularly, the condition of the black family, education, all the things that really affect the black communities across this country." Nothing in there is an "issue".

Face it, this guy is a social conservative who became a Dem to win an election and now he running home to mama and just trying to make it sound like it's not only because of teh ghey and abortion.
 
2013-06-19 02:44:31 PM  
Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.
 
2013-06-19 02:49:00 PM  
jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.

Except that these typically have very low voter participation : http://www.soc.umn.edu/~uggen/Swartz_Blackstone_Uggen_McLaughlin_TSQ_0 9.pdf
 
2013-06-19 02:49:36 PM  
"It was Republicans who offered the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments giving former slaves citizenship, voting rights and drew process of law."


"The idea that blacks or anyone, for that matter, need the government to get ahead in life is despicable."

Head asplode....
 
2013-06-19 02:52:29 PM  

Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.


Racist much?
 
2013-06-19 02:59:02 PM  
It's not hard to point at the failure of Democrats when you have New Orleans serving as a prime example only a short trip away from most of the state.
 
2013-06-19 03:08:27 PM  

Mrbogey: It's not hard to point at the failure of Democrats when you have New Orleans serving as a prime example only a short trip away from most of the state.


Okra / Andouille

(translation: 0/10)
 
2013-06-19 03:12:19 PM  

Theaetetus: "The basic American values have been abandoned, I believe, by the Democratic Party. Just to give you a couple of examples, here in Louisiana - and I speak more of Louisiana than anything else, but it is true nationally as well - but with respect to gun rights, with respect to abortion, prayer in school, with respect to marriage, family, all of those, the state party has left Louisiana behind, and they have left me behind as well," the pro-life former Democrat told TheDC.

So, the headline should really be "Ultra-conservative joins GOP". Why is this news exactly? Did Subby just discover the Blue Dogs?


So, Democrats don't persecute people enough for him.
 
2013-06-19 03:32:38 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: This is the guy who argued faith healing should be allowed in science class.

Any doubt he was a Republican?


Wow...just wow. That guy sounds frighteningly like the "Guam capsizing" idiot.
 
2013-06-19 03:54:10 PM  

Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.


Ah, beautiful double-down.

The outreach continues.
 
2013-06-19 04:03:13 PM  
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The face of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
2013-06-19 04:16:49 PM  

theknuckler_33: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

Racist much?


Nope.

African Americans are disproportionately represented in the sectors that legalized Mexicans would seek to work in. This is a fact. You can layer all of the social complications on and try to make this into a clusterfark of an issue, but at the end of the day, more competition in a give sector means higher unemployment and lower wages for workers in that sector. I imagine the dock workers and grocery store butchers and warehouse pickers don't really care whether it's whites, blacks, or Mexicans they have to compete with; they just don't want 10 million more people underbidding them for their jobs, and the Dems want to give it to them.
 
2013-06-19 04:19:55 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

Ah, beautiful double-down.

The outreach continues.


It was true the first time I said it, and no one has provided a satisfactory argument to disprove it. Like it or not, the illegality of the workers who are already here keeps them out of most sectors that a large number of African Americans work in. You legalize them and every hotel, restaurant, store, hospital, and parking garage in the country is going to go to its black (and white) workers and tell them "Ok, Jim. You've been making $12.50. You're down to $9 now or there's the door."
 
2013-06-19 04:20:47 PM  
"they just don't want 10 million more people underbidding them for their jobs, and the Dems want to give it to them."

For some reason I don't think you understand the wages undocumented workers can expect to be paid.
 
2013-06-19 04:25:57 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.


^^^Conservatards actually believe this^^^

/Study it out!
 
2013-06-19 04:45:33 PM  

Tommy Moo: theknuckler_33: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

Racist much?

Nope.

African Americans are disproportionately represented in the sectors that legalized Mexicans would seek to work in. This is a fact. You can layer all of the social complications on and try to make this into a clusterfark of an issue, but at the end of the day, more competition in a give sector means higher unemployment and lower wages for workers in that sector. I imagine the dock workers and grocery store butchers and warehouse pickers don't really care whether it's whites, blacks, or Mexicans they have to compete with; they just don't want 10 million more people underbidding them for their jobs, and the Dems want to give it to them.


Currently, the main advantage illegal workers have is that employers don't have to pay them minimum wage.  If they're legalized, they lose that advantage, so how much of a threat are they to those who are currently making minimum wage, slightly above the minimum wage?
 
2013-06-19 04:49:31 PM  
Sounds like a prudent career move.  I'm assuming that his ambitions include losing.
 
2013-06-19 05:05:15 PM  

Tommy Moo: tallguywithglasseson: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

Ah, beautiful double-down.

The outreach continues.

It was true the first time I said it, and no one has provided a satisfactory argument to disprove it. Like it or not, the illegality of the workers who are already here keeps them out of most sectors that a large number of African Americans work in. You legalize them and every hotel, restaurant, store, hospital, and parking garage in the country is going to go to its black (and white) workers and tell them "Ok, Jim. You've been making $12.50. You're down to $9 now or there's the door."


I think that might be illegal.
 
2013-06-19 05:16:25 PM  
What pushed Louisiana state Sen. Elbert Guillory to become a Republican was some idle talk about racism from a state Democratic Party official.  After Louisiana Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen Carter Peterson's assertion that opponents to Obamacare are motivated by "the race of this African-American president," Guillory had to answer to a constituency every politician worries about - his own mother.


So, what exactly is the motivation to not just oppose Obamacare (which was based on the Republicans' alternative to Hillary Clinton's plan for universal healthcare in the 90s) but vote against it 30-something times in the House, knowing that they don't have enough votes in the Senate to repeal it? I mean, I get the idea that they don't like the fact that Obama got credit for passing legislation, but it's their legislation; most liberals wanted something closer to European-style socialized healthcare.  I certainly don't think race is the only motivation, but I do think that using the fact that a Democrat official accused Republicans of having that motivation is a bizarre reason for joining the Republicans.

Maybe he just didn't know what the Democrats positions were on issues like gun rights, abortion, prayer in school, and marriage when he joined up in '07. . .
 
2013-06-19 05:41:06 PM  

X-boxershorts: jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.

^^^Conservatards actually believe this^^^

/Study it out!


They believe it, and half of the time they use the word "slavery" to describe such tactics, which of course brings tons of minorities rallying to their cause.
 
2013-06-19 05:44:22 PM  

Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.


you believe the illegals in this country aren't already working picking and harvesting & farming? they are here & doing those jobs already illegally.
this whole farking immigration deal is a handout to American farmers.
 
2013-06-19 05:48:41 PM  

Isitoveryet: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

you believe the illegals in this country aren't already working picking and harvesting & farming? they are here & doing those jobs already illegally.
this whole farking immigration deal is a handout to American farmers.


Jeeze.   Because illegal immigrants don't work in restaurant kitchens or anything like that; just farms huh.
 
2013-06-19 05:54:29 PM  

Third Day Mark: Isitoveryet: Tommy Moo: Technically there are some merits to this. The GOP is largely the party that is against forcing black workers to compete with 10 million newly legalized Mexicans. If the Dems have their way, there will be millions more unemployed African Americans, in addition to lower wages for those who can continue to work.

you believe the illegals in this country aren't already working picking and harvesting & farming? they are here & doing those jobs already illegally.
this whole farking immigration deal is a handout to American farmers.

Jeeze.   Because illegal immigrants don't work in restaurant kitchens or anything like that; just farms huh.


quick generalization, didn't think i needed to list the entire spectrum of illegal employment.
 
2013-06-19 06:13:56 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Dems like to get minorities on welfare and keep them there to insure votes.


I'm blatantly feeding a known, shameless troll who has no true genuine feelings about a thing he says just so long as it supports "his team" but look at the voting demographics of those on public aid and seriously state that complete fiction again asshat.
 
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