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2013-06-19 02:31:49 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek: Think about it.

Think about how much your heart swelled with pride for Bush for springing into action the next time a friend or neighbor's kid comes home in a box.

War is not a game.

Or how much pride you take in a drone strike against an American citizen.

We're talking about reality, sparky, something you have no concept of.

Drone strikes against American Citizens is a reality, Sparky.

Holy cow, you really are unable-to-tie-your-own-shoes stupid.

Wow.


And that's your response? So you still want to live in a world of denial that Obama does drone strike American Citizens? You poor deluded soul.

/Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!
 
2013-06-19 02:32:03 PM  
It doesn't really matter to me if your President is Republican, Democrat, black, white, or elected with X% of the popular vote. I don't care about your country's political landscape and intentions.

If your army blows up my dirt hut, it blows up my dirt hut. That's my reality. And now I don't like you... and I'm probably going to not like you and your country for a very, very long time.
 
2013-06-19 02:34:49 PM  
I love the dismissal by many here.

I'm sure this kind of thing would be dismissed just as quickly if someone else was president, right?
 
2013-06-19 02:37:10 PM  

muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!


Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.
 
2013-06-19 02:37:34 PM  
You know, I used to be obsessed with the Vietnam war.

I studied it in depth, and it sickened me so badly, the only positive I could find is that America would probably never again get involved in such a shiatty mess if they thought it out beforehand, and knew the goddamn right time to either finish it or get out of Dodge.  I even remember seeing the airlift off of the U.S. embassy in 1975.

I was wrong, we did get into another unwinnable war based on body counts as a measure of progress towards victory.  I was wrong.
 
2013-06-19 02:40:08 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.


Oh, was he not an American Citizen?
 
2013-06-19 02:41:05 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.


Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.
 
2013-06-19 02:42:41 PM  
"Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass."

FARK would be wiped out for sure.
 
2013-06-19 02:45:21 PM  

muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.

Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.


So you're saying you support those who declare war against their own country and stand with al qaeda.

Do you cry about him daily?  You are okay with supporting terrorists aligned with al qaeda?  Have you or would you commit treason against the United States?  How long have you been a traitor?
 
2013-06-19 02:45:34 PM  
muck4doo:
Oh, was he not an American Citizen?

Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.


c'mon, tell us what a great American he was and how proud of him you are and that what happened to him was an injustice to all Americans & that your aren't being obtuse as he was a true Patriot.

c'mon, no questions, no misdirection, what about the man did you respect enough to use him as an anti drone martyr.
 
2013-06-19 02:46:42 PM  

elbriley: "Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass."

FARK would be wiped out for sure.


Hah! exactly, there more to it but Muck wont share, it wold defeat his argument .... well, his delusion.
 
2013-06-19 02:46:50 PM  

Jake Havechek: Drone strikes against American Citizens is a reality, Sparky.

Holy cow, you really are unable-to-tie-your-own-shoes stupid.

Wow.


I might be feeding the troll, but I am pretty sure the american that he mentioned was one Anwar al-Alwaki.  An honest to god American who was killed by drone strike in northern Yemin.  There was no trial, and an American (native born) was killed abroad by drone.  Citation

I, for one, am not comfortable with how the whole thing played out, even if Anwar probably DID deserve a good beatdown.
 
2013-06-19 02:48:05 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.

Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.

So you're saying you support those who declare war against their own country and stand with al qaeda.

Do you cry about him daily?  You are okay with supporting terrorists aligned with al qaeda?  Have you or would you commit treason against the United States?  How long have you been a traitor?


Obama should drone strike Ayers by that justification.

/Have you ever sat and pondered what an idiot you are?
 
2013-06-19 02:49:14 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo:
Oh, was he not an American Citizen?

Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.


c'mon, tell us what a great American he was and how proud of him you are and that what happened to him was an injustice to all Americans & that your aren't being obtuse as he was a true Patriot.

c'mon, no questions, no misdirection, what about the man did you respect enough to use him as an anti drone martyr.


Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.
 
2013-06-19 02:49:31 PM  
If you want to talk about Anwar al-Alwaki, what was your attitude about John Walker Lindh?

I recall the sentiment from conservatives was a lot different, then, hmmm?

Or how 'bout Jose Padilla?
 
2013-06-19 02:51:03 PM  
muck4doo:

/Have you ever sat and pondered what an idiot you are?

Have you ever thought about how much of a traitor you are?
 
2013-06-19 02:51:47 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo:

/Have you ever sat and pondered what an idiot you are?

Have you ever thought about how much of a traitor you are?


You gonna drone strike me?
 
2013-06-19 02:53:16 PM  

muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.


Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.
 
2013-06-19 02:58:42 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.


Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader
 
2013-06-19 03:04:30 PM  

muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.

Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader


And that, friends and neighbors, is why Mr. Muck is a certified bonehead.
 
2013-06-19 03:06:46 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.

Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader

And that, friends and neighbors, is why Mr. Muck is a certified bonehead.


Don't drone strike me bro!
 
2013-06-19 03:07:29 PM  

muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.

Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader


buy you aren't a threat to this country, you're just some person on the internet defending a traitorous murderer to make political points.
It's funny if you are attempting to liken yourself to such a monster.
 
2013-06-19 03:08:15 PM  
Jake Havechek , deciderer of good and bad Americans.
 
2013-06-19 03:09:31 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.


He wasn't given a trial before being executed?
 
2013-06-19 03:10:01 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.

Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader

buy you aren't a threat to this country, you're just some person on the internet defending a traitorous murderer to make political points.
It's funny if you are attempting to liken yourself to such a monster.


Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.
 
2013-06-19 03:11:18 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Bad American! Need drone strike! You are a totalitarian idiot.

Bwhahah! you can't defend him and are too stubborn to admit it.
you can call me names until you feel better, i don't mind.

Just drone strike me as a bad American who doesn't agree with Dear Leader

And that, friends and neighbors, is why Mr. Muck is a certified bonehead.


I don't think muck is defending him.  I think muck is saying that drone bombing  any American citizen without a trial is wrong.

You apparently disagree and are fine with that type of thing.  I'm sure you would have also been fine with it had Bush drone bombed an American citizen without a trial.  Right?
 
2013-06-19 03:11:49 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.

He wasn't given a trial before being executed?


his God can judge him.
 
2013-06-19 03:12:06 PM  

muck4doo: Jake Havechek , deciderer of good and bad Americans.


Nope, that was your hero Bush, who pushed the USA Patriot Act through and essentially eliminated the 4th Amendment, while you cheered him on.

Short memory motherfarker...
 
2013-06-19 03:12:41 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.

He wasn't given a trial before being executed?


If Obama wants to do some killing of American Citizens without trial it's O-Tay with many of our Fark totalitarian douchebags who love him.
 
2013-06-19 03:13:19 PM  

muck4doo: Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.


you sure do ask a lot of questions. go on and tell us what a wonderful American he was & how proud and patriotic he makes you feel.
 
2013-06-19 03:14:31 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: I may hurt some feelings here, but only an idiot would trust Oblamma.


That's because expecting a politician to ride in and save the day is dumb. Even FDR who was a saint as these things go, decided to punt and put Japanese Americans in camps.
 
2013-06-19 03:15:33 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek , deciderer of good and bad Americans.

Nope, that was your hero Bush, who pushed the USA Patriot Act through and essentially eliminated the 4th Amendment, while you cheered him on.

Short memory motherfarker...


Where did I cheer it on? And why does Bush make it an excuse where you can cheerlead killing American Citizens without a trial. For saying you hate one thing so much, you sure do go out of your way to defend killing American Citizens without trial.

/But but but Bush!
 
2013-06-19 03:16:08 PM  
GanjSmokr:

You apparently disagree and are fine with that type of thing.  I'm sure you would have also been fine with it had Bush drone bombed an American citizen without a trial.  Right?

Am I?

I recall hearing about grousing about "Miranda rights having to be read on the battlefield" from your set.  Or objections to American citizens and non-citizens alike being tried for terrorist acts in civilian courts as common criminals, affording them all the legal resources available to American citizens

So which is it?
 
2013-06-19 03:16:41 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.

you sure do ask a lot of questions. go on and tell us what a wonderful American he was & how proud and patriotic he makes you feel.


No, you convinced us he was a bad American and needed some killing courtesy Obama.
 
2013-06-19 03:17:17 PM  

Jake Havechek: GanjSmokr:

You apparently disagree and are fine with that type of thing.  I'm sure you would have also been fine with it had Bush drone bombed an American citizen without a trial.  Right?

Am I?

I recall hearing about grousing about "Miranda rights having to be read on the battlefield" from your set.  Or objections to American citizens and non-citizens alike being tried for terrorist acts in civilian courts as common criminals, affording them all the legal resources available to American citizens

So which is it?


But but but Bush!
 
2013-06-19 03:17:18 PM  

Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.

you sure do ask a lot of questions. go on and tell us what a wonderful American he was & how proud and patriotic he makes you feel.


Let's try it this way...

He was a terrible American and a traitor, but drone bombing American citizens without a trial is WRONG.

Is that too hard to agree with?
 
2013-06-19 03:17:44 PM  

muck4doo: Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek , deciderer of good and bad Americans.

Nope, that was your hero Bush, who pushed the USA Patriot Act through and essentially eliminated the 4th Amendment, while you cheered him on.

Short memory motherfarker...

Where did I cheer it on? And why does Bush make it an excuse where you can cheerlead killing American Citizens without a trial. For saying you hate one thing so much, you sure do go out of your way to defend killing American Citizens without trial.

/But but but Bush!


So when are you selling the Anwar T shirts and starting a charity in his name?
 
2013-06-19 03:18:58 PM  

Jake Havechek: GanjSmokr:

You apparently disagree and are fine with that type of thing.  I'm sure you would have also been fine with it had Bush drone bombed an American citizen without a trial.  Right?

Am I?

I recall hearing about grousing about "Miranda rights having to be read on the battlefield" from your set.  Or objections to American citizens and non-citizens alike being tried for terrorist acts in civilian courts as common criminals, affording them all the legal resources available to American citizens

So which is it?


I guess it's all okay then with you.
 
2013-06-19 03:19:56 PM  

Jake Havechek: from your set


I'm not the drone you're looking for.  I don't fall easily into a "set"...  I was against this shiat when Bush was in office and I'm against it now.  You talk like you are fine with it now, so I have to assume you were fine with it when Bush did it.  Or you're a partisan hypocrite.  Which one is it?
 
2013-06-19 03:20:10 PM  

GanjSmokr: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.

you sure do ask a lot of questions. go on and tell us what a wonderful American he was & how proud and patriotic he makes you feel.

Let's try it this way...

He was a terrible American and a traitor, but drone bombing American citizens without a trial is WRONG.

Is that too hard to agree with?


I believe that once he sided with al-Qaeda & took up arms against my fellow Americans, he cease to be an American by choice.  He denounced America long before he was blown up in a car with other al-Queda members.
 
2013-06-19 03:20:17 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Jake Havechek , deciderer of good and bad Americans.

Nope, that was your hero Bush, who pushed the USA Patriot Act through and essentially eliminated the 4th Amendment, while you cheered him on.

Short memory motherfarker...

Where did I cheer it on? And why does Bush make it an excuse where you can cheerlead killing American Citizens without a trial. For saying you hate one thing so much, you sure do go out of your way to defend killing American Citizens without trial.

/But but but Bush!

So when are you selling the Anwar T shirts and starting a charity in his name?


Is that all you have to say about that? Go back to your cheer leading then.
 
2013-06-19 03:21:21 PM  

Isitoveryet: GanjSmokr: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: Oh, was he tried in a court of law and found guilty with the death penalty as a verdict? Or was he a bad American and you are okay with killing his ass? Sounds like the second.

you sure do ask a lot of questions. go on and tell us what a wonderful American he was & how proud and patriotic he makes you feel.

Let's try it this way...

He was a terrible American and a traitor, but drone bombing American citizens without a trial is WRONG.

Is that too hard to agree with?

I believe that once he sided with al-Qaeda & took up arms against my fellow Americans, he cease to be an American by choice.  He denounced America long before he was blown up in a car with other al-Queda members.


Good for you Judge Dredd
 
2013-06-19 03:21:22 PM  
But but but Bush!


It is relevant.

Conservatives cried about cruise missile strikes that went awry, so they could blame a Democrat.  Then suddenly, they cared not a whit about Iraqi and Afghan civilians being blown to bits.  Now they suddenly support people who declare war against their own countries.

It's a crazy world.
 
2013-06-19 03:21:47 PM  

muck4doo: So when are you selling the Anwar T shirts and starting a charity in his name?

Is that all you have to say about that? Go back to your cheer leading then.


oh brother, coming from you that's real comedy.
 
2013-06-19 03:22:27 PM  

muck4doo: Good for you Judge Dredd


LOL
 
2013-06-19 03:22:57 PM  

Jake Havechek: But but but Bush!


It is relevant.

Conservatives cried about cruise missile strikes that went awry, so they could blame a Democrat.  Then suddenly, they cared not a whit about Iraqi and Afghan civilians being blown to bits.  Now they suddenly support people who declare war against their own countries.

It's a crazy world.


It's a crazy world when you cry about one guy, but are perfectly okay and excuse the crimes of another, becuase.....He did it first!
 
2013-06-19 03:27:08 PM  

muck4doo: Jake Havechek: But but but Bush!


It is relevant.

Conservatives cried about cruise missile strikes that went awry, so they could blame a Democrat.  Then suddenly, they cared not a whit about Iraqi and Afghan civilians being blown to bits.  Now they suddenly support people who declare war against their own countries.

It's a crazy world.

It's a crazy world when you cry about one guy, but are perfectly okay and excuse the crimes of another, becuase.....He did it first!


One guy like John Walker Lindh or Jose Padilla?
 
2013-06-19 03:27:32 PM  
This is all Clinton's fault.
//can we still hate Clinton?
 
2013-06-19 03:28:36 PM  

iheartscotch: So, we don't even get confirmation that the group of people are members of Al Queda before we blow them up?

/ if bush had done this; he'd be labeled as a war criminal by the left


If Bush had done this, he would be labeled a HERO by the right.
//durp works both ways
 
2013-06-19 03:32:24 PM  

Jake Havechek: muck4doo: Isitoveryet: muck4doo: /Check it out! Jake thinks Obama doesn't do drone strikes on American Citizens!

Anwar al-Awlaki? that's your example of drone strikes on American citizens? are you telling me that you believe al-Awlaki to have been an innocent American minding his own business when boom?

i want to hear you defend this man.

Maybe he wasn't an American you liked. That makes it okay to drone strike his ass.

So you're saying you support those who declare war against their own country and stand with al qaeda.

Do you cry about him daily?  You are okay with supporting terrorists aligned with al qaeda?  Have you or would you commit treason against the United States?  How long have you been a traitor?


interesting that you jump to the Alwaliki the father. Ok even though they never charged him with a crime, crimes the administration claims are easy as pie to see, they never charged him with a crime. So you might not think that is a big deal but treason etc that you are throwing around left and right have very specific definitions. Lets also forget for a moment that the guy you are saying deserved extra-judicial killing was also invited to the pentagon on numerous occasions and touted as an example of moderate Islam. So these same folks you trust to carry out these assassinations are the same folks who told you that guy was A OK. Also we know that several Americans have been killed in drone strikes. We don't know all of their names as it is highly classified. One of the folks we do know that was killed just happened to be a 16 year old kid. Now if you have you tube videos of him declaring jihad or anything other than his dad was an asshole I think people would like to see that because as far as I know NO explanation has been given as to why the 16 year old awaliki was assassinated.

And those are just the Americans we know about.

And I don't cry for anyone. I cry for the constitution because folks like you and the people you pick to represent your views shiat all over the document that set this nation apart and made it special.
 
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