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2013-06-19 10:24:00 AM
Let's see how long it takes for her to flip to Democrat now.
 
2013-06-19 10:26:15 AM
NTTAWWT
 
2013-06-19 10:33:24 AM
Note to self: never piss off an Alaskan woman.

// between Palin and Merk Murck Murkou the current senior Senator from AK, seems like acrimony is the official state sport
// though I guess Lisa M has always been a moderate
 
2013-06-19 01:10:35 PM

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2013-06-19 01:16:29 PM
This is the lady that was primaried out of the party and had to run a write-in campaign. And won. Yet for some reason she still calls herself a Republican
 
2013-06-19 01:17:13 PM
I'm honestly surprised to not see Collins on that list.  Guess she isn't THAT much of a RINO...
 
2013-06-19 01:17:45 PM
Mutation: it is the key to our evolution. It has enabled us to evolve from a single-celled organism into the dominant species on the planet. This process is slow, and normally taking thousands and thousands of years. But every few hundred millennia, evolution leaps forward.

If these GOPers don't watch themselves, they're going to be labeled X-Republicans!

Regardless, I applaud their "evolution" on the issue.
 
2013-06-19 01:17:47 PM
Wonder how much of this is a fark you to the Tea party asshats who tried and failed to primary her out of office.
 
2013-06-19 01:22:02 PM

Lost Thought 00: Yet for some reason she still calls herself a Republican


Perhaps because she caucuses with the Republican Senate Caucus?
 
2013-06-19 01:28:59 PM

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Interesting that there's a dip in the numbers from the 40s and the 50s folks. I wonder what accounts for that?
 
2013-06-19 01:31:02 PM
Well isn't that just special.
 
2013-06-19 01:34:20 PM
"This is a hard issue," she admitted

No. It's an easy issue.
It's gender discrimination plain and simple.
People are being denied the right to marry because of their gender, not because of their sexual orientation.
 
2013-06-19 01:44:24 PM

xanadian: I'm honestly surprised to not see Collins on that list.  Guess she isn't THAT much of a RINO...


Collins will be the next Republican to come out in support. Collins has dodged questions about her views, and I expect her to announce her support for gay marriage sometime either during the primary or just after the primary is over.

She also would likely vote against a filibuster, even if she disagreed with gay marriage.
 
2013-06-19 01:44:43 PM
Is it sad that my first thought on seeing the headline was "which family member just came out to her?"

Glad to see that her motivation was not so self-serving.
 
2013-06-19 01:45:40 PM
Good for her.

Welcome aboard the sane train.

Glad to see you got off the GOP crazy train and joined modern civilization.
 
2013-06-19 01:47:00 PM
Good.  This is but one issue that we're wasting our time on and killing the party.  Sun Tzu said not to fight a battle you can't win, and this one was lost in Ft. Collins, CO, in 1998.
 
2013-06-19 01:50:11 PM

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Interesting that there's a dip in the numbers from the 40s and the 50s folks. I wonder what accounts for that?


Bunch of young people dying in WWII, resulting in more crotchety old people as a percentage?
 
2013-06-19 02:10:12 PM
But they still vote against repealing things like DOMA and DADT like Scott Brown did. They say it for votes but when they have to vote they vote with the most conservative members still.
 
2013-06-19 02:10:50 PM
Ok republicans are coming out.
 
2013-06-19 02:11:53 PM
"First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?
 
2013-06-19 02:12:41 PM
Somebody better warn Facebook that there's gonna be a word salad assault on the English language of titanic proportion spewing from a Wasilla Phoenix-area eMachine any minute now, you betcha!
 
2013-06-19 02:13:02 PM

SilentStrider: Wonder how much of this is a fark you to the Tea party asshats who tried and failed to primary her out of office.


It might simply a flip-o-teh-bird to Palin.
Seriously.  Those 2 HATE each other.
 
2013-06-19 02:16:10 PM

vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?


We do.  Except now they insist on calling us democrats.

(no really.  I'm a registered republican...and no one believes me anymore, I'm just another libby lib libtard democrat.  My views have not changed.  At all.  The party sure has though)
 
2013-06-19 02:16:41 PM

vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?


Because they are vilified as libertarians?
 
2013-06-19 02:16:42 PM
Murkowski says ANYTHING she thinks will get her corrupt ass elected again.  She's worse than farking Romney that way.  Two separate phone calls to two people on the opposite sides of the same issue and she'll give support to both sides.  She just knows which way the wind is blowing.
 
2013-06-19 02:17:13 PM
Why any woman would be a GOPer is beyond me.

"HURR why single issue there is much to the GOP than a single issue DERR"

Really, derper?

1) Against equal pay
2) Against reproductive rights
     a) birth control
     b) abortion
3) Against universal healthcare (well, now they are)
4) Not very delicate when it comes to rape
5) Seem to think that gender roles are written into the Bible and therefore law
 
2013-06-19 02:17:45 PM
She doesn't deserve the "Hero" tag for doing what any decent, moral human being should.
 
2013-06-19 02:17:57 PM

gadian: Murkowski says ANYTHING she thinks will get her corrupt ass elected again.  She's worse than farking Romney that way.  Two separate phone calls to two people on the opposite sides of the same issue and she'll give support to both sides.  She just knows which way the wind is blowing.


But does she know a hawk from a handsaw?
 
2013-06-19 02:20:16 PM

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You know, I see that posted in all of these threads, and I really do want to believe it is true.  There are so, so many things that could occur to upend that whole chart though.  And just because those born in the 70's, 80's, and 90's feel that way, doesn't mean as they age, they will continue to feel the same way.  Popular opinion also doesn't write the laws of the land, a few well funded individuals with a zealous following can overturn popular support.

Those of us that support marriage equality must continue to fight, even if it looks like the demographics will turn in our favor in the future.
 
2013-06-19 02:20:55 PM
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2013-06-19 02:23:08 PM

Ricardo Klement: Good.  This is but one issue that we're wasting our time on and killing the party.  Sun Tzu said not to fight a battle you can't win, and this one was lost in Ft. Collins, CO, in 1998.


To what are you referring?
 
2013-06-19 02:23:09 PM
Perhaps, and I sure hope, Roberts will read these changes as a bit of cover to let him do the right thing and end up with a legacy more Loving and less Plessy.

Ok, I will stop dreaming now
 
2013-06-19 02:24:22 PM
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2013-06-19 02:29:22 PM

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Every time I see that cohort graph I think, "Cool, we just need to wait for some old folks to do off." And then I feel bad because my mom is a senior. And then I feel better because she supports marriage equality. And then I think about what a cool mom I have.

/she also wants to legalize drugs, gambling, and prostitution
 
2013-06-19 02:31:39 PM

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Interesting that there's a dip in the numbers from the 40s and the 50s folks. I wonder what accounts for that?

Bunch of young people dying in WWII, resulting in more crotchety old people as a percentage?


The chart is a percentage of population, so I'm pretty sure that's not it.
 
2013-06-19 02:32:02 PM

vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?


They do. They are called the Democrats. If it's Republicans you are thinking about, they are (a) not conservative, and (b) not interested in anything involving love, compassion, or basic human decency.
 
2013-06-19 02:33:49 PM
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2013-06-19 02:34:35 PM

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Interesting that there's a dip in the numbers from the 40s and the 50s folks. I wonder what accounts for that?

Bunch of young people dying in WWII, resulting in more crotchety old people as a percentage?


The Religious right's first great enemy was communism. It was a natural villain for both its economic values (the religious right has always been ultra capitalist) and the prevalence of atheism in communist states. After McCarthyism imploded, the leaders of the religious right needed a more credible boogie man. The horrors of Jim Crow were not palatable on the national level, so blacks were out. Homosexuals were unorganized, presumptively corrupt, and largely anonymous. The religious right began a relentless campaign to personify the resentment of national post-war social changes into religiously sanctioned fear and hatred of homosexuals. Before the 50s homosexuality was presumed to be unacceptable, but homosexuals were not looked at as a threat.
 
2013-06-19 02:34:47 PM

Lost Thought 00: This is the lady that was primaried out of the party and had to run a write-in campaign. And won. Yet for some reason she still calls herself a Republican


I think it's the exactsame reason Lincoln Chafee called himself a Republican for ten years or so after ceasing to act like one-daddy was one and she now has his Senate seat.

/to be fair, Chafee's dad died before he got the Senate seat-Murkowski's dad was governor and appointed her to his old seat
 
2013-06-19 02:36:54 PM

vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?


Because Jesus and/or gays are icky and/or they are closeted, self-hating gays that don't want other gays to have happiness.
 
2013-06-19 02:37:53 PM

tnpir: Ricardo Klement: Good.  This is but one issue that we're wasting our time on and killing the party.  Sun Tzu said not to fight a battle you can't win, and this one was lost in Ft. Collins, CO, in 1998.

To what are you referring?


Matthew Shepard died in the hospital at Ft. Collins.
 
2013-06-19 02:46:17 PM

Lost Thought 00: This is the lady that was primaried out of the party and had to run a write-in campaign. And won. Yet for some reason she still calls herself a Republican


Alaskians have a very, very strong 'mind your own business' streak.

Even La Sarah was forced to sign a domestic partner benefits law.
 
2013-06-19 02:46:26 PM

salvador.hardin: The Religious right's first great enemy was communism. It was a natural villain for both its economic values (the religious right has always been ultra capitalist) and the prevalence of atheism in communist states. After McCarthyism imploded, the leaders of the religious right needed a more credible boogie man. The horrors of Jim Crow were not palatable on the national level, so blacks were out. Homosexuals were unorganized, presumptively corrupt, and largely anonymous. The religious right began a relentless campaign to personify the resentment of national post-war social changes into religiously sanctioned fear and hatred of homosexuals. Before the 50s homosexuality was presumed to be unacceptable, but homosexuals were not looked at as a threat.


Interesting...
 
2013-06-19 02:52:42 PM

Lost Thought 00: This is the lady that was primaried out of the party and had to run a write-in campaign. And won. Yet for some reason she still calls herself a Republican


You mean, someone whose political ideas skew in one direction but doesn't tow the party line?  When you had Zell Miller as a Democrat, you sort of get a wake up call about that.
 
2013-06-19 02:56:36 PM

coeyagi: Why any woman would be a GOPer is beyond me.

"HURR why single issue there is much to the GOP than a single issue DERR"

Really, derper?

1) Against equal pay
2) Against reproductive rights
     a) birth control
     b) abortion
3) Against universal healthcare (well, now they are)
4) Not very delicate when it comes to rape
5) Seem to think that gender roles are written into the Bible and therefore law


Republicans (for the most part) are guilty of "Ivory Tower-itis"; that is, unless it affects them directly (i.e. Rush and Oxycontin, Cheney and his daughter), the default stance is "herr 'X' is duh debil n' must be eleminated!"
 
2013-06-19 03:06:11 PM

nmrsnr: Is it sad that my first thought on seeing the headline was "which family member just came out to her?"

Glad to see that her motivation was not so self-serving.


So she needs to be on the right side of history for the right reasons.

/nice
 
2013-06-19 03:11:15 PM
Good for her. Also good for the Republican civil war.
 
2013-06-19 03:18:10 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?

We do.  Except now they insist on calling us democrats.

(no really.  I'm a registered republican...and no one believes me anymore, I'm just another libby lib libtard democrat.  My views have not changed.  At all.  The party sure has though)


...'twas better to reign in hell  (at the expense of extorting one's self to the socially authoritarian religious camp) than serve in heaven.
 
2013-06-19 03:29:23 PM

Serpentile6: Good for her. Also good for the Republican civil war.


Republican party in Alaska has been in a civil war for about a decade now

Started when Frank appointed his daughter to the Senate
 
2013-06-19 03:33:34 PM

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Satan's Bunny Slippers: vernonFL: "First, this is a personal liberty issue and has to do with the most important personal decision that any human makes. I believe that, as Americans, our freedoms come from God and not government, and include the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What could be more important to the pursuit of happiness than the right to choose your spouse without asking a Washington politician for permission? If there is one belief that unifies most Alaskans - our true north - it is less government and more freedom. We don't want the government in our pockets or our bedrooms; we certainly don't need it in our families"

Why can't more so called "conservatives" think this way?

We do.  Except now they insist on calling us democrats.

(no really.  I'm a registered republican...and no one believes me anymore, I'm just another libby lib libtard democrat.  My views have not changed.  At all.  The party sure has though)

...'twas better to reign in hell  (at the expense of extorting one's self to the socially authoritarian religious camp) than serve in heaven.


I pretty much just cower in the corner now as the shrapnel flies.  And try to keep people at work and some relatives from discovering I've voted democrat the last three elections.  And yes, I'm sorry about voting for Bush II the first time.  I was wrong.  I'm sorry.
 
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