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(SILive)   The suspect was described as being between 5ft 5in and 5ft 9in, wearing pants. If you think you spotted the suspect, DO NOT give any further descriptions to the NYPD   (silive.com) divider line 49
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2013-06-19 12:51:26 PM
You've gotta be kidding me. A lot of news organizations already do this to be politically correct, much to the chagrin of anyone with a brain.

"Well we don't wanna offend anybody......"
 
2013-06-19 01:08:08 PM
What about hats?
 
2013-06-19 01:10:20 PM
Do these people seriously not have anything else better to do?
 
2013-06-19 01:17:42 PM

blatz514: Do these people seriously not have anything else better to do?


Lefties? No. They don't.
 
2013-06-19 01:18:17 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: What about hats?


Suspect is definitely hatless.
 
2013-06-19 01:18:40 PM
Was the suspect an animal, vegetable, or mineral?
 
2013-06-19 01:19:31 PM

Walker: You've gotta be kidding me. A lot of news organizations already do this to be politically correct, much to the chagrin of anyone with a brain.

"Well we don't wanna offend anybody......"


So, I can sue you if I'm wearing an article of clothing which matches the description of the suspect?  I'm buying a police scanner, this sounds like a money-maker to me!
 
2013-06-19 01:19:50 PM
lh5.googleusercontent.com
This is Papa Bear. Put out an APB for a male suspect, driving a... car of some sort, heading in the direction of... you know, that place that sells chili. Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless.
 
2013-06-19 01:20:26 PM
myhumorspot.com
 
2013-06-19 01:21:24 PM
Who the hell in this day and age would wear a blue windbreaker.
 
2013-06-19 01:21:37 PM
Puts me in mind of an Amber Alert that gave the names and ages of the child and adult but skipped race.
 
2013-06-19 01:22:07 PM
He wears T-Shirts...sometimes.

cdn.buzznet.com
 
2013-06-19 01:22:17 PM

Solid State Vittles: MaudlinMutantMollusk: What about hats?

Suspect is definitely hatless.


And he's driving a......car...of some sort...and he headed in the direction .....

of...um.....that place that sells chili.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-19 01:22:34 PM
Sounds like an ACLU wet dream.

I cancelled my local newspaper subscription because of this crap. There was some perv driving around trying to lure middle school girls. Paper refused give complexion description, just "male 20-40 driving blue sedan".
 
2013-06-19 01:23:03 PM

stevetherobot: [lh5.googleusercontent.com image 464x344]
This is Papa Bear. Put out an APB for a male suspect, driving a... car of some sort, heading in the direction of... you know, that place that sells chili. Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless.


I was looking for the proper photo. You beat me to it.
/good jjorb
 
2013-06-19 01:23:43 PM
Yeah, sometimes every known distinguishing detail is important.
 
2013-06-19 01:24:08 PM
This will not result in more violence from the police.  Nope, not at all.  All hatless people will be beaten to a bloody pulp just in case they're the suspect
 
2013-06-19 01:27:13 PM
Hold on just a minute...

FTFA: If the legislation, intended to stop racial profiling, passes, police offers would face the constant threat of going to trial for doing their jobs, he said.

It's not all bad.
 
2013-06-19 01:28:51 PM
fits right into the 'everyone is guilty' mindset
 
2013-06-19 01:28:52 PM
1)
Story does not mention race of a white suspect.

You people: *crickets*

2)
Story does not mention race of a black suspect.

You people: I AM CANCELLING MY NEWSPAPER SUSCRIPTION!!1!!
 
2013-06-19 01:29:11 PM
"The bill allows police officers to use all manner of descriptive information, including skin color, height, age, in suspect descriptions. It absolutely allows it and it's a lie to say it doesn't."

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/19/post_regurgitates_lies_about_bill_a. ph p
 
2013-06-19 01:29:23 PM
New York should just take a break from making laws.  Seriously.  Just stop.
 
2013-06-19 01:30:20 PM
Hey! I know that guy!
 
2013-06-19 01:31:54 PM

wildcardjack: Puts me in mind of an Amber Alert that gave the names and ages of the child and adult but skipped race.


if they white, you always say the race.

if certain non white races, then you're totally racist profiling, you racist.
 
2013-06-19 01:32:32 PM
Law enforcement is advised to be on the lookout for this person:

img.fark.net

This individual may have changed his appearance in an effort to avoid detection.
 
2013-06-19 01:32:54 PM

jaytkay: 1)
Story does not mention race of a white suspect.

You people: *crickets*

2)
Story does not mention race of a black suspect.

You people: I AM CANCELLING MY NEWSPAPER SUSCRIPTION!!1!!


If you can't see the flaw in your post, you're a damned fool.
 
2013-06-19 01:34:01 PM
Years back (dunno if they're still like this), one of the news stations in Roanoke, Virginia, was just like this.  They would NOT give the skin color of any suspect, no matter how urgent the report was.

One time, back in 2000 or so, there was a guy who got into some big argument with his woman.  Shot her, walked out, shot at / wounded a couple neighbors, stole a random car, and drove down the street popping off random shots.  Police are looking for him, stressing how dangerous he was, he was armed, he was shooting at random people, etc etc.

News report gave:
His name
What he was wearing
That he had a shaved head
His home address
Nicknames
What high school he went to
Tattoos

EVERY damn thing but the color of his skin.
 
2013-06-19 01:34:49 PM
He was called Bobby "The Shirt" Briggs, because when he committed his crimes he always wore a shirt.

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-19 01:35:52 PM

jaytkay: 1)
Story does not mention race of a white suspect.

You people: *crickets*

2)
Story does not mention race of a black suspect.

You people: I AM CANCELLING MY NEWSPAPER SUSCRIPTION!!1!!


i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-19 01:37:51 PM

BarkingUnicorn: jaytkay: 1)
Story does not mention race of a white suspect.

You people: *crickets*

2)
Story does not mention race of a black suspect.

You people: I AM CANCELLING MY NEWSPAPER SUSCRIPTION!!1!!

If you can't see the flaw in your post, you're a damned fool.


you people.
 
2013-06-19 01:39:01 PM
OTOH the LAPD had a photo of Dorner and shot at two women.
 
2013-06-19 01:41:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: jaytkay: 1)
Story does not mention race of a white suspect.

You people: *crickets*

2)
Story does not mention race of a black suspect.

You people: I AM CANCELLING MY NEWSPAPER SUSCRIPTION!!1!!

If you can't see the flaw in your post, you're a damned fool.


Congrats, Jaykay.  You became a rare person.  You're a person that Bucking Unicorn can look at and say, "Man, that guy is either a moron or trolling."  Do you realize how rare that is?  That's even more rare then Big Foot.
 
2013-06-19 01:44:57 PM

Thunderboy: Was the suspect an animal, vegetable, or mineral?


thatsracist.jpg
 
2013-06-19 01:46:00 PM
Easy fix: run the NYPD through Fark's filter.

"Suspect is a successful and attractive African-American in a blue windbreaker."
 
2013-06-19 01:46:36 PM
P.C. Level Achievement Unlocked : Nation of panty-waists..
 
2013-06-19 01:47:53 PM
When all the replies in the article were submitted last month, clap your hands.
 
2013-06-19 01:49:05 PM
Quinn losing the white vote with every word. Go Weiner.
 
2013-06-19 01:50:59 PM
The university I work for routinely sends out crime notices, and in the description we usually get an idea of how darkly or lightly "complected" the suspect is.
 
2013-06-19 01:54:37 PM
Identifying the characteristics of a suspect in not racial profiling
 
2013-06-19 02:07:45 PM

Profedius: Identifying the characteristics of a suspect in not racial profiling


No, but the characteristics constitute a profile.  Stopping someone  solely because he fits a profile is what this bill aims to end.  It also encompasses gender, age, and other types of profiles, not just racial profiles.

The cops will have to work like this:

"Be on the lookout for a black male, approximately 20 to 25 years old, wearing... if you see a person fitting this description AND he is doing something that arouses reasonable, specific, articulable suspicion, you may stop him."

The "reasonable suspicion" part is what NYPD has been ignoring.
 
2013-06-19 02:24:52 PM
Let's face it, if the suspect is white, they'll say so.

If not white, then it gets down to "someone did something."  Which is a real help!

You have to pay attention to what they're NOT saying.

I hate this PC crap.
 
2013-06-19 02:39:21 PM

Miss Alexandra: Let's face it, if the suspect is white, they'll say so.

If not white, then it gets down to "someone did something."  Which is a real help!

You have to pay attention to what they're NOT saying.

I hate this PC crap.


Most white supremacists do.
 
2013-06-19 02:57:26 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Profedius: Identifying the characteristics of a suspect in not racial profiling

No, but the characteristics constitute a profile.  Stopping someone  solely because he fits a profile is what this bill aims to end.  It also encompasses gender, age, and other types of profiles, not just racial profiles.

The cops will have to work like this:

"Be on the lookout for a black male, approximately 20 to 25 years old, wearing... if you see a person fitting this description AND he is doing something that arouses reasonable, specific, articulable suspicion, you may stop him."

The "reasonable suspicion" part is what NYPD has been ignoring.


True, but I do not have a problem with the police questioning everyone who fits the description. The problem here is that black people feel they are being harassed by the police, but the problem is the greater number of petty crimes are committed by black people. I am pretty sure that black people are being harassed by the police, but the problem is not their race, but the actions of their race. If they want to correct the problem they need to start raising their kids right and taking some responsibility instead of trying to implement laws that make law enforcement more difficult and cost society its safety
 
2013-06-19 03:22:04 PM
Glad to see Bloomberg taking 5 minutes from banning sodas and earbuds to do something intelligent.
 
2013-06-19 04:34:43 PM

MBooda: Easy fix: run the NYPD through Fark's filter.

"Suspect is a successful and attractive African-American in a blue windbreaker."

"But Bush"

FTFE
 
2013-06-19 08:15:03 PM

Profedius: BarkingUnicorn: Profedius: Identifying the characteristics of a suspect in not racial profiling

No, but the characteristics constitute a profile.  Stopping someone  solely because he fits a profile is what this bill aims to end.  It also encompasses gender, age, and other types of profiles, not just racial profiles.

The cops will have to work like this:

"Be on the lookout for a black male, approximately 20 to 25 years old, wearing... if you see a person fitting this description AND he is doing something that arouses reasonable, specific, articulable suspicion, you may stop him."

The "reasonable suspicion" part is what NYPD has been ignoring.

True, but I do not have a problem with the police questioning everyone who fits the description. The problem here is that black people feel they are being harassed by the police, but the problem is the greater number of petty crimes are committed by black people. I am pretty sure that black people are being harassed by the police, but the problem is not their race, but the actions of their race. If they want to correct the problem they need to start raising their kids right and taking some responsibility instead of trying to implement laws that make law enforcement more difficult and cost society its safety


Hey hey hey! That's intelligence and good sense, we don't truck with that sort on here! Who do you think you are, Bill Cosby?

On an interesting side note, while poorer people commit more crime than those who are better off (though often just get caught more..), when the crimes of poor whites are compared against poor blacks, whites are the ones committing petty crimes. Poor blacks, however, commit petty crimes using violence to a much higher degree. It's the violence factor that makes alllllll the difference, and that's why I really struggle to give a shiat about racial profiling.

/Welcome to my favorites
 
2013-06-20 01:07:13 AM

Profedius: BarkingUnicorn: Profedius: Identifying the characteristics of a suspect in not racial profiling

No, but the characteristics constitute a profile.  Stopping someone  solely because he fits a profile is what this bill aims to end.  It also encompasses gender, age, and other types of profiles, not just racial profiles.

The cops will have to work like this:

"Be on the lookout for a black male, approximately 20 to 25 years old, wearing... if you see a person fitting this description AND he is doing something that arouses reasonable, specific, articulable suspicion, you may stop him."

The "reasonable suspicion" part is what NYPD has been ignoring.

True, but I do not have a problem with the police questioning everyone who fits the description. The problem here is that black people feel they are being harassed by the police, but the problem is the greater number of petty crimes are committed by black people. I am pretty sure that black people are being harassed by the police, but the problem is not their race, but the actions of their race. If they want to correct the problem they need to start raising their kids right and taking some responsibility instead of trying to implement laws that make law enforcement more difficult and cost society its safety


The problem is the farking cops breaking the farking law.
 
2013-06-20 02:09:50 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "The bill allows police officers to use all manner of descriptive information, including skin color, height, age, in suspect descriptions. It absolutely allows it and it's a lie to say it doesn't."

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/19/post_regurgitates_lies_about_bill_a. ph p


So I followed that link, which led me to the actual text of the bill.  I then read it.  I know, someone on Fark doing some research, shocking.

Anyway, basically the above quote is more or less right, in the sense that it does not prohibit the NYPD from giving a full description including race, gender, etc. etc.  What it DOES do is expand the racial profiling protections to include a bunch of other things, specifically "color, creed, age, alienage or citizenship status, gender, sexual orientation, disability, or housing status", renaming it "bias-based profiling".   The law stops the NYPD for using any of these things as the "determining factor" in stopping or detaining someone.  That's the existing law, to be clear.  Basically what this bill does is add things which are no longer okay as "determining factors".

On the one hand I think a lot of these things are good things to protect against profiling.  Right now a cop could conceivably say "be on the lookout for a group of no-good college kids" and the police would be perfectly justified in stopping any teen-to-twenty-somethings wandering past (whether they would is another story).  On the other hand, some of these protections seem a little dicey. Like if a cop says "suspect is in a wheelchair" and you see some dude frantically rolling and, most importantly, no other people in a wheelchair around, that could conceivably be profiling under this bill.  Then there's "housing status"... I mean I know what they're going after, but how in the hell is this actually ever going to come up.  No cop is ever going to check in during a foot pursuit to say "suspect was upside-down on his mortgage and got evicted last month" when they try to give a description.  I guess it'll stop them from saying "bum" and stuff, but I'm having trouble thinking of another short word which so accurately puts an image in your mind of a person dressed in filthy clothing who quite clearly has been sleeping rough.

Anyway, shocker, it's not nearly as bad as the article makes it out to be.
 
2013-06-20 06:16:22 PM

jaytkay: Miss Alexandra: Let's face it, if the suspect is white, they'll say so.

If not white, then it gets down to "someone did something."  Which is a real help!

You have to pay attention to what they're NOT saying.

I hate this PC crap.

Most white supremacists do.


Well, a lot of people you refer to as "white supremacist" recognize that Orientals have a slightly larger brain capacity.

/part Cherokee
 
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