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(CBS News)   "When did everyone born after 1980 decide that "No problem" was interchangeable with "You're welcome"? Who spread that virus? The Taliban?"   (cbsnews.com) divider line 96
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2013-06-19 09:58:10 AM
11 votes:
I thought Andy Rooney was dead.
2013-06-19 09:43:38 AM
8 votes:
 Luckily, my wife gave me a look that said, "Don't start."

So your wife is tired of hearing your shiat so you brought your pointless rant to the internet.
2013-06-19 09:20:45 AM
8 votes:
SOMEONE IS BEING POLITE IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN HOW I EXPRESS POLITENESS.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 09:35:26 AM
7 votes:
Someone should wish him "Happy Holidays" and watch him go postal.
2013-06-19 02:03:05 PM
6 votes:
When did "you're welcome" become an acceptable substitute for "with all pleasures, my lord?"
2013-06-19 09:46:47 AM
6 votes:
When did everyone born after 1980 decide that "No problem" was interchangeable with "You're welcome"? Who spread that virus? The Taliban?

Listen, today's young people: If you want to infuriate someone born before 1980, just keep telling him "No problem" when they ask you to do something that is most certainly NOT a problem.


I don't understand how these two things are related. The first is a different response to being thanked, the second is affirmation that you understand the instruction and are willing to do as asked. I find it hard to believe that an author would be so enraged by colloquial English niceties that may have drifted past their origins and are no longer meant literally. Does this person expect to be peppered with an inventory of things that exist over the head of the person that he may say "What's up?" to? Of course not, because who walks around with pepper in their pockets all the time?
2013-06-19 02:07:37 PM
5 votes:
i.i.com.com

It's a nice try, Bill Flanagan, but you've got a long way to go before you can fill my shoes. Try thinking way too much about the price of things, that always gets me in a dander.
2013-06-19 02:16:49 PM
4 votes:
Sometimes I will hold the door open for someone and when they say 'thank you' I'll respond with 'f*ck off!'.
2013-06-19 02:06:17 PM
4 votes:
Like, you know, actually, It's like actually, you know, annoying, like you know, so I'll stop doing that, because, you know, it is what it is, I know, right? So, like actually, I'll stop. No problem. Oops. My bad.
2013-06-19 02:05:55 PM
4 votes:
I blame this guy:

i301.photobucket.com
2013-06-19 02:01:40 PM
4 votes:
Shut the f*ck up and take your f*cking Cialis you old c*nts.
2013-06-19 10:51:40 AM
4 votes:
Whining about grammar on the internet. Truly we have achieved greatness in our society.
2013-06-19 02:50:58 PM
3 votes:
"Obey and worship me, retail slave, for I am a member of the baby boomer generation, and we have absorbed all wealth.  Watch as a drape my excessive girth at this table, and use only the words I grant you permission to"

//Not actually taking part in my generation's collective poverty.
2013-06-19 02:38:29 PM
3 votes:

mama2tnt: Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?


"Guys" has evolved to mean "people" in context-neutral situations. It's less formal than "ladies and gentlemen", and a little less sterile as just referring directly to a group as "people". You can't really say "guys and gals" unless you're wearing a cowboy hat.

As to your question directly, this practice is "okay" because informal language conventions are adopted by general consensus and usage. If this genuinely bothers you, I advise you to book a reasonably-priced flight to the burgeoning tourist destination of Okinawa, find a calm, peaceful spot along the famous cliffside, and hurl yourself to the rocks below.
2013-06-19 02:21:48 PM
3 votes:
img.fark.net

.. reference may be too vague for those born after 1980
2013-06-19 09:28:12 AM
3 votes:
De nada
2013-06-20 10:30:09 AM
2 votes:

mama2tnt: ikanreed: "'No problem' communicates there was a problem but 'you're welcome' in no way implies its opposite by being said"
--old idiot, so afraid of change that replacing a no-meaning conversation filling phrase with another no-meaning conversation-filling phrase is the biggest deal

When people say "no problem" they aren't aware that this old man is a problem.

Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?


The real answer is that depending on what restaurant you're going to, casual dining chain places train their servers to be folksy. After serving 1,000 tables, your server is on autopilot and has an unwritten script to interact with you. If it's any consolation, the server does not care what gender you are. You are simply a dollar sign - a means to an end.

The snarky answer is that it is indeed, not in any way okay. Indeed, it constitutes the greatest injustice since the Trail of Tears. You don't happen to be a female video game reviewer, do you?
2013-06-19 02:48:57 PM
2 votes:

sboyle1020: Haha...interestingly enough I just read an article that said males don't fully mature until they're 43, so he's got some time.


That's good to hear since I'm a 41-year-old, man-child wondering when the hell I'll finally grow up. Sweet, two more years to f*ck off.
2013-06-19 02:45:11 PM
2 votes:
Girl at drive through window: "Here's your order.  You have a nice one."
Me: "Uhhhm....Thanks.  I'm sure you do too."

(Always wanted to say it, never did)
2013-06-19 02:35:26 PM
2 votes:
csb time:

a few years back i was working the front desk at a local gym. as one of the guests left he told me to "have a nice day," to which i responded, "thanks--take it easy." the guy stops, turns to me and says something to the effect of, "THAT'S what's wrong with people today--why should I take it EASY? nothing comes easy, you have to work HARD for everything. I HATE it when people say that. You are all LAZY!"

/end csb
2013-06-19 02:34:53 PM
2 votes:

sboyle1020: Unfortunately, your kid is 23...


Boys develop slowly, okay?  Geez.  You sound just like my husband with his "don't you think he's old enough to chew his own food?".
2013-06-19 02:33:35 PM
2 votes:
img.fark.net
'It's no problemo'
2013-06-19 02:32:05 PM
2 votes:

gadian: My kid hasn't quite caught on to the fact that he's not the one who is supposed to say "You're welcome" after he says "thank you".  He says it as more of a "thank you're 'lcome". He's still more polite than many 30 somethings who don't say "thank you", "you're welcome" or even "no problem".  What, were you raised by wolves?   Social courtesy, please.


Unfortunately, your kid is 23...
2013-06-19 02:27:21 PM
2 votes:

mama2tnt: ikanreed: "'No problem' communicates there was a problem but 'you're welcome' in no way implies its opposite by being said"
--old idiot, so afraid of change that replacing a no-meaning conversation filling phrase with another no-meaning conversation-filling phrase is the biggest deal

When people say "no problem" they aren't aware that this old man is a problem.

Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?


Because not everyone is as dependent on gender validation as you.

"Acknowledge my gender, working class peon, for it is all that matters in social interactionsI am here to be called female, not receive food."

alternatively

"I AM MY VAGINA!"
2013-06-19 02:25:36 PM
2 votes:
Unlike many here, I appreciate how the response "no problem" can be offensive.

That is why I interchange it with "biatch, Please!"
2013-06-19 02:21:37 PM
2 votes:
By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, it shall be done!
2013-06-19 02:05:03 PM
2 votes:
If people don't bend down and sniff my crotch while singing yellow submarine I know they really didn't mean 'you're welcome'.

Pointless and arbitrary custom is pointless and arbitrary.
2013-06-19 02:01:50 PM
2 votes:
And when the fnck did these whippersnappers start saying, "Thank you" instead of "Gramercy"?
2013-06-19 10:50:47 AM
2 votes:

unyon: The question is whether its polite at all. I don't think 'uh huh' is a reasonable substitute for "you're welcome" either.


Just so I have this clear: You have a problem with the way a person responds to your thanks, a person who just moments ago did something for you that was worthy of your thanks. Do I have that right?
2013-06-19 10:21:32 AM
2 votes:
I say 'no problem' all the time, as well as 'there you go'.

And there is dirt younger than me, so there.
2013-06-19 09:19:02 AM
2 votes:
No problemo.

/This bugs the shiat out of me too. Get off my lawn.
2013-06-19 09:00:48 PM
1 votes:
I ''no problem''ed a pair of hitchhikers last weekend.
They were thanking me for giving them a 2-mile lift into town.
They didn't mind my 'no problem' reply at all.

/and yes, I'm absolutely sure problem"ed is a word, despite what my spelchker says.
2013-06-19 06:25:50 PM
1 votes:
I've always preferred:

1.bp.blogspot.com
2013-06-19 06:21:14 PM
1 votes:
Why would you say "No problem?" If it wasn't a problem, then I wouldn't have asked for your help. Arrogant douches.
2013-06-19 05:18:16 PM
1 votes:

OwnTheRide: Not reading the bajillion comments, but


Then why should we read yours?
2013-06-19 05:06:07 PM
1 votes:

my lip balm addiction: frepnog: i am bringing back "groovy".

Peachy keen!


You're both hoopy froods.
2013-06-19 04:12:40 PM
1 votes:
serial_crusher:  What about "it's all good"?  Really?  All of it?  Every bit of it is good?

My grandson thought he was graduating HS, he failed out.
Me: "WTF son?"
Him: "It's all good"
Me: The fark it is, you hated high school, now you have to go to summer school!  What is up with that?
Him: "It's all good"

/yes he's a stoner
2013-06-19 03:57:40 PM
1 votes:

Roja Herring: eas81: Subs and the Author should never work in the I/T field: "np" "no problem" "no worries" "anytime" are all common terms. This "Your Welcome" you speak of what is that?

/Do the needful

and yw, you're welcome, you are welcome are used in order of how much your request angered me.


Yes, forgot about that, and i find it funny that the offshore counterparts don't seem to understand the anger/sarcasm when we use those.
2013-06-19 03:50:19 PM
1 votes:
Ain't no skin off my azz...
2013-06-19 03:42:51 PM
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Well, it should, because it's really supposed to be no problema. Also, do you get upset when someone says "de nada" to you?


This. In Spanish, problems are always women.

/What? They are. Don't give me that look.
2013-06-19 03:18:18 PM
1 votes:
I find that "ain't no thing but a chicken wing" works well in most situations.
2013-06-19 03:14:35 PM
1 votes:

unyon: Aarontology: SOMEONE IS BEING POLITE IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN HOW I EXPRESS POLITENESS.

The question is whether its polite at all. I don't think 'uh huh' is a reasonable substitute for "you're welcome" either.

/Canadian
//we're funny like that


It's not,the question, actually. The question is why some people cannot accept that language and expressions change, and what's the bees knees now may just be a bunch of hokum later on.
2013-06-19 03:10:20 PM
1 votes:
Don't mention it, subby.

/all good
2013-06-19 03:06:48 PM
1 votes:
Meh, it all depends on the situation. In a casual environment "no problem" or "no worries" is usually ok. In a business environment or more formal situation, speak correctly. If I'm at some dive bar drinking $3.50 drafts and I get a "no problem" I haven't got an issue. If I'm at the bank and I get a flippant "no problem" I start to wonder what else they're being flippant about and are they screwing up my money.
2013-06-19 03:04:29 PM
1 votes:

Bell's Boy: I prefer "No worries" to either. As far as "No problem" goes, I think it goes back to Ah-nold in Terminator 2.


FTA:Saturday night, I took my wife to a good restaurant. The waitress asked if we wanted sparkling water, still water, or tap water. I said, "Tap water, please." She said, "No problem."

"No problem" dates back to 1963, and (as a response to being thanked)  is essentially the same construction as "It was nothing" or "Think nothing of it" (which dates back to the 1940s).  So much for his "born after 1980" nonsense.  It's a cooperative politeness strategy to help the person thanking you by retroactively minimizing the imposition of the request.

So in the example he gave, the waitress saying "no problem" was a negative politeness strategy to help him minimize imposition (or to reassure him that he had done so).

In short, the guy's wrong, he's lazy (because he could have Googled all this for himself in five minutes), and he wrote his diatribe because feels smugly superior to people about a topic he actually knows nothing.  Your typical Grammar Nazi, in other words.

tl;dr What's his Fark handle?
2013-06-19 03:02:49 PM
1 votes:

frepnog: i am bringing back "groovy".


Peachy keen!
2013-06-19 03:02:22 PM
1 votes:

eas81: Subs and the Author should never work in the I/T field: "np" "no problem" "no worries" "anytime" are all common terms. This "Your Welcome" you speak of what is that?

/Do the needful


and yw, you're welcome, you are welcome are used in order of how much your request angered me.
2013-06-19 03:01:18 PM
1 votes:
I prefer "Uh huh."

Thanks!
Uh huh.
2013-06-19 02:57:38 PM
1 votes:
CBS: the network for old people.
2013-06-19 02:54:12 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2013-06-19 02:44:42 PM
1 votes:
"Oh, by the way.....

img.photobucket.com"
2013-06-19 02:43:49 PM
1 votes:

FTGodWin: NkThrasher: Everyone has their stupid grammar peeves.  ...

Mine is people who get all bent out of shape believing that words have distinct meanings.

I'm like, duuuuuuude, they're ALL MADE UP. GET OVER IT!

I remember noting back in 5th grade English, that there is nothing coherent in the rules about grammar or word usage. Every freakin' day was merely learning yet another exception to some "rule."


My fourth grade teacher would go off when people said "ain't". She would say, "That word is a contraction. Are you trying to say 'ai not'?"

It didn't occur to me at the time that the word "won't", by her logic, would mean "wo not". If I ever invent a time machine, my first priority will be to go back and deliver a nice zinger. Then may I'll go back and kill Hitler or something.
2013-06-19 02:43:25 PM
1 votes:
I translated this article as: Get off my lawn!!!!
2013-06-19 02:42:38 PM
1 votes:
"What do you mean?" he said. "Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on?"
2013-06-19 02:41:08 PM
1 votes:

Cythraul: I usually respond with 'yeah, whatever.'


This is my United States of Whatever
2013-06-19 02:40:38 PM
1 votes:

gabethegoat: csb time:

a few years back i was working the front desk at a local gym. as one of the guests left he told me to "have a nice day," to which i responded, "thanks--take it easy." the guy stops, turns to me and says something to the effect of, "THAT'S what's wrong with people today--why should I take it EASY? nothing comes easy, you have to work HARD for everything. I HATE it when people say that. You are all LAZY!"

/end csb


He had to shower in 26 minutes...
2013-06-19 02:39:17 PM
1 votes:

The Martian Manhandler: What I say instead:

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x273]


As you wish you, too *gazes longingly at internet stranger for sake of joke*
2013-06-19 02:36:50 PM
1 votes:

FTGodWin: BarkingUnicorn: "You're welcome" implies that you're welcome to impose upon me again.

"No problem" implies "this time, but don't make a habit of it."

See what I mean? Opinion passed off as fact without the least bit of shame.


There are no facts about this discussion.  It's all opinion.

I just grunt and glare at people  when they thank me.
2013-06-19 02:35:54 PM
1 votes:

Heron: Implicit in "no problem" is the chance they may find your demands to be a problem and not do them, and I guess this guy is one of those petty tyrants who finds the idea that those working for him might be making their own decisions independent of his will threatening.


I think you've hit the nail on the head. "No problem" doesn't set the right tone of obeisance to your betters.

/   Born way before 1980
//  Have used "no problem" as far back as I can remember
/// Have no problem with others using it, either
2013-06-19 02:34:27 PM
1 votes:

ikanreed: Yogimus: In other news, regional dialects vary by region...

That doesn't stop people from complaining about "doing the needful".  I mean I get the complaints when it's used to inject ambiguity and reflect laziness on the part of the asker like "please advise" does, but it's still a retarded thing people feel excessively strongly about.


I just take "do the needful" as request to go drop one in the pot.  Gives me an excuse to leave my desk for 1/2 an hour.
2013-06-19 02:32:35 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2013-06-19 02:30:17 PM
1 votes:
What I say instead:

25.media.tumblr.com
2013-06-19 02:29:23 PM
1 votes:
No worries.

What are you fakring Austrian?  Throw another shrimp on the barbie!  No Worries, mate.
2013-06-19 02:24:10 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: If you want to get good tips or just generally not infuriate older people

That can be simplified:  if you want to get good tips, do not wait on older people.



THIS.

"O, here is a nice shiny new quarter."
Thanks.  Your drink cost $3 and your meal was $15, thanks for the 1.3% tip gramps.  You keep it, you might have to make a call using a 'phone booth' whatever the hell that is...
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 02:23:40 PM
1 votes:
when he goes to Pittsburgh and everyone says "Have a good one" he must go ballistic.
2013-06-19 02:23:17 PM
1 votes:

ko_kyi: I go with "My pleasure."



If I ever buy a boat, that's what I'm going to name it.

/Or maybe Frank Sobotka's Revenge.
2013-06-19 02:22:55 PM
1 votes:
After 1980?  I was born in '72 and this has been a common phrase since my childhood.  As far as the phrase goes, I have no problem with it.
2013-06-19 02:21:39 PM
1 votes:
I was born before 1980, but that's no problem.
2013-06-19 02:20:56 PM
1 votes:
When playing Baldur's Gate, I chose the male voice set who occasionally complied with commands by stating "Not a problem"; I developed the habit of using the same phrase myself. Perhaps I was unaware of the inherent rudeness of the phrase due to having it applied to a Paladin.
2013-06-19 02:20:47 PM
1 votes:
jpegy.com
2013-06-19 02:19:17 PM
1 votes:

ikanreed: "'No problem' communicates there was a problem but 'you're welcome' in no way implies its opposite by being said"
--old idiot, so afraid of change that replacing a no-meaning conversation filling phrase with another no-meaning conversation-filling phrase is the biggest deal

When people say "no problem" they aren't aware that this old man is a problem.


Hate it when servers call everyone at my table "You guys" when we're all female. Why is this okay?
2013-06-19 02:19:10 PM
1 votes:
i am bringing back "groovy".

/ewj
2013-06-19 02:19:03 PM
1 votes:

Gecko Gingrich: I thought Andy Rooney was dead.


Having read the piece, I know he is.
2013-06-19 02:15:25 PM
1 votes:
When someone thanks me for a little nicety I perform to make their day better, opening a door for instance, I rightfully acknowledge that they are acknowledging me.
I invoice them at $150/hr, quarter unit minimum.
2013-06-19 02:15:23 PM
1 votes:

jayhawk88: [i.i.com.com image 300x225]

It's a nice try, Bill Flanagan, but you've got a long way to go before you can fill my shoes. Try thinking way too much about the price of things, that always gets me in a dander.


Ya know, if he'd been female, there's NO way "60 Minutes" would've let him appear on camera without some seriously deep grooming of those farking eyebrows. Ugh.

/If someone's too busy looking at your accoutrements for whatever reason, maybe you need better friends.
2013-06-19 02:14:43 PM
1 votes:
If you want to get good tips or just generally not infuriate older people

That can be simplified:  if you want to get good tips, do not wait on older people.
2013-06-19 02:14:07 PM
1 votes:

show me: No problemo.

/This bugs the shiat out of me too. Get off my lawn.


Well, it should, because it's really supposed to be no problema. Also, do you get upset when someone says "de nada" to you?
2013-06-19 02:13:46 PM
1 votes:

James!: Luckily, my wife gave me a look that said, "Don't start."

So your wife is tired of hearing your shiat so you brought your pointless rant to the internet.


Thank god he took his rejection by an audience to mean he needed to spread his obnoxious rant to more people. Lord knows the internet is sorely lacking in idiots riled up about nonsense.
2013-06-19 02:10:27 PM
1 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: I have a tendency to reply to "How's it goin'?" with "It's goin'" and to "How you doin'?" with "I'm doin'".


So do I. And then I invariably get "Just 'going'? Not going well?" or some similar idiocy. And then I invariably get stabby: I'm busy, and you don't actually care, so STFU already...
2013-06-19 02:09:36 PM
1 votes:
Could we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get rid of "Oh, you're fine" as the only answer to "Excuse me"?

I'm about to go off on the next person who's in my farking way and, when I ask to pass them with an "Excuse me" answers as if it were my fault in the first place.

/"I'm 'fine'? Well, isn't that nice of you, dear, but I'm afraid you're not my type, so take that elsewhere."
2013-06-19 02:09:22 PM
1 votes:
And what's with the rap music these kids listen to nowadays? Give me some Glenn Miller any day, now THAT'S music!
2013-06-19 02:09:11 PM
1 votes:
cdn.taylorbrooks.org
2013-06-19 02:08:45 PM
1 votes:
I love how the guy's wife says 'don't start', almost as if she already knows he's kind of an arsehole and puts up with it.
/thanks for putting up with my shiat honey
//no worries
2013-06-19 02:07:21 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Like, you know, actually, It's like actually, you know, annoying, like you know, so I'll stop doing that, because, you know, it is what it is, I know, right? So, like actually, I'll stop. No problem. Oops. My bad.


It's been real.
2013-06-19 02:07:20 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: I teach my kids to say "you're welcome."


Same, but it makes as much sense as "no problem", grammatically.

It begs the question: welcome to what? Your house? Your wealth? Your kids?
2013-06-19 02:07:17 PM
1 votes:
TFAuthor is 197 years old, apparently.

/You're too farking old! Get younger!!
2013-06-19 02:06:57 PM
1 votes:
For the record, I was born in 1974 and have been saying "No problem" instead of "You're Welcome" for the last 20 years or so.

So, the author needs to get over himself.
2013-06-19 02:05:20 PM
1 votes:
 3.bp.blogspot.com

"Languages often evolve over time."
2013-06-19 02:04:50 PM
1 votes:
this doesn't bother me, but I said "no problem" so many times that I have gone back to "you're welcome" just to mix it up.
2013-06-19 02:02:19 PM
1 votes:
No problem and "you're welcome" are no

fark it not wasting my time
2013-06-19 12:42:30 PM
1 votes:
wow, people get this upset about this stuff? What about 'bro, no worries, and the ubiquitous z'up?

first world problems for sure.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 10:31:02 AM
1 votes:
Gecko Gingrich:

/How about if I say, "Bitte"?

I usually say "Bite me".  That's like German for you're welcome, right?
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-06-19 10:17:42 AM
1 votes:
Those young whipper snappers need to start talking like we did back in the day and then get off of my lawn!
2013-06-19 10:00:24 AM
1 votes:
'My bad'
2013-06-19 09:33:58 AM
1 votes:

Secret Agent X23: I'm a pre-1980 person, but "no problem" doesn't, and has never, bothered me in the slightest.

I will say, however, that when I first started hearing "You're good," it rubbed me the wrong way: "Oh, I'm sorry. I'll get out of your way." "No, you're good." Grrr. But I've long ago gotten over it. Whatever.


What about "it's all good"?  Really?  All of it?  Every bit of it is good?
2013-06-19 09:25:53 AM
1 votes:
"screw you, cloud!"
 
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